6 years since ''September The 11th 2001''

[TitaniumRubber]

Exactly 6 years since two planes crashed into the twin towers and bombs went off inside the building and the twin towers and building 7 went down.

Exactly 6 years since bush flew the binlardons to safety.

Exactly six years since a missile hit the pentigon.

Exactly six years since 1000s of people died.

Exactly six years since a day of orginized desaster!

[-Soph-]

it wasn't the government, you could at least provide evidence why you think so, there were no bombs in the towers, a missile did not hit the pentagon unless you class a hijacked plane as a missile.

[Soil]

it wasn't the government, you could at least provide evidence why you think so, there were no bombs in the towers, a missile did not hit the pentagon unless you class a hijacked plane as a missile.

There is no video evidence that a plane hit the pentagon. Also if a plane hit, they would find 2 holes - engine / wings of the plane.

They didnt.
Also the hole caused was smaller than the hole a plane would cause. There was a good video prooving it.
The goverment also took away all the CCTV videos from around the area.

[CrazyColaist]

Exactly six years since a missile hit the pentigon.


it was a plane you fg.


and if you went up the twin towers where the plane was you wouldnt see them would you?

[@xP]

there were no bombs in the towers,

You may find thats a opinion.
Many people so think there were bombs planted in them to help cause more damage to the steal.

[Alkaz]

It was only like 360 people whom died wasnt it? Now thousands.

And i dont mean to sound evil by saying only but sort of it wasnt thousands im sure.

Btw its 12th september today, you do your day wrong.

[Technologic]

Ohhh. Lets all praise the americans who died. Fgs. What about iraq and afghanistan? Thousands of iraqis and afghans have been killed and maimed by americand and british forces and suicde bombers provoked by american and british forces

[Jambe]

I cant belive all you guys are flaming him for remembering that horrible disaster. Your all so evil. Caring about the details more than the acctual event :(

Anyway, Yea.. it was a sad day

[Galaxay1]

There was no bombs in the towers and also wasnt a missile/plane hit the pentagon. :S

[Jazza]

Exactly 6 years since two planes crashed into the twin towers and bombs went off inside the building and the twin towers and building 7 went down.

Exactly 6 years since bush flew the binlardons to safety.

Exactly six years since a missile hit the pentigon.

Exactly six years since 1000s of people died.

Exactly six years since a day of orginized desaster!

What are binlardons? Also conspiracy theories are just that, theories until proof is found (and a video of people saying there were explosions at the top of the tower isn't proof).

[LeftForDead]

Ohhh. Lets all praise the americans who died. Fgs. What about iraq and afghanistan? Thousands of iraqis and afghans have been killed and maimed by americand and british forces and suicde bombers provoked by american and british forces
Actually when we first went in (america and british) we went in looking for the group who did this. Iraq is a completely diffrent story that was about WOMD's there none to be found but we still ridded a country of a abusive leader and are 'restoring peace'. We only fire once being fired at in Iraq and Afganistan, so someone can walk down the street and be holding a gun and we cant shoot. We can arrest them like:)
Also we didnt actually make most of the suicide bombers angry, its a war between sunny and sheer(sp) they keep on blowing each other up and killing there own people while they are there.

Oh and yano how americans have massive lifts in buildings like this?
Well maybe these dropping were the so called 'bombs'
Because they would of got traces of the explosives as i do belive they went in to 9/11 afterwards to check if anything had gone off.

[Janet Snakehole]

RIP to all who died on 9/11.

:)

[Concentric2]

What are binlardons?
The Binladen family - they were visiting the US at the time and were flown out specially by the US government.

If a plane hit the Pentagon then why wasn't there a huge plane wreck? I'm pretty sure it must have been a missile.

And 088, the number killed was around 3,000.

[Naythi.]

The plane didnt hit the pentagon ...

It was ment to , But crashed into a field ... Then the other 2 crashed into the towers !

All i can say is Sorry to the families for there losses . . .

And hope terrorists will one day realise ... We havnt done nothing , If they dont like the goverment or the country ... MOVE BACK TO IRAQ or ISRALE !

[adidas™]

i cba joining the argument so R.I.P to everyone who died

[Lycan]

The plane didnt hit the pentagon ...

It was ment to , But crashed into a field ... Then the other 2 crashed into the towers !

All i can say is Sorry to the families for there losses . . .

And hope terrorists will one day realise ... We havnt done nothing , If they dont like the goverment or the country ... MOVE BACK TO IRAQ or ISRALE !


I'm assuming that was a Typo considering a plane did hit the Pentagon and another that was meant to be for the white house (so they say) crashed into a field (Where the passengers were meant to of fought back aganst the terroists) and one plane hit each tower as the towers weren't meant to be stuck by flying objects.

The Towers were also attacked in the 1990s when a large bomb was set off at the base of one of the towers but the towers were designed to withstand such attacks.

3,000 lives lost and Terroists who aimed to only in this case to bring Fear to the US managed to do so.
Year the World Trade Centre was built: 1970
Number of companies housed in the WTC: 430
Number working in World Trade Centre on average working day prior to 11 September: 50,000
Average number of daily visitors: 140,000
Number killed in attack on New York, in the Twin Towers and in aircraft that crashed into them: 2,823


Distance, in miles, from which the burning towers were visible: 20 Maximum heat of fires, in degrees fahrenheit, at World Trade Center site: 2,300
Number of days underground fires at World Trade Centre continued to burn: 69
Number of days that workers dug up debris at Ground Zero, searching for body parts: 230
Number of body parts collected: 19,500
Number of bodies discovered intact: 291
Number of victims identified by New York medical examiner: 1,102
Number of death certificates issued without a body at request of victims' families: 1,616
Number of people still classified as missing from the World Trade Centre that day: 105
Number of people who died when American Airlines flight 11 from Boston, Massachusetts, to Los Angeles, California, crashed into the north tower of the World Trade Center: 92
Number of people who died when United Airlines flight 175
from Boston, Massachusetts, to Los Angeles, California, crashed into the south tower of the World Trade Center: 65
Number of people who died when United Airlines flight 93,
from Newark, New Jersey, to San Francisco, California, crashed in rural southwest Pennsylvania: 45
Number of people who died when American Airlines flight 77,
from Washington to Los Angeles, crashed into the Pentagon: 64
Number of peole killed in the Pentagon: 125
Number of survivors rescued from Ground Zero: 0

Edit:


Actually when we first went in (america and british) we went in looking for the group who did this. Iraq is a completely diffrent story that was about WOMD's there none to be found but we still ridded a country of a abusive leader and are 'restoring peace'. We only fire once being fired at in Iraq and Afganistan, so someone can walk down the street and be holding a gun and we cant shoot. We can arrest them like:)
Also we didnt actually make most of the suicide bombers angry, its a war between sunny and sheer(sp) they keep on blowing each other up and killing there own people while they are there.

Oh and yano how americans have massive lifts in buildings like this?
Well maybe these dropping were the so called 'bombs'
Because they would of got traces of the explosives as i do belive they went in to 9/11 afterwards to check if anything had gone off.


The Americans started Bombing Afgan another a month after 9/11 killing thousands of Civilians.

[Sammeth.]

It was only like 360 people whom died wasnt it? Not thousands.


The death toll was officially stated at the memorial service yesterday as 2,974. 24 people classed as missing, so I make that 2,998 missing or dead. So yeah, nearly 3,000. And this information is as up to date as it can be, as it was released on the 11th September 2007.

Edit: Oh, and Lycan, the truck bomb incident was 1993, not 1990.
Edit 2: My bad, I read it as "1990" when you put "1990s". Sorry :P

[Galaxay1]

They had no proof of pentagon plane?

And sam get to college

[Lycan]

The death toll was officially stated at the memorial service yesterday as 2,974. 24 people classed as missing, so I make that 2,998 missing or dead. So yeah, nearly 3,000. And this information is as up to date as it can be, as it was released on the 11th September 2007.

Edit: Oh, and Lycan, the truck bomb incident was 1993, not 1990.

loli didn't mean to say 1990 as in the year i meant as in the 90s .. 10 years as coudn't remember the year. i new it was around the start of the 90s

Thanks for the correction +rep :)

[Sammeth.]

loli didn't mean to say 1990 as in the year i meant as in the 90s .. 10 years as coudn't remember the year. i new it was around the start of the 90s

Thanks for the correction +rep :)
Eeek, I edited my post again at the same time you were posting, as you did put 1990s and I misread :P Either way it was correct :D

I have to say I beleive the two towers were brought down by a terrorist attack. I beleive WTC 7 was so damaged after the collapse of the two towers, that it did collapse. As did a church nearby I beleive.

The only thing I am shady about is the pentagon, but I just dont think the American Government would willingly kill innocent people. Least not 3,000 of them.

And Scott, I have the day off.

[-Soph-]

This is an interesting read:

http://internetdetectives.biz/case/loose-change-2#flight-77-wreckage

[Dan2nd]

This is an interesting read:

http://internetdetectives.biz/case/loose-change-2#flight-77-wreckage

Very Interesting + rep

I personally think 9/11 was a horrific terrorist attack which we need to put behind us. I think the world needs to move on and remember their loved ones lost that day in a good way instead of worrying what they may have suffered. We need to let these people finally rest in peace.

[FlyingJesus]

No offence to the families and friends of people killed on that day or whatever.. but this was SIX YEARS ago. Sure, it was a big attack, but in Europe we've been used to terrorists for decades. The only reason this is still big news every year is because America is so unused to being attacked on their own soil.

[Lycan]

No offence to the families and friends of people killed on that day or whatever.. but this was SIX YEARS ago. Sure, it was a big attack, but in Europe we've been used to terrorists for decades. The only reason this is still big news every year is because America is so unused to being attacked on their own soil.


that and the whole 3,000 dead in one movement the whole human planes as missles , the massive money loss and the effects it has on airports today :)

[xxMATTGxx]

No offence to the families and friends of people killed on that day or whatever.. but this was SIX YEARS ago. Sure, it was a big attack, but in Europe we've been used to terrorists for decades. The only reason this is still big news every year is because America is so unused to being attacked on their own soil.

This one shocked the world though. This is when around the world Airport security has been improved. The cockpit doors now have keypads and things like that etc.

[the wombats]

There is no video evidence that a plane hit the pentagon. Also if a plane hit, they would find 2 holes - engine / wings of the plane.

They didnt.
Also the hole caused was smaller than the hole a plane would cause. There was a good video prooving it.
The goverment also took away all the CCTV videos from around the area.

if i remember correctly then there was video evidence of something hitting the pentagon from a nearby carpark.

this has gone on too long now, i don't see the point in it really......

[:Liam]

There were no bombs in the tower, theres a thereory but it hasnt been prooved so its not correct to say there were.

[sock]

R.I.P, It was a plane that hit as there were witness' outside of the pentagon at the time and they saw it ;]

[Galaxay1]

Evidence/Proof? ;)

[Lycan]

Evidence/Proof? ;)

Proof being the dead people on the plane and the familys that won't have there loved ones return.

[the wombats]

R.I.P, It was a plane that hit as there were witness' outside of the pentagon at the time and they saw it ;]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paWiZ2Y8fRg

watch that. no way is that a plane that hit it. if it was then it wasn't the boeing they say it was.

[Lycan]

Tbh, who knows if thats an orignal footage... much editing could be down to it

and its not even that clear..


Pentagon ordered a missle to hit the building they were sitting in at the time, look its about to hit... andddddd dead.

[Galaxay1]

What a boeing 747 is about

155ft long
44ft high
124ft Wingspan

The whole was about 16ft diameter?

and aparently the engine, wings and vertical stabiliser just disappeared?.. The engine is 6ton and just disappeared?

[Lycan]

wasnt' a 747 that crashed into it.

[Galaxay1]

i meant 757..

[shok]

And hope terrorists will one day realise ... We havnt done nothing , If they dont like the goverment or the country ... MOVE BACK TO IRAQ or ISRALE !
how old are you? honestly you like to think you know about stuff but you dont cause you're a stupid kid

[sock]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paWiZ2Y8fRg

watch that. no way is that a plane that hit it. if it was then it wasn't the boeing they say it was.

if so, where would of the flight have gone? The flight did not reahc its destination and it did not land anywhere else, theres proof in airlines documents that that flight did board.

[PaulMacC]

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=57YTh5z6aHA

Disturbing 9/11 call from someone in the 83rd floor.

RIP <3

[Lycan]

I was going to make a new thread but i'll just add it onto this one


Knowing everything that you know now if you were at the base of the trade centre when the first aircraft struck would you fight your way up to help people escape and most probebly die after perhaps helping to saving a small number or would you just stand back and watch the horror you new was coming

I think i'd help.

[Dan2nd]

I was going to make a new thread but i'll just add it onto this one


Knowing everything that you know now if you were at the base of the trade centre when the first aircraft struck would you fight your way up to help people escape and most probebly die after perhaps helping to saving a small number or would you just stand back and watch the horror you new was coming

I think i'd help.


I know this sounds bad but I honestly would be to scared and would most probably just watch it happen

[Galaxay1]

You dont really know until your in the situation, atm you're thinking saving a few people and possibly living, but when you face the chance of actually dieing, you're pooing yourself as you want to live but you want as many people to live as possible.. but from my knowledge i'd assume i'd help a few people but wouldnt fight my way to the top of the building to help people. I'd most want to live.

[Lycan]

I know this sounds bad but I honestly would be to scared and would most probably just watch it happen

not bad at all.. its a very hard thing to choose if you new what you do now. something anyone could understand and why the fire fighters who continued to go into the second tower after the first collapsed trapping and killing many firefighters have my deepist respect

[Neversoft]

Why don't all of you stop arguing and pay some respect.

R.I.P to all those who died on 9/11.

And R.I.P Steve Irwin, who died 1 year ago on the 4th september.

[RedStratocas]

You may find thats a opinion.

how is that an opinion? not everything is an opinion. an opinion is something that cannot be proven true, and can be debated. "there were no bombs in the building" is a factual thing -- it's either it's true or it's not. if it's proven either way, you can't say the opposite and still be legally sane. here's a little test for you to find out how good you are from seeing an opinion from a fact; just think of what the sentence is.

1. water melts at 0 degrees celsius.
2. war is bad.
3. killing people is wrong
4. christmas falls on december 25th.
5. popsicles are tasty.

answer key: 1) fact 2) opinion 3) opinion 4) fact 5) opinion.

[Dentafrice,]

No offence to the families and friends of people killed on that day or whatever.. but this was SIX YEARS ago. Sure, it was a big attack, but in Europe we've been used to terrorists for decades. The only reason this is still big news every year is because America is so unused to being attacked on their own soil.

Yeah your right, and yet we still talk about princess diana? Its been what.. TEN years.

I guess you are not used to people dieing on your own soil.

So one person, VS 3000?

Yeah I know she was a fine lady, but if we can't continue to talk about 9/11 which was a much bigger deal then her death, why should we continue to talk about Princess Diana.

[Lycan]

Yeah your right, and yet we still talk about princess diana? Its been what.. TEN years.

I guess you are not used to people dieing on your own soil.

So one person, VS 3000?

Yeah I know she was a fine lady, but if we can't continue to talk about 9/11 which was a much bigger deal then her death, why should we continue to talk about Princess Diana.


because both are in Question by people who want to put good peoples lives into question.

[Dentafrice,]

because both are in Question by people who want to put good peoples lives into question.
Correct, so if you say get over 9/11.. I say get over her. No offense, but its the same thing.

[Lycan]

Correct, so if you say get over 9/11.. I say get over her. No offense, but its the same thing.


Difference between get over and leave the tortured and doubted memories to rest.

Tbh you never get over the death but you can let there death not be an argument and question there way of life and what happened in such ways

[Dentafrice,]

Difference between get over and leave the tortured and doubted memories to rest.

Tbh you never get over the death but you can let there death not be an argument and question there way of life and what happened in such ways
hmm true.

I mean, of course I was alive on Sept 11, I remember every moment of it.. and it IS hard to put away those memorys, probably impossible.. because it was so horrific being young a the time.

So saying let it go etc, most of you probably didn't live in America, and don't know how it feels to actually go through that.. living so close to NY at the time wondering.. where else is next?

[Lycan]

In Fairness London had the Train bombings, the underground being something a large majority use. But its understandable how someone in America and of course yourself feels about the topic

[Dentafrice,]

In Fairness London had the Train bombings, the underground being something a large majority use. But its understandable how someone in America and of course yourself feels about the topic
I agree, but the london bombings weren't as big, but of course I can't make a statement as I never have lived there :)

London bombings:
Deaths 52
Injured ≈700

[Lycan]

Wern't as big on a death scale but on an Impact scale its changed the secuirty and view on Londons transport. which involved a police officer shooting an innocent man on a station.

Terroism is to bring terror to its target.

What do you think the end result has been

[Dentafrice,]

Wern't as big on a death scale but on an Impact scale its changed the secuirty and view on Londons transport. which involved a police officer shooting an innocent man on a station.

Terroism is to bring terror to its target.

What do you think the end result has been
good point good point,

I guess as you said the death scale wasn't as big, but it is still the same concept, just on a smaller scale

[FlyingJesus]

Yeah your right, and yet we still talk about princess diana? Its been what.. TEN years.

I guess you are not used to people dieing on your own soil.

So one person, VS 3000?

Yeah I know she was a fine lady, but if we can't continue to talk about 9/11 which was a much bigger deal then her death, why should we continue to talk about Princess Diana.

There was stuff about her this year because as you said, it's been 10 years. It doesn't come up every year. Also she was a very important person; politically, royally, charitably, commercially and very much in the hearts of the people.


hmm true.

I mean, of course I was alive on Sept 11, I remember every moment of it.. and it IS hard to put away those memorys, probably impossible.. because it was so horrific being young a the time.

So saying let it go etc, most of you probably didn't live in America, and don't know how it feels to actually go through that.. living so close to NY at the time wondering.. where else is next?

As I said, Europe gets a lot of terrorist attacks. We had the IRA bombing England and parts of Ireland, there are political groups in Spain I know that have done massive train bombings, there were the fairly recent 7/7 London underground bombs, France gets riots and attacks... so don't bother trying the "you don't know what it's like" approach, because we've lived through it too. We just get on with it. Fair enough, there weren't 3000 deaths in one go or whatever, but don't dare trying to make it look as though America is the worst victim of terrorism just because of a one-off attack.
You ask "where else is next?", well how about you look at how many there have been previously before crying that you're scared now. Welcome to reality, America, you're not invincible.

[Dentafrice,]

There was stuff about her this year because as you said, it's been 10 years. It doesn't come up every year. Also she was a very important person; politically, royally, charitably, commercially and very much in the hearts of the people.



As I said, Europe gets a lot of terrorist attacks. We had the IRA bombing England and parts of Ireland, there are political groups in Spain I know that have done massive train bombings, there were the fairly recent 7/7 London underground bombs, France gets riots and attacks... so don't bother trying the "you don't know what it's like" approach, because we've lived through it too. We just get on with it. Fair enough, there weren't 3000 deaths in one go or whatever, but don't dare trying to make it look as though America is the worst victim of terrorism just because of a one-off attack.
You ask "where else is next?", well how about you look at how many there have been previously before crying that you're scared now. Welcome to reality, America, you're not invincible.

http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/terrorism/wrjp255i.html

Okay, so we are not the worst.

Iraq would probably be the worst, then the USA.
We actually are the worst victim of terrorism, as no other country has had any "huge,large" scale attacks such as 9/11.

The largest scale behind the USA is: 520 deaths which is: multiple car bombings in Al-Qataniyah and Al-Adnaniyah, Iraq

Yet America is the worlds most powerful country:

"
1 The United States of America, Look at http://www.lonympics.co.uk/
The world's biggest economy and army, the most powerful democracy, and the media centre of the world, plus in many ways the centre of world diplomacy and foreign relations.
"
http://www.lonympics.co.uk/worldsmostpowerfulcountries.htm
http://www.mapsofworld.com/world-top-ten/world-top-ten-powerful-countries-map.html


Much of U.S. military capability is involved in logistics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logistics) and transportation, which enable rapid buildup of forces as needed. The Air Force (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Air_Force) maintains a large fleet of C-5 Galaxy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C-5_Galaxy), C-17 Globemaster (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C-17_Globemaster), and C-130 Hercules (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C-130_Hercules) transportation aircraft with an equally large fleet of aerial refuelling (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerial_refuelling) tankers. The Marine Corps (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Marine_Corps) maintains Marine Expeditionary Units (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marine_Expeditionary_Unit) at sea with the Navy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Navy)'s Atlantic and Pacific Fleets. The Navy's fleet of 11 active aircraft carriers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aircraft_carrier), combined with a military doctrine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_doctrine) of power projection, enables a flexible response to potential threats. For these reasons, the United States military is near-universally considered the most powerful in the world.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_of_the_United_States


Yet 8 on these pages are terrorist attacks in America. America is not usually a target for terrorists, so we have become almost "invincible" with the best army in the world, defense system, yet on 9/11 that was changed by those men, which has improved our security even more.

How many there have been before, k.
http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/terrorism/wrjp255i.html

If you are in Europe I see, around.. what.. 2 terrorist attacks? Or 3.


Yet Europe gets alot of terrorist attacks
http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/terrorism/wrjp255i.html

I see.. 2 for the UK.
Italy: 1
Spain: 1
Ireland: 2

So that is 6. America is 8 attacks
Yet Europe is 25 countries where US is 1

http://www.jeroenwijering.com/upload/flags_european_union_countries.gif

No offense to you, but alot of your points are incorrect, as are probably mine.. I would have to research it more in depth.

[Lycan]

http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/terrorism/wrjp255i.html

Okay, so we are not the worst.

Iraq would probably be the worst, then the USA.
We actually are the worst victim of terrorism, as no other country has had any "huge,large" scale attacks such as 9/11.

The largest scale behind the USA is: 520 deaths which is: multiple car bombings in Al-Qataniyah and Al-Adnaniyah, Iraq

Yet America is the worlds most powerful country:

http://www.lonympics.co.uk/worldsmostpowerfulcountries.htm
http://www.mapsofworld.com/world-top-ten/world-top-ten-powerful-countries-map.html


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_of_the_United_States


Yet 8 on these pages are terrorist attacks in America. America is not usually a target for terrorists, so we have become almost "invincible" with the best army in the world, defense system, yet on 9/11 that was changed by those men, which has improved our security even more.

How many there have been before, k.
http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/terrorism/wrjp255i.html

If you are in Europe I see, around.. what.. 2 terrorist attacks? Or 3.

No offense to you, but alot of your points are incorrect, as are probably mine.. I would have to research it more in depth.

Europe Gets countless threats and attacks, running back your history will show some, but theese days attacks are getting foyled. From fighting over how thy died to which place has been hit the most.

I only have one more thing to ad to this


One Human life lost due to terroism is one too many

[Dentafrice,]

Europe Gets countless threats and attacks, running back your history will show some, but theese days attacks are getting foyled. From fighting over how thy died to which place has been hit the most.

I only have one more thing to ad to this


One Human life lost due to terroism is one too many
Agreed, one is too many. But as you said alot are getting foyled.

[FlyingJesus]

1 Aug 1980 bombing at railway station in Bologna, Italy
26 Sep 1980 suicide bombing in Munich, West Germany
20 Nov 2003 suicide bombings of British consulate and bank in Istanbul, Turkey
14-19 June 1996 hostage taking in Budennovsk, Russia, and two failed rescue attempts
16 Sep 1999 car bombing in Volgodonsk, Russia
15 Aug 1998 two car bombings in Omagh, Northern Ireland, UK
27 Dec 2002 two car bombings outside government house, Chechnya, Russia
26 Oct 2002 hostage taking and attempted rescue in theater in Moscow, Russia
7 Jul 2005 bombings of three subway trains and one bus in London, UK
1-3 Sep 2004 hostage taking at school in Beslan, Russia
11 Mar 2004 bombings of four trains in Madrid, Spain
19 Apr 1946 cyanide poisoning in prison near Nuremberg, Germany
21 Jan 1994 attack with chemical grenades on village of Ormancik, Turkey
13 Sep 1999 bombing of apartment building in Moscow, Russia
14-19 June 1996 hostage taking in Budennovsk, Russia, and two failed rescue attempts
16 Apr 1925 bombing of cathedral in Sophia, Bulgaria
26 Oct 2002 hostage taking and attempted rescue in theater in Moscow, Russia
4 Jan 1998 attacks at Had Chekala, Remka, and Ain Tarik, Algeria
29 Aug 1997 attacks at Sidi Moussa and Hais Rais, Algeria
21 Dec 1988 mid-air bombing of Pan Am flight over Lockerbie, Scotland
23 Jun 1985 mid-air bombing of Air India flight off Ireland

And that's just off that site, so dunno what you were - or weren't - looking at :S that site also only appears to do "most-{something}" attacks; an attack is still an attack with a small amount of victims.

I see entirely what you're saying about America being a big victim because of the scale of the attack, and I'm not trying to say that it was nothing. It's just that Europe and the Middle East in particular have had multiple attacks over however many decades, and when you think that the aim of terrorism isn't really to kill but to demoralise, I view a volley of small attacks as worse (not in casualties and deaths perhaps, but in damage to morale) than one big strike. Also my comment about invincibility was to do with the idea that America just isn't a place that gets attacked, rather than actual military force, and how the fact that it did get attacked worked as a terror attack not just in killing lots of people but by showing the American people that they aren't as safe as they thought.

[Lycan]

Agh i remember that school bombing in russia in 2004. such a sad thing to watch happen

[FlyingJesus]

Mmm hostage situations are probably the worst, because you can see the suffering right there and you know no-one can do anything about it. On that list I seem to have one hostage situation twice, but yeah that one they had two failed rescue attempts.. that must've been so hard on victims, their families and the people trying to save them.

[Lycan]

but it was children they had hostage... just too far its different from a random group (aka TwinTowers, who new who they were killing it was just people or the random bombings) but to Pick a school full of children... what could they be responsible for!

[HotelUser]

24 Canadians now gone due to these attacks.
I'm not sure if there were bombs or not on the tower, or a B757 did hit. Though if it did I would not be surprised to see the building live on because it is strong. An Airbus 380 or a 747 may of hurt it. But this 757 may not have done this.


Wern't as big on a death scale but on an Impact scale its changed the secuirty and view on Londons transport. which involved a police officer shooting an innocent man on a station.

Terroism is to bring terror to its target.

What do you think the end result has been

They were not as bad. Sure they played a big role in security though I believe the 11th was bigger because the deaths.


that and the whole 3,000 dead in one movement the whole human planes as missles , the massive money loss and the effects it has on airports today :)

Pilots carry guns.
Pilots carry guns.


The plane didnt hit the pentagon ...

It was ment to , But crashed into a field ... Then the other 2 crashed into the towers !

All i can say is Sorry to the families for there losses . . .

And hope terrorists will one day realise ... We havnt done nothing , If they dont like the goverment or the country ... MOVE BACK TO IRAQ or ISRALE !

The whitehouse plane crashed. The pentagon was hit. A local security camera shows this.


Ohhh. Lets all praise the americans who died. Fgs. What about iraq and afghanistan? Thousands of iraqis and afghans have been killed and maimed by americand and british forces and suicde bombers provoked by american and british forces

It's sad when anyone dies. But I'm sure they don't give much attention to when we've died.


There is no video evidence that a plane hit the pentagon. Also if a plane hit, they would find 2 holes - engine / wings of the plane.

They didnt.
Also the hole caused was smaller than the hole a plane would cause. There was a good video prooving it.
The goverment also took away all the CCTV videos from around the area.

I came to understand no hole?


it wasn't the government, you could at least provide evidence why you think so, there were no bombs in the towers, a missile did not hit the pentagon unless you class a hijacked plane as a missile.

Well in the video it looks like bombs go off though many things could cause this I suppose..

[siz]

What are binlardons? Also conspiracy theories are just that, theories until proof is found (and a video of people saying there were explosions at the top of the tower isn't proof).

People Died Lets Think About Them?

[TitaniumRubber]

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