Over-reaction

[DaveTaylor]

Ok, before I start, I agree it's wrong and shouldn't happen and its upsetting on what happens in the UK at the moment but at the moment I am getting quite annoyed with the over reactions of the UK now, Right this is where I will get flamed but it has to be said. Israel gets hit daily, it is 24/7 at war yes, at war, there is 2 bomb scares every day at tel aviv airport it never gets closed you don't see israel in a frantic about it, it's daily life, seems to be whats happening here now. It's common now, get use to it, huge attack happens, then yes i understand, if its minor like so then no, it's life, get on with it. The UK isn't unsafe yet, i repeat yet.

EDIT: Reading the other thread the UK is fine, go watch some israeli news, http://www.jerusalemonline.com/ watch what thats like

[xxMATTGxx]

I agree with some parts but Israel is full of them type of people though. No I'm not trying to be raceists but its true. They think they having a laugh attacking us. Lets send nuclear bombs and blow them up if you know what I mean. Flame me on this and your just sad, It's my point of view :)

[DaveTaylor]

I agree with some parts but Israel is full of them type of people though. No I'm not trying to be raceists but its true. They think they having a laugh attacking us. Lets send nuclear bombs and blow them up if you know what I mean. Flame me on this and your just sad, It's my point of view :)
(Bold) Your not allowed your view on this forum :rolleyes:

[xxMATTGxx]

(Bold) Your not allowed your view on this forum :rolleyes:

Oh my, That sucks then.

[LeftForDead]

Ye i agree with that BUT it doesnt happen everyday in the UK its a rare thing! i agree with you though

[:Jamie]

(Bold) Your not allowed your view on this forum :rolleyes:

Saying that I dont even think your taking this thread serious. :rolleyes:

[DaveTaylor]

Erm i am from israel so i think i would be?

[alexxxxx]

I agree with some parts but Israel is full of them type of people though. No I'm not trying to be raceists but its true. They think they having a laugh attacking us. Lets send nuclear bombs and blow them up if you know what I mean. Flame me on this and your just sad, It's my point of view :)


you sound really stupid and ignorant. It's people like you that terrorists want to kill. LETS NUKE EM LOLOL. oh grow up.

Israel isn't really a problem, the palestinians just hate israel (with a good reason) and attack israel.

Well, when I mean good reason, their land got taken, which is unlucky, but the jews did need a 'homeland' but it's a mess how they've done it.

[DaveTaylor]

Alex they have no good reason, they have the gaza strip which is what they want.

[LeftForDead]

Alex they have no good reason, they have the gaza strip which is what they want.
Ye they have it but they dont own it, they dont have written proof or anything like that

[DaveTaylor]

the contract was written years ago, but israel asked for a treaty, they didn't want it so they left it.

[xxMATTGxx]

;3666668']you sound really stupid and ignorant. It's people like you that terrorists want to kill. LETS NUKE EM LOLOL. oh grow up.

Israel isn't really a problem, the palestinians just hate israel (with a good reason) and attack israel.

Well, when I mean good reason, their land got taken, which is unlucky, but the jews did need a 'homeland' but it's a mess how they've done it.

Sorry but Like i said "Its my point of view" Dave is right you can't have it with you lot. Before you say "Grow up" they attack us, so we go and get revenge that's why we also went to war remember?. Oh well there is one way to stop this happening but I'm not even going to say it on this forum.

[alexxxxx]

i edited my last post. read it.

it's a mess how they've sorted it out and israel, in some cases are unreasonbly controlling of some parts of gaza. I watched some tv programme, and the palestinians weren't allowed water from a pump, which was in their land, because Israel wouldn't let them.

[DaveTaylor]

I rememeber the program, it was a declared israeli source so they didn't allow access as they have there own, in there own "country"

[LeftForDead]

the contract was written years ago, but israel asked for a treaty, they didn't want it so they left it.
So what do they want?

[DaveTaylor]

Israel want peace, did it ever happen, no? If i remember correctly it was written before the attack on eilat, down at the restraunt, killed 12-20 people

[alexxxxx]

I rememeber the program, it was a declared israeli source so they didn't allow access as they have there own, in there own "country"

I also remember how they built the infamous wall, but it didn't follow the boundary, and took land from the palestinians. I thought that was unfair.

I do however believe that the wall is a good method of protection and I agree that Israel should exist.

[DaveTaylor]

Palastein agree'd to the boundarys in the contract/ peace treatry then tried changing it, by force hense the war still

[LeftForDead]

Palastein agree'd to the boundarys in the contract/ peace treatry then tried changing it, by force hense the war still
But i thought you said they had the strip?
and which one is it that put up the wall?

we only lightly touched on this in history:\

[alexxxxx]

no, the wall doesn't follow the boundaries set in the original contract.

[DaveTaylor]

They have the strip in there possesion (sp?) israel are whiling, they have there people living there etc, they agree'd to the bounaries so israel decided to build this wall which alex mentioned yes, then palaestain wanted to change it and decided instead of asking etc, they bombed, hence now all the rockets daily.

[Yoshimitsui]

The constant TV alerts and interupted programmes that display live news of it all is bad in my opinion. Yes let people know, but they don't need to know every second throughout the day. It's just giving the people who did it publicity power and makes things worse.

[LeftForDead]

They have the strip in there possesion (sp?) israel are whiling, they have there people living there etc, they agree'd to the bounaries so israel decided to build this wall which alex mentioned yes, then palaestain wanted to change it and decided instead of asking etc, they bombed, hence now all the rockets daily.
But when Israel put up the wall they didnt give one where it was, there was one house which had lost its back garden and when they looked out there was a wall in there way. So Israel isnt all that good

[velocity]

Simply because its rare to happen in the UK, over there they're used to conflicts in their own streets?

[DaveTaylor]

But when Israel put up the wall they didnt give one where it was, there was one house which had lost its back garden and when they looked out there was a wall in there way. So Israel isnt all that good
they agree'd to the wall ¬_¬

[LeftForDead]

they agree'd to the wall ¬_¬
so how come thats happend?
and inside it can take people hours to move a 1 mile cos of all the check points? just because there from a diffrent country?

[DaveTaylor]

palastein don't care about people at all, haven't you realised, they want the land :| they don't care if there people are hurt aswell

[LeftForDead]

palastein don't care about people at all, haven't you realised, they want the land :| they don't care if there people are hurt aswell
Oh so the citerzans should be punnished when they live in a diffrent country?

[DaveTaylor]

¬_¬ the palaestains agree'd to the wall, they wanted it changed and then they bomb israel to get the change, palastein let the wall be made, so it was where it was, they didn't warn anyone at all about the wall they let it be built as it was in there land at the time. Israel did what they requested, is it hard to understand that ¬_¬

[LeftForDead]

¬_¬ the palaestains agree'd to the wall, they wanted it changed and then they bomb israel to get the change, palastein let the wall be made, so it was where it was, they didn't warn anyone at all about the wall they let it be built as it was in there land at the time. Israel did what they requested, is it hard to understand that ¬_¬
in my last post where did i mention the wall?:s

[DaveTaylor]

the whole concept of your post was about the wall :|

[LeftForDead]

the whole concept of your post was about the wall :|
I was on about the check points

[littlestar.19]

its never an over reaction when its ppls lives at stake,even more so when its our familys or friends lives, but i do agree with the rest, x

[Nixt]

Well I partially agree, yes. I fully appreciate that you may be a bit annoyed at the reaction of the British people to such an attack which really was minuscule in comparison to the attacks that happen all the time in Israel but after this point is where I disagree. As people have already said, and as you said yourself, attacks in Israel are part of life - they are normal, almost accepted now because people know that they are going to happen and that is that. Some people will have grown up with it happening they know nothing different.
In Britain however it's a very different story, attacks like these are few and far between and when they do happen people become very scared because they are not used to it like the Israeli people are. I notice also that you mentioned that an airport in Israel gets hit daily and they do not close. The difference is that Britain do not want to allow another attack to take place, so they do their best to make sure that doesn't happen. Do you not think that the exact same thing would happen in Israel if it was that easy for them and if they hadn't simply become used to such things happening anyway?

[-:Undertaker:-]

We're not Israel, so British people won't be as interested in israeli affairs as much as British Affairs.

Therefore on BBC news, flooding in the North East will be far more important rather than Flooding in Gaza.

[DiscoPat]

Cultural differences, Israel wants the war, we dont.

[hadouken!]

yeah they get bombed if they dont mow their grass right, but as soon as a firecracker goes off here, its a global phenominom

[Virgin Mary]

They want a war because their religion says they can fight back against 'enemies'. Though it doesn't say anywhere "fly planes into buildings" or "blow up cars outside clubs" ;l

[Cypher-]

What a daft thread, Israel has been in a state of decline for many years whereas the UK has built a kingdom of solitude and togetherness, What gives those people the right to come into our country and then exploit our resources only to bomb it in the name of a God who doesnt exist.

Im not racist and I hate racism but Im sick of what this country is being turned into, you hear it every day from from people that are from another country, refusing to take off veils and preaching hate through their mosques! What a load of nonsense, the fact is if you come to our country then abide by our rules, these extremist terrorists that bomb our country are people that will never amount to anything in life, I hope they all suffer like the bomber that got burnt in glasgow the other day, hope hes in agony now.

[Ashley 12344]

What a daft thread, Israel has been in a state of decline for many years whereas the UK has built a kingdom of solitude and togetherness, What gives those people the right to come into our country and then exploit our resources only to bomb it in the name of a God who doesnt exist.

Im not racist and I hate racism but Im sick of what this country is being turned into, you hear it every day from from people that are from another country, refusing to take off veils and preaching hate through their mosques! What a load of nonsense, the fact is if you come to our country then abide by our rules, these extremist terrorists that bomb our country are people that will never amount to anything in life, I hope they all suffer like the bomber that got burnt in glasgow the other day, hope hes in agony now.

Precisly. If a British citizen went to a Muslim country for example, they'd get treated FAR worse.

People should be informed about a terrorist plot. The people were attempting to kill many citizens.. Whether it failed or not, people like to know and should be informed.

We can afford to close an airport in the name of safety. Many countries can't afford to close an airport, or may not be that bothered about the safety of the countries inhabitants.

[stratosphere]

What a load of nonsense, the fact is if you come to our country then abide by our rules, these extremist terrorists that bomb our country are people that will never amount to anything in life, I hope they all suffer like the bomber that got burnt in glasgow the other day, hope hes in agony now.

Well said!

[:Jamie]

They should make them bombers die in pain - Bet there getting all the treatment now.

[[DC]eption]

I dont think their is a problem with the UK trying to be safe, i cant comment on the Israel situation though as i have never experienced it.

But i have no complaintes with the reaction of the UK

[Dan2nd]

They should make them bombers die in pain - Bet there getting all the treatment now.

We're a civilised country so that'd never happen :(

[ClubTime]

(Bold) Your not allowed your view on this forum :rolleyes:

lol, if it wont allowed, they be no reason for online discussion forums.

[DiscoPat]

Precisly. If a British citizen went to a Muslim country for example, they'd get treated FAR worse.

People should be informed about a terrorist plot. The people were attempting to kill many citizens.. Whether it failed or not, people like to know and should be informed.

We can afford to close an airport in the name of safety. Many countries can't afford to close an airport, or may not be that bothered about the safety of the countries inhabitants.

Are you telling me that British Citizens (inc myself) get treated bad in Muslim countrys? No mate, thats not true.. Maybe about 2 coutries out of these are abit ****** of..http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majority_Muslim_countries

[:Jamie]

We're a civilised country so that'd never happen :(

That was apparently a racist comment(The thing I wrote above) - According to Dave.

Care to explain to me whats so racist about the comment dave? Don't go shouting out the racist word at everything said against things like that. (Btw you suck at trying to make your rep sound fair, how about linking it to the right post?)

[Ashley 12344]

Are you telling me that British Citizens (inc myself) get treated bad in Muslim countrys? No mate, thats not true.. Maybe about 2 coutries out of these are abit ****** of..http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majority_Muslim_countries

I can't see how it would be a holiday. I'd put money on the fact that if you went around the Middle Eastern countries, you'd find somewhere that treats you far worse than how people are treated in the UK.

I never actually said bad. I said worse.