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Clowgon
30-12-2007, 02:22 PM
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42445000/jpg/_42445253_scarf-ap203.jpg Saddam was taunted as he was being executed


Security forces in Iraq have been placed on alert on the first anniversary of the execution of former President Saddam Hussein.


http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=uds98K6lg18

-:Undertaker:-
30-12-2007, 03:24 PM
That's gone quick, so it's one year today that Iraq lost a leader who knew how to lead and stop his country turning into a civil hellhole.

Clowgon
30-12-2007, 03:54 PM
That's gone quick, so it's one year today that Iraq lost a leader who knew how to lead and stop his country turning into a civil hellhole.

Yeh i know, This year has came around fast.

WarezKid
30-12-2007, 03:55 PM
Wow...

Year quick...

GommeInc
30-12-2007, 04:19 PM
Wow that went fast. It's been a year since Iraq turned into a bigger hell hole.

Ostinato
30-12-2007, 04:23 PM
That's gone quick, so it's one year today that Iraq lost a leader who knew how to lead and stop his country turning into a civil hellhole.

By giving them no human rights and killing anyone who spoke against him... That's some brill leadership mate... Maybe Gordon Brown should do it to control us bunch of animals - oh wait, he's already managing to do so without having to use aggressive methods. :rolleyes:

-:Undertaker:-
30-12-2007, 04:53 PM
By giving them no human rights and killing anyone who spoke against him... That's some brill leadership mate... Maybe Gordon Brown should do it to control us bunch of animals - oh wait, he's already managing to do so without having to use aggressive methods. :rolleyes:

You need to learn about the Middle East.

You cannot control Middle Eastern countrys by democracy like we know it, look at Africa they have it and oh, they're starving! Saddam actually gave them more than they have now believe it or not, then they had water, security, food, had the freedom to wear western clothes. Now they have none of that and their freedom is less, particulary the women who now have to cover up because the Shia muslims are in control.

Clowgon
30-12-2007, 05:00 PM
You need to learn about the Middle East.

You cannot control Middle Eastern countrys by democracy like we know it, look at Africa they have it and oh, they're starving! Saddam actually gave them more than they have now believe it or not, then they had water, security, food, had the freedom to wear western clothes. Now they have none of that and their freedom is less, particulary the women who now have to cover up because the Shia muslims are in control.

You should go in to polictics, you whould be ace:P

Superman
31-12-2007, 04:49 AM
Oh don't tell him that lol. What he's saying is true though, some places require different methods of ruling.

Frodo13.
31-12-2007, 01:15 PM
You should go in to polictics, you whould be ace:P

I won't be in this country if he ever did...

-:Undertaker:-
31-12-2007, 02:13 PM
You should go in to polictics, you whould be ace:P

I think I will when i'm older, but I doubt it'll be British Politics as i'm leaving this country and I think the political system here is so undemocratic. My point being that England is being ruled by a Government that it didn't vote in and our country is being robbed both by the Union and the EU.


I won't be in this country if he ever did...

Too right you wouldn't ;)

Alkaz
31-12-2007, 02:22 PM
Iraq lost a leader who knew how to lead and stop his country turning into a civil hellhole.
People feared him, thats the only reason. He killed far more people each year than what have been killed during the war.

-:Undertaker:-
31-12-2007, 02:27 PM
People feared him, thats the only reason. He killed far more people each year than what have been killed during the war.

He didn't.

He killed people who were trying to kill him/assainate him and yes innocent people were killed but far more innocent people have been killed by this war. You have to use fear/military in the Middle East, if you think democracy works then go to Kenya where they have democracy but are all killing eachother over it and there's no one who can stop them.

Markness.
31-12-2007, 02:48 PM
Agreed-ish, If we hadn't invaded Iraq looking for WMD's that just weren't there, thousands of lives wouldn't have been lost and Iraq would be in a better state than it is today. Undertaker has a good point, but i wouldn't go as far as saying "saddam was a good leader"

-:Undertaker:-
31-12-2007, 03:16 PM
Agreed-ish, If we hadn't invaded Iraq looking for WMD's that just weren't there, thousands of lives wouldn't have been lost and Iraq would be in a better state than it is today. Undertaker has a good point, but i wouldn't go as far as saying "saddam was a good leader"

He was for the Republic of Iraq.



To diversify the largely oil-based Iraqi economy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Iraq), Saddam implemented a national infrastructure campaign that made great progress in building roads, promoting mining (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mining), and developing other industries. The campaign revolutionized Iraq's energy industries. Electricity was brought to nearly every city in Iraq, and many outlying areas.
Before the 1970s, most of Iraq's people lived in the countryside, where Saddam himself was born and raised, and roughly two-thirds were peasants. But this number would decrease quickly during the 1970s as the country invested much of its oil profits into industrial expansion.


He also improved Iraqs literacy levels, I heard it was from something like 30% before he came to power had skills in literacy and then within a few years over 70% had skills in literacy. He also gave women more rights to wear western clothes, have higher jobs. He abolised Shia Courts.

skins
31-12-2007, 04:18 PM
Who cares tbh?

Frodo13.
31-12-2007, 04:29 PM
Too right you wouldn't ;)

Haha
Maybe you should go into politics in the Middle East, preferably Iraq or Afganistan :)

-:Undertaker:-
31-12-2007, 05:28 PM
Haha
Maybe you should go into politics in the Middle East, preferably Iraq or Afganistan :)

I'm sure you wouldn't mind since you sound like you supported the war, or are you like Tony Blair who prefers to give the orders and not go over their and risk his life for a 'just' cause?

Clowgon
02-01-2008, 01:25 PM
I'm sure you wouldn't mind since you sound like you supported the war, or are you like Tony Blair who prefers to give the orders and not go over their and risk his life for a 'just' cause?

Or a Middle east pace keeper. You have the brains of a 40 year old.
You know to much.:P Clever boy.

DiscoPat
03-01-2008, 02:53 AM
Undertaker is actually right in my point of view, cause the war messed up iraq big time, atleast when saddam was in lead, people had food on the table and shelter. but cause of the war (reason oil..) alot of innicont people got killed.

Teyauna.
03-01-2008, 03:22 AM
A year already!?! It was just the other day. Shows how quickly time passes by.

Jordy
03-01-2008, 01:02 PM
Lmao I remember that day like yesterday. When we got back to school I remember everyone running into our form room with video's of Saddam's hanging on their phone thinking they're unique when nearly everyone did.

Saddam held Iraq together, and if you compare it to Saudi Arabia, his method works with time. Saudi Arabia used to be like Iraq in the past, harsh leaders (Monarchy), brutal punishments, poor human rights and lots of oil. Look where it is now? There is now peace and a hell of a lot of wealth over there. Most definitely the richest and wealthiest nation in the Middle East, Iraq was following what Saudi did, and I'm sure it could of achieved what Saudi did, till we stepped in.

e5
03-01-2008, 01:10 PM
hmm went quick yes

-:Undertaker:-
04-01-2008, 05:23 PM
Lmao I remember that day like yesterday. When we got back to school I remember everyone running into our form room with video's of Saddam's hanging on their phone thinking they're unique when nearly everyone did.

Saddam held Iraq together, and if you compare it to Saudi Arabia, his method works with time. Saudi Arabia used to be like Iraq in the past, harsh leaders (Monarchy), brutal punishments, poor human rights and lots of oil. Look where it is now? There is now peace and a hell of a lot of wealth over there. Most definitely the richest and wealthiest nation in the Middle East, Iraq was following what Saudi did, and I'm sure it could of achieved what Saudi did, till we stepped in.

Good point, and that's why Saddam and the King were friends and the highest members of the Arab League. Look at Zimbarbwe and Kenya now who have been given their 'freedom'.

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