Thread Ban

[nvrspk4]

Hey,

Just wanted to know what you guys think about this feature:

http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=158445&highlight=Thread+Ban

and whether you think it would be worthwhile installing it. I know that a lot of the time, peoples' threads are derailed by two members who weren't even involved originally, and have to be closed due to flaming. With this feature, we could ban members from threads, and this way the discussion could continue.

I've suggested it to MAD, and its still up to him whether the potential risk is worth the benefits, but I wanted to see what public opinion was ;) I've also included a poll.

EDIT: To clarify, due to concerns being raised, this would ONLY be usable by members of the Moderation team, whether normal moderators would have it is still up for debate, but normal members would not be able to ban each other from threads as it is highly abusable.

[xuxu]

yeah u should get it because, but in rs trading it would be kinda itchy

[le harry]

Sounds good, why not.

[xuxu]

but in runescape trading if some one knows u scam or something like that the person would ban that person

[Soil]

Yea, would be nice.

[Earthquake]

I think if people are banned on runescape they should be able to view a ban thread, And they can use that thread to ask why they was banned and try to get unbanned, Once you've replied you can use this plugin and ban them from that thread/forum? I don't know but this just seems a good idea while I'm writing this. So thats a yes from me.

Also it would stop alot of arguements because Moderators or Smods and so on can just remove the users who are starting to argue.

[xuxu]

lol true

[Alkaz]

Yah i think it a banned thread would be better than just a closed thread. Maybe people will pay more attention if their is a banned thread and not remake a thread like it. i.e. reputation threads if they was to get banned maybe people would pay more attention and not remake them instead of them just getting closed.

Their is my pennys worth.

[Sly]

I dunno it would be good when i wanted to ban people from my thread but then everyone would probably want to ban me from their threads and i'd have nowhere to post :(

[xuxu]

well they would hes kinda right

[Mr.OSH]

:) Personally I think this is a good idea as people complain that their threads get closed because people start arguments in them, if people could be stopped from viewing individual threads and therefore prevented from causing trouble discussions could continue without having to ruin everyones fun by closing/hiding threads. Nice idea nvrspk4!

[dannyisnotamazing]

It seems a good idea yeah, I'd welcome it but you'd probably get infracted for banning someone when they post, cos you don't like them or something. Don't make it a VIP only feature- lol. :(

[Catzsy]

Smacks of Big Brother to me and potentially could be open to abuse. What protection/appeal would a member have if 'gagged' by this? I do not think it could be used objectively as what constitutes flaming to one person is not to another and is therefore subjective. Whats wrong with the present rules - if somebody goes off-topic enough then they get a warning.

[GoldenMerc]

Nah i dont,It wont realy stop people from being rude and arragant it might even make it worse then they will get banned for doing something else,It hardly stops rule braking ether unless you ban them from every thread on Habbox which they will just make a new one,If someone's going to get banned they will do it one way or another.

[Aflux]

i think a 'forum ban' would be a better option.

[le harry]

Forum ban would be great, especially for spam..

[The Professor]

It depends if users could ban members from their thread or whether it's a moderation tool. If only mods could use it, I'm all for it. But if any member could use it, it will most probably be abused.

[dannyisnotamazing]

Oh, is it just for moderators? Aww :[ I wanted to use it, lol.

[Janet Snakehole]

I personally think its a good idea, add it!
[:

[Titch]

This would also make mods jobs alot easyer so good for mods.

i am all for it.

[xuxu]

should be for all members of hbx

[joshuar]

I use to be on a forum where that feature was used and it was a good addition (Habbo-Positive).

I think it would be good to add.

[-Xiangu-]

of course it should be mr nvr=]

[Galaxay1]

Depends would VIP be able to ban a member from their thread? If they could that would be good could be a VIP feature :P (aswell as mod etc)

[Tristan]

Could we ban Moderators & Super Moderators n that? No? :cry: Lol. :P

[benjamin]

Forum ban would be great, especially for spam..
no spam forum is fun.

it's the only place where you can post about whatever you like and have a general chat. you just gotta get past some of the ****.

[Corporal]

Few qustions
Is this a mod only tool?
If not can it be for VIP only?

[Elliott$]

Might get tedius.. but ye.. might save you from banning from the forum a bit more? :]

[Earthquake]

Might get tedius.. but ye.. might save you from banning from the forum a bit more? :]
Well imo this feature shouldn't even be thought of, The rules are created are NOT for breaking. Secruity on here is always having to improve because people like you and me always have to be imature, I think we should stop all this nonscence and act teenagers not ******* unviserity/primary children.

[Elliott$]

We try.. but we are who we are and sometimes we get carried away xD

[Ajax.]

I dunno it would be good when i wanted to ban people from my thread but then everyone would probably want to ban me from their threads and i'd have nowhere to post :(


Good point.

[cocaine]

ban members from posting? :S

sure, go for it.

[Galaxay1]

Matt, its like banning them from specific threads, say someone made a thread then someone started argueing, they're ban that specific member from the thread to prevent it from being closed (just looked like you didnt relise) :P

[Ealo]

sounds good tbh

[Neversoft]

Smacks of Big Brother to me and potentially could be open to abuse. What protection/appeal would a member have if 'gagged' by this? I do not think it could be used objectively as what constitutes flaming to one person is not to another and is therefore subjective. Whats wrong with the present rules - if somebody goes off-topic enough then they get a warning.

I agree with Rosie. There is nothing good out of this. If a user bans a person from their thread, the banned user would most likely create a different thread targeting the other user. There is nothing wrong with how it is at the moment.

Also there are quite a few good discussions posted here and lets be honest, no one can like everyone. If a user made a good topic that everyone would want to discuss, the user could just ban the people they didn't like just to be mean. So then the other users wouldn't be able to take part in the discussion, even though they've done nothing wrong.

People will ban people for no reason, then others will ban them because they've been banned, it would just create more arugments.

[today]

I agree with Rosie. There is nothing good out of this. If a user bans a person from their thread, the banned user would most likely create a different thread targeting the other user. There is nothing wrong with how it is at the moment.
I agree with Chris, if someone bans someone they'll more then likely make another thread saying "Y U BAN ME NOOB!" Or something alogn them lines.

The current system has actaully worked for the past how many years. Why bother changing it.

[Lilian]

Add it :) It would be a great help :)

[Galaxay1]

as said its a mods option

[today]

So? You get people maoning over infractions, and bans creating this mod just gives people more reason to moan...

[Soil]

So? You get people maoning over infractions, and bans creating this mod just gives people more reason to moan...

Thats one of the main disadvantages :(
This feature could be good but for super mods only.

[HotelUser]

Indeed this would be a nice feature, I say go for it!

[mat64]

Forum ban would be great, especially for spam..

That is kinda of in place at the moment, I believe cautioned members can't view and there by post in the spam forum. This makes more sense to me, As if we ever needed to ban a member from a particular forum then It must already be a pretty serious situation in the first place. Which would atleast require the user to be placed on a caution or ban.


Thats one of the main disadvantages :(
This feature could be good but for super mods only.

Although I believe this feature Is coded so that the option is only available for Super Moderators and Forum Administrators, I do wish I would see abit more faith in you for our Forum Moderators. I guess you have had a bad run in with one or a few of the Moderation staff, We all make mistakes dude. Especially when some of the Moderators are still on trial or have just finished their trial period in the weeks past.

As for this feature, I'm for it. Although I'm not sure it's entirely nessercery in some aspects for me. Just seems abit weird I guess, Maybe It will settle in abit more when and if it's implemented.

[Soil]

Although I believe this feature Is coded so that the option is only available for Super Moderators and Forum Administrators, I do wish I would see abit more faith in you for our Forum Moderators. I guess you have had a bad run in with one or a few of the Moderation staff, We all make mistakes dude. Especially when some of the Moderators are still on trial or have just finished their trial period in the weeks past.

As for this feature, I'm for it. Although I'm not sure it's entirely nessercery in some aspects for me. Just seems abit weird I guess, Maybe It will settle in abit more when and if it's implemented.

I am not saying that forum moderators shouldnt be allowed this because I hate them. Its for security. Also because super mods have way more experience so they would hopefully be able to judge who needs to be banned from a thread better.
Also, you might have trialists going around banning everyone.

[nvrspk4]

Sorry let me clarify. Users would not be able to ban people from their own thread. This would be a moderation tool, only usable by Super Mods and Moderators (perhaps only Super Mods).

Users would not be given this tool, so they can't use it to simply quell the opinion of another. (S)Mods would use it to curb rulebreaking.

[le harry]

Sorry let me clarify. Users would not be able to ban people from their own thread. This would be a moderation tool, only usable by Super Mods and Moderators (perhaps only Super Mods).

Users would not be given this tool, so they can't use it to simply quell the opinion of another. (S)Mods would use it to curb rulebreaking.

Oh in that case.. I wouldn't really like that installed, mainly because I know some Mods will I guess.. abuse it.

Not naming any..
DWC

[HotelUser]

Sorry let me clarify. Users would not be able to ban people from their own thread. This would be a moderation tool, only usable by Super Mods and Moderators (perhaps only Super Mods).

Users would not be given this tool, so they can't use it to simply quell the opinion of another. (S)Mods would use it to curb rulebreaking.

Nvr I was thinking about this again it may not work though. Some people can just post with another account and if it blocks IPs from threads too, use a proxy. It probably wouldn't happen often but users would most likely do this if they really wanted to post.

[mat64]

Nvr I was thinking about this again it may not work though. Some people can just post with another account and if it blocks IPs from threads too, use a proxy. It probably wouldn't happen often but users would most likely do this if they really wanted to post.

Well then they will face sanctions on those accounts I guess. As it will only be a small percentage of forum members who react in this way I assume this would be considered avoiding a moderators actions which as I'm sure you know is an infractionable offense and in this case both accounts in applicable would likely see further punishment, Much more severe that a thread ban I'm sure.