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Oni
03-12-2007, 05:38 PM
In the past few weeks I have been toying with a few ideas for MMOCCs, we arent talking about small projects like my old one. I am talking full scale MMOCC. Originally I was going to create one called Kokku no oni which is Japanese for 'land of demons', but I discarded that because I felt the main MMOCC market is 11-13 and it is maybe abit too 'mature' for that age group. So instead I browsed the internet looking at successful professionaly made console games as most of the current MMOCCs seem to be completely different to them. Then I saw Final Fantasy 3 DS, the style is perfect for an MMOCC, its light happy and has a great aura around it. For example: http://dsmedia.ign.com/ds/image/article/744/744016/final-fantasy-iii-20061103054515674.jpg . The game I am intending to create will be cell shaded vector graphics with a more 'adventurey' feel than other MMOCCs where it isnt just about visiting other peoples rooms because I am also going to add a few MMORPG elements such as Dungeons to get money etc.

Now I have the background idea I need a name, something short and snappy that sounds adventurous but not tacky, No 'adventure zone' etc please. Also the domain has to be available. I estimate that this project will be completed by Q4 2008, all coding will be done by me mainly from June - Septemeber when I am off after my GCSEs, I will be hireing independent vector artists and maybe doing abit myself, the artists will be supplied with rough drawings such as the one below.

Character design 1:
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/8909/personvj4.png (http://imageshack.us)

Zroc
03-12-2007, 05:55 PM
Give up now.

You have not got the experience to run a game like this, and to be honest, the market is going downhill alot.

Clubtropica is 3D, your just trying to copy.

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.L!nK.
03-12-2007, 05:56 PM
Give up now.

You have not got the experience to run a game like this, and to be honest, the market is going downhill alot.

Clubtropica is 3D, your just trying to copy.

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Oni
03-12-2007, 06:01 PM
Give up now.

You have not got the experience to run a game like this, and to be honest, the market is going downhill alot.

Clubtropica is 3D, your just trying to copy.
1. I coded and owned zetolic, 6 months pure MMOCC coding experience.
2. It is in no way like club tropica? It isnt even 3D, Do you know what a vector is?
3. The MMOCC business is booming at the moment. With social network sites like facebook, myspace etc virtual communications and chatrooms are more accepted now.

Darren if anyone critisizes your stuff you shout at them for 'putting you down', why do it to me when I have way more experience than you. Oh wait I know its because of what I said to you after you pmed kyle with your long message about how you can turn zetolic around and you are (I quote) an 'MMOCC guru'.

Colin-Roberts
03-12-2007, 06:05 PM
hmm Zetolic did what only 2 other new mmocc managed to do. Clubtropica has proved nothing. If anyone can make a mmocc on here it's Oni.

Oni
03-12-2007, 06:07 PM
hmm Zetolic did what only 2 other new mmocc managed to do. Clubtropica has proved nothing. If anyone can make a mmocc on here it's Oni.
Thankyou colin, Darren I dont want to turn this into an argument but if you want to then I will.

Jõnathan
03-12-2007, 06:10 PM
Give up now.

You have not got the experience to run a game like this, and to be honest, the market is going downhill alot.

Clubtropica is 3D, your just trying to copy.
This is why people hate you Darren.
And do YOU have the experience to run a fully-working MMOCC?

Turnip
03-12-2007, 06:21 PM
Hmm
Names like..
Zoya [dont ask, came from a book next to me :P]
I don't know what it is about it, but it reminds me of a final fantasy sort of word, if you get me? if not, just ignore me.

Good luck with the project, it looks like you have a clear knowledge of what you are starting out too do.

Oni
03-12-2007, 06:22 PM
Hmm
Names like..
Zoya [dont ask, came from a book next to me :P]
I don't know what it is about it, but it reminds me of a final fantasy sort of word, if you get me? if not, just ignore me.

Good luck with the project, it looks like you have a clear knowledge of what you are starting out too do.
Thanks although the .com needs to be available.

mousey
03-12-2007, 08:30 PM
For those who dont know :p Vecotor is a mathmaticaly genorated image so it dosnt get pixelized when you zoom in (i recon i made some new words up there ^^)

What about vkrzone (to me like Vecotor zone but more catchey)

and would you be designing the 'people' in Flash or illustrator (sorry i can't spell to save my life) as i beleive illustrator is vector? (of course flash is been at it for 4 year is should know)

Implosion
03-12-2007, 08:32 PM
AcoWorld

i'm alright, at vector I suppose.
add me on:

[email protected]

Chippiewill
03-12-2007, 10:23 PM
Give up now.

You have not got the experience to run a game like this, and to be honest, the market is going downhill alot.

Clubtropica is 3D, your just trying to copy.

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:o

'You have not got the experience to run a game like this'
He has made the only mmocc on this forum that I know of (so far)

'and to be honest, the market is going downhill alot.' well I cant argue I dont really know but if its declining then it probably will rise very soon.

'Clubtropica is 3D, your just trying to copy.'
Club tropica wasnt originlly going to be 3d (it was going to be 2.5d)
He's made mmoccs before he knew about club tropica so he cant be copying :rolleyes:

Learn about people before you post un helpful comments.

On topic: If the whole mmocc is like the pic on the front then i doubt its going to load very fast, unless thats one of the "high quality" images that go on the site?

Still looks very nice and i hope it goes well

rh4u
03-12-2007, 10:32 PM
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anyway, good luck Oni :) Hope it goes well for you :)

Call the company name OniSoft xD

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Oni
04-12-2007, 04:25 PM
Na it was just a rough sketch. The actual graphics will be more like this although this was a quick design and is way too big.

Anyway names! Also onisoft would mean Demon Software ;)
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/1782/treexv8.png (http://imageshack.us)
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/1782/treexv8.599b251014.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=512&i=treexv8.png)

DaveTaylor
04-12-2007, 04:37 PM
I am famous I lol'd :)

Zroc
04-12-2007, 04:56 PM
Did you design that?

Oni
04-12-2007, 04:58 PM
Did you design that?
yes, why

Zroc
04-12-2007, 05:23 PM
Its not bad. If you are able to code this MMOCC, it has alot of potential.

Implosion
04-12-2007, 05:43 PM
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Zroc
04-12-2007, 05:47 PM
I am not accepting your rude and un-wanted behaviour. I am not going to 'get out' however if I was going to 'get out' anywhere, it would be getting out there and showing my skills, not leaving a forum.

People do want me, and I have alot to offer. Just because you have a bad experience or view on me, doesn't mean other people should have to. Please refrain from commenting poorly when it is not needed.

Jõnathan
04-12-2007, 05:50 PM
Please refrain from commenting poorly when it is not needed.
THE IRONY!
THE IRONY!


Give up now.

You have not got the experience to run a game like this, and to be honest, the market is going downhill alot.

Clubtropica is 3D, your just trying to copy.

Implosion
04-12-2007, 05:50 PM
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Oni
04-12-2007, 05:55 PM
Implosion added you on msn. He asked me if he could be a community manager I said no then he went on about how zetolic had no community, 600 members in under 8 hours on the BETA says otherwise. Anyway I dont want an argument so SHHHH arguing people.

.L!nK.
04-12-2007, 05:56 PM
At least he said something nice...




And btw it is nice :)

Implosion
04-12-2007, 05:58 PM
didnt recieve it Oni. O.O
PM me yours, i'll add.

also - Good work.

Zroc
04-12-2007, 05:59 PM
I spoke to Omi on MSN, however he stated that he wants to do this project alone, which I said will not work.

He said he is going to run the MMOCC on his own 100%, and not have a staff team. I said this would not work.

Implosion
04-12-2007, 06:00 PM
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Jõnathan
04-12-2007, 06:03 PM
I spoke to Omi on MSN, however he stated that he wants to do this project alone, which I said will not work.

He said he is going to run the MMOCC on his own 100%, and not have a staff team. I said this would not work.
:rolleyes: is all I have to say about that.

Zroc
04-12-2007, 06:13 PM
It won't work, it just won't. You can not create a MMOCC on your own.

Jõnathan
04-12-2007, 06:16 PM
It won't work, it just won't. You can not create a MMOCC on your own.
What I meant by :rolleyes: was that he wouldn't say that; look at the first post in the thread:

I will be hireing independent vector artists
He will have staff - just not at this moment in time.

Zroc
04-12-2007, 06:22 PM
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Awfy
04-12-2007, 06:26 PM
Give up now.

You have not got the experience to run a game like this, and to be honest, the market is going downhill alot.

Clubtropica is 3D, your just trying to copy.

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No ClubTropica have copied every other 3D game out there. Like IMVU, Second Life and There. ClubTropica will fail, as they are relying on Habbo suck ups who loved to lick Callie's backside for rares. Which won't work, maybe for a start.

Zroc
04-12-2007, 06:27 PM
CT is showing a little bit of n00byness I agree.


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Oni
04-12-2007, 06:31 PM
Maybe just maybe darren it was to get you to go away.

Implosion
04-12-2007, 06:46 PM
you see Darren.
no
one
wants
you. :)

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Invent
04-12-2007, 06:51 PM
you see Darren.
no
one
wants
you. He will never understand that. He is being far too naive for his age and won't listen to anyone's opinions because of the amazing comments professionals gave him! Oh and don't forget his awesome experience with that fusion magazine!

By not listening to ANYTHING we say on this Forum about his work he has already failed at becomming a web designer as that is the main thing you HAVE to do as a web developer (take in opinions). Just because someone said something is good doesn't mean it actually is. So what if they are deemed 'professionals'? How does that make them any better at giving an opinion on something than us?

Oh and as for his "years of experience in MMOCCS", all I have to say is 'lol'.

Meh, little rant.

Good luck with this new MMOCC by the way.

Oni
04-12-2007, 07:02 PM
He will never understand that. He is being far too naive for his age and won't listen to anyone's opinions because of the amazing comments professionals gave him! Oh and don't forget his awesome experience with that fusion magazine!

By not listening to ANYTHING we say on this Forum about his work he has already failed at becomming a web designer as that is the main thing you HAVE to do as a web developer (take in opinions). Just because someone said something is good doesn't mean it actually is. So what if they are deemed 'professionals'? How does that make them any better at giving an opinion on something than us?

Oh and as for his "years of experience in MMOCCS", all I have to say is 'lol'.

Meh, little rant.

Good luck with this new MMOCC by the way.
Hes just gonna reply with 'The head of Getty images said im good and so did my mum', oh and ty

Implosion
04-12-2007, 07:07 PM
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.L!nK.
04-12-2007, 07:10 PM
You take it too far Impolsion..

Implosion
04-12-2007, 07:11 PM
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.L!nK.
04-12-2007, 07:13 PM
Yes, but that video is true.
And, what I said is the truth.
No-one actually does. So please, stop defending him, and let him leave.

Haven't seen the video, wasn't talking about that.
I was just saying, you take it toooooooo far.

Also I'm not defending him, I also dislike him but when someone takes it too far.. its not really fair.. :S

Implosion
04-12-2007, 07:14 PM
Why does he want to come onto a forum, where no-one likes him?
Seriously It's just weird.

It's for the best for him really.
He'll be able to start fresh, start a new place where he has a chance
to set things right.

.L!nK.
04-12-2007, 07:16 PM
Why does he want to come onto a forum, where no-one likes him?
Seriously It's just weird.

It's for the best for him really.
He'll be able to start fresh, start a new place where he has a chance
to set things right.

You can't really talk for others.

There are many members of this forum that others don't like, but it doesn't mean EVERYONE don't like the person.

But I understand the top, it is weird.

Oni
04-12-2007, 07:27 PM
Everyone just shhh now dont spoil the thread.

Jõnathan
04-12-2007, 07:29 PM
Everyone just shhh now dont spoil the thread.
I think it did when Darren arrived...

Colin-Roberts
04-12-2007, 07:58 PM
Oni can do it by himself. If he ever needs help with the server or anything he knows he has buddies that are willing to help him out.

Oni
04-12-2007, 08:01 PM
Oni can do it by himself. If he ever needs help with the server or anything he knows he has buddies that are willing to help him out.
Cheers colin!

Mr Macro
04-12-2007, 08:14 PM
I wish you all the best with it. As for names, i'm a little short of ideas.

Oni
05-12-2007, 06:43 PM
I wish you all the best with it. As for names, i'm a little short of ideas.
ok, thanks.

Beau
05-12-2007, 11:02 PM
No ClubTropica have copied every other 3D game out there. Like IMVU, Second Life and There. ClubTropica will fail, as they are relying on Habbo suck ups who loved to lick Callie's backside for rares. Which won't work, maybe for a start.

I couldn't agree more. Wasn't ClubTropica supposed to be released in November? They're already missing crucial targets, what does that say for their organisation.

It looks like you have some fantastic design skills, hopefully you will be able to manage the technical side and create a fantastic MMOCC ;)

Oni
06-12-2007, 06:28 PM
I couldn't agree more. Wasn't ClubTropica supposed to be released in November? They're already missing crucial targets, what does that say for their organisation.

It looks like you have some fantastic design skills, hopefully you will be able to manage the technical side and create a fantastic MMOCC ;)
Thanks but I need names!.

Its going to be based around 4 elements:
Fire
Ice
Earth
Water
So there will be a fire zone etc. So think of names based around that.

zeJosh
06-12-2007, 06:30 PM
WIFE! WifeLand xDDD

Water
Ice
Fire
Earth

WIFE

Turnip
06-12-2007, 06:31 PM
FIWE :D.
dunno if its avalible lol.

just incase u dunno wht it stands for cus i kno some people are abit dense lol.

Fire
Ice
Water
Earth

Oni
06-12-2007, 06:39 PM
FIWE :D.
dunno if its avalible lol.

just incase u dunno wht it stands for cus i kno some people are abit dense lol.

Fire
Ice
Water
Earth
Not bad, the .co.uk is available but FIWE.co.uk has no 'ring' to it if you get me. +Rep though

Turnip
06-12-2007, 06:55 PM
hmm, yeah. saying it to myself now, i realise what you mean by the 'no ring' to it. thanks for the rep. +rep back, if i can :).

Oni
06-12-2007, 08:39 PM
Heres the logo I have come up with. Each spike represents an element
http://img475.imageshack.us/img475/1014/logoey3.png (http://imageshack.us)

Turnip
06-12-2007, 08:51 PM
good idea, for the logo..
i think..
but maybe put a F by the orange, I by the white, W by the blue and by the earth but a E.
dunno if it sounds like a good idea or not, im not really a designer or anything..
good luck with it whatever you decide though :D.

Colin-Roberts
06-12-2007, 09:55 PM
Fire
Ice
Earth
Water

Wife doubt it's aviable WiceLand or Fareworld

alexxxxx
06-12-2007, 10:02 PM
good luck - you need it

What about TheThirdWorld

Oni
06-12-2007, 10:04 PM
Enough with the tacky names already ;)

Invent
06-12-2007, 10:04 PM
I don't like the logo. FAR too tacky.

Oni
06-12-2007, 10:12 PM
I don't like the logo. FAR too tacky.
Hmmmm I know what you mean. Im working on it at the moment to make it more 'clean' and professional

EDIT:
Are these better? If so which is the best.
http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/2996/logos2vn5.png (http://imageshack.us)

zeJosh
06-12-2007, 10:38 PM
Green & Brown
White & Black = nice

try orange and black
green & white

Oni
07-12-2007, 04:27 PM
http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/2793/logos2pe1.png (http://imageshack.us)

Zroc
07-12-2007, 04:57 PM
If thats the style you are going to go with, and that sort of professional approach, this MMOCC has failed before it even begins.

Oni
07-12-2007, 04:59 PM
If thats the style you are going to go with, and that sort of professional approach, this MMOCC has failed before it even begins.
You say that because I turned you down ''/ Now leave!

Zroc
07-12-2007, 05:44 PM
No, I say it because those logos are horrid, and are not suitable for ANY IMCE within the MMOCC market.

I am not leaving anything. I am giving you feedback on your work.

Oni
07-12-2007, 06:06 PM
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/8121/logogly4.png (http://imageshack.us)
Each section represents an element.

Zroc
07-12-2007, 06:10 PM
Better, but I don't think it is suitable for a MMOCC.

zeJosh
07-12-2007, 06:10 PM
Much nicer George!
Darren, just because you're jealous. Noob

mousey
07-12-2007, 06:12 PM
Elemento Hero :p

Hey Josh ^^

Zroc
07-12-2007, 06:13 PM
I am not jealous. I had a MMOCC and sold it ;)

busterbeat
07-12-2007, 06:14 PM
Clubtropica is fake you *****!, Good luck mate <3 and hmm heres name suggestion

PixQuest
Pixers
Bayside

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zeJosh
07-12-2007, 06:15 PM
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mousey
07-12-2007, 06:31 PM
Banned again zejosh =p

Busterbeat it is not fake callie is running it an it is being opened in a few days.

Good luck with the project

Oni
07-12-2007, 07:46 PM
Its perfectly suitable for this MMOCC seeing as its Vector not pixel based unlike other MMOCCs

Jõnathan
07-12-2007, 07:57 PM
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/8121/logogly4.png (http://imageshack.us)
Each section represents an element.
http://encyclopediadramatica.com/images/b/b5/Great_success%21.jpg
That looks absolutely stunning George. Well done.

Oni
07-12-2007, 08:04 PM
Remember to check if the domains are available. I want something like Elementos.com/.co.uk

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