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WarezKid
07-12-2007, 04:57 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XG0YrDMeVvI


I have to say, This just shocked me,


It shows what world we bloody live in, and this is what you dont see, It all real, oh trust, it is real.



I got nothing to say other then cry..

Nemo
07-12-2007, 04:58 PM
what is it? Cba to sign in

Shinigami
07-12-2007, 05:00 PM
animal cruelty vid

WarezKid
07-12-2007, 05:01 PM
god, what bloody world do we live in ;/

Nemo
07-12-2007, 05:01 PM
oh, am not squeamish but i prefer not see the cruelty they go through :[

Shinigami
07-12-2007, 05:08 PM
I stopped watching it after like 30 seconds lol. it showed dogs getting beaten up :'(

Soy
07-12-2007, 05:10 PM
Yeah it is horrific :(

Shinigami
07-12-2007, 05:11 PM
offtopic but who sings that song in the vid lol

DiscoPat
07-12-2007, 06:27 PM
******* *******s. I hope somone tears and rips the skin of those people alive. Did you see the ending? that dog had its skin all torn off alive and was bleeding and was still alive in pain :S. Seriously how stupid can a person get. And the stupid thing is people actually buy those furs which makes those idiot people to torture even more animals. *******s.

Shinigami
07-12-2007, 06:33 PM
******* *******s. I hope somone tears and rips the skin of those people alive. Did you see the ending? that dog had its skin all torn off alive and was bleeding and was still alive in pain :S. Seriously how stupid can a person get. And the stupid thing is people actually buy those furs which makes those idiot people to torture even more animals. *******s.

o god thats horrible. they should be shot

WarezKid
07-12-2007, 06:55 PM
******* *******s. I hope somone tears and rips the skin of those people alive. Did you see the ending? that dog had its skin all torn off alive and was bleeding and was still alive in pain :S. Seriously how stupid can a person get. And the stupid thing is people actually buy those furs which makes those idiot people to torture even more animals. *******s.


ye, bloody sick wasnt it. what world are we in :rolleyes:



o god thats horrible. they should be shot


SHOT???


THEY SHOULD BE IN PAIN, :@

Jordy
07-12-2007, 07:09 PM
ye, bloody sick wasnt it. what world are we in :rolleyes:





SHOT???


THEY SHOULD BE IN PAIN, :@He meant the dog should be shot I'm guessing. It was in so much pain and it could never live a nice life again. It would be so much better for the dog to be dead than survive, it would live with eternal pain, beyond the imagination.

I liked how the video showed nice then bad, it made it feel that little better and you felt even sorrier for them, as it showed animals at their best... and worst :(

The bit where they stamped on the dog was disgusting, and the video just in general was. I wanted to see what sort of a world we live in, and I was desperate for the video to finish. And the image at the end was one of the most disgusting things I've ever seen in my life. I just can't put myself in that position as it'd be so bad, no one can :(

Brody
07-12-2007, 07:14 PM
thats bloody distgusting the people who do this do not deserve to live in the world the cruel c u next tuesdays. getting skin alives is just about the most horrific thing ever i imagine. sick people

Roboevil
07-12-2007, 07:19 PM
I hate the attitude some people have that they only sympathise for an animal if its cute; I've known a lot of people to not care if the animal is ugly, disfigured etc.

Brody
07-12-2007, 07:21 PM
I hate the attitude some people have that they only sympathise for an animal if its cute; I've known a lot of people to not care if the animal is ugly, disfigured etc.


that itself is wrong as well its like the life of a human doesnt matter if there ugly if u were to put it in that concept

Roboevil
07-12-2007, 07:25 PM
that itself is wrong as well its like the life of a human doesnt matter if there ugly if u were to put it in that concept

Would you re-phrase that, I can't understand you.

Brody
07-12-2007, 07:26 PM
saying the life of a animal doesnt matter if the animal is ugly is the same as saying the life of a human doesnt matter if the human is ugly

Roboevil
07-12-2007, 07:28 PM
saying the life of a animal doesnt matter if the animal is ugly is the same as saying the life of a human doesnt matter if the human is ugly

Well... duh, what's your point?

Brody
07-12-2007, 07:30 PM
my point is that all animals deserve the right to have a good chance at life not to just be bred and then killed or tortured or skinned the same as humans should have

WarezKid
07-12-2007, 07:53 PM
Oh thanks for that jordy ;). i didnt know who he was talkin about,


But tbh, it just stupid, why give them suffering when you can just shoot them


Not hard :S

Shinigami
07-12-2007, 08:41 PM
I meant the people who did that to the animals should be shot.

GommeInc
07-12-2007, 08:47 PM
I always thought YouTube moderated the videos uploaded? Surely this shouldn't be on the website at all?

PS. I've not seen the video, the comments on here make it seem discusting.

Virgin Mary
07-12-2007, 09:13 PM
It's disgusting when people wear real fur, it's like in hannibal when he wears the guard's face.

WarezKid
07-12-2007, 09:36 PM
I always thought YouTube moderated the videos uploaded? Surely this shouldn't be on the website at all?

PS. I've not seen the video, the comments on here make it seem discusting.


You have to be over 18 to watch it, or have a account, but to be honest, i think it should be on tv :rolleyes:


It's disgusting when people wear real fur, it's like in hannibal when he wears the guard's face.

Ye ;'(

Roboevil
07-12-2007, 11:01 PM
But tbh, it just stupid, why give them suffering when you can just shoot them


Not hard :S
That's the bit I don't get, I suppose funding for guns and bullets would cost more, but then... killing them faster, or at all would be kinder. My only assumption is that they use the bodies for other things, meat or something and they don't want the meat to rot.


It's disgusting when people wear real fur, it's like in hannibal when he wears the guard's face.

I think fur coats are really nice, I know it's really cruel to wear an animal, but in terms of looks I think they're really hot.

WarezKid
08-12-2007, 12:49 AM
Dont take this personally, or to anyone else who reads this,


I think you need to be skinned alive, and suffered to get a fur coat or w.e :@

I mean, i think it fine, but THEY dont need to go through suffering so you can please someone else?


There lots of other ways, like sex ect, or killing your own human race, but dont blame somone who dumber then you ;/


SOrry, just had to say that. dont take it personally

Shinigami
08-12-2007, 12:52 AM
Dont take this personally, or to anyone else who reads this,


I think you need to be skinned alive, and suffered to get a fur coat or w.e :@

I mean, i think it fine, but THEY dont need to go through suffering so you can please someone else?


There lots of other ways, like sex ect, or killing your own human race, but dont blame somone who dumber then you ;/


SOrry, just had to say that. dont take it personally

i know where you're coming from. i dont understand the bold bits though.

WarezKid
08-12-2007, 01:01 AM
i know where you're coming from. i dont understand the bold bits though.


I meant as in, if you want action, or something that these guys want from these animals, do it in a peaceful way ;L

Ezzie.
08-12-2007, 04:59 PM
It's dusgusting how humans treat animal's in this world.. and it's even worse that there're even more who live i blind ignorance to the facts.

also.. you think that vid's bad?
Watch earthlings.. a one hour documentary on the four main cruelties to animals.. search it on youtube.. it's.. well.. pretty shocking to say the least. [note: it isn't peta stuff afaik, even though some peta vids have credibility to them]

Asher
08-12-2007, 06:12 PM
the fur industry is plain barbaric.

boycott beyonce!!!!!!!!

FlyingJesus
08-12-2007, 06:24 PM
It's a sad sad world when there are countries such as our own where people care more about animals than they do about other humans.

arouse
09-12-2007, 01:42 AM
In answer to the person who questioned why this video would be labelled suitable by YouTube, is generally because they don't moderate every single video uploaded like their T&C claim they do (pointing out the obvious), Panorama did this big nationwide production about it, requesting explanations of why they allowed gang violence video's on it, too. Their response was a 'no comment' as far as I remember, but y'know.

arouse
09-12-2007, 01:44 AM
In answer to the person who questioned why this video would be labelled suitable by YouTube, is generally because they don't moderate every single video uploaded like their T&C claim they do (pointing out the obvious), Panorama did this big nationwide production about it, requesting explanations of why they allowed gang violence video's on it, too. Their response was a 'no comment' as far as I remember, but y'know.

WarezKid
09-12-2007, 02:02 AM
In answer to the person who questioned why this video would be labelled suitable by YouTube, is generally because they don't moderate every single video uploaded like their T&C claim they do (pointing out the obvious), Panorama did this big nationwide production about it, requesting explanations of why they allowed gang violence video's on it, too. Their response was a 'no comment' as far as I remember, but y'know.

Or maybe because it allowed? :rolleyes:.

5,5
09-12-2007, 03:38 AM
GO PETA!

le harry
09-12-2007, 04:43 AM
******* *******s. I hope somone tears and rips the skin of those people alive. Did you see the ending? that dog had its skin all torn off alive and was bleeding and was still alive in pain :S. Seriously how stupid can a person get. And the stupid thing is people actually buy those furs which makes those idiot people to torture even more animals. *******s.

how did u get ur score in 'Fire @ Will' its impossible!

Er, yeah I'm not watching it mainly because I don't have a youtube account which isn't banned and that I don't feel like watching animals dieing.

dannyisnotamazing
09-12-2007, 04:43 AM
how did u get ur score in 'Fire @ Will' its impossible!

Er, yeah I'm not watching it mainly because I don't have a youtube account which isn't banned and that I don't feel like watching animals dieing.
hes hakin

le harry
09-12-2007, 04:48 AM
hes hakin

yeah wrong-name must do it to his scores are imposs.

dannyisnotamazing
09-12-2007, 04:48 AM
lets report him

le harry
09-12-2007, 04:57 AM
ok u first

dannyisnotamazing
09-12-2007, 05:13 AM
kk done it

arouse
09-12-2007, 05:33 AM
Or maybe because it allowed? :rolleyes:.

Yes, because something like that doesn't go against any of their terms and conditions! Moron.

Niall!
09-12-2007, 06:53 PM
Im not watching it, animal cruelty makes me sick.

WarezKid
09-12-2007, 07:19 PM
In answer to the person who questioned why this video would be labelled suitable by YouTube, is generally because they don't moderate every single video uploaded like their T&C claim they do (pointing out the obvious), Panorama did this big nationwide production about it, requesting explanations of why they allowed gang violence video's on it, too. Their response was a 'no comment' as far as I remember, but y'know.


Yes, because something like that doesn't go against any of their terms and conditions! Moron.

Your making it worst for yourself for calling me a Moron :rolleyes:.


Im not watching it, animal cruelty makes me sick.


Wouldn't suggest this movie if you get heart attacks easily

GommeInc
10-12-2007, 01:27 AM
I don't believe it is against the terms of use on YouTube to upload such a video :S Looking and the terms of use, it states:

"I. In your use of the website, you will otherwise comply with the terms and conditions of these Terms of Service, YouTube Community Guidelines, and all applicable local, national, and international laws and regulations."

Is it against any laws/regulations that such videos shouldn't be shown?

Ezzie.
10-12-2007, 01:47 AM
Whoever said it shouldn't be shown is a muppet:

A) Free speech within due course- the video is rated mature.

B) Animal cruelty goes on everyday, to deny people learning about that because of stupid "pc" issues is ignorant and non-helpful to the cause

EZZIE OUT!

arouse
10-12-2007, 12:20 PM
Your making it worst for yourself for calling me a Moron :rolleyes:.


You're making it worse for yourself by using poor grammar, moron.

WarezKid
10-12-2007, 05:16 PM
Yes, because something like that doesn't go against any of their terms and conditions! Moron.


You're making it worse for yourself by using poor grammar, moron.




...


Now shut the hell up? and read above you ;)

Pretty sad to see that you have to correct my spelling and grammer mistakes.

Here what people say about people like you:rolleyes::


People who pick at other people for spelling things wrong and making grammatical errors. Yes it is annoying, but not everyone is as intelligent as me so I get over it ;).


Now that sad mate,


You cant even admit your own mistakes?

Oh yes i know, i did some ****** Grammer again didn't i, maybe correct them for me :rolleyes:

Asher
10-12-2007, 05:54 PM
it's okay that you are illiterate

JK

anyway! animal cruelty is bad :@;o

Niall!
10-12-2007, 08:13 PM
...


Now shut the hell up? and read above you ;)

Pretty sad to see that you have to correct my spelling and grammer mistakes.

Here what people say about people like you:rolleyes::




Now that sad mate,


You cant even admit your own mistakes?

Oh yes i know, i did some ****** Grammer again didn't i, maybe correct them for me :rolleyes:

He used the capital m because it was after an exclamation mark :)

Sarah
10-12-2007, 09:19 PM
omg, this is bad theyre so cruel to them i strongly disagree with animal cruelty its wrong. This video goes into so much detial i feel sick now.

Scouse
11-12-2007, 02:20 AM
horrible *****! i also watched the video 'earthlings' which ezzie mentioned (sp?) which is really sad. how can people be so cruel?

WarezKid
11-12-2007, 06:10 PM
Ye, i just watched that vid


i skipped through bits. and i saw this bit where this guy was jumping on a dog head :s


then another one where they got this machine and put it on a dog head and turned it on.

It crashed the dogs head and was still alove ;/

Mentor
12-12-2007, 12:15 AM
Just to correct a few comments in the thread, Fur isnt obtained by that method (im guessing its the video i think it is, cba 2 log in to tube 2 see). Its just properganda from organistions like peta, who want your donations so they can then kill the animals themselves in secret and get more money (plus tortcher a few to make properganda like this)

Concider, if your making fur, Ruining the fur really isnt a very profitable way to go about it...

- Carl

Niall!
12-12-2007, 12:49 PM
Just to correct a few comments in the thread, Fur isnt obtained by that method (im guessing its the video i think it is, cba 2 log in to tube 2 see). Its just properganda from organistions like peta, who want your donations so they can then kill the animals themselves in secret and get more money (plus tortcher a few to make properganda like this)

Concider, if your making fur, Ruining the fur really isnt a very profitable way to go about it...

- Carl

Your an idiot

Edited by mat64 (Forum Super Moderator): Please don't be rude.

WarezKid
12-12-2007, 04:00 PM
Just to correct a few comments in the thread, Fur isnt obtained by that method (im guessing its the video i think it is, cba 2 log in to tube 2 see). Its just properganda from organistions like peta, who want your donations so they can then kill the animals themselves in secret and get more money (plus tortcher a few to make properganda like this)

Concider, if your making fur, Ruining the fur really isnt a very profitable way to go about it...

- Carl


English, and your must be an idiot for not watching the vid :rolleyes:


"because i cba"

:$

Your an idiot

lol.

Asher
12-12-2007, 04:22 PM
it makes me feel quite ill. it's completely wicked and horrible.

Mentor
12-12-2007, 04:47 PM
Your an idiot
Wow... I most definably must be an idiot then, yes sir. I would never be able to come up with a response as original and witty as that one. I am totally in awe at your superior debating ability's. :rolleyes:


English, and your must be an idiot for not watching the vid :rolleyes:
Wow... calling me an idiot after someone else just did, your wit and originality eclipses even that of weec0. I can obviously see why poor propaganda aimed at the ignorant and impressionable doesn't effect you in the slightest.
Wow i really wish i wasn't such an idiot and were capable of forming such an impeccable and solid case for my beliefs. Pitty i shall likely never achieved your profound ability to not sound at all like a totally and utterly brainwashed child at the failing end of the school system.

But hey, i can still dream.


"because i cba"
Yup, i cba, i've likely seen it before anyway, some of us do have more interesting things to do than follow every link posted. Im sure someone with your intellect has obvious come access the acronym cba before, being that its used in a similar amount to phrases such as lol, which you so cleverly managed to post.

Dear Jebus, i wish for the day i come across people so ignorant that irony and sarcasm would come so easily, as to make posting my messages go in a flash.


<Post Script>
In other news, anyone pertaining to have a brain and has an interest in the fact peta, does indeed kill the animals it takes in (which is proven) and why the organisation is simply out to make money, Id be glad to explain.
(Peta were forced to admit in court that they kill around 95% of all animals they take in, after a number of there employees where brought up on animal rights abuse charges)

FlyingJesus
12-12-2007, 05:07 PM
I love Carl


Edited by Yoshimitsui (Super Moderator): Do NOT make pointless posts.

-Xiangu-
12-12-2007, 07:01 PM
oh i cant be bothered to make a new account to view it. i think i know what vid ur showing. its that one that the woman who was married to paul mcartney (i think) used in her campaign to stop animal cruelty

its quite horrific

Asher
12-12-2007, 07:02 PM
It's not that one, but still equally as explicit.

WarezKid
12-12-2007, 07:21 PM
oh i cant be bothered to make a new account to view it. i think i know what vid ur showing. its that one that the woman who was married to paul mcartney (i think) used in her campaign to stop animal cruelty

its quite horrific

no, bit worst lol.

stratosphere
14-12-2007, 01:24 PM
Let's get our guns.

arouse
14-12-2007, 01:37 PM
...


Now shut the hell up? and read above you ;)

Pretty sad to see that you have to correct my spelling and grammer mistakes.

Here what people say about people like you:rolleyes::




Now that sad mate,


You cant even admit your own mistakes?

Oh yes i know, i did some ****** Grammer again didn't i, maybe correct them for me :rolleyes:


If you hadn't noticed, in the first quote the 'moron' came after an exclamation mark, in the second one it came after a comma. I think you're the one who needs to 'shut the hell up' and get yourself some extra tuition, moron.

Ezzie.
14-12-2007, 04:10 PM
By the way- Earthling's was not created by peta or affiliated with it as far as I am aware of, it was done originally on the concept of a public information advert on spaying and neutering pets to prevent overpopulation etc, then it spread into a five year long project revealing all the aspects of how mankind treats and uses animals for various parts of the industries etc.

Also fur is within that documentary also and shows similar stuff.. you have to remember alot of the time in poorer countries they don't have the equipment or.. dare i say it- common sense, to kill animals in a more humane manor or to get more fur yielded.

Also about the whole "peta kills animals" thing going on, there was an isolated incident of two employees of peta killing and then dumping about ten dogs in a trash can, peta has disassociated themselves with the two individuals and have been starting their own investigations whilst condemning the two should they be found guilty..

Also the guys who created peta kills animals (The center for consumer freedom), here's some info about him:


The Center for Consumer Freedom (CCF) is a nonprofit corporation run by lobbyist Richard Berman through his Washington DC-based for-profit public relations company, Berman & Co. The CCF, formerly known as the Guest Choice Network, was set up by Berman with a $600,000 "donation" from tobacco company Philip Morris.

Berman arranges for large sums of corporate money to find its way into nonprofit societies of which he is the executive director. He then hires his own company as a consultant to these nonprofit groups. Of the millions of dollars "donated" by Philip Morris between the years 1995 and 1998, 49 percent to 79 percent went directly to Berman or Berman & Co.Some more info to show richard berman in his true light:

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Berman_and_Co.

Also did you know peta takes in animals from the streets or frm animal shelters and makes sure they are either adopted or humanely killed so they can verify the animal felt no pain in the process, if the website is so interested in slandering peta because they don't have enough space to hold all the animals then why doesn't the guy donate some of his money to open more space up for more animals to live in?

Because he's a hypocrite who actively encourages smoking and the tobacco industry.. (after receiving a generous donation from the industry itself..) also (in the link I provided) many of his associates are chairmans for "outback steakhouse" and "burgerking"..

Also another website (although this one is animal rights, it is backed up by other sources- google them if you wish)

http://www.animalrightsmalta.com/killsanimals.html

I think the guy who runs petakillsanimals.com should change it to richardbermankillshumans.com :)

But hey, what do i know

reindeer.
14-12-2007, 04:12 PM
these people should be castrated.
then people like this wouldnt be able to breed more idiots like them.

WarezKid
14-12-2007, 04:33 PM
If you hadn't noticed, in the first quote the 'moron' came after an exclamation mark, in the second one it came after a comma. I think you're the one who needs to 'shut the hell up' and get yourself some extra tuition, moron.


Why you not at school? :rolleyes:

Edited by Elkaa (Forum Super Moderator): Please do not provoke other members.

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