Need a rule change ... your OPINIONS please.

[Soil]

Dear Saurav,

You have received an infraction at Habbox UK Forum.

Reason: Accusing/naming anyone of lying/scamming/hacking or any other bad things.
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Please do not accuse people of doing things.

I just got a infraction for the above for this post: http://habboxforum.com/showpost.php?...2&postcount=42

Err the end bit of that infraction is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. So I could get an infraction for this?:

User: I OWN GOOGLE
me: No you dont, please dont lie

Because I am accusing someone of lieing :S Also "any other bad things" - what about negative feedback?!!? If someone asked for our opinion and I said it wasnt good, I could get an infraction?

MAD just gave me a infraction for that post :S Gosh the arrogant kid really cant take criticism.

That rule really needs changing.

MAD should infract himself for saying "That post is totally useless to me.". It comes under "other bad things".

I honestly dont care about my infraction, but the rules I have seen over the last few days are stupid. Its as if you cant make a negative comment about anyone.

MAD - please dont move this to the complaints forum as I want other people's opinions.


Edited by ---MAD--- (General Manager): Thread closed. Please report infraction problems here.

I am not appealing against a infraction problem though? I am asking for a rule change and asking the members for their opinions. Stop being a power freak and read the thread properly. You seem to close all threads which criticize you.

[-Xiangu-]

it seems you are targetting mad specifically in most of your posts. he does his job. your thread was not needed. you can accuse people of stuff if you have SUFFICIENT evidence against them.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Accusing someone who says they own google of lying is common sence really, and that is the thing that this forum lacks.

[Hazza]

Accusing someone who says they own google of lying is common sence really, and that is the thing that this forum lacks.
Lollll. Yeah.

I OWN HABBO HOTEL not lying or ne thing ppl.

[--ss--]

You can get away with accusing of 'lying or bad things' to a certain extent , if the person you are accusing of lying is like for the example you posted and is obvious it's a joke/lie then I guess you can get away with it, Where as if you say something like they edited their rep then you are trying to make them look bad and if you did say something like that in the street/in real life you'd probably get punched in the face ;)

Anyway how've you been Saurav ?

[Soil]

You can get away with accusing of 'lying or bad things' to a certain extent , if the person you are accusing of lying is like for the example you posted and is obvious it's a joke/lie then I guess you can get away with it, Where as if you say something like they edited their rep then you are trying to make them look bad and if you did say something like that in the street/in real life you'd probably get punched in the face ;)

Anyway how've you been Saurav ?

I have been infracted even when I make it obvious when I am joking though :P

I've been good, you?

[Mr.OSH]

I have been told not too long ago that it was likely the "accusing of lying" would be removed from the rule due to it being too harsh however I'm not sure if that has come into place or not yet but I agree that it should, I know it was discussed prior to this thread and I don't give infractions or warnings for that offence at the moment unless it breaks other rules in the post or is rude also. I think we are pending that rule to be changed but I may not be correct, I did bring up the fact this needed to be changed at a meeting not too long ago but it has not come into effect yet as far as I am aware. Also the infraction ---MAD--- gave you was rude and breaks that rule so therefore it is fair. The other comment for saying things like "You don't own good, your lying" as long as it is not rude I wouldn't deem that infraction worthy and I feel that this infraction should be changed to remove the "lying" bit of it however accusing people of lying in a rude way or of things deemed to be "bad" should be kept as it isn't fair that other members can accuse each other of bad things. As for ---MAD---'s post it was not rude and did not accuse you of anything, he wasn't accusing or naming you he was simply explain that post wasn't useful and explained that to make it useful you have to explain and give constructive criticism, that certainly didn't break the rules.

[Soil]

I have been told not too long ago that it was likely the "accusing of lying" would be removed from the rule due to it being too harsh however I'm not sure if that has come into place or not yet but I agree that it should, I know it was discussed prior to this thread and I don't give infractions or warnings for that offence at the moment unless it breaks other rules in the post or is rude also. I think we are pending that rule to be changed but I may not be correct, I did bring up the fact this needed to be changed at a meeting not too long ago but it has not come into effect yet as far as I am aware. Also the infraction ---MAD--- gave you was rude and breaks that rule so therefore it is fair. However the other infraction can be looked into as it is quite harsh although at this time the rule still stands.

Thanks for the comment. I dont care I got an infraction but the rules just harsh.

[Mr.OSH]

Thanks for the comment. I dont care I got an infraction but the rules just harsh.

:) I'll see if there is going to be this change or not, last time I check it was going to come into place but I just don't think it has yet. I do feel the rule needs looking at and rephrasing as it can be quite misleading at the moment and quite hard to pin down who broke it without being harsh. As I've said I did want this rule to be looked at and I'm sure it is being considered and hopefully it will be changed or at least the "lying" part of it will be removed/rephrased.

[Aflux]

it seems you are targetting mad specifically in most of your posts. he does his job. your thread was not needed. you can accuse people of stuff if you have SUFFICIENT evidence against them.
It seems like ---MAD--- is targeting Saurav to be honest.

[Digital]

This forums went wayyyy down hill............ Its like being at school :\ I only ever come on for the computer forums nd stuff :P

[Lycan]

so in theory i could say i own this forum, and if anyone was to correct me and say i was lying in any form then they would have to be cautioned regarding it... which of course applies to all thoose registered on the forum, so say if Mad corrected me then he would have to caution himself.

[Soil]

so in theory i could say i own this forum, and if anyone was to correct me and say i was lying in any form then they would have to be cautioned regarding it... which of course applies to all thoose registered on the forum, so say if Mad corrected me then he would have to caution himself.

Thats correct.
I am an admin here and I own habboxforum :) Oh btw MAD is my clone account but I just dont tell people.

[Digital]

I own HabboxForum :)

[Aflux]

I agree with the new reputation system.

[Lycan]

I agree with the new reputation system.

thats fantastic, whats that got to do with the thread?

[Soil]

thats fantastic, whats that got to do with the thread?

He is actually lying but you cannot say he is as its against the forum rules and MAD will hunt you down.

[Lycan]

He is actually lying but you cannot say he is as its against the forum rules and MAD will hunt you down.
lol, that went straight over my head, makes sense now

[GommeInc]

You can get away with accusing of 'lying or bad things' to a certain extent , if the person you are accusing of lying is like for the example you posted and is obvious it's a joke/lie then I guess you can get away with it, Where as if you say something like they edited their rep then you are trying to make them look bad and if you did say something like that in the street/in real life you'd probably get punched in the face ;)

Anyway how've you been Saurav ?
There is no 'to an extent' with Habbox Forum. You are either accusing of lying or not accusing of lying. There is no inbetween. You get told off for pointing out someone is lying with proof, for example when I said someone who was obviously lying when they mentioned their doctor phoning them up at 10pm to tell them they had cancer. I know for a fact that no place can you that information over the hone. You have to meet the doctor in person, unless that doctor is a rebel and is breaking hundreds of rules. I got that infraction/warning removed in the end, but it shows loads of super moderators/moderators/admins are in auto pilot and are not taking the blindest bit of notice to facts and the obvious...

Also, whoever the liar is needs to be warned not to lie, and given a bigger punishment that the one accusing of lying, because the way the moderators act, anyone who starts an argument needs to be told off, with a warning or infraction, because that;s how moderators and the like run around here...

WHoever writes the rules needs to take about an hour of their time to edit them. Loads of rules are not needed and loads can be combined into one rule or shortened.

[Aflux]

lol, that went straight over my head, makes sense now
You are a very clever boy (:

[Soil]

You are a very clever boy (:

please dont lie. dammit now i am gonna get infracted!

[Elkaa]

please dont lie. dammit now i am gonna get infracted!

This infraction was flagged up some time ago to be looked into, and will be once the new year celebrations end.

[Superman]

lol I own Google

anyway yeah I'm not a massive fan of this rule, it makes sense that you shouldn't be allowed to go around slandering people or naming scammers or whatever so I agree that it's needed, but not that long ago I got an infraction for calling Harry a liar about something when we were joking around. I didn't mind as 1 point isn't going to kill me but it did concern me that the background of the conversation wasn't looked into or anything

[GommeInc]

lol I own Google

anyway yeah I'm not a massive fan of this rule, it makes sense that you shouldn't be allowed to go around slandering people or naming scammers or whatever so I agree that it's needed, but not that long ago I got an infraction for calling Harry a liar about something when we were joking around. I didn't mind as 1 point isn't going to kill me but it did concern me that the background of the conversation wasn't looked into or anything
I think there should be a rule that if a Moderator/Super Moderator gives out too many pointless infractions circuling around not reading the whole conversation, they should be fired, or given warnings then fired. Because this forum was for fun and discussions which you could talk freely about without worrying about some silly moderator giving a silly warning that makes no sense in context. Now it just seems you can't have a sense of humour or talk to friends in a calm, relaxed environment.

[Soil]

Now it just seems you can't have a sense of humour or talk to friends in a calm, relaxed environment.

Its impossible to do that if your GM lacks common sense and closes any threads which say something bad about him. I made this exact thread and he closed it with the reason "Please report infraction problems here: insertlinkhere"
Does this guy even read the threads or just love closing every thread possible? Habboxforum has gone downhill since he became admin. The guy comes up with the stupidest excuses and rules.

[GommeInc]

I agree to some extent. But loads of the SMs seem to like closing threads and warning people with no reason.

[-Xiangu-]

Its impossible to do that if your GM lacks common sense and closes any threads which say something bad about him. I made this exact thread and he closed it with the reason "Please report infraction problems here: insertlinkhere"
Does this guy even read the threads or just love closing every thread possible? Habboxforum has gone downhill since he became admin. The guy comes up with the stupidest excuses and rules.


mad has plenty of common sense, probably even more than you
he closes threads which do not need a discussion
he reads the threads then makes an informed decision
the rules have been there for ages and im sure the rules are discussed by management as a whole before any are put in place. you just need to actually rresearch a bit before making outrageous comments and being rude about people

[Soil]

mad has plenty of common sense, probably even more than you
he closes threads which do not need a discussion
he reads the threads then makes an informed decision
the rules have been there for ages and im sure the rules are discussed by management as a whole before any are put in place. you just need to actually rresearch a bit before making outrageous comments and being rude about people

If he has common sense, or read threads etc he wouldnt have closed this
http://habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=440092

Half the rules have been changed since he took over. I am not sure if you were a member here a year ago, if you were you would know it was much better back then.

[GommeInc]

mad has plenty of common sense, probably even more than you
he closes threads which do not need a discussion
he reads the threads then makes an informed decision
the rules have been there for ages and im sure the rules are discussed by management as a whole before any are put in place. you just need to actually rresearch a bit before making outrageous comments and being rude about people

He closes threads which are in the centre of a discussion which has alot to do with the way the forum is run and at the moment, it seems loads of people are concerned about it and discussing what MAD and loads of others should do to make it better.
He doesn't read the threads very well if he closes them mid-discussion. He doesn't even give a good reason or say what he thinks and whether or not the ideas will be taken on board and used, other than when he thinks so, not what a majority of others think so "/
The rules have been heavily edited for the worse and who cares if they are discussed by management? Some of them don't even make sense! Anymore new and barmy rules should be discussed in the furutre, to see what people with some thought think (not the idiots will will agree and disgree without thinking about both sides).
Research has been done, look at the threads in this forum. This forum is dreadful compared to what people want or what it used to be.

[The Professor]

He closes threads which are in the centre of a discussion which has alot to do with the way the forum is run and at the moment, it seems loads of people are concerned about it and discussing what MAD and loads of others should do to make it better.
He doesn't read the threads very well if he closes them mid-discussion. He doesn't even give a good reason or say what he thinks and whether or not the ideas will be taken on board and used, other than when he thinks so, not what a majority of others think so "/

To be fair, most of the threads closed "in mid discussion" are in reality having the same points repeated over and over again, or have gone offotopic completely and turned into a casual conversation between 2 or 3 members about the possible mating habits of a T-rex or something absurd like that. However, most of these threads do begin with a valid point and I feel most of these are largely ignored, something which needs to be worked on :)

[GommeInc]

To be fair, most of the threads closed "in mid discussion" are in reality having the same points repeated over and over again, or have gone offotopic completely and turned into a casual conversation between 2 or 3 members about the possible mating habits of a T-rex or something absurd like that. However, most of these threads do begin with a valid point and I feel most of these are largely ignored, something which needs to be worked on :)
If the same points are raised, it just shows how serious this matter must be taken, especially if the same points are raised by loads of different users.

[Soil]

Unfortunately MAD doesnt really care what we think though.

[Hitman]

I just got a infraction for the above for this post: http://habboxforum.com/showpost.php?...2&postcount=42

Err the end bit of that infraction is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. So I could get an infraction for this?:

User: I OWN GOOGLE
me: No you dont, please dont lie

Because I am accusing someone of lieing :S Also "any other bad things" - what about negative feedback?!!? If someone asked for our opinion and I said it wasnt good, I could get an infraction?

MAD just gave me a infraction for that post :S Gosh the arrogant kid really cant take criticism.

That rule really needs changing.

MAD should infract himself for saying "That post is totally useless to me.". It comes under "other bad things".

I honestly dont care about my infraction, but the rules I have seen over the last few days are stupid. Its as if you cant make a negative comment about anyone.

MAD - please dont move this to the complaints forum as I want other people's opinions.



I am not appealing against a infraction problem though? I am asking for a rule change and asking the members for their opinions. Stop being a power freak and read the thread properly. You seem to close all threads which criticize you.Can you fix the link I want to see the post. :P

[Soil]

http://habboxforum.com/showpost.php?p=4311232&postcount=42

[The Professor]

If the same points are raised, it just shows how serious this matter must be taken, especially if the same points are raised by loads of different users.

Agreed, but the thread therefore exists purely for post count; it has ceased offering constructive comments and there are therefore grounds for closure :)

[GommeInc]

Agreed, but the thread therefore exists purely for post count; it has ceased offering constructive comments and there are therefore grounds for closure :)
How does it exist purely for post count when if more points are rasied by different members, even if the same comment has been said? More members posting saying 'I agree that this doesn't work' means another member disagrees which is a foundation to work off of to improve how the forum is run. It's only there for post count if the same members repeat the same comment. Besides, I think worrying about post counts is the last thing management need to worry about when threads like this arise.

[Catzsy]

mad has plenty of common sense, probably even more than you
he closes threads which do not need a discussion
he reads the threads then makes an informed decision
the rules have been there for ages and im sure the rules are discussed by management as a whole before any are put in place. you just need to actually rresearch a bit before making outrageous comments and being rude about people

I have to say you are beginning to annoy me a bit now not because you are not entitled to your opinions but as you havent been here very long and seem to know everything about the forum and all about MAD. I am very confused as how you know all this. Wouldn't surprise me if the GM himself wasn't embarrassed reading this. Of course I maybe wrong and you may have been here quite a lot time but with different accounts. If this is the case please accept my apologies. :)

Alex as far as I remember there are only 3 grounds for closure as laid down by Sierk.1. Inappropriate threads i.e. the subject matter is not suitable and its usually done virtually straightaway or 2. because of arguments and rule breaking not because somebody thinks a post is not contructive. How would you define that one? 3. A Vip can close a thread of their own at anytime

[Soil]

Alex as far as I remember there are only 3 grounds for closure as laid down by Sierk.1. Inappropriate threads i.e. the subject matter is not suitable and its usually done virtually straightaway or 2. because of arguments and rule breaking not because somebody thinks a post is not contructive. How would you define that one? 3. A Vip can close a thread of their own at anytime

So MAD decided to close my thread because he lacks common sense / doesnt follow the rules / i criticisized him?

[Superman]

No it was probably seen as innappropriate due to the hundreds of identical threads.

[Soil]

No it was probably seen as innappropriate due to the hundreds of identical threads.

My thread was on a different topic though

[Catzsy]

So MAD decided to close my thread because he lacks common sense / doesnt follow the rules / i criticisized him?

Well I can't say as the thread has been moved out of the public forum.
Was there loads of spam in it? Also things may be different now. Best to ask somebody who is up to date with the instructions on closure.

[Soil]

Well I can't say as the thread has been moved out of the public forum.
Was there loads of spam in it? Also things may be different now. Best to ask somebody who is up to date with the instructions on closure.

It was this thread ... http://habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=440092

[Catzsy]

It was this thread ... http://habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=440092

Okay well he has classed its as inappropriate because there is a specified section to complain about infractions however you are calling for a rule change citing this as an example so its a bit 50/50. Personally I would give this one up as a bad job as you have criticised him personally e.g calling him arrogant rather than his actions. By the way if you feel he has been rude to you report it - I have in the past. But that is just my opinion :)

[Soil]

Okay well he has classed its as inappropriate because there is a specified section to complain about infractions however you are calling for a rule change citing this as an example so its a bit 50/50. Personally I would give this one up as a bad job as you have criticised him personally e.g calling him arrogant rather than his actions. By the way if you feel he has been rude to you report it - I have in the past. But that is just my opinion :)

I reported him and he laughed and etc. He is just a rude kid.
And I did say in the thread I wasnt complaining about my infraction ;) So he had no right to close it.

[Catzsy]

I reported him and he laughed and etc. He is just a rude kid.
And I did say in the thread I wasnt complaining about my infraction ;) So he had no right to close it.

Well depends who you report it to I guess. :)

[bo$$]

it seems you are targetting mad specifically in most of your posts. he does his job. your thread was not needed. you can accuse people of stuff if you have SUFFICIENT evidence against them.

Not here you can't

[---MAD---]

I reported him and he laughed and etc. He is just a rude kid.
And I did say in the thread I wasnt complaining about my infraction ;) So he had no right to close it.
We have every right to modify any threads/posts you make in anyway and it clearly states that in the term and conditions. If you do not agree with the term and conditions let me know via PM.

[WarezKid]

We have every right to modify any threads/posts you make in anyway and it clearly states that in the term and conditions. If you do not agree with the term and conditions let me know via PM.

I don't agree with it. :)

[Elkaa]

I don't agree with it. :)

You shouldn't be on the forum then. If you don't agree to them, you can't use the forum.

[WarezKid]

You shouldn't be on the forum then. If you don't agree to them, you can't use the forum.

Oh soz,

Am dumb!

Anyways, this forum need it rules changing


ALOT.

[Catzsy]

We have every right to modify any threads/posts you make in anyway and it clearly states that in the term and conditions. If you do not agree with the term and conditions let me know via PM.

To be fair this is what is says:

- We can (WITHOUT ANY PRIOR NOTICE) edit, move, delete, duplicated or publish any of your posted content because as soon as it is posted, you are the author of the content, but it becomes property of Habbox UK Forum.

There is nothing in the terms and conditions that says you have the right to close the threads. All actions allowed in the terms and conditions are governed by specific instructions anyway either by Sierk, yourself or the Forum Manager. If what you say is true anybody employed by Habbox that has moderation rites are only constrained by the T&C and we know that is not true.

[Bomb-Head]

You shouldn't be on the forum then. If you don't agree to them, you can't use the forum.

Elk, that's slightly rude? You could have asked for his input on why he doesn't like them and see if anything could be changed :)

[WarezKid]

Elk, that's slightly rude? You could have asked for his input on why he doesn't like them and see if anything could be changed :)


Thanks Bomb-head. I just dont see why you resigned Forum mod, your such a nice person :). We need more people like you! ;).

[Stephen]

Thanks Bomb-head. I just dont see why you resigned Forum mod, your such a nice person :). We need more people like you! ;).

*cough* Suck up *cough*

Yeah the rules need changing

[WarezKid]

*cough* Suck up *cough*

Yeah the rules need changing



It true :).

They didn't ask did they? It like they don't care about us? I feel ashamed about this forum :'(

[Catzsy]

People follow what they perceive as good examples and Elkaa is normally pretty diplomatic. Try to stay the way you always have been Elkaa for the members good :) I have also noticed that another admin has got quite impatient and sharp lately and I feel he is under quite a bit of stress but its not nice when the members are at the end of it. :(

[Stephen]

Yeah its like starwars tbh.. Once someones staff theres a 50% chance they will start to go to the darkside

[WarezKid]

Yeah its like starwars tbh.. Once someones staff theres a 50% chance they will start to go to the darkside


Good way of saying it tbh!

[Bomb-Head]

Thanks Bomb-head. I just dont see why you resigned Forum mod, your such a nice person :). We need more people like you! ;).

Thanks Nemo :)

I agree with Catzsy - Elkaa is usually patient and listens to peoples ideas, which is why it was odd to see him basically say 'shut up, or put up'.

[buttons]

DAVID!!
Y RESIGN.
noz.
ur da onli decent 1 hr.

[The Professor]

How does it exist purely for post count when if more points are rasied by different members, even if the same comment has been said? More members posting saying 'I agree that this doesn't work' means another member disagrees which is a foundation to work off of to improve how the forum is run. It's only there for post count if the same members repeat the same comment. Besides, I think worrying about post counts is the last thing management need to worry about when threads like this arise.
Members repeating the same comment is usually how the thread turns out; once the point has been made, argued, exhausted and supported it offers nothing more in the way of constructive comments.


Alex as far as I remember there are only 3 grounds for closure as laid down by Sierk.1. Inappropriate threads i.e. the subject matter is not suitable and its usually done virtually straightaway or 2. because of arguments and rule breaking not because somebody thinks a post is not contructive. How would you define that one? 3. A Vip can close a thread of their own at anytime
I stand corrected, I am not a moderator and have therefore never read their code of practice. Maybe it would be an idea to make that code of practice public, as it seems to outline rules not displayed in the forum rules viewable by everyone.

[JackHb]

I hate how people question the admins such as there rep power and why they have closed a thread.

They are the admins, they run the forum, not you - So if they want to close one of your threads because they do not think it is right then they can.
They are far to lenient with some of you these days.

Alot of you just set out to cause problems and question the admins decisions, maybe its your idea of fun.
For example that LiquidAcid guy, his signature is saying he is breaking the rules and to infract him, they should just ban him if he is breaking the rules purposley. No offence to the guy im just pointing out how some of you go out of your way to be a pain.

[reindeer.]

is obvious it's a joke/lie then I guess you can get away with it
i didn't
i said someone scammed 828423 thrones off me and got infractioned for it ;l

[Catzsy]

[QUOTE=JackHb;4317035]I hate how people question the admins such as there rep power and why they have closed a thread.

They are the admins, they run the forum, not you - So if they want to close one of your threads because they do not think it is right then they can.
They are far to lenient with some of you these days.

Yes well Jack if the rules and T&Cs were changed to say that it would be fair enough. I always thought that they ran the forum for the benifit of the members? Are you saying when you were here you could just close a thread without adhering the owners directions in the matter?

The forum used to be a lot more lenient than it is now.

[JackHb]

Yes well Jack if the rules and T&Cs were changed to say that it would be fair enough. I always thought that they ran the forum for the benifit of the members? Are you saying when you were here you could just close a thread without adhering the owners directions in the matter?

The forum used to be a lot more lenient than it is now.

I doubt anyone on here apart from the odd few actually read the rules and terms and conditions otherwise there wouldnt be so many infractions going around.
And I always think if you have a problem with the rules or T&C then it is best to just PM the asm or whoever.

The forum is for the benefit of the members, however a large majority of members abuse that.

I would close a thread if i felt it was not going to do any good for any members or was going to cause problems.
When you moderate/administrate for so long you can tell what the thread is going to turn out like. I am not even sure what thread your all talking about though, to many pages to read.
My edit on his thread would tell the owner what he has done wrong.

[Infrontation]

The rule is too general. HxF is run with too strict rules imo, but hey thats just my opinion.

[Catzsy]

I doubt anyone on here apart from the odd few actually read the rules and terms and conditions otherwise there wouldnt be so many infractions going around.
And I always think if you have a problem with the rules or T&C then it is best to just PM the asm or whoever.

The forum is for the benefit of the members, however a large majority of members abuse that.

Hmmmm more than a slight exaggeration here I think... I do not think this at all - can you be more specific

I would close a thread if i felt it was not going to do any good for any members or was going to cause problems.

Problems for who exactly? Jack

When you moderate/administrate for so long you can tell what the thread is going to turn out like. I am not even sure what thread your all talking about though, to many pages to read.

Yes well I did moderate for quite a while myself and its true you do tend to know but I used to keep an eye on it and wait to see if in fact it did break the guidlines before closure. Also most regular members do keep up with threads and they don't have to reply if they are not interested.
My edit on his thread would tell the owner what he has done wrong.

Well by all means close a thread and tell the thread starter what they have done wrong but every forum has to have its own guidelines and rules or there would be complete chaos. If you can't avoid the filter because there is a rule saying so then a thread should not be closed without a proper reason which is agreed by the owner/GM. Otherwise it there is no consistency of moderation and appears to be complete double standards.

[JackHb]

I just wrote loads but closed it by mistake.

Anyway I give up debating it, as it will just go back and for etc.

The GM wasnt admin at the time when I was here so we didnt have this stuff to worry about :p

[Catzsy]

I just wrote loads but closed it by mistake.

Anyway I give up debating it, as it will just go back and for etc.

The GM wasnt admin at the time when I was here so we didnt have this stuff to worry about :p

Well you are a good debator - Okay Happy New Year, Jack! xxx

[Soil]

The GM wasnt admin at the time when I was here so we didnt have this stuff to worry about :p

Why cant that be the case now? :(

[Superman]

To be fair to Elkaa, his post was entirely sensible. Members have to agree to the ToS when they sign up; if they disagree with it they shouldn't be ticking the box to say they do. Also on closing threads, the rule says they can edit them and closing is an editing process ^_^ However, this isn't the point of this thread - it's about banning for accusations and stuff.

[Catzsy]

To be fair to Elkaa, his post was entirely sensible. Members have to agree to the ToS when they sign up; if they disagree with it they shouldn't be ticking the box to say they do. Also on closing threads, the rule says they can edit them and closing is an editing process ^_^ However, this isn't the point of this thread - it's about banning for accusations and stuff.

Editing is not a closing process Tom. Editing and Closing are 2 completely different things . It would come under modification of the thread which isn't in the T&C's either. :)

Its is to do with the thread because its also about closure. Threads can evolve these days as long as they are constructive and to do with what has been discussed before. Changed about 18 months ago. Indeed --MAD-- himself bought up the T&Cs issue.
Link:
http://habboxforum.com/showpost.php?p=4315509&postcount=47

[Superman]

OH I didn't know about that one, I remember it being discussed but didn't know they'd actually decided to allow it. I'm well slow lol

[hollow.]

I agree MAD is arrogant and the forum has gone downhill since he took over. why does he ask for our opinions if he hates negative feedback? he thinks people will always agree with him.

[WarezKid]

It just got worst.

[GommeInc]

I swear the thread that just got removed was Habbox Feedback :S

It went a bit down hill just before MAD joined, so it's not entirely his fault.

[hollow.]

I swear the thread that just got removed was Habbox Feedback :S

It went a bit down hill just before MAD joined, so it's not entirely his fault.

99.9% of it is :)

[sierk1]

I think we need to change the rule so that it only says it's not allowed to accuse others of hacking or scamming. That is also why the rule was added in the first place, to stop arguments about this.