Repping 5 People a Day

[Catzsy]

Edited by jrh2002 (Assistant General Manager)
Threads by Catzsy and LiquidAciid Merged


I am not starting a new rep thread but this is what I think is a potential flaw in the new system.

I have been posting as normal on the site and repping as I usually do.

Some people I can but most people I can't because:

1. 5 reps a day is not nearly enough for a large forum like this.

2. Its going to take ages to rep the people on my list.

The problem with this is that by the time I can actually do it I will have forgotten the posts I was repping them on so what do I put - something like 'great post a couple of weeks ago' as I am certain that it could take that long. If I put that it could be seen as pointless rep. Other than that I will have to make a notepad file of all the posts and I don't think we should be expected to do that.

Whatever happens there is always going to be people that you rep more than others because of the quality of their posts and to be only able to rep them every 7 days or 30 other reps is not going to work also means that the intention of the rep system is not going to be fulfilled either.

Would you consider being a bit more lenient on this part please and allowing us to rep more a day and cut the amount of people from 30 down so we don't have to constantly spread?

Thanks :)



I just set this up as a continuation of Catzy's thread. This concerns the having a limit of repping 5 people a day.

Do you think it should be raised back to 10?
Do you think it should stay the same?

Feel free to post below by saying WHY you think each one. I really don't want this thread to become what the others are and having people arguing, spamming, etc.
This thread is to simply voice your opinion, nothing else.
Please don't say "I don't care" or something like that.. because in this thread that doesn't matter. It's either a yes or a no.

[Paulio]

I don't really rep people but I can see what you mean. you should get atleast 10 if not more.

[mat64]

In your case it does seema bit low as I can see how it stacks up. To be honest I've only repped about 3 people since the change which is alot less than before so it's abit like the new system has discouraged me from handing out rep willy nilly but then again if we can only give out 5 a day we are going to use them carefully :), Interesting point though.

[Mr.Sam]

why doesn't the amount you can rep tie in with user ranks?

like rank1 can rep 5 people
rank 2 can rep 6..

etc

[Catzsy]

In your case it does seema bit low as I can see how it stacks up. To be honest I've only repped about 3 people since the change which is alot less than before so it's abit like the new system has discouraged me from handing out rep willy nilly but then again if we can only give out 5 a day we are going to use them carefully :), Interesting point though.

I have never repped anybody that I didn't think deserved a rep and do not hand them out willy nilly. Thanks:)

[bo$$]

I don't really have a problem with the new rep system, but really it's exactly like the old.. except instead of like. 1000 rep points being 7 rep or w/e it is, its lower.

Like you pointed out though.. the only real problem I have with it is repping 5 people within 24 hours. It shouldn't have moved that down from 10. If it was going to be moved, it shoulda been raised up more imo.

[Immenseman]

Yeah, the 5 people per day thing is really annoying. As if you genuienly wanted to give valid reputation out to good well thought out decent posts on the forum like I and i'm sure other people tend to you see way more then five per day. I think you should be able to rep at least 10 people per day and I agree they should consider upping the number as it gets rather annoying when you constantly see 'You've given too much rep out'.

[@xP]

why doesn't the amount you can rep tie in with user ranks?

like rank1 can rep 5 people
rank 2 can rep 6..

etc

I don't think you can do that. Howver nice idea.

I think the reputation system should be renewed. It's something i don't agree on. However, it's up to forum management. :)

[GommeInc]

They lowered the amount of times you can rep members a day? Lol oh dear, who's crazy idea was that? A forum which has nearly 1000 users a day, and they only allow 5 people to receive rep from a single member? What a crazy and thoughtless number... No thought has clearly been put into this.

[bo$$]

I think that their attempt to stop pointless rep.. is going to backfire.

When you had to rep 10 people a day, there was less need to have the "I owe rep to : _______" thing. But since theres 5, thats half the amount of people, therefore instead of spending one day 'pointless' repping to get to the next, you're now spending 2 days.

I think that it makes people pointless rep more. Other then that it's fine. Wasn't the amount of people you had to rep before you got to the same person also raised? or did that stay the same

[jrh2002]

I can see your point and I also it makes you rep for posts you would normally leave alone. When I was a member I would rep less deserving posts so that I could get around to repping the people I wanted to rep in the first place. It will be nice to see some more opinions on this.

[bo$$]

I just set this up as a continuation of Catzy's thread. This concerns the having a limit of repping 5 people a day.

Do you think it should be raised back to 10?
Do you think it should stay the same?

Feel free to post below by saying WHY you think each one. I really don't want this thread to become what the others are and having people arguing, spamming, etc.
This thread is to simply voice your opinion, nothing else.
Please don't say "I don't care" or something like that.. because in this thread that doesn't matter. It's either a yes or a no.

[dannyisnotamazing]

Can people not just get over it

[jrh2002]

I think you should be allowed as many as you like but your rep power only go up over time and not by amoiunt of posts you have or positive rep you receive.

You need a not bothered really as some people really don't care either way and it would be nice to see the amount with that opinion.

[reindeer.]

i think it should be lowered to 7 reps a week.

[bo$$]

Can people not just get over it

Exactly what I didn't want here. Obviously some people care and some don't. If you don't then simply don't post.

[-:Undertaker:-]

I think anybody should be able to give out as many reps as they want seeing as it's their account and their reputation.

[jesus]

its funny how the admins are SO bothered about the rep system

[joshuar]

its funny how the admins are SO bothered about the rep system

I wouldn't say all admins & management are bothered (course I can only speak on my part), but it seems that the members are more bothered. Have you seen the amount of threads about it lately?

[jesus]

I wouldn't say all admins & management are bothered (course I can only speak on my part), but it seems that the members are more bothered. Have you seen the amount of threads about it lately?yeah i have, but if it wasnt for most of the admins getting all worked up over it when its not doing anyone any harm then the community would still be a pleasant one to be part of

[Blue]

What I would like to see happen, is for certain parts of the forum eg. Graphics and Alterations, the rep you give out should be limited to 15 a day, mainly to rep good alts. But in other areas, eg. Spam, it should be limited to say 3 a day or something along those lines

[dannyisnotamazing]

What I would like to see happen, is for certain parts of the forum eg. Graphics and Alterations, the rep you give out should be limited to 15 a day, mainly to rep good alts. But in other areas, eg. Spam, it should be limited to say 3 a day or something along those lines
Yeah but people would just start posting in alts to get repped lol

[Blue]

:P urmm, what if you could only rep the thread starter?

[jesus]

:P urmm, what if you could only rep the thread starter?thats just complicated

[Roboevil]

I think you should be allowed as many as you like but your rep power only go up over time and not by amoiunt of posts you have or positive rep you receive.

You need a not bothered really as some people really don't care either way and it would be nice to see the amount with that opinion.

I half agree with that. It should be posts and how long you've been on the forum. Otherwise a load of inactive people who joined the forum years ago would have loads of rep power. Not that it would matter as they're inactive, but it just seems weird.
I think it just makes more sense having time, coupled with activity.

[JoeyK.]

I half agree with that. It should be posts and how long you've been on the forum. Otherwise a load of inactive people who joined the forum years ago would have loads of rep power. Not that it would matter as they're inactive, but it just seems weird.
I think it just makes more sense having time, coupled with activity.
Agreed, I think that to some degree it's unfair if old accounts that haven't been used for 3 years have a higher rep power than someone registered a year and a half ago with 5k more posts. However, if the owners of those accounts weren't still active, we'd never even see their rep power anyway, so I suppose it wouldn't matter much. I personally like jrh's suggested system, though I think it would have to be something along the lines of 1 rep power per 6 months if you cut out the other methods of getting rep power just to make it more balanced.

[jrh2002]

After your posts I do agree that just on time would not work :o people would make more accounts just to make sure they have backup if they were banned. maybe 1 point every 1000 post and 1 every 6 months.

[e5]

Yes, it should be raised

[graffiti]

*Text Removed*

Edited by opensourcehost (Forum Super Moderator): Please do not insult others.

[jesus]

After your posts I do agree that just on time would not work :o people would make more accounts just to make sure they have backup if they were banned. maybe 1 point every 1000 post and 1 every 6 months.can you put that forward to the other admins? and maybe 1 every 400/500 points or something?

[Catzsy]

Yes I think it should be raised - is it possible this thread could be merged with mine so it makes more sense please?

Link:http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=441473

[Roboevil]

After your posts I do agree that just on time would not work :o people would make more accounts just to make sure they have backup if they were banned. maybe 1 point every 1000 post and 1 every 6 months.

Yeah, that seems a better idea. It shouldn't be anything to do with having rep, as it just means, the more people with rep, the more people will rep them because of their rep power, which means their power goes up and it just gets rediculous again.

[Catzsy]

Thanks for your positive imput, JRH. :)

[---MAD---]

why doesn't the amount you can rep tie in with user ranks?

like rank1 can rep 5 people
rank 2 can rep 6..

etc
Sadly that not possible but that is a nice suggestion.

I understand the problem and we will try and see what we can do about it but we need to be able to monitor the reputation system and crack down on pointless repping. It was getting so out of hand at least now its much more settled down since people don't want to waste their 5 reps a day.

One thing you could try is only giving posts to very good posts that really deserve it (such as big detailed helpful posts or good tutorials). That is what we really want people to be using the system for instead of things you generally agree with.

[Judge Judy]

I don't know if you can, but maybe do like 10 reps a day and spreading to people number less if you're a VIP, so like a new feature.

[bo$$]

Yes I think it should be raised - is it possible this thread could be merged with mine so it makes more sense please?

Link:http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=441473

Yes please merge.

[Jamesy]

to be honest I only give it out if it's worth it, so no change for me.

and I don't get given any because I turned it off, it's a lot free-er :)

[bo$$]

Sadly that not possible but that is a nice suggestion.

I understand the problem and we will try and see what we can do about it but we need to be able to monitor the reputation system and crack down on pointless repping. It was getting so out of hand at least now its much more settled down since people don't want to waste their 5 reps a day.

One thing you could try is only giving posts to very good posts that really deserve it (such as big detailed helpful posts or good tutorials). That is what we really want people to be using the system for instead of things you generally agree with.

When it comes to repping someone that you owe it to.. people don't care about wasting the 5 a day. It's just way more of a hassle then their needs to be and like it's been said, the GOOD posts aren't even getting the rep they deserve because people are 'worried of wasting the 5' as you say.

[Catzsy]

Sadly that not possible but that is a nice suggestion.

I understand the problem and we will try and see what we can do about it but we need to be able to monitor the reputation system and crack down on pointless repping. It was getting so out of hand at least now its much more settled down since people don't want to waste their 5 reps a day.

One thing you could try is only giving posts to very good posts that really deserve it (such as big detailed helpful posts or good tutorials). That is what we really want people to be using the system for instead of things you generally agree with.

Thanks for agreeing to look into it. Everybody is different though and what might be a really good post to one person is perhaps not to another. I am quite stingy with rep but feel it it particuarly important to reward newer members who maybe are younger and not so articulate but who will be the active articulate senior members of the future when we have left. Its good investment in the future of Habbox.

[GommeInc]

I don't see why the rep system needs to be heavily guarded, it's alot of effort for one thing which doesn't really need it... If people are unhappy about rep, they'll report it. It's unnecessary work for staff. Also, shouldn't the Forum Manager do the rep stuff, considering his job (self-explanatory) is to manage the forum?

[---MAD---]

I don't see why the rep system needs to be heavily guarded, it's alot of effort for one thing which doesn't really need it... If people are unhappy about rep, they'll report it. It's unnecessary work for staff. Also, shouldn't the Forum Manager do the rep stuff, considering his job (self-explanatory) is to manage the forum?
Yes but that many focuses on the moderation team aspect of the forum. Forum administrators on the other hand deal more with rep problems etc (ie nick-).

The FM cannot do everything as theres a lot of things that need to be on a daily basis.

[GommeInc]

Yes but that many focuses on the moderation team aspect of the forum. Forum administrators on the other hand deal more with rep problems etc (ie nick-).

The FM cannot do everything as theres a lot of things that need to be on a daily basis.
The first bit I didn't really understand... Do you mean people reporting the rep will target the moderation team as opposed to administrators? It is a wasted effort when people who do have issues can just simply report it, saving admins time and relaxing work load and issues when targets are not met.

Surely the FM should be announcing such changes? It is afterall his department and what are these things that take up alot of time and effort on a daily basis? Because that's what administrators and forum technicians are effectly meant for. To help an owner (or in this case, the Forum Manager) accomplish goals and tasks. That's what happened in the past on Habbox, at least.

[Black_Apalachi]

I don't understand why the rules are so heavy around rep. I understand the rule of not being able to rep the same person twice within a certain amount of time/amount of other rep given (I assume this is to avoid clones repping themselves over and over).

However, the only thing I can see that allowing only 5 reps a day avoids, is mass -rep. In that case, can't you restrict -rep more than +rep? I mean, I know that the rep I do give out consists a lot more of positive rather than negative.

Other than that, at the end of the day, who cares if positive rep is over used? It's not going to do anyone any harm, I mean, it's not like eBay where someone's reputation is extremely important is it?

[-:Undertaker:-]

I don't understand why the rules are so heavy around rep. I understand the rule of not being able to rep the same person twice within a certain amount of time/amount of other rep given (I assume this is to avoid clones repping themselves over and over).

However, the only thing I can see that allowing only 5 reps a day avoids, is mass -rep. In that case, can't you restrict -rep more than +rep? I mean, I know that the rep I do give out consists a lot more of positive rather than negative.

Other than that, at the end of the day, who cares if positive rep is over used? It's not going to do anyone any harm, I mean, it's not like eBay where someone's reputation is extremely important is it?

Agreed, at times it seems the reputation rules are above all other rules. People would rather a system which is not heavily guarded.


+rep even if it's useless.

[Hitman]

why doesn't the amount you can rep tie in with user ranks?

like rank1 can rep 5 people
rank 2 can rep 6..

etc
That's a good idea! :D I like it.

[jrh2002]

I don't understand why the rules are so heavy around rep. I understand the rule of not being able to rep the same person twice within a certain amount of time/amount of other rep given (I assume this is to avoid clones repping themselves over and over).

However, the only thing I can see that allowing only 5 reps a day avoids, is mass -rep. In that case, can't you restrict -rep more than +rep? I mean, I know that the rep I do give out consists a lot more of positive rather than negative.

Other than that, at the end of the day, who cares if positive rep is over used? It's not going to do anyone any harm, I mean, it's not like eBay where someone's reputation is extremely important is it?

I think the rep system does get more attention than it should and also agree that if a rep is positive and not hurting the member you give it to its no big deal :o


Agreed, at times it seems the reputation rules are above all other rules. People would rather a system which is not heavily guarded.


+rep even if it's useless.

Getting a nice comment over your post is enough and the points with it should not really bother people. I have had a few reps off people with no rep power and they are just as good as a rep off somebody with 30 rep power.

[---MAD---]

I don't understand why the rules are so heavy around rep. I understand the rule of not being able to rep the same person twice within a certain amount of time/amount of other rep given (I assume this is to avoid clones repping themselves over and over).

However, the only thing I can see that allowing only 5 reps a day avoids, is mass -rep. In that case, can't you restrict -rep more than +rep? I mean, I know that the rep I do give out consists a lot more of positive rather than negative.

Other than that, at the end of the day, who cares if positive rep is over used? It's not going to do anyone any harm, I mean, it's not like eBay where someone's reputation is extremely important is it?
That's true. The only problem is that it caused bullying. People started to use their massive rep power on new members or members they don't like. Thats why we had to monitor pointless +rep so much so it was harder for people to gain a lot of rep power. Now we don't have to worry about +rep monitoring as much but it is still against the rules to pointless rep :).

[nvrspk4]

That's true. The only problem is that it caused bullying. People started to use their massive rep power on new members or members they don't like. Thats why we had to monitor pointless +rep so much so it was harder for people to gain a lot of rep power. Now we don't have to worry about +rep monitoring as much but it is still against the rules to pointless rep :).

Also it was creating a social order. Rep power = your status in the community. We felt that people should be judged by character and not looked down upon because the number next to their name was bigger. Or at least, if they were, this was a direct reflection of you, as opposed to a reflection of how many friends you have with high rep powers / how many people you can suck up to with a high rep power.

[Black_Apalachi]

I think the rep system does get more attention than it should and also agree that if a rep is positive and not hurting the member you give it to its no big deal :o



Getting a nice comment over your post is enough and the points with it should not really bother people. I have had a few reps off people with no rep power and they are just as good as a rep off somebody with 30 rep power.

Certainly. I am very greatful for both Undertaker and Mad's rep :D.


That's true. The only problem is that it caused bullying. People started to use their massive rep power on new members or members they don't like. Thats why we had to monitor pointless +rep so much so it was harder for people to gain a lot of rep power. Now we don't have to worry about +rep monitoring as much but it is still against the rules to pointless rep :).

Hmm... so you were avoiding people collecting the power in the first place and thus avoid masses of pointless rep? I agree with the rule of no pointless rep, but surely restricting all rep is causing inconvenience to more innocent users than those who break the rule?


Also it was creating a social order. Rep power = your status in the community. We felt that people should be judged by character and not looked down upon because the number next to their name was bigger. Or at least, if they were, this was a direct reflection of you, as opposed to a reflection of how many friends you have with high rep powers / how many people you can suck up to with a high rep power.

Ahhh... I see your point about friends with high rep power. I assume someone who regularly hands out pointless rep receives an infraction adventually? Well, perhaps those with very high rep power who give pointless, should have harsher punishment?

For example, someone with 1-5 rep power may get an infraction after 10 pointless reps but someone with 6-10 rep power may get an infraction after just 5 pointless reps (or something like that)?

[GommeInc]

One problem Habbox has with rules, is if one person manages to cause a problem, everyone must suffer as if they helped cause the problem. The foreign language rule is pointless for this very reason. Someone swore in French or something, and for some strange reason, the swearing rule has no effect. 'You are not allowed to swear' pretty much covers any form of swearing, so why make a new rule on it? Let people post in French in any forum, granted it would be pointless but I don't see why you need to make a new rule which existed in different rules...

EDIT: What the snot is a server technician?

[Catzsy]

One problem Habbox has with rules, is if one person manages to cause a problem, everyone must suffer as if they helped cause the problem. The foreign language rule is pointless for this very reason. Someone swore in French or something, and for some strange reason, the swearing rule has no effect. 'You are not allowed to swear' pretty much covers any form of swearing, so why make a new rule on it? Let people post in French in any forum, granted it would be pointless but I don't see why you need to make a new rule which existed in different rules...

EDIT: What the snot is a server technician?

LOL:) They help keep the website, forum online and deal with any problems and seeing Jin back has really made my day *does a little dance*

[GommeInc]

LOL:) They help keep the website, forum online and deal with any problems and seeing Jin back has really made my day *does a little dance*
Habbox actually own a physical server that Jin and Tom H have access to? Coool!

And Catzsy, you don't need to owe that rep, you given me enough lol!

[jesus]

if it bothers you admins SO much why dont you just remove the full system insted of cryin about it

[Black_Apalachi]

if it bothers you admins SO much why dont you just remove the full system insted of cryin about it


That's clearly not the answer. I've never seen a forum without some sort of reputation system but at the same time, I've never seen so much fuss over it as I have here :P.

[Hazza]

I haven't repped more than five people since the change because it's pointless. +3 REP will not go anywhere. I've given up on rep. But I can see what you're saying and I do think 5 a day is too low.

[nvrspk4]

Ahhh... I see your point about friends with high rep power. I assume someone who regularly hands out pointless rep receives an infraction adventually? Well, perhaps those with very high rep power who give pointless, should have harsher punishment?

For example, someone with 1-5 rep power may get an infraction after 10 pointless reps but someone with 6-10 rep power may get an infraction after just 5 pointless reps (or something like that)?

Well yes, we do deal with them, however the problem had become so humongously widespread that it was a literal situation of 1 v 100. And checking to see who's been pointless repping takes a while.

We usually send warnings first before doing anything though. The problem is we won't be able to ID them every 6 reps, we come across them by accident usually, through someone else's reps or checks of them due to their rep rule breaking.


One problem Habbox has with rules, is if one person manages to cause a problem, everyone must suffer as if they helped cause the problem. The foreign language rule is pointless for this very reason. Someone swore in French or something, and for some strange reason, the swearing rule has no effect. 'You are not allowed to swear' pretty much covers any form of swearing, so why make a new rule on it? Let people post in French in any forum, granted it would be pointless but I don't see why you need to make a new rule which existed in different rules...

EDIT: What the snot is a server technician?

Well, its not exactly one person in this case, its a vast majority of the forum. And when its a vast majority unfortunately everyone does have to suffer. I would say more people pointless rep than swear, but swearing is still against the rule ;)


Habbox actually own a physical server that Jin and Tom H have access to? Coool!

And Catzsy, you don't need to owe that rep, you given me enough lol!

Yah we have a dedicated server and instead of blowing something up we can send in the hounds :P


if it bothers you admins SO much why dont you just remove the full system insted of cryin about it


Because we wouldn't be the ones crying if the rep system was removed my good genius. If we didn't think about our members, we might have ;)

[benjamin]

the whole situation was caused because of people with a high rep power having a vendetta against people and -repping them caused them to go down really quick, then why not just get rid of minus repuation, leave plus, and then not HAVE any repuation rules except for the limitations of how much to give out etc.

a hell of a lot easier for all of you, and the forum would probably prefer it on the whole.

[Beau]

What I would like to see happen, is for certain parts of the forum eg. Graphics and Alterations, the rep you give out should be limited to 15 a day, mainly to rep good alts. But in other areas, eg. Spam, it should be limited to say 3 a day or something along those lines

Doubt this will happen - vBulletin doesn't have a functionality to do it out of the box, so it would require a custom modificaiton.

[Black_Apalachi]

the whole situation was caused because of people with a high rep power having a vendetta against people and -repping them caused them to go down really quick, then why not just get rid of minus repuation, leave plus, and then not HAVE any repuation rules except for the limitations of how much to give out etc.

a hell of a lot easier for all of you, and the forum would probably prefer it on the whole.

I don't think having no negative rep would help because sometimes you see someone with a LOT of negative rep (like 4 or 5 red blocks). If your idea was in place, those people would just have no rep at all... infact they might even have some positive rep.

What I'm saying is that just because someone has 0 rep doesn't neccessarily mean I wouldn't trust them (threy could just be new), but someone with a big red bar is someone I'm going to avoid.

[GommeInc]

Well, its not exactly one person in this case, its a vast majority of the forum. And when its a vast majority unfortunately everyone does have to suffer. I would say more people pointless rep than swear, but swearing is still against the rule ;)
So a vast majority of the forum know how to swear in a different language? I very much doubt it. It's ever worse when the rule on swearing covers swearing in general, which means swearing in a different language, swearing backwards etc etc. You've just added a new rule which already existed!

[---MAD---]

So a vast majority of the forum know how to swear in a different language? I very much doubt it. It's ever worse when the rule on swearing covers swearing in general, which means swearing in a different language, swearing backwards etc etc. You've just added a new rule which already existed!
All forums have language rules in place. English forums always require you to post in english (unless its a language discussion forum for example). Its not a pointless rule. We cannot moderate however many languages exist on this planet. All the mods, smods and admins are english speakers and it is what language the forum itself is in.

If you want to talk in french - go to a french forum. This is an english forum for english speakers.


Habbox actually own a physical server that Jin and Tom H have access to? Coool!

And Catzsy, you don't need to owe that rep, you given me enough lol!
No not physical access. We own 3 dedicated servers (4 atm - we are dropping one after the transfer is 100% satisfactory). We also have a company who takes care of our servers (they are called server managers).

[GommeInc]

All forums have language rules in place. English forums always require you to post in english (unless its a language discussion forum for example). Its not a pointless rule. We cannot moderate however many languages exist on this planet. All the mods, smods and admins are english speakers and it is what language the forum itself is in.

If you want to talk in french - go to a french forum. This is an english forum for english speakers.
You don't seem to understand, it is a pointless rule :rolleyes: Speaking in French, German, Spanish, whatever language IS pointless, therefore comes under the already existing rules:

B1. Don't post for the sake of your post count - It's always nice to have a high post count, it may seem as though people will respect you more with a higher number beside your name, but it doesn't really mean anything on these forums. We respect each of you whether you have 1 post or 1000.

B2. Don't post short or meaningless posts / spam - We don't want replies like "i dono" or "why" or "yeah". We have set the forum so that any message must contain at least 9 characters, do not try to get around this by adding meaningless characters.

B11. Do not make pointless posts - It is not allowed to post any messages that others consider to be meaningless or pointless or not relevant to the discussion.

B13. Do not make off topic posts - Off topic and random posts are not allowed. Your post must be related to a post made earlier in the thread or about the thread itself.



Having another rule just adds more reason for people to think the rules are stupid. It's like posting a rule "no uploading pictures of your friends" when there is already a rule that says "don't post pictures of people without their permission."

Thus, the foreign languages rule is pointless, because posting in another language is pointless therefore it falls into the rule "do no make meaningless / pointless posts."

[Jordy]

if it bothers you admins SO much why dont you just remove the full system insted of cryin about it
I find the reputation system so difficult at the moment, I don't see the point in making decent posts for reputation like I used too. In my newer days I used to create guides and get information from the inside of Sulake so I could get reputation as it was quite fun to collect and I was low compared to the average member, and it worked and it grew. However I don't see the point in repping people now as it's hardly going to effect them, and I don't see the point in making useful posts just for rep anymore, as it'll be useless.

You can QFT on this, I wouldn't complain if the reputation system was entirely removed or reset as I now find it pointless, it's that bad it may as well not exist.

What I saw on a vBulletin forum earlier, I don't know if it's a plug-in or comes with vBulletin but it looks decent, it's reasonably similar but you can 'Thank' people for posts, and then it displays the thank-you's in the top right like 'Location, Habbo Name, Rep power etc' - So instead of being registered for ages and things, you just 'Thank' people for useful posts, no comments needed etc, and no rep powers or anything. There would be no negative and just a number like Thank-you's: 33 - It would definitely encourage useful and decent posts. I'd be in favour of that replacing the system, it'd be much more simple and effective. What I really want is the old system back but I understand it won't happen. Can a thank-you system be looked into.

[GommeInc]

I find the reputation system so difficult at the moment, I don't see the point in making decent posts for reputation like I used too. In my newer days I used to create guides and get information from the inside of Sulake so I could get reputation as it was quite fun to collect and I was low compared to the average member, and it worked and it grew. However I don't see the point in repping people now as it's hardly going to effect them, and I don't see the point in making useful posts just for rep anymore, as it'll be useless.

You can QFT on this, I wouldn't complain if the reputation system was entirely removed or reset as I now find it pointless, it's that bad it may as well not exist.

What I saw on a vBulletin forum earlier, I don't know if it's a plug-in or comes with vBulletin but it looks decent, it's reasonably similar but you can 'Thank' people for posts, and then it displays the thank-you's in the top right like 'Location, Habbo Name, Rep power etc' - So instead of being registered for ages and things, you just 'Thank' people for useful posts, no comments needed etc, and no rep powers or anything. There would be no negative and just a number like Thank-you's: 33 - It would definitely encourage useful and decent posts. I'd be in favour of that replacing the system, it'd be much more simple and effective. What I really want is the old system back but I understand it won't happen. Can a thank-you system be looked into.
The rep system used to be used to show kudos for good, useful posts. Now it may aswell not exist because it doesn't show you how useful you are and how important you are to the forum. Habbox have taken something with an issue, and caused a bigger issue. Useful posts don't get as rewarded as they used to. No one knows how useful you are only you do, which destroys the whole point of a rep system. It's now a private compliments system.

Habbox's excuse is that there were too many pointless posts. If people have an issue with pointless rep, they'll report it which was alot easier than monitoring the whole system,

[jesus]

Because we wouldn't be the ones crying if the rep system was removed my good genius. If we didn't think about our members, we might have ;)dont patronise me just coz you have a green name


also dont be sayin that when NOBODY on the FULL FORUM agrees with the change and EVERYONE is complaining about it while they ALL want it to be changed back, yet you still wont. thinking about the members? hahahahahhhahaha

[Catzsy]

I think this thread is pretty exhausted now as it is being considered. :)

[jrh2002]

if it bothers you admins SO much why dont you just remove the full system insted of cryin about it


Its not the admin who are crying about it lol and yes lets get rid :P

[jesus]

Its not the admin who are crying about it lol and yes lets get rid :Pthey are cryin about people givin 'pointless' rep when its not doin anyone any harm whatsoever

[jrh2002]

they are cryin about people givin 'pointless' rep when its not doin anyone any harm whatsoever

I dont see a big problem with positive rep its the pointless negative what causes the probs but you can't really allow one and not the other. As Catzsy said its being looked at so we will just have to wait and see what suprises you get if any lol

[jesus]

I dont see a big problem with pointless positive rep its the pointless negative what causes the probs but you can't really allow one and not the other. As Catzsy said its being looked at so we will just have to wait and see what suprises you get if any lolwhat i dont understand about the whole situation is why admins have to be so bothered about it when other forums dont give a ****

thats my only 'query' if you like on the whole matter

[jrh2002]

what i dont understand about the whole situation is why admins have to be so bothered about it when other forums dont give a ****

thats my only 'query' if you like on the whole matter


Other forums (not habbo related) usually have more mature members who most of the time don't know many people so use the feature correctly. HxF rep has turned into a tool for bullying and also into a I rep you and you rep me club.

[jesus]

its turned into a **** hole rly the only civilized admin now is u :[

[Alkaz]

I think that the amount aloud should be reduced from the original 20 (i think) but taking it rite down to 5 is well to low i think. A happy medium would be 10 pd for me.

[Neversoft]

Yeah, should be rasied back to 10.

[jesus]

Yeah, should be rasied back to 10....as the poll indicates, but the admins won't listen.

[Neversoft]

...as the poll indicates, but the admins won't listen.

Have you only just figured that out Jamie? :P They won't do anything about rep anymore.

[Energizer]

im not bothered. since this new rep thing came in, ive only repped like 2 or 3 people.

[jesus]

Have you only just figured that out Jamie? :P They won't do anything about rep anymore.i figured that out when i first came back (september)

the only nice admins are the ones who dont get a say in what happens

[jrh2002]

i figured that out when i first came back (september)

the only nice admins are the ones who dont get a say in what happens


We all get a say in what happens but things don't get changed instantly and get discussed first.

[jesus]

We all get a say in what happens but things don't get changed instantly and get discussed first.i meant the ones who finalise it :8 they make out like its some life-changing matter

[Finkelstien]

I really think it should be raised back to ten. I find it so fustrating browsing around the threads in this forum, finding a really excellent post made (for different reasons) and not being able to give rep for it.

Looking at the amount of users on this forum and the amount of posts made, to only be able to give 5 rep points a day is not feasible in my view.

[bo$$]

I think the poll speaks well. 32 to raise, 6 to not and 7 don't care.

[Scuzzy]

I have my rep set off but 5 people a day is pretty low. should be raised back, if not i'd rather it 7 or 8 at least

[@xP]

why doesn't the amount you can rep tie in with user ranks?

like rank1 can rep 5 people
rank 2 can rep 6..

etc

You can't do that.

When you create a new usergroup you don't have reputation settings.