Racism rant.

[Breakfloor]

And i know your gunna say, it was always here so it walways will be. but its being passed down. stop passing it down and it will die off. i know theres atleast 1 racist on this forum. where did you get it from? your friends? your father? where did your friend get it from? your friend didnt think "oh imma call a black man a *****." it came from somewhere. and probably the goverment. create a problem, try and solve it and its gone too far? racism wasnt always here. it may have been here a few hundred years but not since the creation of man (religious or scientific, whatever your view.)

if your christian and racist, why do you think got created black and asian people. maybe one of them were here first? maybe he created them to create a multi cultural (spelling?) life. maybe he put them there to better your mind, to open it up to new things, different opinions on different things.

anyway. made it up as i went alot. just my thoughts.

[Scouse]

someone on the runescape forum made a racist comment & i reported it and all what happend is it got removed. he/she should be banned. you can get arrested for being racist, but on a forum you dont get banned for being racist? just an infraction. i think thats awful.

[Marsquake]

and this is why i hate PC. who gives a **** bout racism? it's never going to go. deal with it.

[You]

Nice post

[msb.]

someone on the runescape forum made a racist comment & i reported it and all what happend is it got removed. he/she should be banned. you can get arrested for being racist, but on a forum you dont get banned for being racist? just an infraction. i think thats awful.
I agree + rep, I 100% agree as racism should be perm ban on there account :l

[Breakfloor]

alot of people give a **** about racism. just because it probably will never go doesnt meen you should give up fighting it.

[Marsquake]

life is too short to take stuff like that too seriously, live life to the full and have fun! then when you're old and hate everyone, then moan about it.

[Soil]

Racism deserves a perm ban. Racists = People who are not going far in life.

[iMegz.]

I hate racism.

People go around saying words that mean nothing to them and cause pain to other people!

Why be racist?! Surely we all have the right to be treated equally and not to be judged by the color of our skin, our nationality or our religion or beliefs?!

[alexxxxx]

My Mum & Grandad are racist, but i am not. I think it depends where you live. I live in Nottingham, which is an incredibly diverse city. In my sister's class there are actually more foreign people than british people (i'm not talking about races here, i'm talking NATIONALITIES). I'm attracted to girls of different races, i'm in no way racist.

[Virgin Mary]

So killing someone is okay because the murderer was raised by abusive parents? I guess people should just deal with being murdered and get on with it.

[whiziz]

Jesus was originally a jew and was born in the middle east so dont forget he was obviously dark tanned

[cocaine]

Why be racist?! Surely we all have the right to be treated equally and not to be judged by the color of our skin, our nationality or our religion or beliefs?!

no one in society is equal.

there will always be a sort of 'pecking order', all this equality stuff actuallys means nothing

[Hoodstar]

Fighting a losing battle with this one.

Racism, unfortunatly, has been around for a hell'uva long time & I don't see it being stamped out in the near future.

The amount of people who share a racial view accross the globe, is large. It'd take ALOT to clear it from society.

People have tried & no-one has been able to clear it completely & I for one, don't see anyone or any group of people doing so, mainly because theres so much else going on.

[GommeInc]

Being racist isn't something passed down... It's a personal choice. A parent (or parents) could not be racist, but the offspring could be.

[Dan2nd]

What annoys me is every time someone mentions racisim everyone always starts saying 'My best friend is black' or 'this important person in history was jewish or asian' It just annoys me racisim goes both ways! Every day white people are discrimnated from jobs because big companies are scared their going to get fined if they don't hire enough people from other ethenic backgrounds. Sir Trevor Mcdonald made a racist remark about the white comedian Bernerd Manning live on TV and wasn't warned or punished in any way. Its fair enough if we are all treated equally but the fact is we're not, white people get discriminated awell!

[:G.M.T:]

Got to be careful in what I say here lol.

In this modern day racism is on a completely different level as to what it used to be. Me coming from a city which has a lot of different colours, races, and religions (Bradford for those people who didn't know) Nowadays if someone says something which is hardly even offensive it gets classsed as racism. People like that really annoy me. There was me thinking that this country was all about freedom of speach, yes there is a line and people know when they have crossed it. But I have often said something and others have replied back to me and said omg that's racist. It makes me think to myself go through the comment again in my head and I struggle to realise how it is racist.

I remember an arguement 2 of my uncles had between each other about this as one uncle is married to a black (American) woman. This was at the time of the big brother race row. People kicked up a fuss about people calling Shilpe, Shilpa poppadom. Whereas when Jermaine Jackson reffered to Jade Goody and Co. as "White trash" it just got swept under the carpet and nothing got done about it. Personally white trash is more racist than calling some Shilpa poppadom. The side one of my uncles was getting at is what is Politically Incorrect and what is actually Racism. They are both different things.

Me living in Bradford I see alot of the Asian community and the younger generation at school are like "Yo sappenin n......." that would be perfectly ok nothing racist about it. Whereas if a White Englishman was to say that it would be classed as serious racism.

This debate about what is classed as racism and what is not can go on for years. Personally for me it is a whole joke how it is now.

Hope I didn't offend anybody in this post I had no intention to this is just my OPINION on this matter which is what a forum is about sharing other peoples opinion :)

[FlyingJesus]

And i know your gunna say, it was always here so it walways will be. but its being passed down. stop passing it down and it will die off. i know theres atleast 1 racist on this forum. where did you get it from? your friends? your father? where did your friend get it from? your friend didnt think "oh imma call a black man a *****." it came from somewhere. and probably the goverment. create a problem, try and solve it and its gone too far? racism wasnt always here. it may have been here a few hundred years but not since the creation of man (religious or scientific, whatever your view.)

You should probably do some thinking before posting. Racism has been around since the dawn of man - tribes fought each other and irrationally hated each other just for worshipping a different form of sun god, for having different haircuts, for doing markings differently or for whatever reason they could think of. Also it's more likely to occur in people whose parents are racist, but it's not a certainty and any views affect you whatever you say.


if your christian and racist, why do you think got created black and asian people. maybe one of them were here first? maybe he created them to create a multi cultural (spelling?) life. maybe he put them there to better your mind, to open it up to new things, different opinions on different things.

In the Bible "race" is only defined by religion really. It might say something about dark faced people or similarly put words, but the discrimination in it is all to do with which gods are worshipped. Still, let's not make this a religious argument, they do get tedious quickly.


someone on the runescape forum made a racist comment & i reported it and all what happend is it got removed. he/she should be banned. you can get arrested for being racist, but on a forum you dont get banned for being racist? just an infraction. i think thats awful.

I entirely disagree. Racism is just the same as any other form of bullying. If someone decided to point out that someone else was black, and make fun of them for it, I don't think that it should be treated any differently to someone making fun of another for having long hair or just being ugly.


Racism deserves a perm ban. Racists = People who are not going far in life.

I'm pretty sure there have been/are plenty of successful racists.


Why be racist?! Surely we all have the right to be treated equally and not to be judged by the color of our skin, our nationality or our religion or beliefs?!

No such thing as equality, sorry to shatter the dream.

[Smiddy]

and this is why i hate PC. who gives a **** bout racism? it's never going to go. deal with it.
Have to agree with that

Being racist isn't something passed down... It's a personal choice. A parent (or parents) could not be racist, but the offspring could be.
And agree with that.

I am a racist, by the way. But know how to control myself. I didn't get my feelings for it from my parents, I got it from the media, from films and television. If you want to get rid of racism, get rid of it from the public viewing eye first; then you might stand a glimmer of hope so others don't continue.

[RedStratocas]

you can get arrested for being racist

no you can't. i dont know how it works in your country, but if you're arrested for being racist, that's oppression. like it or not, it's freedom of speech.

[bo$$]

no you can't. i dont know how it works in your country, but if you're arrested for being racist, that's oppression. like it or not, it's freedom of speech.

Can't get arrested for being a racist but you can get arrested for performing hate crimes. (obviously)

[RedStratocas]

Can't get arrested for being a racist but you can get arrested for performing hate crimes. (obviously)


hate crimes dont equal racism. there's no law that says "you cant b racist LOZL"

[bo$$]

hate crimes dont equal racism. there's no law that says "you cant b racist LOZL"

You'd have to be racist to perform the hate crimes to begin with...

[FlyingJesus]

Yes but what he's saying is that being racist is not a crime; only acts of racism are illegal.

[RedStratocas]

You'd have to be racist to perform the hate crimes to begin with...

you also have to have hands in order to punch someone. you can have murderous thoughts, but not murder people. it's not what you think, it's what you do. you can be racist and never speak a racist word.

[bo$$]

you also have to have hands in order to punch someone. you can have murderous thoughts, but not murder people. it's not what you think, it's what you do. you can be racist and never speak a racist word.

Which is exactly why I said you can't get arrested for being a racist? :S

[lAdmire]

All racists become racist from another racist. Either they've had a bad experience with a race or just have copied what they've seen someone else do. I think it's wrong & some people don't do enough to stop it. It can be stopped but we have to at least try. & like someone said something about Runescape, that was wrong. It's Habbo too. They just tell you click ignore but this isn't going to make the person learn from what they've done wrong. They don't even get a warning.

[English]

and this is why i hate PC. who gives a **** bout racism? it's never going to go. deal with it.
That's a ******** quote! What a stupid thing to say anyway! Terrorism is "never going to go away" so why just say "deal with it" then? Terrorism isn't gonna just stop, and I don't think we should ignore that! I just find most racists are bloody hypocritical, whether it be the extreme racists who support football teams with black players & applaud their players, or whether they make derogitory comments to, the race they hate, yet wear clothing/eat food which was probably manufactured by a person of that ethnicity. I must laugh at racist people who are homosexuals aswell, that's a joke and a half!!

Have to agree with that

And agree with that.

I am a racist, by the way. But know how to control myself. I didn't get my feelings for it from my parents, I got it from the media, from films and television. If you want to get rid of racism, get rid of it from the public viewing eye first; then you might stand a glimmer of hope so others don't continue.
Yeah I know the media plays a part on your opinion Smiddy. I just don't see how you can be racist and listen to music that comes from a person of ethnicity that you're racist about. Or anything like that. It totally contradicts the point of racism.

[Virgin Mary]

The kind of racism I'm talking about is people who kill someone else because they're a different race or just hate an entire race, e.g. the KKK. In a lot of cases I think racism is used because it's an easy insult, not because they literally believe that race to be inferior or the work of some anti-God.

[FlyingJesus]

Racism doesn't have to be extreme to be racism, hence how you could listen to black music and still be a racist - racism is simply a preference of one race over another, not even in regard to anything specifically.

[-:Undertaker:-]

To be honest, I don't think racism exists anymore and there are no true racists left out there. My opinion is that we should stop all immagration from Africa and countrys like that unless they have good degrees, same with all countrys. I also think the west is more civilised - Am I racist?

Someone please reply.

[Dajus]

Racism is inherrent through generations of people.
Why is racist abuse any worse than gender abuse?
Why is racist abuse any worse than insulting a persons mother?
Why is racist abuse any worse than insulting someones social group?
Why is racist abuse any worse than any form of abuse.

If your going to ban racist's, ban everyone doing that sort of thing, :S

[FlyingJesus]

To be honest, I don't think racism exists anymore and there are no true racists left out there. My opinion is that we should stop all immagration from Africa and countrys like that unless they have good degrees, same with all countrys. I also think the west is more civilised - Am I racist?

Someone please reply.

No because you're saying our countries are more advanced, not that we (as white people) are inherently just better than people of other colours.


Racism is inherrent through generations of people.
Why is racist abuse any worse than gender abuse?
Why is racist abuse any worse than insulting a persons mother?
Why is racist abuse any worse than insulting someones social group?
Why is racist abuse any worse than any form of abuse.

If your going to ban racist's, ban everyone doing that sort of thing, :S

I agree entirely, the whole situation is so out of hand.

[Smiddy]

Yeah I know the media plays a part on your opinion Smiddy. I just don't see how you can be racist and listen to music that comes from a person of ethnicity that you're racist about. Or anything like that. It totally contradicts the point of racism.
Plays a part on everyone's opinion, not just mine.
Like our friend is doing about Terrorism in film (for Media Studies), there is hardly any "typical" terrorists (perceived by the newspaper / Tv as being people from west/south Asia).
Thing is, I don't see the huge fuss about it, I do it jokingly yet it's taken seriously. I respect people of different ethnicities, but at the same time, you have to be able to make a joke about something :S The same goes for taking the mick out of yourself or your friends. It's just as bad as jokes about people with ginger hair - they can't help it. It's just the same as jokes of disabled people (Stephen Hawkins, despite being as smart as he is, more people will probably know of him, not what he's done, so take the mick) - they can't help it either.

Racism is inherrent through generations of people.
Why is racist abuse any worse than gender abuse?
Why is racist abuse any worse than insulting a persons mother?
Why is racist abuse any worse than insulting someones social group?
Why is racist abuse any worse than any form of abuse.

If your going to ban racist's, ban everyone doing that sort of thing, :S
I agree with this post too.. Why's Racism such a big part compared to other area's?

[whiziz]

To be honest, I don't think racism exists anymore and there are no true racists left out there. My opinion is that we should stop all immagration from Africa and countrys like that unless they have good degrees, same with all countrys. I also think the west is more civilised - Am I racist?

Someone please reply.Of course racism still exsists look at KKK

[Xarea]

Looking at the thread-starters location, seeing he is from Watford, he probably isn't white.

[:G.M.T:]

To be honest, I don't think racism exists anymore and there are no true racists left out there. My opinion is that we should stop all immagration from Africa and countrys like that unless they have good degrees, same with all countrys. I also think the west is more civilised - Am I racist?

Someone please reply.

That's what I and many of my family have said for a fair few years now.

No it doesn't make you a racist.

[Firehorse]

Years ago when i was in primary school they started telling us in assembly what racist was and blah blah blah. I mean.. why would a 9 year old give a toss? They don't know what rascism is so why teach it to them? They may make a remark about someones colour but things like that are better thought of as a joke and eventually forgotten. That way people wouldn't feel bad about themselves trying to not be rascist and everyone would think more positively about who they were born to be.

Just my thoughts as i went along. no long speech blah blah blah


Also::: If people hadn't started imigrating to other countries and so on so forth there would be no such thing as rascism. People who live in smaller populated areas with no other races living there are less racist than people living with 100's of other cultures.

(I live in Brent, the most multi-cultural place in the world)

[Grindie]

my psychology teacher told me this theory the other day that we're all racist because we form an opinion on them just by looking at them and it's impossible not to. Whether we say what we think or not, apparently we form opinions based on the race of the person e.g. an irish person walks along.. their favourite colour must be green etc etc

[Dajus]

my psychology teacher told me this theory the other day that we're all racist because we form an opinion on them just by looking at them and it's impossible not to. Whether we say what we think or not, apparently we form opinions based on the race of the person e.g. an irish person walks along.. their favourite colour must be green etc etc


That's called: Racism. Keep up, :eusa_clap

[Firehorse]

Well, with that theory we're racist to people even the same as us. I would say you could think someone was stupid without having to think about their colour. We form an opinion on anything, the more modern term of racist is basically just showing that your racist to other people. But thats an idea. The media is what effects us mostly to be racist. If you were living as a cave man and had never seen an african person before you would probably assume they were an alien. The media puts a bad image on foriegners from other countries all the time. I went to live in Germany for 6 months 2 years ago when I was in year 7 and always on the news there was stuff about happening in england and how stupid we were. They even go as far as to show the avarage iq levels of the british population to show how clever they were compared to us.

It just goes to show it's only because we know that other races exist. If you are a beliver then God never invented TV or the internet. S/he didn't invent newspapers either so s/he obviously didn't intended us to be flying from country to country in a matter of hours.

[alexxxxx]

no you can't. i dont know how it works in your country, but if you're arrested for being racist, that's oppression. like it or not, it's freedom of speech.

If you racialy abuse someone by shouting at them 'YOU *Text Removed* *****' or 'YOU WHITE TURD' then that is illegal. A public official saying 'Black people are less hard working than white people' is probably illegal too.

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[Grindie]

That's called: Racism. Keep up, :eusa_clap

looooo, I know what we're on about here, just merely stating a theory of evolutional nurture ;)

[-:Undertaker:-]

No because you're saying our countries are more advanced, not that we (as white people) are inherently just better than people of other colours.



I agree entirely, the whole situation is so out of hand.

Well we are cleverer and more civilised in GENERAL


Of course racism still exsists look at KKK

KlKl Krew :P


That's what I and many of my family have said for a fair few years now.

No it doesn't make you a racist.

Thank you, i'm very suprised some politically correct moron hasn't said I am.

[Virgin Mary]

I think people are inherently subconsciously racist anyway. Humans instinctively don't like what they don't understand or what's different. You judge someone as soon as you look at them, the big thing is whether you act on your judgement or not. Though I do think it ironic to proclaim ourselves as advanced if people are still acting like cavemen.

[Spectate]

Anybody studying/studied black civil rights in America in the 20th century? That's enough to make you intolerant towards any racism. A few years ago I'd sort of accept racism. I'd disagree with it, but accept it nonetheless. Now I don't have any time for it. It's complete ignorance to be honest, and it has to be stamped out through lack of toleration. I know some pensioners are racist because they're "not used to it" (it being multiculturalism), and they believe that immigration has led to the worsening of society, but you just can't tar everyone with the same brush.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Immigration has led to a worse society.

[Xarea]

Immigration has led to a worse society.

I agree. Immigration ruined this country, imo.

[Spectate]

Immigration has led to a worse society.

Different doesn't mean worse. Imagine this.

You live in an extremely poor country where you're a devoted husband and a father of two (for example). Lack of work/pay means your family is drinking contaminated water and going without sufficient food. You make the sacrifice of leaving your family to go to a foreign country indefinitely, simply to allow them to live a semi-normal life. You arrive in this country, get round the language barrier and manage to get yourself a job. You get up in the morning, go to work, get home, go to bed, and repeat this process pretty much every day of the week. You then get old toffs looking at you like your dog dirt and mindless drunks telling you to "go home".

Just think about that instead of presuming that everyone who enters this country does so illegally and procedes to detinate a bomb in the middle of a city.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Different doesn't mean worse. Imagine this.

You live in an extremely poor country where you're a devoted husband and a father of two (for example). Lack of work/pay means your family is drinking contaminated water and going without sufficient food. You make the sacrifice of leaving your family to go to a foreign country indefinitely, simply to allow them to live a semi-normal life. You arrive in this country, get round the language barrier and manage to get yourself a job. You get up in the morning, go to work, get home, go to bed, and repeat this process pretty much every day of the week. You then get old toffs looking at you like your dog dirt and mindless drunks telling you to "go home".

That is the working immigrants, the majority don't work and just sponge off us, so overall we'd be better off if there was never any immigration.


Just think about that instead of presuming that everyone who enters this country does so illegally and procedes to detinate a bomb in the middle of a city.

Did I say anything about bombs?

[Xarea]

Different doesn't mean worse. Imagine this.

You live in an extremely poor country where you're a devoted husband and a father of two (for example). Lack of work/pay means your family is drinking contaminated water and going without sufficient food. You make the sacrifice of leaving your family to go to a foreign country indefinitely, simply to allow them to live a semi-normal life. You arrive in this country, get round the language barrier and manage to get yourself a job. You get up in the morning, go to work, get home, go to bed, and repeat this process pretty much every day of the week. You then get old toffs looking at you like your dog dirt and mindless drunks telling you to "go home".

Just think about that instead of presuming that everyone who enters this country does so illegally and procedes to detinate a bomb in the middle of a city.

Yeah, but there is more then one country then England to go to. :rolleyes:

[Spectate]

That is the working immigrants, the majority don't work and just sponge off us, so overall we'd be better off if there was never any immigration.


"The majority"? On which statistics do you base that claim? You're being rather vague. I presume by "sponge off us" you mean through benefits? I can't see what else you'd mean, unless you're protesting against their right to use public services as a result of paying taxes? Presuming you mean benefits, there are systems in place you know. I doubt that "the majority" of immigrants would come to the country with the knowledge of exactly how to deceive the government and trick the benefits system, nor that they'd have any intention of doing so.


Did I say anything about bombs?

Not in so many words. I just inferred.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Yeah, but there is more then one country then England to go to. :rolleyes:

Exactly, notice how they travel right across all of Europe to get to this little island? let's think what Britain does that the others don't.. mm.. oh yeah, hand out benefits to anyone and give them houses, mobiles, cars and sky TV - Immigration is one of the reasons I will be leaving this country when i'm older.


"The majority"? On which statistics do you base that claim? You're being rather vague. I presume by "sponge off us" you mean through benefits? I can't see what else you'd mean, unless you're protesting against their right to use public services as a result of paying taxes? Presuming you mean benefits, there are systems in place you know. I doubt that "the majority" of immigrants would come to the country with the knowledge of exactly how to deceive the government and trick the benefits system, nor that they'd have any intention of doing so.



Not in so many words. I just inferred.

That made me laugh, they know exactly why to come here and you know why? it's because we're soft and we give them benefits, notice how they don't go to France? Austrialia? America? Germany? Spain?, just the UK.

You act as if they are all innocent people who just happen to travel right across France and all of Europe just to get here, they know.

There are systems in place, well to an extent, Labours uncontrolled immigration allows illegal immigrants to get in so very easily, and just grants anyone asylum. It should be like Austrialia, you have to be over 45 years of age, have a job they need and have money.

[[DC]eption]

I dont see why racism is worse than any other sort of discrimation?

[Spectate]

Exactly, notice how they travel right across all of Europe to get to this little island? let's think what Britain does that the others don't.. mm.. oh yeah, hand out benefits to anyone and give them houses, mobiles, cars and sky TV - Immigration is one of the reasons I will be leaving this country when i'm older.



That made me laugh, they know exactly why to come here and you know why? it's because we're soft and we give them benefits, notice how they don't go to France? Austrialia? America? Germany? Spain?, just the UK.

You act as if they are all innocent people who just happen to travel right across France and all of Europe just to get here, they know.

There are systems in place, well to an extent, Labours uncontrolled immigration allows illegal immigrants to get in so very easily, and just grants anyone asylum. It should be like Austrialia, you have to be over 45 years of age, have a job they need and have money.

Aye, let's adopt an immigration policy like Australia's. Let immigrants rot in boats off shore while being the biggest hypocrits in the world, considering the fact that Australia's history essentially began with mass immigration.

No, I'm not trying to claim that they're all innocent. Maybe consider that they come here because they can speak English? Pretty sure more immigrants speak English than German or Spanish. All I'm saying is that many immigrants don't come into the country wanting to sponge off the taxpayer and cause trouble, and that many do want to work to improve their lives. Doesn't that fit in with the Conservative principle of getting off your backside and doing something to better your position. Or doesn't that apply to people from other countries?

[Firehorse]

The reason they immigrate to the UK and mainly cities like London is because they hear about it where they live and we keep going to film in places like that. They come to England because they have learnt english instead of some other language like French or Spanish. Why is it the UK has around the same population as france and yet they have double the amount of land? How come a lot of the immigrants living here complain about the benifits they are getting? Because they want to live like people who have a good reputation and high paying jobs without working. Once they are here they get what they came for and see everyone else has more so they just get greedy. If their countries had done well for themselves in the past they wouldn't be flying around the world looking for a better place to live. There are TV shows about moving house and finding a place to live somewhere else other than Britain. Many parts of spain now have a large population of british people living there. We no longer like our country. In my class I'm one of only about 10 that were born in Britain and probably the only one with British blood.

[Spectate]

The reason they immigrate to the UK and mainly cities like London is because they hear about it where they live and we keep going to film in places like that. They come to England because they have learnt english instead of some other language like French or Spanish. Why is it the UK has around the same population as france and yet they have double the amount of land? How come a lot of the immigrants living here complain about the benifits they are getting? Because they want to live like people who have a good reputation and high paying jobs without working. Once they are here they get what they came for and see everyone else has more so they just get greedy. If their countries had done well for themselves in the past they wouldn't be flying around the world looking for a better place to live. There are TV shows about moving house and finding a place to live somewhere else other than Britain. Many parts of spain now have a large population of british people living there. We no longer like our country. In my class I'm one of only about 10 that were born in Britain and probably the only one with British blood.

British blood? Like that exists. You say those countries should have "done well for themselves". Many of the same countries were colonised by Britain, exploited for slavery and cheap goods and therefore crippled by debt. So we have nothing to do with the situation that they're in?

[Zuar]

Hmm, I would class my self of bit of a racist, as i think the government has made me the way I am. I think the fact of imigration has played a big role in the way people think, and maybe if there wasn't as many imigrants and illegal people coming in it wouldn't be as bad. - Just a thought.

AU is the best for imigration, as you have to have a certain amount of money before you go and have to be in a trade/good profession.

Plus we give out to many benefits.

[Breakfloor]

people talk about immigration like it should stop. it should, but we need other colored people in england apart from white. you want to stop immigration? 1. go back in time and stop the slave trade. 2. make other countrys more wealthy. 3. give homeless people in other countrys somewhere to sleep. THERE YOU GO! no more immigration on the BBC the other night, most immigrants are actually white polish. so hmm, dont blame it on africans and south asian people.

[Virgin Mary]

People come to England because it's the best country in the world, duh. Australia is just some convict descendents whose habbo hotel has a low population.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Aye, let's adopt an immigration policy like Australia's. Let immigrants rot in boats off shore while being the biggest hypocrits in the world, considering the fact that Australia's history essentially began with mass immigration.

No, I'm not trying to claim that they're all innocent. Maybe consider that they come here because they can speak English? Pretty sure more immigrants speak English than German or Spanish. All I'm saying is that many immigrants don't come into the country wanting to sponge off the taxpayer and cause trouble, and that many do want to work to improve their lives. Doesn't that fit in with the Conservative principle of getting off your backside and doing something to better your position. Or doesn't that apply to people from other countries?

They don't rot in boats, do you know what happens in Austrialia?, if immigrants manage the hard task of sneaking in Austrialia, border control will turn them away or send them back.

I welcome people who will work, a lot of Poles work very hard but others just take drugs and commit crimes and we still keep them here.


The reason they immigrate to the UK and mainly cities like London is because they hear about it where they live and we keep going to film in places like that. They come to England because they have learnt english instead of some other language like French or Spanish. Why is it the UK has around the same population as france and yet they have double the amount of land? How come a lot of the immigrants living here complain about the benifits they are getting? Because they want to live like people who have a good reputation and high paying jobs without working. Once they are here they get what they came for and see everyone else has more so they just get greedy. If their countries had done well for themselves in the past they wouldn't be flying around the world looking for a better place to live. There are TV shows about moving house and finding a place to live somewhere else other than Britain. Many parts of spain now have a large population of british people living there. We no longer like our country. In my class I'm one of only about 10 that were born in Britain and probably the only one with British blood.

They don't come here because they can speak our language :rolleyes: Most come here for benefits.

Spain don't mind because the majority of British people work, so they will accept you.

What's happening to our country is that all the clever people with money are moving, and we're letting all these immigrants in, some can't even speak english.


British blood? Like that exists. You say those countries should have "done well for themselves". Many of the same countries were colonised by Britain, exploited for slavery and cheap goods and therefore crippled by debt. So we have nothing to do with the situation that they're in?

If we didn't colonise them, Zimbarbwe wouldn't of been the bread basket of Africa - Look what's happend to that since we let them govern themselves. South Africa was also built up by us, and since we left AIDS & HIV has spread rapidly and crime is shooting through the roof.


people talk about immigration like it should stop. it should, but we need other colored people in england apart from white. you want to stop immigration? 1. go back in time and stop the slave trade. 2. make other countrys more wealthy. 3. give homeless people in other countrys somewhere to sleep. THERE YOU GO! no more immigration on the BBC the other night, most immigrants are actually white polish. so hmm, dont blame it on africans and south asian people.

That's like Hitler what you have just said, you have said we need more coloured people, that's like saying we need less jewish people..

Why should we give them beds to sleep in?, they have survived thousands of years without this and if they want our help so much, why did they kick us out after we built their countrys up?

[RedStratocas]

That's like Hitler what you have just said, you have said we need more coloured people, that's like saying we need less jewish people..

i dont think so. i dont agree with him, but you kinda took what he said out of context.

[Examplify]

i'm racist.

[camera]

wow ure one angry kid/teen/whatever. no matter how hard u try, racism aint gonna go away. this is the life.

[Eamonn]

mmk racism is going to happen in the world regardless
everyday should be negro day (Y)

[FlyingJesus]

On the subject of immigration, I'm not going to directly reference anyone in this thread at the moment because I can't be bothered and I'm going to be pretty general anyway instead of addressing just some people.

Calling for a halt or a lessening in immigration is not the same thing as racism. Yes, I'm fully aware that many immigrants are coming here from crap countries because they want the opportunity to do well, and this country hands out such opportunities. However, thinking about it logically, you say that they lead poor lives and so we should help them - what about the people already in the country leading poor quality lives? The homeless of Britain are, in my opinion, a much greater problem than the oppressed or starving of the Third World. Not because they're here and I'm racist, but for the following of reasons:

I personally don't care if some family in Africa is dying through dehydration or whatever, simply because that's the sort of person I am. However, what I can do is account for that by saying that if you are the sort who wants England to help them, we would surely be better equipped and so better able to help if we were more stable ourselves. At the moment we give little amounts that we deem expendable, yet if we used those expendable amounts to help the homeless in our own country we would be able to give much more money and attention overseas.
We need to sort ourselves out before we try being world heroes.

[Smiddy]

In reply to you & your reputation comment, Sway, did I say I was a full blown racist at any time? Did I say "oh I go around to everybody of a different race and tell them to get the hell out of our country!!"
No, I didn't.

I didn't specify how I'm racist, and you'll say it won't make it any better, but that's your problem to accept, not mine.

Friends, as a group, make jokes about certain subjects, because of 1 area which me and my friends do make jokes among each other, that is what classes me as a racist. We don't do it out of seriousness, we do it to make each other laugh.

Are you perfect, Sway? Do you accept all homosexuals, all ethnicities, all ages, all disabilities and can say to them with ease that you respect them?

Until you're perfect, you can shove any judgment you've made of me right up there. Because you're no better than me, I'm no better than you.

In answer to your reputation comment, No, I wouldn't say or do anything if a random black (quoted) person walked down the street. Does this make me a coward? No, because I do actually respect black people. I respect they are usually better physical specimens than traditional white people, I respect they might have a better mind on them than myself, I respect they have as much right to be in the same country as me.
I take the mick out of myself too, but I still have self-respect. I imagine you take the mick out of something/one, but deep down inside you have respect for them.

So, there's your answer. And I won't coward away and say it in a revenge rep.

[Breakfloor]

serious or not, that does not justify the fact that you are racist.

and what i was saying is that evrybodys saying we dont want immagrints but we do need the legal working kind. it opens kids minds. it makes areas that have been all one race (e.g. asian) more multicultural. people who are used to say, all white need these people to open thigns up. i dont want immagrints as much as you dont. but the legal kind who come here to earn a living and the right to a good life im fine with. what we dont need is the korean, polish and the people who buy a flat, get say 12 illegal immagrints living in it and get them working/stealing/doing drugs.

one country cannot be one or two races. we need others as much as we need what we had.

(if any of that makes sence?)

[le harry]

hiya
racism is not cool

[Breakfloor]

hiyazzzzzzzz

[manga21]

serious or not, that does not justify the fact that you are racist.

and what i was saying is that evrybodys saying we dont want immagrints but we do need the legal working kind. it opens kids minds. it makes areas that have been all one race (e.g. asian) more multicultural. people who are used to say, all white need these people to open thigns up. i dont want immagrints as much as you dont. but the legal kind who come here to earn a living and the right to a good life im fine with. what we dont need is the korean, polish and the people who buy a flat, get say 12 illegal immagrints living in it and get them working/stealing/doing drugs.

one country cannot be one or two races. we need others as much as we need what we had.

(if any of that makes sence?)

On the subject of it, Britain is to soft. Yano, if they want to work and be a good citizen In society , great. But when they come and sponge off it bugs the hell out of me, my nanna said that when she went to go get her pension, A immagrint came out with my cash then her my nanna who has worked all her life it isnt really fair. But to be honest , benefits are stupid why the hell should hard working people pay for scum who cant be arsed to go to work and jsut sit and do drugs and **** up society more get them ? Yano Britain is just stupid.

[Azul]

I don't know if i'm racist to be perfectly honest, you may think that's a stupid thing to say but hear me out.

I have a black uncle who I love very much. He's done alot for me, I was made redundant a couple of months ago and I have struggled to hold down any sort of job recently and he's helped me out with some work.

But I hate the idea of immigrants sponging from this country, it really riles me. To make matters worse my best friend got muged on Saturday night at knife point, by you guessed it a gang of black kids.

I hate hearing racist remarks, but in some situations (like the ones above) I use them myself. I know this doesn't add much to the debate but I thought i'd just share what I am as a person when it comes to racism.

[Cresendo]

To be honest, there has been alot of hate crimes this year.

[Notex]

To be honest racism is always going to exist but matters would improve if people would actually assimilate and take on the new countrys customs.. then they wouldnt be at as greater risk of being victimised.

[Hxf Santa]

it's putting people down, yes.
but i don't think it should be everywhere eg

he was racist to me etc.
and if you're racist to another race, and say they go you white mf?
then they can't really have anything done to them, and we can?

totally unfair in my eyes.

[Notex]

Exactly.. thats why i cant stand all the PC rubbish people go on about.

[Breakfloor]

whoever -repped me, i didnt say they can come in and we let them do our work.

what i said WAS if they come in, scrounging off income then, they can **** off. but if they stay and want to earn a true living, fine. i have no problem.