Supers and 'Never to be released rares'

[fitcovboy]

I am sick of Sulake profit mongering instead of considering its users. I hope Chris reads this. The definition of ‘never’: not ever; at no time. Where do Sulake fail to see this? They have furni they say will ‘never’ be released and then remove it from the list for the possible release. A lot of kids live by habbo and use money to buy rares to build up and then buy supers, and then Sulake go and release them. This is just wrong, releasing the dj decks, what is that all about? Has Sulake not got enough new rares to release? How long is it going to be before we read the headlines that a 12 year old has committed suicide over losing everything on habbo? I think competition prizes should stay as prizes and not be released like the red smoke, I sold mine when there were only two for 18 T. Then it gets released, so the poor people that owned the two that came onto the hotel by way of a competition lose a lot of pixels, if Sulake are going to release such rares they should have a page stating how many are on the hotel and the likelihood of future release. However they will not do this because it will make the competitions less appealing and so they will not make as much, as people will not trade for the items for high prices, there are way too many re-colours on the hotel anyway. Sulake are playing with people’s lives and need to consider the users a lot more. Ione gave out gifts that were stated ‘never to be released’ and yet again there is speculation that they will be. Sulake have killed the supers game, in it’s bid to profit monger. Sulake bring out original rares and stop this farse, or else make it clear from day one that these rares will be in the catalogue in the future, that way no one will pay a high price for them. The supers where there is only a handful are already too easy to manipulate the values, as certain people have proved. Habbo is supposed to be a happy place to be and not leave kids distressed because they invested in a lot of supers and then it gets released. It may be wrong for kids to get so involved in a website, but that is Sulakes aim to get them addicted, but then to smash their dreams is just plain wrong, no one wants to trade for supers because of the way the supers are being handled on habbo. The way staff handled the unreleased rares was despicable, logging into Andy’s (Evolution) account and removing items from him and changing the password was just pure wrong, and whether or not he was a friend of Justine’s (Callie) and maybe got a lot of rares from her still does not justify it. It was Sulakes security breach that allowed the account to become compromised with the result of rares that should not have been on the hotel becoming available. They should have eaten humble pie and reimbursed the users that bought them regardless! I did after long debates get my furni back, however others were not so lucky, maybe because I am an adult and they are kids, it just shows another side to Sulake. Taking their frustrations out on kids, because their security got compromised, and to them it is only pixels, and worthless, so where’s the fuss over reimbursing users?

[jesus]

I hope Chris reads this.who the hells chris? if you mean lost_witness, stop referring to him as if hes your best mate

[fitcovboy]

who the hells chris? if you mean lost_witness, stop referring to him as if hes your best mate

I am not referring to him as my 'best mate' he is no friend of mine! And yes i do mean Lost_Witness!

Where did i mention 'best mate' or even indicate such a thing?

[NMULLEN]

It's a business so they released whatever they think will make them money. If it's a super rare more people will buy it because they think it will be worth more when it is out of the catologue. I seriously don't care what sulake do with rares.

[jesus]

I am not referring to him as my 'best mate' he is no friend of mine! And yes i do mean Lost_Witness!

Where did i mention 'best mate' or even indicate such a thing?
by referring to him as 'chris' :S

[fitcovboy]

It's a business so they released whatever they think will make them money. If it's a super rare more people will buy it because they think it will be worth more when it is out of the catologue. I seriously don't care what sulake do with rares.

I also do not care, and obviously they do not either, which is my point! Like i said, profit mongering and not considering the users!


by referring to him as 'chris' :S

So his name is not Chris? Just because i refer to peoples real names instead of user names does not imply i regard them as 'mates'.

[NMULLEN]

Why you moaning then?

[BlueTango]

As said above, its a buisness. I expect that the company manipulates rares - They'll look for super rares in high demand and release them, as it simply makes them alot more money. I expect thats one of the only reasons there are super-rares. So they can use them as a strategy to release when they feel they're in high demand so they make money.

I definetly do not agree with the way sulake handle the releasing of rares but then again good on them for making money. So, its a 2-way story really.

[jesus]

I also do not care, and obviously they do not either, which is my point! Like i said, profit mongering and not considering the users!



So his name is not Chris? Just because i refer to peoples real names instead of user names does not imply i regard them as 'mates'.first name terms = suckup :)

[fitcovboy]

Why you moaning then?

I have opened a topical thread, open for discussion, is that not what this forum is for? I can have opinions about such topics, as i said i do not care, that does not meant that i do not feel sorry towards other users that take their pixels seriously and who actually waste a lot of money on Habbo.


As said above, its a buisness. I expect that the company manipulates rares - They'll look for super rares in high demand and release them, as it simply makes them alot more money. I expect thats one of the only reasons there are super-rares. So they can use them as a strategy to release when they feel they're in high demand so they make money.

I definetly do not agree with the way sulake handle the releasing of rares but then again good on them for making money. So, its a 2-way story really.

They can release a new rare and make as much, especially if it a new rare and not a re-colour, and a useful attractive one.

first name terms = suckup :)

Lmao .... perhaps read threads where the topic of the unreleased rares that involved Emma (Redtiz) and then say i'm a suck up! I in no way am a staff suck up mate so get your facts right! I have had many dealings with staff, and none involved sucking up!

[buttons]

why would "chris" be reading this
no-one cares about gay lil pixels go send that to him :|

[fitcovboy]

why would "chris" be reading this
no-one cares about gay lil pixels go send that to him :|

Because Sulake staff do read these forums! And if i wanted to email him i would! This is a topic of discussion about Sulake in general and the way in which it is managed, a discussion between habbo users.

[buttons]

Because Sulake staff do read these forums! And if i wanted to email him i would! This is a topic of discussion about Sulake in general and the way in which it is managed, a discussion between habbo users.
dnt cri about.

[fitcovboy]

dnt cri about.

Does it look like i'm crying? *Message Removed*

Edited by Favourtism (Forum Moderator): Please don't be rude.

[BlueTango]

Just leave him alone guys.

Its a thread fgs. Not a boxing ring.

Half the hotel calls Lostie: Chris.

I can't see how it affects you all that he wants a discussion about Sulake manipulating the position of super rares.

If you dont have any input to the thread, dont make a post.

[fitcovboy]

Just leave him alone guys.

Its a thread fgs. Not a boxing ring.

Half the hotel calls Lostie: Chris.

I can't see how it affects you all that he wants a discussion about Sulake manipulating the position of super rares.

If you dont have any input to the thread, dont make a post.

Ahhh at last someone with intelligence replying. + Rep.

[Slowpoke]

where is the page that says what will and won't be released?

i completely agree with you and eventually the profit margin is going to drop as so many people are leaving over the super releases. they need to wake up and see this!

[fitcovboy]

where is the page that says what will and won't be released?

i completely agree with you and eventually the profit margin is going to drop as so many people are leaving over the super releases. they need to wake up and see this!

It is on the habbo site somewhere that states the rares that will never be released. Some items have now been removed from the list, but obviously habbo is still down atm so i can get the exact URL.

[Slowpoke]

anyone able to post the link now habbo is back up? :)

[Ichigo]

I'm looking now.

So far I've found this;


Catalogue Rares are in the Catalogue for approximately two weeks. Habbo will always notify users when a rare is going to be released, and when it is going to be removed from the Catalogue.

Yeah, the gothic fountain was released for 'a short period of time' according to them.

Looking for the list now.

[Favourtism]

I'm looking now.

So far I've found this;



Yeah, the gothic fountain was released for 'a short period of time' according to them.

Looking for the list now.
It was released for a short time compared to the 2weeks it says on Habbo as average.

[Ichigo]

The point was that they're saying they'll tell us when it's released and when it's removed. 'A short period of time' does not constitute a time or date for removal.

[Kardan]

My thoughts :)

I am sick of Sulake profit mongering instead of considering its users. I hope Chris reads this. The definition of ‘never’: not ever; at no time. Where do Sulake fail to see this? They have furni they say will ‘never’ be released and then remove it from the list for the possible release.

If you're referring to Ione's gifts and where the sentence 'These will never be released' has been removed from the FAQ. This was about a year ago :)

A lot of kids live by habbo and use money to buy rares to build up and then buy supers, and then Sulake go and release them. This is just wrong, releasing the dj decks, what is that all about?

Remember, Habbo doesn't believe in a 'rare economy' they say that all rares are worth the same, pay what you want etc. So they're not going to be bothered by releasing supers.

Has Sulake not got enough new rares to release?

They have LOADS to release, I agree with you on this :)

How long is it going to be before we read the headlines that a 12 year old has committed suicide over losing everything on habbo?

I HIGHLY doubt that this will happen, it's a bit extreme don't you think?

I think competition prizes should stay as prizes and not be released like the red smoke, I sold mine when there were only two for 18 T. Then it gets released, so the poor people that owned the two that came onto the hotel by way of a competition lose a lot of pixels, if Sulake are going to release such rares they should have a page stating how many are on the hotel and the likelihood of future release.

They can't ahve a page of likelihood of future release, because they don't just go 'OH LET'S RELEASE THIS ONE!' They get told by HQ what to release, because it ties in with various themes. For example, some rares have never even be SEEN on ANY hotel, probably so it can be released worldwide for an event.

However they will not do this because it will make the competitions less appealing and so they will not make as much, as people will not trade for the items for high prices, there are way too many re-colours on the hotel anyway.

Jeez. Before V7 in 2005 people were moaning that they were NO rares. There was a period for 9 MONTHS where NOTHING was released, WHY? Because UK had ran out of rares too release. So they create new rares, 10 recolours of each so they wouldn't run out. They STILL haven't ran out 2 and a half years later, you should be happy they were recolours. It's either recolours or the super rares :)

Sulake are playing with people’s lives and need to consider the users a lot more. Ione gave out gifts that were stated ‘never to be released’ and yet again there is speculation that they will be.

Speculation? Where have you been? There's always someone, somewhere saying the Throne will be released, it's just a rumour. Plus the rumour isn't even as strong, I remember back in October 2005, the Throne was 3HC, they had to put supers in HCs because the Throne was said to be going to be released on the Halloween page. Can't see why you're moaning about it now :)

Sulake have killed the supers game, in it’s bid to profit monger.

That's what companies do.

Sulake bring out original rares and stop this farse, or else make it clear from day one that these rares will be in the catalogue in the future, that way no one will pay a high price for them.

As said before, they don't really know what rares they are going to release and when.

The supers where there is only a handful are already too easy to manipulate the values, as certain people have proved. Habbo is supposed to be a happy place to be and not leave kids distressed because they invested in a lot of supers and then it gets released.

If kids get stressed so much after losing economic value in some pixels, then they need to stop playing Habbo as much?

It may be wrong for kids to get so involved in a website, but that is Sulakes aim to get them addicted, but then to smash their dreams is just plain wrong, no one wants to trade for supers because of the way the supers are being handled on habbo.

How are they smashing dreams? As said, it's pixels. I do agree about nobody wanting to trade supers, but I believe it's because of the stupid inflation of the Throne, which has made supers fall.

The way staff handled the unreleased rares was despicable, logging into Andy’s (Evolution) account and removing items from him and changing the password was just pure wrong, and whether or not he was a friend of Justine’s (Callie) and maybe got a lot of rares from her still does not justify it.

If he was given rares that were not supposed to be given out, then it was the right thing to do. Changing his password however, was not.

It was Sulakes security breach that allowed the account to become compromised with the result of rares that should not have been on the hotel becoming available. They should have eaten humble pie and reimbursed the users that bought them regardless! I did after long debates get my furni back, however others were not so lucky, maybe because I am an adult and they are kids, it just shows another side to Sulake. Taking their frustrations out on kids, because their security got compromised, and to them it is only pixels, and worthless, so where’s the fuss over reimbursing users?

Overall, I agree about the super prices, it's stupid. The sleeping bags on the hotel, there's not that many, perhaps, 30 to 50, yet there 15HC! It's stupid.

[Slowpoke]

why do you defend sulake so much? even when they admit to being wrong you defend them.

[Leicester]

Didn't they write an article a couple of years back stating that they would "NEVER" release the DJ decks, but yet they did?

[Alkaz]

I totally agree what you are saying fcb.

But what can we really do? Sulake continue to do this and people continue to buy the items.

[Energizer]

i couldn't care less what they release tbf.

[-:Undertaker:-]

I disagree with Sulake releasing supers, the odd one or two which only 1 person has is in extreme cases ok, but when rares such as Dino Eggs are released it's just pathetic to be honest. They have no excuse for releasing DJ Decks, Green Birdbaths and so on. There are about 50 other Normal Rares waiting to be released and a few hundred Solariums, Glass, Shutters, Iced, Area, Mode and Pura range waiting to be released.

[Ailerons]

who the hells chris? if you mean lost_witness, stop referring to him as if hes your best mate

lolol, I hate that.

Well not that in particular, I hate it when people go:

"lol I bet Helen is sick of all these people sucking up to her! It makes me so angry!" Helen being helkat - I think.

and I'm really not going to read all of that, lol sorry. But, here's my opinion.

I couldn't care less if they release rares or whatnot and when they release them!

[Wyked]

I truely believe if most "supers" were released, that the community would be better as a whole. No more bickering about how "rich" x is compared to y.

Everyone with the ability to have the different pieces of furniture, and to use their creativeness rather than their "richness" to create a breathtaking room that people wish to spend time in.

[Nemo]

kk habbo = business
ofc they want money =S

[-:Undertaker:-]

I truely believe if most "supers" were released, that the community would be better as a whole. No more bickering about how "rich" x is compared to y.

Everyone with the ability to have the different pieces of furniture, and to use their creativeness rather than their "richness" to create a breathtaking room that people wish to spend time in.

The point of Habbo is past that, Habbo would lose a lot of people if trading collapsed as that's what many come on for.

[Chickenblob]

I truely believe if most "supers" were released, that the community would be better as a whole. No more bickering about how "rich" x is compared to y.

Everyone with the ability to have the different pieces of furniture, and to use their creativeness rather than their "richness" to create a breathtaking room that people wish to spend time in.

Brilliant explanation. +REP. I like to see good rooms that have been made with creativity. Having the ability to own different pieces of furni without having to give like 2T will give everyone an equal chance to create good rooms.

[StinkyFeets]

Congratz.
Now that you see how poor Habbo is, maybe you'll join Runescape?

[Immenseman]

Congratz.
Now that you see how poor Habbo is, maybe you'll join Runescape?

I should hope not.

[TXN]

well they did release the throne and alot of supers abotu 2 years ago for april fools :) but that was only for 5 mins >;[[

but at the end of the day its a buissness and there doing a good job :)

[dannyisnotamazing]

jesus bloody christ, you take habbo to serious fcb. no, i am not joking.

writing bloody paragraphs after paragraphs about super rares and how they should be released or not or whatever. (didn't read it, shoot me.) it's a game- G A M E. you play it- don't live it. don't get so wrapped up into the game and start going off on one crying cos some super rare might be released or whatever your banging on about.

you was crying earlier cos you bought a rare that u thought was super; trying to show of cos you thought there was only 1/2 in the hotel and failed, badly. then you went crying to the mods and other staff cos he moved your thread and editing it w.e.

Edited by Favourtism (Forum Moderator): Please do not be rude.

[Naythi.]

I am sick of Sulake profit mongering instead of considering its users. I hope Chris reads this. The definition of ‘never’: not ever; at no time. Where do Sulake fail to see this? They have furni they say will ‘never’ be released and then remove it from the list for the possible release. A lot of kids live by habbo and use money to buy rares to build up and then buy supers, and then Sulake go and release them. This is just wrong, releasing the dj decks, what is that all about? Has Sulake not got enough new rares to release? How long is it going to be before we read the headlines that a 12 year old has committed suicide over losing everything on habbo? I think competition prizes should stay as prizes and not be released like the red smoke, I sold mine when there were only two for 18 T. Then it gets released, so the poor people that owned the two that came onto the hotel by way of a competition lose a lot of pixels, if Sulake are going to release such rares they should have a page stating how many are on the hotel and the likelihood of future release. However they will not do this because it will make the competitions less appealing and so they will not make as much, as people will not trade for the items for high prices, there are way too many re-colours on the hotel anyway. Sulake are playing with people’s lives and need to consider the users a lot more. Ione gave out gifts that were stated ‘never to be released’ and yet again there is speculation that they will be. Sulake have killed the supers game, in it’s bid to profit monger. Sulake bring out original rares and stop this farse, or else make it clear from day one that these rares will be in the catalogue in the future, that way no one will pay a high price for them. The supers where there is only a handful are already too easy to manipulate the values, as certain people have proved. Habbo is supposed to be a happy place to be and not leave kids distressed because they invested in a lot of supers and then it gets released. It may be wrong for kids to get so involved in a website, but that is Sulakes aim to get them addicted, but then to smash their dreams is just plain wrong, no one wants to trade for supers because of the way the supers are being handled on habbo. The way staff handled the unreleased rares was despicable, logging into Andy’s (Evolution) account and removing items from him and changing the password was just pure wrong, and whether or not he was a friend of Justine’s (Callie) and maybe got a lot of rares from her still does not justify it. It was Sulakes security breach that allowed the account to become compromised with the result of rares that should not have been on the hotel becoming available. They should have eaten humble pie and reimbursed the users that bought them regardless! I did after long debates get my furni back, however others were not so lucky, maybe because I am an adult and they are kids, it just shows another side to Sulake. Taking their frustrations out on kids, because their security got compromised, and to them it is only pixels, and worthless, so where’s the fuss over reimbursing users?


I see your point... Just that well
Its habbo`s business, I get annoyed when they release rares out aswell like the petal, Made me realy angry. . . All i can say is they wont listen to you if you dont like it move onto another game.

[Janet Snakehole]

first name terms = suckup :)

I lol'd, but defo agree with you there.
:]

[Bibliophobia]

u write way more dan da average tired teenage male will read

[PaulMacC]

I agree, Habbo's going down the drain and it's all about the money.
I feel sorry for Hachette, he had 12 gold ambers.

[Sharpsterz]

as a former rare value reporter for habbox i must say im glad i quit when i did because about a month after i left they just release everything

its ridiculous and sulake obviously dont care and they just love making money and tbh the game is not worth playing anymore