.-.eXtra.-. No longer graphics manager?

[Cool--]

He was a great manager tbh.

[GommeInc]

What did he do? I didn't know he was the graphics manager :S His work mustn't of been too exciting...

[ExtraKen]

What did he do? I didn't know he was the graphics manager :S His work mustn't of been too exciting...

Well thank you ;l

I did much of effort to get a good team that could create the best graphics for habbox!

[Cool--]

What did he do? I didn't know he was the graphics manager :S His work mustn't of been too exciting...
I take it your actullay blind? - Can't you see the graphics on the main site, The banners, The skins etc?

[GommeInc]

Are they his? No one said they were. Aren't most of the graphics on the site free with Joomla! except the obvious ones with Habbos and Habbox splashed on them and if there was a team helping, surely some of them aren't actually his (unless the team you had did nothing).

[GoldenMerc]

why did you get fired may i ask?

[ExtraKen]

Are they his? No one said they were. Aren't most of the graphics on the site free with Joomla! except the obvious ones with Habbos and Habbox splashed on them and if there was a team helping, surely some of them aren't actually his (unless the team you had did nothing).


Obvious I do make some of the tasks myself and. tbh graphics dep is one of the hardest deps to lead. And I dont think you can talk to me like this as I did notting for this?

And euhm I dont know it was kind of unexpected that I got fired :s Really feel bad about it :s

[GommeInc]

I was just stating, what did you do? Graphics Department is pretty much hidden from view. No one knows what happens in that department and nothing is announced other the usual who has been hired and fired.

[Naruto!]

Obvious I do make some of the tasks myself and. tbh graphics dep is one of the hardest deps to lead. And I dont think you can talk to me like this as I did notting for this?

And euhm I dont know it was kind of unexpected that I got fired :s Really feel bad about it :s
Sorry to hear that you've been fired mate.
I've admired some of your work. :)

[Catzsy]

Well your graphics look great and I am sorry to hear the news.

[ExtraKen]

Thank you

I feel bad myself about not being it anymore as I was planning to get the team back to high quality. But it is hard to find active graphics staff and since they removed the whole team last year. I had to start from Zero..

So I do think I did/do a good job. And really dissagree about my removal..

[The Undertaker]

Aww :( tis a shame you've gone :[
Your work is awesome.

Good luck in the future :)

[Naruto!]

Thank you

I feel bad myself about not being it anymore as I was planning to get the team back to high quality. But it is hard to find active graphics staff and since they removed the whole team last year. I had to start from Zero..

So I do think I did/do a good job. And really dissagree about my removal..
Habbox make a lot of stupid decisions.
This was one of them it would appear. :)

[Catzsy]

Thank you

I feel bad myself about not being it anymore as I was planning to get the team back to high quality. But it is hard to find active graphics staff and since they removed the whole team last year. I had to start from Zero..

So I do think I did/do a good job. And really dissagree about my removal..

Well sites are always looking for good graphics artists :)

[GoldenMerc]

You didnt answer my question :(
I dont realy think Habbox give the graphics staff enough credit realy when somethings uploaded they should atleast say oh this banner is made by ect..

[GommeInc]

Thank you

I feel bad myself about not being it anymore as I was planning to get the team back to high quality. But it is hard to find active graphics staff and since they removed the whole team last year. I had to start from Zero..

So I do think I did/do a good job. And really dissagree about my removal..
Another one of Habbox's stupid decisions by the looks of it. Were you in charge of the Graphics Team when they removed the whole team or were you hired afterwards? Management are very unfair on Department Managers by the looks of it.


You didnt answer my question :(
I dont realy think Habbox give the graphics staff enough credit realy when somethings uploaded they should atleast say oh this banner is made by ect..
Indeed, I always assume that they were made by someone higher up who didn't bother making the announcements. They could say "The Christmas Layout has been uploaded! A very big thanks to .-.eXtra.-. and his team for the amazing graphics."

[Sammeth.]

When I was productions manager I requested quite a few graphics for the department, and I have to admit the turnover wasn't good. In fact, I requested some - 2 weeks later I resigned. Then 2 weeks after I resigned, you sent me them!

Now incompetent staff isn't exactly your fault but you have to take a certain amount of responsibility for it. If your staff are lazy, and aren't doing the work you ask them to, there is discipline. Get new staff, have meetings, motivate them. Thats all part of a mangers job, and judging by the length it takes to get graphics, I'm guessing they aren't all that good.

I don't mean to sound offensive, but I would be lying if I said it was unexpected. Your a very nice bloke though and I'm sure your hearts in the right place. :)!

[ExtraKen]

Another one of Habbox's stupid decisions by the looks of it. Were you in charge of the Graphics Team when they removed the whole team or were you hired afterwards? Management are very unfair on Department Managers by the looks of it.

I was in charge when they did that.

and @ Sammeth when you resquested those they removed my whole team. And had to restart the whole thing by finding new staff etc... So I do think I did my job?

[Mentor]

Maybe its becuse i dont use the habbox main site at all, but ive never heard of you? (and looking now other than a few tiny habbo graphics, its all defults from the joomla theme?)

[GommeInc]

I was in charge when they did that.

and @ Sammeth when you resquested those they removed my whole team. And had to restart the whole thing by finding new staff etc... So I do think I did my job?
Then you should of fired them or had a word yourself, rather than the management remove them without you having a word "/ You're the manager of the department and it is your job. You could of had so much more power in your hands and yet again, Habbox have trust issues along side their terrible management skills.

I think you're better off not working for the organised chaos which Habbox seems to be.

[Sammeth.]

I was in charge when they did that.

and @ Sammeth when you resquested those they removed my whole team. And had to restart the whole thing by finding new staff etc... So I do think I did my job?

Okay, well I think thats a valid excuse - but doing your job would have been making me aware of that at the time and sending the graphics to the right person (rather than me having to forward it to the new manager)

[GoldenMerc]

Hmph so i imagien the fired reason was for not workin properly?

[ExtraKen]

Well that removal wasnt in my control. It was done by generals.

And the most graphics we make are for the forums, shows, events.

[Sammeth.]

Well that removal wasnt in my control. It was done by generals.

And the most graphics we make are for the forums, shows, events.

I think the point is that maybe the 'generals' wouldn't have had to get involved if you were doing your job and disciplining your staff yourself...?

[ExtraKen]

Hmph so i imagien the fired reason was for not workin properly?

I dont see that as a reason, I mean I had never had a manager job before this, So I had to figure out everything and how.

But they could atleast discuss this with me and maybe give me some time to say goodbye? :s I just got on the net and I had like notting :s not even normal graphics designer :s

@ Sammeth I was manager for like only 1-3 weeks when they did that so I had to figure things out how to do them first.

[Sammeth.]

I dont see that as a reason, I mean I had never had a manager job before this, So I had to figure out everything and how.


Was the extremely detailed Managers Guide and individual job role description for each specific department manager not good enough?

[GoldenMerc]

You dont need a guide to manage, Your brain manage's as long as you arnt craving for power and relise how to disiplin or choose the right staff your on your way.

[ExtraKen]

Was the extremely detailed Managers Guide and individual job role description for each specific department manager not good enough?

Words will never be the same as reality...

And y you keep telling here like I was a worse manager.. only making me feel like I failed even more ;l

[Immenseman]

Sorry to hear about your dismissal Ken, shame that you didn't get a warning or anything because a warning/reminder would of helped you get things back on track. However, what's done is done and I wish you all the best for the future. There will never be a shortage of Habbo fansite who desire talented graphic artists like yourself. :)

[Sammeth.]

Words will never be the same as reality...

And y you keep telling here like I was a worse manager.. only making me feel like I failed even more ;l

Im not saying your the worst manager. Im saying that if you were a new manager, and you were struggling the guides are there to help and tell you exactly how to run the department.

Plus, you've been graphics manager since July. You said they removed your staff 1-3 weeks into your manager role...that would be around August time. I requested the graphics in November/Early December and you used the excuse that they removed the staff for not doing them?

When exactly did they remove all your staff, and did it happen more than once? Im getting way confused.

[ExtraKen]

Im not saying your the worst manager. Im saying that if you were a new manager, and you were struggling the guides are there to help and tell you exactly how to run the department.

Plus, you've been graphics manager since July. You said they removed your staff 1-3 weeks into your manager role...that would be around August time. I requested the graphics in November/Early December and you used the excuse that they removed the staff for not doing them?

When exactly did they remove all your staff, and did it happen more than once? Im getting way confused.

Ermm Im not really sure myself...
But I had a hard way about the graphics apply's because like onlya few people with good qualitys applied so I had like not many people as staff.

And well I had this warning saying that I had a last chance to prove and I had that warning like 2 days ago and now today im removed? Its like I had no chance?

[Sammeth.]

Ermm Im not really sure myself...
But I had a hard way about the graphics apply's because like onlya few people with good qualitys applied so I had like not many people as staff.

And well I had this warning saying that I had a last chance to prove and I had that warning like 2 days ago and now today im removed? Its like I had no chance?

Well you can't say they didn't warn you :P

Well anyway, good luck in the future. I don't mean to come across as if I'm just hating on you, I'm just trying to approach it with a realistic view.

[ExtraKen]

Well you can't say they didn't warn you :P

Well anyway, good luck in the future. I don't mean to come across as if I'm just hating on you, I'm just trying to approach it with a realistic view.

Well thanks and same to you :)

[Inseriousity.]

I understand when you say that it's hard being a manager first time but if you had guides to help you, it can't have been that hard to work everything out.

Good luck and yeah, graphics designers are hard to find because like articles and news reporters, no-one likes to do proper work when they're not at school or work. They'd have to work really hard to get a good graphic or write a good piece of news... so yeah, it's hard but people can manage!

[Smophie.]

Omg, Thats Really Upsetting ]:
But Some People Inparticular Havent Been Very Appreciative.

[Tristan]

If you were fired, there was reason.
I don't understand how you tell your side and suddenly everyone's like:
"Oh that's real bad. Habbox management are failing again!"
...
There must be something that you were doing wrong?

[ExtraKen]

If you were fired, there was reason.
I don't understand how you tell your side and suddenly everyone's like:
"Oh that's real bad. Habbox management are failing again!"
...
There must be something that you were doing wrong?

Well ye and they said 2 days ago that I was doing some things wrong etc and saying that I will had to prove me now. But how can I prove myself on 1-2 days? :s

[-Xiangu-]

If you were fired, there was reason.
I don't understand how you tell your side and suddenly everyone's like:
"Oh that's real bad. Habbox management are failing again!"
...
There must be something that you were doing wrong?


I agree with Ymo

but i have always wondered this:

When a manger leaves what happens :P

edit:

extra couldn't you have said to the pm right yes give me a week and i will get everything back on track. you could fire some people and open applications in two days couldnt you?

[Mr.Sam]

one of the staff will become manager
I agree with Ymo

but i have always wondered this:

When a manger leaves what happens :P

[Sammeth.]

When a manger leaves what happens :P

The world stops turning.

[ExtraKen]

I agree with Ymo

but i have always wondered this:

When a manger leaves what happens :P

They search for a new one obv...

But im guessing I already know who is becoming it

[@xP]

I agree with Ymo

but i have always wondered this:

When a manger leaves what happens :P

edit:

extra couldn't you have said to the pm right yes give me a week and i will get everything back on track. you could fire some people and open applications in two days couldnt you?

Well guess what?

They hire a new one. :eusa_clap

[Tristan]

Are you sure that the day difference wasn't longer?

[-Xiangu-]

i know they hire a new one but how do they hire them?

how do they select one from the graphics team i guess it must be hard

[Sammeth.]

i know they hire a new one but how do they hire them?

how do they select one from the graphics team i guess it must be hard
They base it off (ex)manager reccomendations, and who they think can manage a department. Its not hard...:P

[-Xiangu-]

oh i see cool XD

[GoldenMerc]

I think roboevil hes long time best one !

[Bomb-Head]

I think roboevil hes long time best one !
RoboEvil does amazing images - would be good if it's him :p

[-Xiangu-]

i think roboevil would be a good choice aswell, he has a good eye for pixel art and has a good judge of character

[Catzsy]

The key to a well motivated staff is encouragement, training and guidance during the early days. A manual is fine but is no substitute to experience and help. I used to bring this up frequently and it maybe something worth looking into and perhaps a training manager who has lots of experience should be appointed to look after the new recruits including mods. Just an idea. :)

[-Xiangu-]

I vote catzy :D

[today]

The new manager will be choosen soon ;) ahah

[Sammeth.]

The new manager will be choosen soon ;) ahah
It's you blates. Be more subtle next time :(

[today]

It's you blates. Be more subtle next time :(
bugga! its not me tho =]

[Camy]

Yep, new manager is on their way.

Sorry to see your gone ken :(

[Sammeth.]

Yep, new manager is on their way.

Sorry to see your gone ken :(
It's you blates. Be more subtle next time :(

[Camy]

If only :(

[Immenseman]

It's me! Nah, good luck to whoever gets the position.

[-Xiangu-]

jake you don't deserve it :P

[Favourtism]

Haha at Sammeth

Sad to see you go =[

Also the new manager should be announced soon I reckon and NO Sammeth ''it isn't me blates'' :)

[-Xiangu-]

all the graphics people have said is "new manager will be soon" and stuff along those lines

its really quite funny

[ExtraKen]

Hope its me :L

and lol late ;l my internet connection has gone crazy ;l
Pff I want ma position back -.-

[Imp!]

things aren't exactly the same when MAD ran it but full credit to extra for trying his best and thats all people can ask for :)

[today]

all the graphics people have said is "new manager will be soon" and stuff along those lines

its really quite funny

As we know. :eusa_whis

[ExtraKen]

things aren't exactly the same when MAD ran it but full credit to extra for trying his best and thats all people can ask for :)

Thank you

[Pyroka]

I'm the same as most people in this thread, the Habbox graphics department wern't highly recognised on Habbox so for this to happen really does put the graphics department in a rather bad light. Well not the graphics department actually, but the Management for doing this to such a hidden department which obviously recruit secretly. Sad to see what looks right now to be a great departmental manager, be fired for no misdoings.

But as they say... That's Habbox!

[french]

I reckon you was fired for lack of activity. (And MAD was jealous you took his department obviously, and done a way better job :rolleyes:.)

And Graphics Managers tell the Graphics Designers what do Design for Forum banners etc, if anyone are wondering.

[ExtraKen]

I reckon you was fired for lack of activity. (And MAD was jealous you took his department obviously, and done a way better job :rolleyes:.)

And Graphics Managers tell the Graphics Designers what do Design for Forum banners etc, if anyone are wondering.

Well Mad asked me to become manager actually xD

[today]

And he asked the new guy too im guessing.

[Pyroka]

It could just be the fact that they thought you were in power for too long? A change may have been needed. Least they could've done is degraded you to Graphics Staff due to your services for the past... God knows? =/

[ExtraKen]

It could just be the fact that they thought you were in power for too long? A change may have been needed. Least they could've done is degraded you to Graphics Staff due to your services for the past... God knows? =/

To long I've only been manager for 7 months I think.
and been on habbox for 3 years xD wich are 2.5 years where I was graphics designer.

[Pyroka]

Good point... Hmm, they'll have their reasons I guess. Fresh talent and all that rubbish. I do think they should've kept you in the team for your services though, if anything? You don't just 'knock off' managers who've been with them for like half a year or so. =/

[ExtraKen]

Good point... Hmm, they'll have their reasons I guess. Fresh talent and all that rubbish. I do think they should've kept you in the team for your services though, if anything? You don't just 'knock off' managers who've been with them for like half a year or so. =/

Ye I totally agree

[Tristan]

I think roboevil hes long time best one !

I don't think Mit'd do it. :P

[Sammeth.]

Ye I totally agree

People are coming up with theories of why you were fired, but you know why you were fired, so why don't you shed some light?! :P

[today]

The pm you was sent would explain it all.

[ExtraKen]

Well the reason was that I wasn't active enough... :s
Wich I dont understand because I try to help my team as good as I can! Well could ;l

[Cixso]

Well the reason was that I wasn't active enough... :s
Wich I dont understand because I try to help my team as good as I can! Well could ;l

Feel sorry for you.

Anybody have any estimates until HabboxForum actually die/better management get hired?

[ExtraKen]

Anyway going to sleep now :)

Hope tomorow will bring some good news :(

[Alex3213]

I feel really sorry for you extra =[


The Graphics Team won't be the same without you =[

[le harry]

gl ken. :)

[-Xiangu-]

i guess to be manager then you just gotta be on like every day for more than like 10 minutes. i gues thats why you got fired :o

[nvrspk4]

Habbox make a lot of stupid decisions.
This was one of them it would appear. :)


Another one of Habbox's stupid decisions by the looks of it. Were you in charge of the Graphics Team when they removed the whole team or were you hired afterwards? Management are very unfair on Department Managers by the looks of it.


Good point... Hmm, they'll have their reasons I guess. Fresh talent and all that rubbish. I do think they should've kept you in the team for your services though, if anything? You don't just 'knock off' managers who've been with them for like half a year or so. =/

It would be a brilliant idea if people would recognize that they're seeing one, perhaps not entirely accurate side of the story before accusing Habbox Management of making a "stupid decision" that was "unwarranted" or "unexpected." If you knew the entire situation then your opinion would be somewhat different ;)

However, I don't believe that's necessary. First of all, its his business, and if he wants to keep it to himself, that's his prerogative, and I will respect that. Plus, he's no longer on the team and there's absolutely no reason for my to drag his name through the mud, as he was a good guy ;)



If you were fired, there was reason.
I don't understand how you tell your side and suddenly everyone's like:
"Oh that's real bad. Habbox management are failing again!"
...
There must be something that you were doing wrong?

Your brilliance quite simply confounds me :love3:


Well ye and they said 2 days ago that I was doing some things wrong etc and saying that I will had to prove me now. But how can I prove myself on 1-2 days? :s

...:rolleyes:

Anyway, good luck in the future Ken. As I said, you were a good guy, and a good designer :)

[JoeyK.]

Well, I didn't really know you, but good luck in the future. Lovely how people will use any excuse to take a cheap shot at the general management without even knowing the full story...

[Cixso]

Anyway, good luck in the future Ken. As I said, you were a good guy, and a good designer :)

How good was he in your opinion?

[nvrspk4]

How good was he in your opinion?

As a designer? Fairly proficient.

[Grig]

Ken, it's very sad to see you go. You are a fantastic designer and person. I agree with the fact that the graphics could of been more active, but the situation wasn't bad or anything. Anyway I guess al decisions managment take is for the best.

Good Luck Ken :(

[ExtraKen]

As a designer? Fairly proficient.

Lol thanks

Lets see if mr roboevil will do a better job.

No suprise for me that he is manager...:rolleyes:

[Immenseman]

I don't think Mit'd do it. :P

Wrong soz!!

[FlyingJesus]

Plus, you've been graphics manager since July. You said they removed your staff 1-3 weeks into your manager role...that would be around August time. I requested the graphics in November/Early December and you used the excuse that they removed the staff for not doing them?

With all due respect, this shows how good a manager he was. By late November even if a new team hadn't been fully drafted and trained (from August:S) then some personal efforts wouldn't have gone amiss, or at least an explanation at the time.


(And MAD was jealous you took his department obviously, and done a way better job :rolleyes:.)

I do love how people find a way to blame MAD for absolutely everything, even when it's an entirely fair decision.

[Tristan]

Wow, Mit actually accepted. :O
Didn't think he would. :P

luv yaz mitorolaaaaaaaaa

nd nvrspk4 - rnt i jst amayzin????

[Klamputation]

So they replace the manager with a twit whos only good at graphics and not management?

[Sammeth.]

So they replace the manager with a twit whos only good at graphics and not management?
How do you know he isn't good at management?

[GommeInc]

RoboEvil might be quite good at it. He's very good to talk to, I just hope he doesn't lose this niceness being a manager. But yes, he is still a twit, but he's my cuddly twit ;)

[MissAlice]

If it's your first time as a Manager, know one can really know in all honesty whether you will be successful or not, until you begin to settle in to the role, hopefully your superiors kept an eye on you and asked how you was doing, which would of been your opportunity to get help if you really needed it! I'm sure you did your best, learn from it and good luck in the future :)

Oh and good luck Mit ;)

[ExtraKen]

So they replace the manager with a twit whos only good at graphics and not management?

Well I think Roboevil will do a great job as manager

[Pyroka]

Wow, I'm pretty shocked to be honest. I didn't think Mit would've accepted the job however he is one of the best pixel artists on Habbo (in my opinion). Well done.

[Tristan]

So they replace the manager with a twit whos only good at graphics and not management?

Oh ho ho, I can't wait to see Mit's response.
Mit will be brilliant as a manager. His staff will be glad to be working with him because of his talent and he is a very nice person.
Damn, I hope he burns you.

[Sammeth.]

Wow, I'm pretty shocked to be honest. I didn't think Mit would've accepted the job however he is one of the best pixel artists on Habbo (in my opinion). Well done.

He will be amazing I'm sure :D

Why is everyone so shocked he accepted it?! :(

[Camy]

By the plans put in place, it seems Robo will be a very good manager :)

[nvrspk4]

So they replace the manager with a twit whos only good at graphics and not management?

I've worked with Mit before, I have confidence in him. I don't know where your mistrust comes from ;)

[Pyroka]

Just to answer the question of why he may not accept, I've always thought of him as quite a modest person who just does his 'thing' when he wants to. I didn't think he'd do a management job over it to be honest, he doesn't come across as a person who'd do that. Guess I was wrong, and I think that may be the case for most people.