View Full Version : People are soo full of suspicion nowadays
-Soph-
03-09-2007, 05:53 AM
http://consumerist.com/consumer/unruly-passengers/american-airlines-flight-grounded-after-passengers-complain-about-men-speaking-arabic-295131.php
Jazza
03-09-2007, 06:34 AM
Only in America could that happen.
-Soph-
03-09-2007, 06:53 AM
I know..
i'm not surprised that she was cautious and a little nervous, but to actually ground the flight... wow.
RedStratocas
03-09-2007, 01:55 PM
Only in America could that happen.
hahahahahahaha, yeah, because i never ever hear british complaining about muslims, especially not on this forum. i doubt it could happen over there :]
& i bet there was more to this. there are crazy people everywhere. this lady probably would not shut up so it was their only choice. its a law to ground a flight when someone is unruly.
today
03-09-2007, 01:58 PM
I know..
i'm not surprised that she was cautious and a little nervous, but to actually ground the flight... wow.
To be honest i wouldnt like it either.
I mean its better to be carefull then get blown up after all.
:Hazel
03-09-2007, 01:59 PM
hahahahahahaha, yeah, because i never ever hear british complaining about muslims, especially not on this forum. i doubt it could happen over there :]
course it could now, we're getting more like the US everyday what with gun crime etc.
Wootzeh
03-09-2007, 02:03 PM
Meh. It would of crossed my mind too.
RedStratocas
03-09-2007, 02:03 PM
course it could now, we're getting more like the US everyday what with gun crime etc.
i know, my post was sarcastic.
awww you guys learned how to shoot guns at eachother? :] thats cute.
Smits
03-09-2007, 02:04 PM
Yeh, i agree, britain is getting more and more like the USA everyday.
:Hazel
03-09-2007, 02:05 PM
i know, my post was sarcastic.
awww you guys learned how to shoot guns at eachother? :] thats cute.
theres huge media coverage here at the moment because an 11 year old got shot (they think) accidently in crossfire between 2 rival gangs in liverpool. absolutely shocking.
Sammeth.
03-09-2007, 02:09 PM
i know, my post was sarcastic.
awww you guys learned how to shoot guns at eachother? :] thats cute.
Yeah, its no wonder they call us the 51st State. The way we are going, its not good. We need to crawl out of the US' **** as soon as possible. Its far from cute. An 11 year old being shot isnt cute. Its a shame.
As for the plane being grounded, I guess its right to be over cautious, but only with sensible things. I mean speaking in arabic... its their language!! If they were looking and acting suspicious I could understand, but speaking in their mother tongue isnt something to ground a plane over.
i think that was just idiotic, they are just steroetyping that every asian person who is speaking arabic or an asian language are terrorists... its just dumb.
today
03-09-2007, 02:13 PM
Yeah, its no wonder they call us the 51st State. The way we are going, its not good. We need to crawl out of the US' **** as soon as possible.
As for the plane being grounded, I guess its right to be over cautious, but only with sensible things. I mean speaking in arabic... its their language!! If they were looking and acting suspicious I could understand, but speaking in their mother tongue isnt something to ground a plane over.
Well to be honest, i know its unfair but every asian i see or muslim's i stand away from 'cus i dont trust them and to be fair were a English country and well, if they want to speak their language do it in their own private home, i hate it when they dont.
i think that was just idiotic, they are just steroetyping that every asian person who is speaking arabic or an asian language are terrorists... its just dumb.
I steroetype them tbh. Its just whats gone on it made me do it :s
Well to be honest, i know its unfair but every asian i see or muslim's i stand away from 'cus i dont trust them and to be fair were a English country and well, if they want to speak their language do it in their own private home, i hate it when they dont.
I steroetype them tbh. Its just whats gone on it made me do it :s
Well i just find it dumb, im asian, altho i cant speak arabic its dumb. Its like saying u walk away from every black man because he may shoot you, or every english man because he may be drunk and doesnt support the same team as you...
Sammeth.
03-09-2007, 02:20 PM
Well to be honest, i know its unfair but every asian i see or muslim's i stand away from 'cus i dont trust them and to be fair were a English country and well, if they want to speak their language do it in their own private home, i hate it when they dont.
I steroetype them tbh. Its just whats gone on it made me do it :s
I think thats unfair to say. What if a Welsh person came to live in England. Would you expect them only to ever speak Welsh in their own home?! I know you are entitled to your opinion, and thats yours - this is mine. Not every muslim is a terrorist.
umm, are they serious?
Proply the once having argument was so embarrased that they didint want to tell anybody what they been arguing about.
HA-HA.
Lambda
03-09-2007, 02:57 PM
In many areas of crime the UK is worse than the US.
CJW93
03-09-2007, 02:59 PM
Can you blame people for being so suspicius? I no that I am
Concentric2
03-09-2007, 03:01 PM
In many areas of crime the UK is worse than the US.
If you're going to make a claim like that at least come out with some evidence
Sammeth.
03-09-2007, 03:03 PM
In many areas of crime the UK is worse than the US.
I wanna know where you heard that from, as reports say otherwise.
Lambda
03-09-2007, 03:11 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_United_States
http://www.crimestatistics.org.uk/output/Page1.asp
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_tot_cri_percap-crime-total-crimes-per-capita
There are all sorts of links. Take it from a foreigner who lives in the USA: crime doesn't appear nearly as bad as the British seem to think, and I live in one of the biggest cities in the world (NYC). When I compare it to Moscow and Russia in general, it's like walking through heaven here.
I have been to the UK. I didn't spend long there, yet it only took me that long to get a real taste for your youth.
RedStratocas
03-09-2007, 03:12 PM
In many areas of crime the UK is worse than the US.
where in the U.S.?
you guys are thinking that gun violence is evenly spread out throughout america, which isn't true. there are some states up north that are safer than any european country.
today
03-09-2007, 03:19 PM
Well i just find it dumb, im asian, altho i cant speak arabic its dumb. Its like saying u walk away from every black man because he may shoot you, or every english man because he may be drunk and doesnt support the same team as you...
Once again i may seem racism but i generally dont tend to talk to asain's, muslim's or coloured people (is that the right saying?)
Its the way i've been brought up with my family, im no were near as bad as my family. But its life.
I think thats unfair to say. What if a Welsh person came to live in England. Would you expect them only to ever speak Welsh in their own home?! I know you are entitled to your opinion, and thats yours - this is mine. Not every muslim is a terrorist.
Its not the same with Welsh people, there not "known" to blow up buldings, plans ect. I personally blame the media for saying "asain's, muslims will blow anything they can" [:
Sammeth.
03-09-2007, 03:34 PM
Once again i may seem racism but i generally dont tend to talk to asain's, muslim's or coloured people (is that the right saying?)
Its the way i've been brought up with my family, im no were near as bad as my family. But its life.
Its not the same with Welsh people, there not "known" to blow up buldings, plans ect. I personally blame the media for saying "asain's, muslims will blow anything they can" [:
But you are basing the whole Muslim community on a very small percentage of people who do terrorise us. Its not just Muslims who can be terrorists.
today
03-09-2007, 03:54 PM
But you are basing the whole Muslim community on a very small percentage of people who do terrorise us. Its not just Muslims who can be terrorists.
I know, English people can too but its just 'classed' as muslims who are the major terrorists. Once again i blame the media but its the way i am i guess.
Metric.
03-09-2007, 03:56 PM
if they're aribic they've probably been strip searched and then had every cavity of their bodies checked for wepons.
Dan2nd
03-09-2007, 04:05 PM
This is stupid what about those Irish terrorists that used to bomb london? would we halt the whole london underground because an Irish man has just got on board a train of course not!
Jamie!
03-09-2007, 06:05 PM
This is stupid what about those Irish terrorists that used to bomb london? would we halt the whole london underground because an Irish man has just got on board a train of course not!
it's totally different though, we would be able to understand them if they were irish (to an extent..) plus, they wouldn't halt the whole underground, they would just halt sections of it more than likely, just like they only grounded one plane.
today
03-09-2007, 06:15 PM
Exaclty they didnt close the airport ect.
-Soph-
03-09-2007, 06:30 PM
i'll admit it I do get nervous around these kinds of people at the airport, I think everyone stereotypes deep down.... but i'm just surprised she actually reported it... and it actually got grounded.
LeftForDead
03-09-2007, 06:31 PM
i know, my post was sarcastic.
awww you guys learned how to shoot guns at eachother? :] thats cute.
Yep:D
You guys learned how to shoot it at the Afgans and Iraqi's?
Sorry that joke was a bit harsh, maybe just think of it like friendly fire?
rofl at above.
it wouldbe crossed my mind though.
today
03-09-2007, 06:37 PM
i'll admit it I do get nervous around these kinds of people at the airport, I think everyone stereotypes deep down.... but i'm just surprised she actually reported it... and it actually got grounded.
As i said if you was that women and heard aload of speech which you didnt understand and just saw two asain's/muslims on a plane whats the first thign you think.
I'll panic :o
As i said if you was that women and heard aload of speech which you didnt understand and just saw two asain's/muslims on a plane whats the first thign you think.
I'll panic :o
Whip them with your FUNKY hair<33
today
03-09-2007, 06:47 PM
Whip them with your FUNKY hair<33
i actually lol'd.
-Soph-
03-09-2007, 06:59 PM
As i said if you was that women and heard aload of speech which you didnt understand and just saw two asain's/muslims on a plane whats the first thign you think.
I'll panic :o
I knowwww, i'd get really bad thoughts in my head, but I wouldn't report it.. unless they were doing something really suspicious...
edible
03-09-2007, 07:31 PM
I knowwww, i'd get really bad thoughts in my head, but I wouldn't report it.. unless they were doing something really suspicious...
Same with me, Everyone stereotypes deep down. And cos of terrorists and that, I think everyone stereotypes foreign people. The media does always say that terrorists are usually muslim, indian, arabaic, etc.
And im sure that's why people dont like them speaking in their own language.
In my opinion too, I dont like women, covering their faces.. I know it's their religion and beliefs, but I really just dont like it tbh, Cos you cant see their faces properly or their hair. We have our beliefs and they have theirs, Im sure they complain about us too. Im not racist either, I have heaps of friends that arent English, or White.
I'd only ever report it, if they were being suspicious.
-Soph-
03-09-2007, 08:54 PM
Well if you look at the well known terrorist attacks, they are done by middle eastern men, muslims, arabs etc.
I think we have pretty much every reason to stereotype them, Everyone knows that not every Muslim is a terrorist, but we'll still stereotype them... if you get me..
LeftForDead
03-09-2007, 11:14 PM
i dont think all muslims are terroists like, but isnt it funny how all mterroists are muslims:p
i dont think all muslims are terroists like, but isnt it funny how all mterroists are muslims?not all terrorists, just the current terrorists are, well they happen to be the corrupt muslims ;s its true ppl stereotype, i do stereotype but its just too extreme..
-Wolverine
03-09-2007, 11:57 PM
Well to be honest, i know its unfair but every asian i see or muslim's i stand away from 'cus i dont trust them and to be fair were a English country and well, if they want to speak their language do it in their own private home, i hate it when they dont.
Sorry, but that's the most ridiculous thing i've read. If you see a colored person (chinese, middle eastern, indian) you automatically will go away from them? Because every colored person is a bad person and do crimes nonstop while all white people are angels? Also about you not trusting them, let's say you meet Tiger Woods (yes he's part Asian). He's willing to give you an autograph, but would you say "oh no thanks, I don't trust you, your part asian and your colored so therefore your a bad person."?
Also about England being an English country, okay now people can't speak another language besides english? Say a French tourist comes to England and can't speak english. You'd be fine with it because they probably are white. But if you see an Indian person talking hindi you'd probably think 'OMG TERRORIST!!!'.
Once again i may seem racism but i generally dont tend to talk to asain's, muslim's or coloured people (is that the right saying?)
Its not the same with Welsh people, there not "known" to blow up buldings, plans ect. I personally blame the media for saying "asain's, muslims will blow anything they can" [:
You may seem racist? You are, lol. So will you hate Russian people too then? I mean they've blown up buildings and taken over building and have done terrorist attacks too in Georgia and places like that. You probably won't because the media has barely focused on what's going on there in Eastern Europe, but have been focusing on all the other attacks going on in the US and UK.
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Shawnstra
04-09-2007, 12:26 AM
Isn't that racist? Why can't Arabic people board a plane and be proud of their language?
today
04-09-2007, 11:44 AM
Sorry, but that's the most ridiculous thing i've read. If you see a colored person (chinese, middle eastern, indian) you automatically will go away from them? Because every colored person is a bad person and do crimes nonstop while all white people are angels? Also about you not trusting them, let's say you meet Tiger Woods (yes he's part Asian). He's willing to give you an autograph, but would you say "oh no thanks, I don't trust you, your part asian and your colored so therefore your a bad person."?
Also about England being an English country, okay now people can't speak another language besides english? Say a French tourist comes to England and can't speak english. You'd be fine with it because they probably are white. But if you see an Indian person talking hindi you'd probably think 'OMG TERRORIST!!!'.
You may seem racist? You are, lol. So will you hate Russian people too then? I mean they've blown up buildings and taken over building and have done terrorist attacks too in Georgia and places like that. You probably won't because the media has barely focused on what's going on there in Eastern Europe, but have been focusing on all the other attacks going on in the US and UK.
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Pretty much yes. But as i said my family are very racist and its how i've been brought up.
Stupidest thing ever seen/heard/done.
-Wolverine
04-09-2007, 07:55 PM
Pretty much yes. But as i said my family are very racist and its how i've been brought up.
I know but even if you've been brought up a certain way it's not hard to change..
-Soph-
05-09-2007, 04:57 AM
I wouldn't call stereotyping racist, I will admit it's a fine line, but I believe that being nervous around these certain kind of people at the airport hasn't crossed it.
I do believe that grounding the flight is wayy over the top though.
Virgin Mary
05-09-2007, 07:08 AM
Some terrorists are white Muslims who've been converted. Most terrorists wouldn't generally be stupid enough to make themselves suspicious and would have have it planned out or speak in code. Al Quaeda is probably happy being stereotyped because they have a secret bunch of white and black Muslims to send out to do terrorist attacks.
LeftForDead
05-09-2007, 07:28 AM
When your in a airport and you see a irish person, do you think they could have a bomb?
After all the IRA did alot of bombing and the SAS even had to be sent in to stop that it and it was a long operation.
Same with russians, (i think it was some of them due to one of them having a russian hand grandade) When you see a russian near a embassy do you think that they may start a hostage situation?
Whenever i see someone who is foreign in a airport i always give them a 2nd look, but then when im out in the town and i see english people there i give them a 2nd look too just looking to see if there breaking the law. Does that mean im racist? Just because im from the same country doesnt mean i cant be racist against them does?
today
05-09-2007, 10:59 AM
I know but even if you've been brought up a certain way it's not hard to change..
Actually it is, i've been that way for 16 years, i doubt i'll change not while im near my family.
Actually it is, i've been that way for 16 years, i doubt i'll change not while im near my family.But u can change, my family beleives in god and other stuff.. i dont and ive been told that kinda stuff my whole life.
today
05-09-2007, 11:04 AM
But u can change, my family beleives in god and other stuff.. i dont and ive been told that kinda stuff my whole life.
You wanted to change, i couldnt give two.. yeah as said as long as they stay away from me i really dont care though i'm not the only one who thinks the same as me.
Just the way i am
You wanted to change, i couldnt give two.. yeah as said as long as they stay away from me i really dont care though i'm not the only one who thinks the same as me.
Just the way i ami know but i just dont get how ppl are racist tho.. like how can u think less of someone because of their colour? ;s
Anonymous
05-09-2007, 05:05 PM
I remember I was coming home from Portugal, and on board were 7 Pakistani men with HUGE Handluggage and talking some weird language, I don't like to be racist but woah, it scared me a hell of a lot!
reindeer.
05-09-2007, 07:10 PM
wow, that's a new one.
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