Brown pledges £50 MILLION to China

[-:Undertaker:-]

Can't find link, but bascially Gordon Brown has given the Chinese Government £50 MILLION pounds of OUR money. They make more money than us yet we're giving them money??? They can afford Nuclear Weapons have a army over a million strong yet we give them money?

We have got to be the biggest pushovers in the world.

[Falcon]

Brown is the world's cash mashine.

[Jordy]

Brown is the world's cash mashine.And knowing our countries security of important information he'll come down with identity theft before we know it :P

China don't need our 50 Million pounds, and couldn't this money be spent elsewhere in the UK...

[Breakfloor]

out military is underfunded.

it couldve gone to who needed it.

[kk.]

what?! anyone know the reason

[Corporal]

out military is underfunded.

it couldve gone to who needed it.
We could of bought some more predertors.
These would make the risk of milertary staff being killed while using it to zero.
as its a UAV.

[Jordy]

We could of bought some more predertors.
These would make the risk of milertary staff being killed while using it to zero.
as its a UAV.Or we could use it to compensate terminally injured soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan who seem to be getting pathetic rates of compensation.

[Lycan]

why exactly is giving them money? or is it a random gesture?

[Corporal]

Or we could use it to compensate terminally injured soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan who seem to be getting pathetic rates of compensation.
Yes! absoluty.
I dont get it why dont we get a say in these things before it happens?

[Xarea]

Why didn't we give £50,000,000 to Northen Rock, then?

[Breakfloor]

OR we could use it to treat our own soldiers rather then letting american give them aids.

[Blue]

Yes! absoluty.
I dont get it why dont we get a say in these things before it happens?

Because our labour government is **** so to speak.

[Smiddy]

http://www.gulf-daily-news.com/Story.asp?Article=206294&Sn=WORL&IssueID=30306

Basically to help save the planet. Since China is 2nd highest emitters in the world.

To make renewable energy sources for the Olympic games this year.

[Corporal]

Why didn't we give £50,000,000 to Northen Rock, then?
Because its pretty obv that virgin will buy it.

[Blue]

Why didn't we give £50,000,000 to Northen Rock, then?
Because they owe £33,000,000,000 to the bank of england :)

[Xarea]

Because its pretty obv that virgin will buy it.

If the Government let them, that is.

[-:Undertaker:-]

The reason Brown gave was to aid China is carbon emissions, god yeah and as if China couldn't afford this themselves. All I can say is..

That's our Labour!

[Corporal]

If the Government let them, that is.
They would rather then buy it because if it comes out of tax payers money then he will look bad.
All i can say is that id rather have Blair back, and that there should be another election soon so cameron can have a chance to win.

[Lycan]

I'm sure Blairs laughing it off that just as he left brown **** happened.


If its for Carbon emisions then i'm ok with it, after all Chinas a nice allie to have and if it does the enviroment better, so then be it
Just a shame we can't get other countries to lower carbon emisions.

[Smiddy]

http://www.gulf-daily-news.com/Story.asp?Article=206294&Sn=WORL&IssueID=30306

Basically to help save the planet. Since China is 2nd highest emitters in the world.

To make renewable energy sources for the Olympic games this year.

The reason Brown gave was to aid China is carbon emissions, god yeah and as if China couldn't afford this themselves. All I can say is..

That's our Labour!
I think the fact we've supplied the money for them means we will also gain access to this renewable energy source, it is a small amount of money compared to the amounts needed to resurrect the whole world.

They would rather then buy it because if it comes out of tax payers money then he will look bad.
All i can say is that id rather have Blair back, and that there should be another election soon so cameron can have a chance to win.
You'd honestly want Cameron to win? I think Labour is the best party for us currently, but they have a rubbish leader, and have done for the last 12 years; but more so in the last year.

[Corporal]

You'd honestly want Cameron to win? I think Labour is the best party for us currently, but they have a rubbish leader, and have done for the last 12 years; but more so in the last year.
i want to give him a chance, after i dont think he can be worse then what we have atm

[-:Undertaker:-]

I think the fact we've supplied the money for them means we will also gain access to this renewable energy source, it is a small amount of money compared to the amounts needed to resurrect the whole world.

You'd honestly want Cameron to win? I think Labour is the best party for us currently, but they have a rubbish leader, and have done for the last 12 years; but more so in the last year.

We don't need renewable sources as Global Warming doesn't exist, even if it did China would still be building one power station a week. We have police unhappy with their pay, pensions are collapsing, crime is going up, a leader who travels the world preaching democracy yet won't even give his own people a vote on the EU issue. Britain needs the money more than any other country, and considering it's OUR money. China makes so much money, so why are we GIVING them more?

I agree that we don't want Cameron, but to be honest recently he's looking more like i'd like him to and giving tougher messages compared to last few years when he's dithered on. I'd rather have the Conservatives in (with a crap leader) rather than Labour.

[Lycan]

We don't need renewable sources as Global Warming doesn't exist, even if it did China would still be building one power station a week. We have police unhappy with their pay, pensions are collapsing, crime is going up, a leader who travels the world preaching democracy yet won't even give his own people a vote on the EU issue. Britain needs the money more than any other country, and considering it's OUR money. China makes so much money, so why are we GIVING them more?

I agree that we don't want Cameron, but to be honest recently he's looking more like i'd like him to and giving tougher messages compared to last few years when he's dithered on. I'd rather have the Conservatives in (with a crap leader) rather than Labour.

you realise we want renewable energy sources because oils going to run out right..... right... and coal goes as well
nothing to do with global warming,

Perhaps you should google it, because when the oil does run out in 20 years time, i still want power.

[Smiddy]

We don't need renewable sources as Global Warming doesn't exist, even if it did China would still be building one power station a week. We have police unhappy with their pay, pensions are collapsing, crime is going up, a leader who travels the world preaching democracy yet won't even give his own people a vote on the EU issue. Britain needs the money more than any other country, and considering it's OUR money. China makes so much money, so why are we GIVING them more?

I agree that we don't want Cameron, but to be honest recently he's looking more like i'd like him to and giving tougher messages compared to last few years when he's dithered on. I'd rather have the Conservatives in (with a crap leader) rather than Labour.
You're ranting at me for no reason there Daniel, I know Britain's situation is absurd money wise currently. But the thing is, we've lost all power which we used to have, this is a blunt attempt for us to make a new allie for when we reach rock bottom (it can still get worse? :/) - and with Gordon Brown in power, we will keep on declining. But, we don't need a new party, we need a new, dominant, no-nonsense leader. Which none of the other candidates can also offer, Cameron is all talk no action.

And, at the above post, it's somewhere like Sudan, they have a massive oil well underneath them, it's not running out, we just don't have access to the other places.

[-:Undertaker:-]

you realise we want renewable energy sources because oils going to run out right..... right... and coal goes as well
nothing to do with global warming,

Perhaps you should google it, because when the oil does run out in 20 years time, i still want power.

We don't use all of a Oil well when we find it, we only use about 1/3 or 2/3 of it. There will still be plenty of Oil on 20 years time and even 50 years time. I don't need to use google for pathetic eco-green arguements on how we're all going to die in the next 20 years thanks, been there, done that :8

We are going Nuclear anyway so renewables would count, they also cost more than you get back from them so when you have wind farms your making a financial loss as their lifespan is only 10/15 years.



You're ranting at me for no reason there Daniel, I know Britain's situation is absurd money wise currently. But the thing is, we've lost all power which we used to have, this is a blunt attempt for us to make a new allie for when we reach rock bottom (it can still get worse? :/) - and with Gordon Brown in power, we will keep on declining. But, we don't need a new party, we need a new, dominant, no-nonsense leader. Which none of the other candidates can also offer, Cameron is all talk no action.

And, at the above post, it's somewhere like Sudan, they have a massive oil well underneath them, it's not running out, we just don't have access to the other places.


We can still be friends with China if we keep trade with them, ultimatly it is hard to keep ties with a Communist country but £50 million pounds won't buy you love. China will always be silent at the moment because they get their income from us and Europe, if anything were to happen between us we'd just threaten to boycott Chinese goods. (Sorry if it came over a bit harsh :P)

Oh and on the point of Oil, spot on Thomas.

[Blue]

you realise we want renewable energy sources because oils going to run out right..... right... and coal goes as well
nothing to do with global warming,

Perhaps you should google it, because when the oil does run out in 20 years time, i still want power.


Britain will provide £50 million (BD19m) from government funds to support investment in energy efficiency, renewables, clean coal and carbon capture and storage in China, said Brown.
Earlier, Brown stopped off at Taiyang Gong Power Station in Beijing, which was partly financed through British carbon credits.
The power station, which will become fully operational in November, is the first in China to be fuelled by natural gas instead of coal.Isn't natural gas a fossil fuel? Because that's gonna run out too

[--ss--]

Improve their home country before trying to improve the world :/
Seriously the money could have been used to help people in the UK yet they give a large sum like that to China , Also what are they going to do for the 2012 Olympics, I doubt they'll be able to afford to pay it off without tripling the taxes now :rolleyes:.

[Smiddy]

We can still be friends with China if we keep trade with them, ultimatly it is hard to keep ties with a Communist country but £50 million pounds won't buy you love. China will always be silent at the moment because they get their income from us and Europe, if anything were to happen between us we'd just threaten to boycott Chinese goods. (Sorry if it came over a bit harsh :P)

Oh and on the point of Oil, spot on Thomas.
I'm aware, unfortunately we don't have dire straight up politicians running the country, do we?

You sound surprised, just cos I don't read the daily mail, doesn't mean I don't know my stuff ;)

For those who bring up the Northern Rock situation, they're planning to take that out of Bonds (http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/5471e548-c6b2-11dc-bd9c-0000779fd2ac.html), meaning whoever buys out Northern Rock will have to pay back the money over a number of years with maturity added also. In the end, you just know they'll turn out good if Richard Branson gets it, anything he touches turns to gold.

[Jordy]

Improve their home country before trying to improve the world :/
Seriously the money could have been used to help people in the UK yet they give a large sum like that to China , Also what are they going to do for the 2012 Olympics, I doubt they'll be able to afford to pay it off without tripling the taxes now :rolleyes:.Gawd I forgot about that, they're going to be such a disaster. I remember sitting in a bar in Paris with my Dad when they where announcing the results. Most people will remember that it was between London & Paris and all the French groaned when we won the Olympics, and my dad shouted out a loud 'DAMN!' - And I had a big grin on my face as I was the only person pleased, my Dad has always thought they'd be a disaster, and he's going to be so right, I changed my mind on this a while ago. We won the Olympics on how cheaply we could do it, on about 2 billion pounds I recall, it's already at about 9 billion pounds and set to rise :S

I'm dreading 2012, Britain's biggest muck-up.

[--ss--]

Gawd I forgot about that, they're going to be such a disaster. I remember sitting in a bar in Paris with my Dad when they where announcing the results. Most people will remember that it was between London & Paris and all the French groaned when we won the Olympics, and my dad shouted out a loud 'DAMN!' - And I had a big grin on my face as I was the only person pleased, my Dad has always thought they'd be a disaster, and he's going to be so right, I changed my mind on this a while ago. We won the Olympics on how cheaply we could do it, on about 2 billion pounds I recall, it's already at about 9 billion pounds and set to rise :S

I'm dreading 2012, Britain's biggest muck-up.
The worst thing about it is that almost everyone on here will be working age and will have to pay taxed , Seeing as there aren't going to be many people at working age in a few years time the taxes will have to increase to be able to pay the pensions for people , Also we will have to pay for the Olympics (I bet half the Londoners don't want it to be here anyway), So yay we will have like 15% of our wages taken unfairly :rolleyes:

[Mr.Sam]

we're making nuclear power stations not natural gas power stations.

Nuclear power is a type of nuclear technology (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_technology) involving the controlled use of nuclear fission (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_fission) to release energy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy) for work (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Work_%28thermodynamics%29) including propulsion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_propulsion), heat, and the generation of electricity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electricity). Nuclear energy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_energy) is produced by a controlled nuclear chain reaction (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_chain_reaction) and creates heat—which is used to boil (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boiling) water, produce steam (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steam), and drive a steam turbine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steam_turbine). The turbine can be used for mechanical work and also to generate electricity.


Isn't natural gas a fossil fuel? Because that's gonna run out too

[Blue]

But, thats what our 50 mill is going towards, China are buildling a new natural gas power station

[Technologic]

Tbh £50 mil is nothing to a government...

It's a tiny fraction of what is paid in tax

[Clowgon]

They gave them the money because of the new partnership deal with them. Meaning big
company's over here will be bulit over there. Brown gave them the money becuase of that.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Tbh £50 mil is nothing to a government...

It's a tiny fraction of what is paid in tax

Oh so I guess it doesn't matter that pensioners have to sell their houses to pay for their healthcare, I guess it doesn't matter that crime in going up :rolleyes:


They gave them the money because of the new partnership deal with them. Meaning big
company's over here will be bulit over there. Brown gave them the money becuase of that.

Business's will not come over here from China when they can make more in China, it is bull.