The Size ? :( [WARNING!]

[ityler]

K, so, i'm really embarrased, because my girlfriend and i have gotten to a point in our relationship where we want to take it further, and we are both gonna lose our " flower " but, lets just call it my " tool " is only 4 inches and i dont want her to laugh at it and tell everyone, what shall i do

-TylerHarding
__________________________________________________ ______________
Newfoundland, Canada!

[Jamesy]

Hang a big weight off it for 2 months. Old victorian technology. *its true its called the tugger*

[English]

4 inches when erect? One word - oral.

[Adam!]

Ermmm dude, your either like 12 or you've got a very err small thing.

[English]

Ermmm dude, your either like 12 or you've got a very err small thing.
He's established he's got a small penis...
Atleast he is mature enough to say penis instead of 'thing'.

[Jamesy]

actually he said his "tool"

[Adam!]

He's established he's got a small penis...
Atleast he is mature enough to say penis instead of 'thing'.
He didn't say that..

He said "tool".

Oh well, life goes on.. If she loves you, she proberbly wont care - If she tells everyone, shes obv not the right person to be with.

But on a serious note, how old are you?

[boyslikegirls]

uh just don't have sex if your so worried about it.

[clarissa !!]

uh just don't have sex if your so worried about it.
what, never? lol

[Adam!]

what, never? lol
pmsl - stoooopid!

[boyslikegirls]

what, never? lol
ABSTIDENCE ALL THE WAY.

no just till he finds someone he knows that won't care about size.
or else it could be like humiliation nonstop :D

[Agnostic Bear]

ABSTIDENCE ALL THE WAY.

no just till he finds someone he knows that won't care about size.
or else it could be like humiliation nonstop :D


Abstinence -.-

[Virgin Mary]

That's why you have sex with the lights off

[Jordie]

If she loves you it wont bother her:)

[[DC]eption]

4" is enough to pleasure anyways supposdly. But yeah how old are yah?

[mrwoooooooo]

You don't need to worry about her telling everyone, because you jsut posted it on the internets :rolleyes:

[[DC]eption]

You don't need to worry about her telling everyone, because you jsut posted it on the internets :rolleyes:

lmao :P

[stratosphere]

I'm the same, my friend who's the same age as me has like a 1million inch penis :(

[luke-p]

Its not the size of the vessel, its the motion in the ocean... Aha, anyway... I don't think she would be that bothered aslong as she has sex with you...
Erm, anyawy if its her first time Its going to hurt... And some people might not want to have sex for a while after there first time... but some are not that bothered and will want it again asap...

[Bef]

Turn the lights off :D

[Uwe]

he is 13 according to his other thread posted a few days back...

[Bef]

Oh, then your still growing. 4 inches isnt tiny anyway, i know grown men with smaller. Ul grow so dont worry.

[Ostinato]

If your 13 I'd say 4 inches is fine as you still have a good few years left yet to grow - so don't worry about it.

I think you need to fully decide whether or not you are actually ready for this - both physically and mentally. You are still young so don't just rush into something because you both "want to lose your flower".

I'm curious however, as your worried your girlfriend will laugh or something - yet you are considering having sexual intercourse. Surely, she would have seen it before if you are now considering going the full way? I'd like to presume that your not just diving straight into sex and other sexual activities, as I find building it up and gradually getting to know the other person, their body and what they like is the key to having a healthy and happy sex life.

I just think if you and your girlfriend really are serious then whats the big rush to have sex? Surely you have all the rest of your life to do that if your going to be together? I'm not saying don't havce sex until your 30, but I'm just saying I think you should perhaps hold off until you feel your ready - even in a physical sense.

I guarantee you, if you go rushing into sex and your not even confident with your own body and are self-concious, there is no way you will even be able to perform to a decent standard. You will be too busy worrying about what she thinks, and the whole issue will be made even worse.

[unit]

If she's never had sex before we wont know how big a penis is supposed to be. If she laughs, then end your relationship and say "I'd like to see you laughing in a few years time!!!" that'll get her!

[jordang16]

dude dont worry 4 inches isnt that small a penis has to be atleast 2 and a half inches to pleasure a women and having sex at 13 probably isnt right :]

[beth]

i read somewhere that a woman can get more pleasure from 3.5 inches than they can with a big penis.

but yeah lol, @ 13 it's probably still growing. but i don't know, since i don't have one, trust.

[:Jakey]

overdose on viagra

[Nightrose]

overdose on viagra

Lol and you would know all about that?

well if your 13, your probs still growing, i just dont understand if your gonna head into sex, that she hasnt all ready seen it =/ you also didnt say if its 4inches when erected, But anyway WAIT if your not comfortable and till your legal which is like 14 or something =/ its lower than the uk in certain province's in Canada.

Its not te lenght that matters, its the way you use it.

Lol but then again im a girl so i wouldnt know about penis sizes and how long they grow for etc

[velvet]

Its not the size of the vessel, its the motion in the ocean... Aha, anyway... I don't think she would be that bothered aslong as she has sex with you...
Erm, anyawy if its her first time Its going to hurt... And some people might not want to have sex for a while after there first time... but some are not that bothered and will want it again asap...

you can't just say that it's going to hurt s;
my first time didn't hurt at all, it varys from person to person, and generally if you're relaxed then it won't hurt.

[ViRgIn]

you can't just say that it's going to hurt s;
my first time didn't hurt at all, it varys from person to person, and generally if you're relaxed then it won't hurt.
u must of had a bucket already then babe

[GommeInc]

One word: So?

If she loves you for the size of your penis, she really needs to get a life. Love is emotional and mental, not physical "/

[GrAcE ShOrT]

One word: So?

If she loves you for the size of your penis, she really needs to get a life. Love is emotional and mental, not physical "/

oh, and teenager's minds really work like that nowadays, don't they?!
i'm sure hardly any form of majority of teenagers are mature enough to even think that. they're just interested in the sex, not the mental love. apart from some stupid little crush. i'm pretty sure most people would agree with me if i said schoolgirls are *******.

[[DC]eption]

One word: So?

If she loves you for the size of your penis, she really needs to get a life. Love is emotional and mental, not physical "/

By that theory you would go for some one covered in spots, greasy hair and smells really bad as long as they had a nice personality?

[Dentafrice,]

Size varys, if your 13 and have a 4 inch penis or 13 and have a 9inch one.

When I was 13 mine was 8 inches.

It will grow, don't worry.

[boyslikegirls]

One word: So?

If she loves you for the size of your penis, she really needs to get a life. Love is emotional and mental, not physical "/
at age thirteen i don't think either are looking for love
just sex

[Axel]

4 " normally or full size?

[PaulMacC]

Size varys, if your 13 and have a 4 inch penis or 13 and have a 9inch one.

When I was 13 mine was 8 inches.

It will grow, don't worry.


The average size of a grown man's penis is 7''

Your saying you had it at 13.

[Stephen]

Tbh Tyler you shouldn't be thinking about having sex looking at your other thread (not knowing what was coming out of your winky when you 'did something with the handle of your tool'). :p

[Dentafrice,]

The average size of a grown man's penis is 7''

Your saying you had it at 13.
some people vary, do I need to prove it?

[PaulMacC]

Pls post a pic *gets popcorn*

Na I believe you.

[Axel]

When you say average, is that full size or just normally?

[Stephen]

Pls post a pic *gets popcorn*

Na I believe you.

Lmao yeah.. Post a video of what happens!! Lol :P

Anyway, Tyler I never knew you had a girlfriend? I thought we were together :( But oh well I don't like 4 inchers ;) (I'm joking if anyone thinks i'm gay tyvm).

[Dentafrice,]

Pls post a pic *gets popcorn*

Na I believe you.
k i will.

[[DC]eption]

The average size of a grown man's penis is 7''



6" tbh

[Concentric2]

6" tbh
That's what i thought it was too

[Callum.]

It's probably 6" unmeasured

But like 5"-5.5" measured.

[GommeInc]

oh, and teenager's minds really work like that nowadays, don't they?!
i'm sure hardly any form of majority of teenagers are mature enough to even think that. they're just interested in the sex, not the mental love. apart from some stupid little crush. i'm pretty sure most people would agree with me if i said schoolgirls are *******.
Meh good point, young teenagers only like the sex because of the new experience. All will change when they realise they're being used for the sex or when one member of the couple moves on to find better sex. It will all change when they're older, besides, spots and being greasy doesn't last long. By the time you're 21 that part of puberty is all dead and gone, considering the sexual peak for a man is 18, then you get the long drift downwards to about 55, where viagra is needed :P

Also, Ikea, I did not mention anything in that theory to make that outcome "/ I would of at least said something about being 'greasy' or being sexy or un-greasy, but I didn't. So don't make comnclusions that don't come from a source by making them up from thin air.

Has the average size changed to 7" now then?

[velvet]

u must of had a bucket already then babe

not really s;
it only hurts because it breaks the hymen, which in some people is already broken.

[Virgin Mary]

It's like 5.5" for East Asians, 6" for whites and 6.75" for blacks.

[Jordy]

Tbh Tyler you shouldn't be thinking about having sex looking at your other thread (not knowing what was coming out of your winky when you 'did something with the handle of your tool'). :p

Thanks for mentioning that... I remember now.
The other day you said you masterbaited and you didn't know what the 'sticky thing' was that was coming out and your 13. You should know that purely from Sex Education. As stated in that thread, if you don't even know what semen is, it's back to the drawing board.

You also mentioned your semen was clear, your not quite matured yet either mate (Matured as in puberty, not mentally (But maybe that as well!)).

Proof: http://habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=373936

[RunescapeWorker]

Absolutely ironic..

NONE of you obviously have had sex yet, because you would know, size doesn't really matter, girls enjoy it if well you enjoy it too, 4 inches shouldn't be so bad, style is important if you wanna get '****o-techinical'.

Don't worry, enjoy the time, sex is something you should enjoy, not be worried about.

Also I'd like to clear up some crap, the average penis size NOTICE AVERAGE NOT THE SIZE YOU HAVE TO HAVE TO HAVE GOOD SEX. is about 5 inches, because not everyone on the world has a 12" penis, if you think i'm wrong, go work out what average means.

Ok, i'll edit it because i'm sure some of you have half a brain, at times size does matter, if you have a 1" its better to stay off sex with women, but 4" is fine, do not worry, enjoy it.

[lScottl]

look if you can **REMOVED** then you can surley have **REMOVED**. i'm 13 and ive gone all the way, she didnt seem to look at my **REMOVED**, we just did it, and she never said anything about it.

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[AndyDude312]

Absolutely ironic..

NONE of you obviously have had sex yet, because you would know, size doesn't really matter, girls enjoy it if well you enjoy it too, 4 inches shouldn't be so bad, style is important if you wanna get '****o-techinical'.

Don't worry, enjoy the time, sex is something you should enjoy, not be worried about.

Also I'd like to clear up some crap, the average penis size NOTICE AVERAGE NOT THE SIZE YOU HAVE TO HAVE TO HAVE GOOD SEX. is about 5 inches, because not everyone on the world has a 12" penis, if you think i'm wrong, go work out what average means.

Ok, i'll edit it because i'm sure some of you have half a brain, at times size does matter, if you have a 1" its better to stay off sex with women, but 4" is fine, do not worry, enjoy it.

Great repeating pattern lol!

[RunescapeWorker]

Ok I really want you to come to a national karate competition to whoop your *** legally, you can't do anything but spam andy.

[AndyDude312]

[Sorry bout off-topic post]

I do a lot more than spam thank you very much. I can be quite helpful in a lot of cases.

[Jordy]

Ok I really want you to come to a national karate competition to whoop your *** legally, you can't do anything but spam andy.
Lmao that's one of the most pathetic come backs from a argument I've heard in a good while. From reading your posts you appear to be the ideal person, sex goddess and know it all, hard man, karate champion... you even have cannabis as your display picture.

[Browney]

not really s;
it only hurts because it breaks the hymen, which in some people is already broken.

When my class were told in sex education that it can be broken when you ride horses alot we all looked at this one girl who does horse riding. She was just like "What?" Aha. :P

[Antony]

Size varys, if your 13 and have a 4 inch penis or 13 and have a 9inch one.

When I was 13 mine was 8 inches.

It will grow, don't worry.

You always differ from the rest don't you!

[Technologic]

Lol, what's wrong with him having sex. It's his choice.. I did it when i was 13 :]

[MattyBoy]

Im 13 next week and my penis is 5 inches.

[Callum.]

lol, i didn't think people actually measured.

i prefer to keep mine to myself rather than "mine iks 6" i winzzz"

[Jordy]

Im 13 next week and my penis is 5 inches.
I don't really give one to be fair, this isn't a 'Post your penis size thread'. However there's lots of dodgy members who'd probably post theirs, so there's always a idea for you.

[[DC]eption]

If she loves you for the size of your penis, she really needs to get a life. Love is emotional and mental, not physical "/

You did mention looks if when you said physical, if im not mistaken.

[Metric.]

One word: So?

If she loves you for the size of your penis, she really needs to get a life. Love is emotional and mental, not physical "/

They're 13, they don't understand emotional or mental relationships.

[Sony.Com]

They're 13, they don't understand emotional or mental relationships.

Exactly. You don't fully understand until your well into adult hood in most cases. It seems like sex is just a game to them too.. so kinda like.. "Oh, I have a penis, my girlfriend has a vagina, lets put one and one together and get it on. But I think im small, so should I just put off the game sex until im bigger"

[Nightrose]

Exactly. You don't fully understand until your well into adult hood in most cases. It seems like sex is just a game to them too.. so kinda like.. "Oh, I have a penis, my girlfriend has a vagina, lets put one and one together and get it on. But I think im small, so should I just put off the game sex until im bigger"

good post + rep
in many cases ven 16 yr olds arnt ready for the emotional and metal side to sex. It just a game to see who can lose their virginity first.

[Cixso]

good post + rep
in many cases ven 16 yr olds arnt ready for the emotional and metal side to sex. It just a game to see who can lose their virginity first.

100% True.

Although it's mainly chavs that do it now.

I love it how the kids on this forum say thingy or tool. It's called a penis, yes! amazing. It's nothing to be embarrassed about when stating nor is it a swear word. It can be rude depending on the situation or term you are stating it in.

Don't be embarrassed about your penis size what so ever. Least you had the balls to share it with us. Nor are you trying to get attention, you are being very honest. Not like some previous posts.
-----
OMG I HAVE A 7INCH PENIS :O!!! WHY IS IT TO SMALL :'( (secretly shown off)

To these grumpy gits, it's called sarcasm.
----

Anyways, just don't let it get you down and do what you both want to do. I would never post my penis size unless I turned chav and wanted to show off.

I respect you for telling the information and I do advise you just not to worry about the size.

[Decapitated!]

"is it in yet ?"

[BellyButtons]

K, so, i'm really embarrased, because my girlfriend and i have gotten to a point in our relationship where we want to take it further, and we are both gonna lose our " flower " but, lets just call it my " tool " is only 4 inches and i dont want her to laugh at it and tell everyone, what shall i do

-TylerHarding
__________________________________________________ ______________
Newfoundland, Canada!


Women don't care about the size of a mans penis, it's the thickness. Okay so I dunno if that is true but two genius guys said on tha telly.

If she loves you she wont mind, if she laughs at u then she aint any good.

[MangoJ]

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[Jordy]

Oh yeah, some fat nerd who plays Runescape and watches LOTR definately knows what a woman really wants. He's EXTREMELY experienced when it comes to sex, for sure!
What, can you read women's minds, Rune? Are you connected to them? Heh. You're more connected to a fork, you douche.

Oh yeah, I just saw this, but you're only 13? Oh, you must really be experienced when it comes in the bedroom! You really irritate me, to be honest. You "flipped" on those kids? Please. ********. If that really happened, they'd kick your *** so bad. They'd make you their ***** for sure.

Everyone has sex whoever they are, even if they are nerds. I don't see why because he's a nerd he can't find love, and make it! Just because nerds don't appeal to you, they do to other people.

Bill Gates is the most stereotyped nerd ever. He's got 3 kids and a wife?
Then again, the wife could be after the money!

[Mentor]

Oh yeah, some fat nerd who plays Runescape and watches LOTR definately knows what a woman really wants. He's EXTREMELY experienced when it comes to sex, for sure!
What, can you read women's minds, Rune? Are you connected to them? Heh. You're more connected to a fork, you douche.

And i take it you do? :rolleyes:

[Browney]

Bill Gates is the most stereotyped nerd ever. He's got 3 kids and a wife?
Then again, the wife could be after the money!

I'd be the family ******* dog if I could get my hands on his money. :D

[Virgin Mary]

LISTEN TO ME
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micropenis
FEEL LUCKY

[Earthquake]

Look yea, this thread is proper funny, i bet ur balls aint even dropped yet and your posting this because ur bored so tell you wot, turn gay and do your dog up your *** you mother ******* *****

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[mrwoooooooo]

Look yea, this thread is proper funny, i bet ur balls aint even dropped yet and your posting this because ur bored so tell you wot, turn gay and do your dog up your *** you mother ******* *****
Who the hell are you talking to?

[Boonzeet]

LMAO. Language :rolleyes:

[MangoJ]

Everyone has sex whoever they are, even if they are nerds. I don't see why because he's a nerd he can't find love, and make it! Just because nerds don't appeal to you, they do to other people.

Bill Gates is the most stereotyped nerd ever. He's got 3 kids and a wife?
Then again, the wife could be after the money!

Stick a goddamn dradle up your mother's ***!

[[DC]eption]

, turn gay and do your dog up your *** you mother ******* *****

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Keep your twisted habbits to yourself please :) and a bit homophobic are we?

[.:!Robbo!:.]

Originally Posted by Earthquake http://habboxforum.com/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://habboxforum.com/showthread.php?p=3706349#post3706349)
Look yea, this thread is proper funny, i bet ur balls aint even dropped yet and your posting this because ur bored so tell you wot, turn gay and do your dog up your *** you mother ******* *****


Why do you always have a negative thing to say abut every post you read? you seem to never agree or believe anything....

Also dnt matter about your penis size if she laughs then she aint the right one for you, but i'm sure she won't.

[womanizer]

are u asian

[Cixso]

are u asian

I hope your not going to say what I think you want to say.

[.:!Robbo!:.]

I hope your not going to say what I think you want to say.
Lol






Edit: btw i know this is a pointless post i made.

[Throne Sofa]

omgz manz!!
mine is 50" on a floppy.

haha lol "are you asian"

anyway I wouldnt worry at 13 4" is kl

[Crimson]

50".... ok then?

[Bun]

Don't worry about it, at least you have the balls to post this.
And for all you flaming nerds, just because you know naugty words, you don't have to include them in every sentence :rolleyes:.

[Dubble]

Idk tbh At least you have the ball to say it but i would if no one knows me :rolleyes:

Put so weight on it? And if she laughts at it say "Omg look at them misqutoe bits on your nipples OMG"

[sim]

4 inch, isnt that small, and it will grow. and it always looks smaller from when looking from above.

[FlyingJesus]

PROTIP: thread starter is a fake.

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[Fonejacker]

do people even get penis that small? it must be [-] when it's not errect

[jordang16]

Dude dont worry even if ur penis stays 4 inches it isnt that small

[Fonejacker]

Dude dont worry even if ur penis stays 4 inches it isnt that small
Ye it is, tbh

[le harry]

rizter how dare you edit tom's post.

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[Technologic]

Absolutely ironic..


Ok, i'll edit it because i'm sure some of you have half a brain, at times size does matter, if you have a 1" its better to stay off sex with women, but 4" is fine, do not worry, enjoy it.

LOL 1" penis. "Um.. i lost it again"

But seriously, nobody cares how big or small your penis is if they truly love thou. If they do care then they are too vain.

[jordang16]

Ye it is, tbh
i wouldnt go that far 3 inches would be small 4 inches is in between small and average 3 inches would be abit small but still enough to satisfy a women i would say 4 inches was medium to be honest so dont worry about it dude

[e5..]

Lol and you would know all about that?

well if your 13, your probs still growing, i just dont understand if your gonna head into sex, that she hasnt all ready seen it =/ you also didnt say if its 4inches when erected, But anyway WAIT if your not comfortable and till your legal which is like 14 or something =/ its lower than the uk in certain province's in Canada.

Its not te lenght that matters, its the way you use it.

Lol but then again im a girl so i wouldnt know about penis sizes and how long they grow for etc


bit in bold.. I lol'd irl at that coz u give someone head and your said head into sex, soz but LOL ROFL..

anyway ye so 4 inch is cool im 13 n i'm not willing to discuss the size of ma penis, i think it's more than 4 inch but idc tbh. Don't let it bother you tbh....

[jordang16]

And another thing i read somewhere it doesnt stop growing till ur 21

[Soy]

13 for a sexual relationship? :S Well its how you use it not what you feed it...

[Metric.]

K, so, i'm really embarrased, because my girlfriend and i have gotten to a point in our relationship where we want to take it further, and we are both gonna lose our " flower " but, lets just call it my " tool " is only 4 inches and i dont want her to laugh at it and tell everyone, what shall i do

-TylerHarding
__________________________________________________ ______________
Newfoundland, Canada!

Use your fingers and play with her "spot".

[lDuckFunk]

Get Her Drunk, She wont Care what Size it is :Ocass14

[Mitch4?]

Don't worrys mates.
Despite what some tests say, the average is not about 7 inches. They are the tests when people just tell people what there size is - obviously lots of poeple add the extra inch or so on.

Well anyway, the average size when the person taking the survey measure is normally around 5.8"-6" for a fully grown man, but at 13 i didn't grow anymore from now when im 15.

Did you know 0.01% or summit like that of males have a micro-penis. which is under 2 inches, (5.2cm) so it's not likely you'll be made that much fun at! xo just do it in the darketh.

[Typoh]

Look its not the size that matters its how you use it :)
Myself i prefer how Boys use it on me.
and tbh, at your age the penis size you have is avrage

[Sony.Com]

Look its not the size that matters its how you use it :)
Myself i prefer how Boys use it on me.
and tbh, at your age the penis size you have is avrage

haha, I like that. +rep

So im curious, have you actually had sex with your girlfriend after this thread? As far as I know you haven't given us an update ( i skipped acouple pages of posts tho:P )

[Bonxy]

aint you a bit young to be having sex anyways ?

[Acoustic]

K, so, i'm really embarrased, because my girlfriend and i have gotten to a point in our relationship where we want to take it further, and we are both gonna lose our " flower " but, lets just call it my " tool " is only 4 inches and i dont want her to laugh at it and tell everyone, what shall i do

-TylerHarding
__________________________________________________ ______________
Newfoundland, Canada!

If she loves you that much she won't care?

[5,5]

How old are you?

[Royal]

Dude it doesn't matter how big it is its how you use it, because a thin 7 incher can please the same as a think 4 incher so just be proud of your "tool" lol.

[-mad-monkey-]

K, so, i'm really embarrased, because my girlfriend and i have gotten to a point in our relationship where we want to take it further, and we are both gonna lose our " flower " but, lets just call it my " tool " is only 4 inches and i dont want her to laugh at it and tell everyone, what shall i do

-TylerHarding
__________________________________________________ ______________
Newfoundland, Canada!


Say pop the cherry or sommit, stick your thumb in the pie, etc in future, not lose your "flower"...

Use a penis pump, I have the same sort of problem, my willi is only 4 inches also bt it makes it up to 5 and a half!

[Ellis.]

If you're not comfortable exposing yourself to your girlfriend, then I don't think that you two are ready for sex to be honest.

Sex should be with two people who are fully comfortable with each other physically and mentally.

If you feel embarassed, talk to her about it. If she's really the person for you, I'm sure she's willing to discuss about such a subject with you.

[-mad-monkey-]

yeye, you should be comfortable showing off your "holiday money" before you spend it.

[stratosphere]

yeye, you should be comfortable showing off your "holiday money" before you spend it.

You seem to know a lot of euthanisms for this subject :rolleyes:


And yeah, talk about it with your girlfriend seems like a good idea.

[shiver]

u must of had a bucket already then babe
LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

[efq]

er lol.

do it lol. i ent reli bovard tbh. nd.

If u dnt dare im sure she wont mind you pleasuring her :D

Most 13+ have pleasured girls.

[Samishlol]

Don't be ashamed of it.

[Smits]

If she hasn't seen anything before, she won't know it's small. Personally, i think your like 11.