Too hard to get reputation. - READ [Archive]

@xP

31-12-2007, 05:18 PM

It's way too hard.

We have to get 600 reputation points before we gain a new block or rep power? It will take ages? The point being that most members have 1-16 reputation power. The highest person only has 20 reputation. Even if everyone had 20 rep it will take ages to get 600 points.

It's a joke. You should of just left it. I think it should be lowered. Too 150 or maybe 200. There was no need for it to be increased by such as narrow margin. 100 to 1000. Or even 100 to 600.

Can anything be done, please. You can surely see everyone is totally against this.

Thanks

@xP

Soil

31-12-2007, 05:21 PM

Most hxf admins dont really care what the members think. They think that they are celebs who need to be respected.

benjamin

31-12-2007, 05:22 PM

Everyone is aware this is a problem, another thread isn't needed

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@xP

31-12-2007, 05:23 PM

Everyone is aware this is a problem, another thread isn't needed

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Yes it is.

It exaplains why it's hard to get reputation.

Neversoft

31-12-2007, 05:23 PM

Thats the whole point. They want reputation to be hard to get.

Demon

31-12-2007, 05:23 PM

Dont bother they wont listen.

@xP

31-12-2007, 05:24 PM

Thats the whole point. They want reputation to be hard to get.

It's TOO hard to get? Virtually imppossible. They might aswell disable it. srsly.

reindeer.

31-12-2007, 05:27 PM

it came as a surprise to me they they were going to stop selling it.
i thought they liked money - money means POWAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!

benjamin

31-12-2007, 05:30 PM

Yes it is.

It exaplains why it's hard to get reputation.
No, another thread isn't needed.
It has all been explained to us as if we were born yesterday, everyone knows why it's hard to get reputation and we all know the reasons that management implimented this.

Another thread is just pointless and clogging up the forum, it will only get merged into the main one.

jrh2002

31-12-2007, 05:31 PM

I think you should only gain rep power from time on the forums and not from amount of posts or reputation points. This will stop most the pointless rep.

Neversoft

31-12-2007, 05:31 PM

It's TOO hard to get? Virtually imppossible.

Yeah, thats what they want.

Soil

31-12-2007, 05:33 PM

I think you should only gain rep power from time on the forums and not from amount of posts or reputation points. This will stop most the pointless rep.
Only if you could own the forum again, it would be so much better. Thats a great idea and that should be implemented.

jrh2002

31-12-2007, 05:42 PM

Only if you could own the forum again, it would be so much better. Thats a great idea and that should be implemented.

Lol I could not cope with all the hassle :o
If I was still owner and everybody reacted to changes so badly all of the time I would have just emailed you all thanking you for giving me a great time over the years but I could not be doing with all the complaining and then closed for good. :o Being owner or being responsible for the site like Mad is more trouble than its worth in my opinion unless you were making good money out of it which they dont.

I think the rep change had to happen but perhaps there was a better way of doing it but thats a discussion in itself.

Soil

31-12-2007, 05:46 PM

Lol I could not cope with all the hassle :o
If I was still owner and everybody reacted to changes so badly all of the time I would have just emailed you all thanking you for giving me a great time over the years but I could not be doing with all the complaining and then closed for good. :o Being owner or being responsible for the site like Mad is more trouble than its worth in my opinion unless you were making good money out of it which they dont.

I think the rep change had to happen but perhaps there was a better way of doing it but thats a discussion in itself.

Complaints increased since MAD took over as he makes stupid decisions which annoys the members.

@xP

31-12-2007, 06:23 PM

Yeah, thats what they want.

But is that what we want?

bo$$

31-12-2007, 06:25 PM

I say we all disable our rep ftw.

Plank

31-12-2007, 06:26 PM

I liked the idea until I realized that the 3 rep power I had worked towards for ages had gone down to 1 rep power:(

@xP

31-12-2007, 06:29 PM

I say we all disable our rep ftw.

I did, but was checking something. I cba with rep, they might aswell disable the system.

joshuar

31-12-2007, 06:33 PM

I was up for disabling the system or starting again (everybody's rep gets reset to 10 points), however, we thought that it would cause more mayhem then has happened now.

Neversoft

31-12-2007, 06:33 PM

But is that what we want?

I don't think they care to be honest.

bo$$

31-12-2007, 06:35 PM

I was up for disabling the system or starting again (everybody's rep gets reset to 10 points), however, we thought that it would cause more mayhem then has happened now.

Yeah, especially for people who have bought it.. They'd be cheesed more then anyone else.

joshuar

31-12-2007, 06:37 PM

Yeah, especially for people who have bought it.. They'd be cheesed more then anyone else.

Yeah that was why we thought no, and for the VIPs. The more I think about jrh's idea the more I like it though. Maybe that could be a good approach.

Loqo

31-12-2007, 06:43 PM

Just a pitty that the members of this forum are great and yet they dont get a say in any happenings/changes to the forum.

@xP

31-12-2007, 06:59 PM

I don't see what this new system will gain tbh.

joshuar

31-12-2007, 07:00 PM

I don't see what this new system will gain tbh.

What did the old system gain? It's pratically the same, just less numbers involved.

Wootzeh

31-12-2007, 07:07 PM

It's not too hard to GET reputation, that's easy, just make good posts.

Soy

31-12-2007, 07:11 PM

Yeah this is an abomination!

Frisky

31-12-2007, 07:14 PM

Lol, why does everyone care about reputation :s? much more important things to worry about than a few blocks on the right.

@xP

31-12-2007, 07:18 PM

It's not too hard to GET reputation, that's easy, just make good posts.

Good luck trying to get 600 reputation points when most members have 1-20 points.

Alkaz

31-12-2007, 07:19 PM

REp was 200poinst per, 500 is good i think.

spot.

31-12-2007, 07:26 PM

What did the old system gain? It's pratically the same, just less numbers involved.
i dont give a **** about rep but if its the same why would you change it theres gotta be an reason that stands out

pretty dumb thing to say coming from a mod

--ss--

31-12-2007, 07:26 PM

Well seeing as a few years ago people didn't have high rep powers, no one had over power 10 yet everyone seemed to cope and their powers gradually got higher and higher , Just make good posts worthy of rep or buy a few years of vip :rolleyes:
If you waite a few days everyone would have forgotten about the change and will continue to be like how they always were and you will see peoples powers grow over time.
How ever I do agree that you need too many points for a power now.

-:Undertaker:-

31-12-2007, 07:26 PM

Let's face it, they won't change it because they are too arrogant.

Alan_Carr

31-12-2007, 07:33 PM

I want my rep bk, i had loads.
I think its cos staff are jealous of my rep powers.

joshuar

31-12-2007, 07:36 PM

i dont give a **** about rep but if its the same why would you change it theres gotta be an reason that stands out

pretty dumb thing to say coming from a mod

You don't care about rep but you want a reason for the change? And I'm not a moderator.

The reputation system doesn't need to have people with stupidly high reputation powers, it *should* be a simple system where you can award members with some points for a good post, and take away when there is a bad post. It isn't a system where you go "I NEED LOTS OF REP POINTS TO PROVE I AM THE BEST", which is what it had become I think over time. This way, it reverts back to being a simple system where points can be given without a drastic effect on peoples reputation score.

spot.

31-12-2007, 07:37 PM

You don't care about rep but you want a reason for the change? And I'm not a moderator.

The reputation system doesn't need to have people with stupidly high reputation powers, it *should* be a simple system where you can award members with some points for a good post, and take away when there is a bad post. It isn't a system where you go "I NEED LOTS OF REP POINTS TO PROVE I AM THE BEST", which is what it had become I think over time. This way, it reverts back to being a simple system where points can be given without a drastic effect on peoples reputation score.
ty those are good reason i agree with them

Hazza

31-12-2007, 07:37 PM

Let's face it, they won't change it because they are too arrogant.
I agree, it all boils down to arrogance.

@xP

31-12-2007, 07:38 PM

REp was 200poinst per, 500 is good i think.

it should be 250 or 300 then.

joshuar

31-12-2007, 07:56 PM

I think that 600 points is a good amount, maybe a few less on the posts and time registered, I believe this is in discussion right now.

I'd expect about 3,500-4,000 posts and 1 / 1.5 years should be about it.

Jordy

31-12-2007, 08:12 PM

Hitman

31-12-2007, 08:17 PM

How come we have Joshuar and Jrh don't like the idea that much, or have 'Better' idea's but Mad said at least once that all the admin's thoroughly agreed with the idea as they reached this decision as a compromise? That seems to be a lie.

Edit: How come 2 of my past infractions have disappeared. I had 2 infractions and 2 warnings, all expired but now 1 infraction and 1 warning has gone? :P
(the edit) seems strange. o.O; There shouldn't be any reason for that... :P Lucky I suppose!

Catzsy

31-12-2007, 09:13 PM

I think the rep change had to happen but perhaps there was a better way of doing it but thats a discussion in itself.

Nail hit firmly on the head - yes most people only complain when there is something to complain about. Consulatation and compromise might have been the way forward taking the majority of the forum with them.

@xP

01-01-2008, 12:54 AM

I don't see why they won't listen tbh. It looks good with lots of reputation power.

-Xiangu-

01-01-2008, 01:32 AM

im in a really GOOD mood at the moment. the whole thing i said about it not being fair was really stupid of me. its just reputation. its only a word and a few lime green blocks on a forum. its nothing to rate people by by going - Oh they have 15 rep power i had better be nice to them. i just don't care ! its only rep i say well done for changing it now! because everyone needs a change in something sometimes. most people were probably just looking for something to somplain about! i realised that the rep hasnt been taken away just the power has been set at a higher level. its fine people. now please stop complaining about it. it is probably going to be one of the best things that happened to habbox. for me habboxforum just keeps getting better!

Xiangu here and very happy :)

le harry

01-01-2008, 03:07 AM

it went from 200 > 600...

@xP

01-01-2008, 03:09 AM

it went from 200 > 600...

I don't get you?

im in a really GOOD mood at the moment. the whole thing i said about it not being fair was really stupid of me. its just reputation. its only a word and a few lime green blocks on a forum. its nothing to rate people by by going - Oh they have 15 rep power i had better be nice to them. i just don't care ! its only rep i say well done for changing it now! because everyone needs a change in something sometimes. most people were probably just looking for something to somplain about! i realised that the rep hasnt been taken away just the power has been set at a higher level. its fine people. now please stop complaining about it. it is probably going to be one of the best things that happened to habbox. for me habboxforum just keeps getting better!

Xiangu here and very happy :)

It might only be reputation but the point we're getting to is there was no point in reputation. They just ruined the system. They might aswell disable it.

le harry

01-01-2008, 03:09 AM

it went from 200 > 600...

I think everyone already knows that alwayshard m8.

I don't get you?

It might only be reputation but the point we're getting to is there was no point in reputation. They just ruined the system. They might aswell disable it.

It was never 100 points to get a rep power, it was 200.

@xP

01-01-2008, 03:12 AM

It was never 100 points to get a rep power, it was 200.

Oh..

200 was fine. If they wanted to rise it they should move it up to 250 to 300.
2500 posts was fine. I think we would of been happy with 3000 posts. And 365 days is fine. :S

They ruined the system.

Carbrini

01-01-2008, 03:16 AM

yeah its ruined

le harry

01-01-2008, 03:21 AM

Oh..

200 was fine. If they wanted to rise it they should move it up to 250 to 300.
2500 posts was fine. I think we would of been happy with 3000 posts. And 365 days is fine. :S

They ruined the system.

you're getting way too worked up about this, you've said the same thing spread out over like 150 posts and 10 threads.

Cixso

01-01-2008, 03:28 AM

MY OPINION is that Habbox are now slowly killing them selves with a decision.

It seems stupid, just over reputation, but the amount of people on this forum who do hard work for it is now pointless, they now need to make at least 450 people repping them before moving up a rep point.

What's the point any more?

It sounds childish, leaving over a forum but I don't blame people who do. I personally think this is the start of the end of Habbox Forum if things don't get put right.

Listen to your members who make you what you are Habbox. Stop doing what you think is right and do what a lot of people want for a change.

Too many people are making new forums which there friends are signing up too because of this decision, it sounds really pathetic but they are the guys that make you. ;)

With out them, what the hell are you?

Congratulations.

-Xiangu-

01-01-2008, 03:45 AM

I don't get you?

It might only be reputation but the point we're getting to is there was no point in reputation. They just ruined the system. They might aswell disable it.

it has not been ruined its just been scaled down.

edit: sarith. give me a point for it last time and its exactly the same as now.

you get given rep because of good posts, not for more rep power <--- before

you get given rep because of good posts, not for more rep power <---- now

so let me ask YOU this what is YOUR point?

@xP

01-01-2008, 03:50 AM

it's been narrowed down so it's virtually impossible to get rep.

-Xiangu-

01-01-2008, 03:54 AM

no you get rep for good posts still. rep power is just harder to get, therefore the people with higher rep power shows that they make alot of good posts to get the rep for. you still get rep it will just take longer to accumilate. whats the harm in that

le harry

01-01-2008, 05:01 AM

I think everyone already knows that alwayshard m8.

He was suggesting it went from 100 to 200 rep for a rep point, when it was already 200.. :P

Matty

01-01-2008, 05:48 AM

I'm confuddled how you care? It's a green block which is abused day in day out by idiots. Is it some huge goal to collect 3k rep points or something?

-Xiangu-

01-01-2008, 05:50 AM

I'm confuddled how you care? It's a green block which is abused day in day out by idiots. Is it some huge goal to collect 3k rep points or something?

completely agree its just a picture and some words.

Recursion

01-01-2008, 10:18 AM

Cixso

01-01-2008, 11:33 AM

it has not been ruined its just been scaled down.

edit: sarith. give me a point for it last time and its exactly the same as now.

you get given rep because of good posts, not for more rep power <--- before

you get given rep because of good posts, not for more rep power <---- now

so let me ask YOU this what is YOUR point?

Do you actually have any natural intelligence?

When we get repped, what do we hope to achieve?

A bigger reputation power and more green blocks.

What do you mean what is my point? Read my post above then?

Before you could get around 70-100 people to rep you once, now that has at least multiplied by 4-5 which makes it around 350-400+

People work there bums off to create a template JUST for rep, not it seems pointless as you need to wait for a year and a half maybe to get 1 rep power!!!

I'm doing what everybody else is doing and leaving to a new forum within time. Habbox sucks now. It really does. Not just because of the decision, only because everybody else is and there my friends.

-Xiangu-

01-01-2008, 01:06 PM

Do you actually have any natural intelligence?

When we get repped, what do we hope to achieve?

A bigger reputation power and more green blocks.

What do you mean what is my point? Read my post above then?

Before you could get around 70-100 people to rep you once, now that has at least multiplied by 4-5 which makes it around 350-400+

People work there bums off to create a template JUST for rep, not it seems pointless as you need to wait for a year and a half maybe to get 1 rep power!!!

I'm doing what everybody else is doing and leaving to a new forum within time. Habbox sucks now. It really does. Not just because of the decision, only because everybody else is and there my friends.

all that has happened to rep is that the amount of points needed for a rep power has been changed. and in my opinion if you make something puyrely for rep then i find that quite sad.

and yes i do have intellegence thank you, i have enough not to care about some green blocks and a word on a screen

jrh2002

01-01-2008, 01:13 PM

How come we have Joshuar and Jrh don't like the idea that much, or have 'Better' idea's but Mad said at least once that all the admin's thoroughly agreed with the idea as they reached this decision as a compromise? That seems to be a lie.

Edit: How come 2 of my past infractions have disappeared. I had 2 infractions and 2 warnings, all expired but now 1 infraction and 1 warning has gone? :P

I really like the idea and to be honest I would be even tougher on the rep :o
After it was announced and all the fuss was kicked up I said it could have perhaps been introduced a little better but maybe on the next big changes they will be. :eusa_whis

-Xiangu-

01-01-2008, 02:19 PM

hopefully, habbox management can only learn from their mistakes. so the next big change will probably get introduced alot better

Cixso

01-01-2008, 02:23 PM

all that has happened to rep is that the amount of points needed for a rep power has been changed. and in my opinion if you make something puyrely for rep then i find that quite sad.

and yes i do have intellegence thank you, i have enough not to care about some green blocks and a word on a screen

You are not seeing the actual point I made and just ignored most of what I just said.

hopefully, habbox management can only learn from their mistakes. so the next big change will probably get introduced alot better

How many errors do the management need again?

joshuar

01-01-2008, 02:24 PM

I was all up for the idea aswell, I never said I wasn't. Again like jrh I would have done things a bit differently, but not that much.

Everything new needs time to be developed, and like I said earlier in this thread I believe it was, this system is meant to be a small section of the forum, reducing rep power way way down, puts it back into the small section catergory, as now it doesn't have a massive input into peoples rep when you rep them.

-Xiangu-

01-01-2008, 02:28 PM

You are not seeing the actual point I made and just ignored most of what I just said.

How many errors do the management need again?

actually my post related to the most part of your thread

managment has only made a few mistakes. but everyone makes mistakes because no one is perfect. you cant honestly expect them not to make a few mistakes.

-:Undertaker:-

01-01-2008, 02:29 PM

If the problem was buying Reputation then why not just stop that? The people who bought are still higher than the people who never bought.

-Xiangu-

01-01-2008, 02:31 PM

having reputation for sale in he first place was a bad idea i think.

jrh2002

01-01-2008, 02:58 PM

having reputation for sale in he first place was a bad idea i think.

Rediculos decision lol I can only assume Jack was on drugs when he thought it up lol I hunted him down and punished him for it yesterday haha

JackHb

01-01-2008, 03:41 PM

Rediculos decision lol I can only assume Jack was on drugs when he thought it up lol I hunted him down and punished him for it yesterday haha

Haha charming.
I was not on drugs.

When we released it reputation points were not as much as a big thing as they are now. And not many people actually bought it.

Lets not all commit suicide over losing some reputation power now. If everyone has gone down then it aint much diff.

Also when I released it we had rules in place. I don't know if they were still followed when me seacat and whoever else dealt with it at the time left:

We dont sell to anybody who already has more than 1000 rep
We will only sell a maximum of 540 Reputation Points to one forum account.

We do not allow people to buy rep if they have over 1000 reputation points already due to us not wanting people to have a huge rep power which could cause problems with other members.

jrh2002

01-01-2008, 03:58 PM

Haha charming.
I was not on drugs.

When we released it reputation points were not as much as a big thing as they are now. And not many people actually bought it.

Lets not all commit suicide over losing some reputation power now. If everyone has gone down then it aint much diff.

Also when I released it we had rules in place. I don't know if they were still followed when me seacat and whoever else dealt with it at the time left:

We dont sell to anybody who already has more than 1000 rep
We will only sell a maximum of 540 Reputation Points to one forum account.

We do not allow people to buy rep if they have over 1000 reputation points already due to us not wanting people to have a huge rep power which could cause problems with other members.

I agree with all you have said especially about the over reaction :o
If we could see into the future when making decisions we would never make many we do in whatever we do.

Anybody who is so deeply affected by this you can always use my advice

ChildLine is the free helpline for children and young people in the UK. Children and young people can call us on 0800 1111 to talk about any problem – our counsellors are always here to help you sort it out.

I hear their lines are jammed with hxf members threatening to do themselves in over green blocks.

Soil

01-01-2008, 03:59 PM

ChildLine is the free helpline for children and young people in the UK. Children and young people can call us on 0800 1111 to talk about any problem – our counsellors are always here to help you sort it out.

I hear their lines are jammed with hxf members threatening to do themselves in over green blocks.

Hahahah that made me laugh! +rep

Catzsy

01-01-2008, 04:00 PM

Haha charming.
I was not on drugs.

When we released it reputation points were not as much as a big thing as they are now. And not many people actually bought it.

Lets not all commit suicide over losing some reputation power now. If everyone has gone down then it aint much diff.

Also when I released it we had rules in place. I don't know if they were still followed when me seacat and whoever else dealt with it at the time left:

We dont sell to anybody who already has more than 1000 rep
We will only sell a maximum of 540 Reputation Points to one forum account.

We do not allow people to buy rep if they have over 1000 reputation points already due to us not wanting people to have a huge rep power which could cause problems with other members.

I would say Jack that those rules were not followed as I have had a few requests to buy rep in excess on 540. Perhaps they were just overlooked by mistake.

Quote by JRH2002 agree with all you have said especially about the over reaction :o
If we could see into the future when making decisions we would never make many we do in whatever we do.

Anybody who is so deeply affected by this you can always use my advice

ChildLine is the free helpline for children and young people in the UK. Children and young people can call us on 0800 1111 to talk about any problem – our counsellors are always here to help you sort it out.

I hear their lines are jammed with hxf members threatening to do themselves in over green blocks.

Got to be the most humerous post of the year so far! hahahaha! Having said that James its only January 1st. xx

fweggy

01-01-2008, 04:13 PM

The more threads that are made - the better the point is made i think :)

It needs to get reversed - The reason for it is to make people have less rep power and to make people feel they have earned it. But its not different. Before u had to get lik 10 rep power to feel good, now u need 1. All it does is lower peoples rep power for no reason?

Blob

01-01-2008, 04:17 PM

jrh2002

01-01-2008, 04:18 PM

The more threads that are made - the better the point is made i think :)

The more made the more we all repeat ourselves and the more chance the issue just drifts of down the forums.

It needs to get reversed - The reason for it is to make people have less rep power and to make people feel they have earned it. But its not different. Before u had to get lik 10 rep power to feel good, now u need 1. All it does is lower peoples rep power for no reason?

It won't be going back to how it was but there are still options for change and after how alot have reacted I am all for everybody over 100 posts getting their first rep power and thats it :o unless ppl get more power depending on their time here.

Soil

01-01-2008, 04:19 PM

It needs to be reversed.

If you think about it, people look to rep for respect. When trading, sometimes is based on your rep, the amount of blocks you got, or your power. Now with 1 block per 1000 rep, you will get about 2 blocks every 10 years. Trading could go down, just like this forum will.

The forum went downhill since MAD took over so that isnt a surprise.

--ss--

01-01-2008, 04:20 PM

It needs to be reversed.

If you think about it, people look to rep for respect. When trading, sometimes is based on your rep, the amount of blocks you got, or your power. Now with 1 block per 1000 rep, you will get about 2 blocks every 10 years. Trading could go down, just like this forum will.
You can actually still tell how much rep someone has , Rep amount isn't always a safe way of telling if someone is safe, they could of just bought it all?