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-Eyeless-
21-01-2008, 09:39 PM
What does the articles department mean to you...?

Is it:

A Pointless Part of Habbox?
A part of Habbox that could be disposed of without anyone really noticing?Or is it:

A Place where you can get an incite into the future journalists and novelists of the world?
A place to find mental enlightenment and to find out new things?Well now you can tell us what it means to you... All you need to do is post here with your comments...

We want to know what you think about us, our work and what you think we should do...

Poll

Our poll is to see what you think of when you hear about the articles department/writers of habbox...

When you Hear about the articles department/writers of habbox, what do you think?

What is the articles department? or Habbox...? Writers...?
I don't really like it...
Never looked at it...
What is the point...
I like it...Finally

If you want to apply to be a Habbox Writer then Go HERE -----> Apply (http://habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=445176)

Moved by REDNECK (Forum Moderator) from Articles & Stories: This section suits this particular thread better :)

Neversoft
21-01-2008, 09:58 PM
Well being former Articles Manager I'm not going to say it sucks, but it has degraded over the past few months.

-Eyeless-
21-01-2008, 10:04 PM
There is definately a lack of interest, our recent attempts to get more trialists was dismal with only one application which wasnt quite up to par...

We need a lot of ideas, What do you think the department had when you think it was good?

Energizer
21-01-2008, 10:06 PM
poll option 1,3 & 4

-Eyeless-
21-01-2008, 10:11 PM
The articles department is a place to read what people from habbo/x have to say. It is also a place to get a look at people who love to write, to help them with their work and to see a controversial view on modern life...

BUT this is my view of what the articles department should be, and it should be more. If you want a managers definition then ask professor-alex...

Neversoft
21-01-2008, 10:35 PM
There is definately a lack of interest, our recent attempts to get more trialists was dismal with only one application which wasnt quite up to par...

We need a lot of ideas, What do you think the department had when you think it was good?

I may just find it a little dull now because I am no longer interested in Habbo.

I guess it entirely depends on what you like. If you're a trader, you're not going to be interested in the Articles section. But if you're the kinda guy that likes to make rooms, then you're going to be interested in Room Reviews and such. When I was into Habbo about 3 years ago I thought the Articles section was the best thing about Habbox. I remember the room reviews and interviews the most. They were very interesting and updated regularly. I don't think there are any interviews anymore are there? Well when I was Articles Manager I was in the process of removing them since it was so hard to find someone interesting and willing to interview.

Room Reviews are updated RARELY. There is some 2 month gaps inbetween some.

Thats one of the reasons the Articles section isnt what it used to be. There are no frequent Articles. A Room Review every two months? People who did enjoy the room reviews are going to get board of waiting and eventually stop looking or find different sites with Room Reviews.

If you want the Articles section to be successful, then you've got to update the articles frequently, come up with new ideas often (I still have a few that I never got around to introducing :P), make sure you're staff are happy (they don't want to be doing a boring job, otherwise they'd just leave. When I was articles manager I offered a prize to whoever done the most articles each week) and most importantly you've got to advertise. Without advertising no one is going to know the articles are there.

I know how hard it is to get people to work for the Articles department. People have seen the state of it, so they don't bother applying. When I was manager we opened up the applictions on the habbox.com site and allowed normal habbo users who didn't use the forum to apply. That was a big failure. Never do that. :P I don't think the Habbox site skin helps either. The old Habbox skin was jazzy and caught you're attention. The new one... whats so good about white? It's quite a dull colour. However I'm not sure anything can be done about that. Although maybe it's time Habbox had a change again to boost their reputation.

Thinking about the skin actually... It doesn't really attract anyone. Rare values is really the only major important section on Habbox now and people only use that because it's what everyone uses. I never knew anyone that didn't go by the Habbox rare values. Maybe I should PM sierk or something... If you get a more colourful and appealing site, more people are going to want to check out the rest.

The better Habbox looks, the more people are going to want to be part of it.

There was a Habbox directory site that was basically the old Habbox site, but I seem to have forgotten the link. If you know it, I could show you a few things that I as a Habbo user enjoyed back then.

Wow, I rambled on. Sierk should've edited my permissions so I could have still seen the Articles Staff Forum when I left, then I could have a continious input. :D I hope Sierk see's this post actually. :8

Creature, you're not even the Articles manager are you? It's nice to see staff actually taking interest in their job and wanting to help it further. :) I hope I've managed to help you. I hope you can be bothered to read all of this aswell. :P

le harry
22-01-2008, 09:26 AM
It's ok.. I've never really looked at it. But it seems alrighttt :)

-Eyeless-
22-01-2008, 01:20 PM
Creature, you're not even the Articles manager are you? It's nice to see staff actually taking interest in their job and wanting to help it further. :) I hope I've managed to help you. I hope you can be bothered to read all of this aswell. :P

No I am not... But I think its very important to help our dwindling department to get back to its former strength...

Thank you for your help, I have read it all and I will definitely show Professor-alex; who is the Articles Manager, and this will definitely help me in my research...

Thanks again,

!.:Creature:.!

-Xiangu-
22-01-2008, 04:08 PM
i just told alex to read it :)

The Professor
22-01-2008, 04:30 PM
Firstly, thanks for the extended post, I'm sure you could've done better things with your time :P


I may just find it a little dull now because I am no longer interested in Habbo.

The issue is something we are aware of, and in recent months we've tended to shift away from habbo based articles slightly. The stories, while often incorporating some habbo elements, would sit right at home on a site that posted non-habbo stories.

I guess it entirely depends on what you like. If you're a trader, you're not going to be interested in the Articles section. But if you're the kinda guy that likes to make rooms, then you're going to be interested in Room Reviews and such. When I was into Habbo about 3 years ago I thought the Articles section was the best thing about Habbox. I remember the room reviews and interviews the most. They were very interesting and updated regularly. I don't think there are any interviews anymore are there? Well when I was Articles Manager I was in the process of removing them since it was so hard to find someone interesting and willing to interview.

We do our best to appeal to everyone. Up until Lost-Shark resigned there were regular rares/trading based articles, there are story-type articles, and of course our resident ranter. However, like myself I believe the majority of the team don't play habbo as much any more, which makes it difficult to write about, and with a lack of new recruits it's fairly hard to rectify!

Room Reviews are updated RARELY. There is some 2 month gaps inbetween some.


Thats one of the reasons the Articles section isnt what it used to be. There are no frequent Articles. A Room Review every two months? People who did enjoy the room reviews are going to get board of waiting and eventually stop looking or find different sites with Room Reviews.

Fair point. Our room-review specialists resigned some time ago and the staff that were hired since tend to prefer to specialise in other areas, so the room reviews get ignored somewhat. I shall bring this up :)

If you want the Articles section to be successful, then you've got to update the articles frequently, come up with new ideas often (I still have a few that I never got around to introducing :P), make sure you're staff are happy (they don't want to be doing a boring job, otherwise they'd just leave. When I was articles manager I offered a prize to whoever done the most articles each week) and most importantly you've got to advertise. Without advertising no one is going to know the articles are there.

The point about staff being happy is one I know all too well. When PriceTags was manager and I was staff, we were extremely overworked for voluntary staff with the requirement set at 2 best-standard articles per week, which is simply too much (this is no reflection of PriceTags's management, I believe it was partly the decision of higher management too). With this in mind, the limit is set at 1 per week, which gives the article time to be researched, refined and rewritten as necessary, while also drastically reducing the workload on each writer. Of course, for this to work, we need a larger team, and at the moment we simply don't have the numbers!

However, the tactic appears to be working very well in terms of the happiness of staff. The staff forum is extremely active, with a very relaxed atmosphere. As seen by creature's post, the staff genuinely want to do their job well and the enthusiasm shows in the finished results. The current writers have all been staff for circa 2 months, which is usually the point where people decide they can't be bothered and resign. But the current set of writers have to be commended on their commitment :)

I know how hard it is to get people to work for the Articles department. People have seen the state of it, so they don't bother applying. When I was manager we opened up the applictions on the habbox.com site and allowed normal habbo users who didn't use the forum to apply. That was a big failure. Never do that. :P I don't think the Habbox site skin helps either. The old Habbox skin was jazzy and caught you're attention. The new one... whats so good about white? It's quite a dull colour. However I'm not sure anything can be done about that. Although maybe it's time Habbox had a change again to boost their reputation.

The lack of applications is the main cause of many of the problems you mentioned. If we'd have had them, the team would consist of 8/9 writers now, producing that many articles per week, all of varied topics and styles. As it happens, we have a grand total of 3 and myself, and while the articles are still good quality, there just isn't enough variety in them to keep everyone happy.


Thinking about the skin actually... It doesn't really attract anyone. Rare values is really the only major important section on Habbox now and people only use that because it's what everyone uses. I never knew anyone that didn't go by the Habbox rare values. Maybe I should PM sierk or something... If you get a more colourful and appealing site, more people are going to want to check out the rest.

If I'm correct, a new skin is in the pipeline, so sit tight ;)

The better Habbox looks, the more people are going to want to be part of it.

There was a Habbox directory site that was basically the old Habbox site, but I seem to have forgotten the link. If you know it, I could show you a few things that I as a Habbo user enjoyed back then.

Wow, I rambled on. Sierk should've edited my permissions so I could have still seen the Articles Staff Forum when I left, then I could have a continious input. :D I hope Sierk see's this post actually. :8

Creature, you're not even the Articles manager are you? It's nice to see staff actually taking interest in their job and wanting to help it further. :) I hope I've managed to help you. I hope you can be bothered to read all of this aswell. :P

Each one of the staff have been doing managerial-like things recently, such as providing large amounts of input into possible new initiatives, coming up with brand new ideas, helping each other through constructive criticism and even the small things such as putting an advert for the articles applications in their signitures. Its amazing to think that people put this much effort into what essentially is a voluntary job on a fansite, and each one deserves more than I can give him in terms of praise. There are plans to introduce a "senior writer" position as some sort of reward/promotion, but without new trialists that has been put on hold!

To summarise: My feeling on the department is that the staff have the right attitude and are doing their utmost to make sure the articles and the department is as good as possible, but low numbers makes effective production nigh on impossible. If anyone wants to take a hint, the link is in my signiture ;)

Alex

Neversoft
22-01-2008, 04:43 PM
No I am not... But I think its very important to help our dwindling department to get back to its former strength...

Thank you for your help, I have read it all and I will definitely show Professor-alex; who is the Articles Manager, and this will definitely help me in my research...

Thanks again,

!.:Creature:.!

Looking at the Habbox Staff list I could only see writers, and there are only 3 of them including you. Has the way people submit articles been changed? What happened to room reviewers and interviewers?

The Professor
22-01-2008, 04:57 PM
That was changed a while ago. Writers are free to interview, review rooms or write articles as they please. Being tied to one area gets boring after a while. I know that writing a review was definately a nice break from the article-style articles.

-Xiangu-
22-01-2008, 04:58 PM
To submit an article all you do is select the catergory you are posting it in. I have no idea about the certain jobs called reviewers and interviewers, but we all try our very best to provide a good and enjoyable read for the people that use habbox.

PriceTags
22-01-2008, 05:14 PM
To submit an article all you do is select the catergory you are posting it in. I have no idea about the certain jobs called reviewers and interviewers, but we all try our very best to provide a good and enjoyable read for the people that use habbox.

Well a long time ago, there were Interviewers, Room Reviewers and Writers, who did what they were meant to, and nothing else. Then I think -Wolverine introduced poets, and then Mrs.McCall let people do their main job, and a bit on the side. So it must have changed while Alex was manager.

Neversoft
22-01-2008, 05:17 PM
Firstly, thanks for the extended post, I'm sure you could've done better things with your time :P



To summarise: My feeling on the department is that the staff have the right attitude and are doing their utmost to make sure the articles and the department is as good as possible, but low numbers makes effective production nigh on impossible. If anyone wants to take a hint, the link is in my signiture ;)

Alex

Well, I think you should do an even amount of non-habbo and habbo related articles. That will most probably boost you're appeal to everyone. If you're doing more non-habbo related articles, people who want to read about habbo are going to look elsewhere. It needs to be balanced.

Yeah, I guess it is a lot harder when you don't play habbo anymore. However, you don't need to play Habbo often to be a room reviewer.

I am really stuck on how you'll get new recruits. I would apply myself and help out, but then I woudn't be allowed in the Habbox Council. Maybe theres some way I can help out without being staff?

I'm not sure if you're aware of what I did on HabMate. But I am Articles Manager on there aswell and what I did was got rid of every article job, writer, room reviewer, interviewer, etc. And made it so that the staff are no longer permitted to one area of articles, they can do whatever article they wanted. But I also stated that while being allowed to do any article, you couldn't do the same type over and over. Like you can't keep doing poems, or interviews. You have to spread it around a little. I was quite pleased I came up with that idea, it gets most articles done while allowing the staff more freedom. If you haven't already, I suggest you have a talk to whoever your superior is and try get that system in place.

When I was manager I asked for 2 articles every 2 weeks. Which is the equivalent to 1 article every week, but it gives them more time. If a staff member is ill for a week, then they won't get their article done. But if they're ill for a week, they still have another week to get the article done. That means they'll have 1 week to do 2 articles, but thats more than enough time.

Also when I was manager, I wanted to do a few articles myself to help the staff situation and things. However, I never got around to it since I left soon after. If you could do a few articles every now and then, that might help. Although it might be hard with your jobs and stuff.

I left as articles manager due to lack of support. Mainly 8Freak8 was a busy guy back then and couldn't reply to my PM's and there was no assistant manager who I could discuss new ideas with. I don't know who's taken over for 8Freak8 now, is it Nvrspk? If so, then thats good. Thats improved, he replies to PMs. :P But you don't seem to be getting the support you deserve, I know exactly how you feel. I'm not sure how you can get around this, as I just gave up when I was in this situation, but you should ask superior staff to help out with getting applications, advertising and things since there is a low amount of article staff.

Well thats good to hear. :) Atleast thats something! If the staff show how happy they are writing articles then maybe more people will apply. A good atmosphere really helps. :D

Yeah, that is another thing I'm stuck on. The only way I think you would get more applications is if you advertise and make the articles section on Habox look nice. Thats all I can come up with at the moment, I'll have to think more on this one.

New skin!? Thank god! Things can only get better from there.

Ah, cool! Sounds good! Do you have an Idea Suggestion thread in the article staff forums?
Yep, it is supprising how much effort people put into a voluntary job. I think it actually has a good impact on what you want to do as an actual job. I want to be a Journalist in a few years time, thats why I apply for Articles Staff. I'm sure I'm not the only one either, I know FlyingJesus applied as Articles staff on HabMate because he liked writing poems. People with near enough the same skills can then comment on others work, tell them how to improve and such.

Senior Wirter? What would that involve? Would it be like Assistant Manager?

I would absolutely love to help out. :P However things are awkward because it would either be Habbox Council or Articles Staff for me. Perhaps I would have more input if I make it on the council anyway. If you need any help I'm always here though. ;)


That was changed a while ago. Writers are free to interview, review rooms or write articles as they please. Being tied to one area gets boring after a while. I know that writing a review was definately a nice break from the article-style articles.

Oh, so you did put that system in place. :D
Some people might not know, if you haven't already, you should advertise that you have a different system in place. Back when I was manager is was room reviews, interviews and other articles such as poems, reviews and stories.
Some people might even want to do articles that no one has ever suggest, but thought they wouldn't be allowed to do them, until now. :)


To submit an article all you do is select the catergory you are posting it in. I have no idea about the certain jobs called reviewers and interviewers, but we all try our very best to provide a good and enjoyable read for the people that use habbox.

If you have no idea about some jobs, you should ask what they are and see if you can help out. :) Although there are some article jobs not everyone can do. I know that there would be a lot more people on here that can write a website review better than me. :P

-Xiangu-
22-01-2008, 06:11 PM
I do know what a review takes hense my MMORPG Reviews series. I think I introduced the short stories series idea which Creature has done a marvelous job on doing aswell prodiving a gripping and tense story. I see where your coming from. The only reason I don't at the moment write room reviews is because i find habbo almost completely dull. Since my first account on here in 05 I have always wanted to be a writer and now I am. The team we have now I think is really great. Dan, and Creature continously give great articles. Creature is pretty much unable to do room reviews because he cannot access Habbo. I also think putting more work onto Alex would completely crush him. He already has a ton of stuff to do as he has said to me and so I think for the time being Alex shouldn't have to write Articles.

Catzsy
22-01-2008, 06:57 PM
Well, I think you should do an even amount of non-habbo and habbo related articles. That will most probably boost you're appeal to everyone. If you're doing more non-habbo related articles, people who want to read about habbo are going to look elsewhere. It needs to be balanced.

Yeah, I guess it is a lot harder when you don't play habbo anymore. However, you don't need to play Habbo often to be a room reviewer.

I am really stuck on how you'll get new recruits. I would apply myself and help out, but then I woudn't be allowed in the Habbox Council. Maybe theres some way I can help out without being staff?

I'm not sure if you're aware of what I did on HabMate. But I am Articles Manager on there aswell and what I did was got rid of every article job, writer, room reviewer, interviewer, etc. And made it so that the staff are no longer permitted to one area of articles, they can do whatever article they wanted. But I also stated that while being allowed to do any article, you couldn't do the same type over and over. Like you can't keep doing poems, or interviews. You have to spread it around a little. I was quite pleased I came up with that idea, it gets most articles done while allowing the staff more freedom. If you haven't already, I suggest you have a talk to whoever your superior is and try get that system in place.

When I was manager I asked for 2 articles every 2 weeks. Which is the equivalent to 1 article every week, but it gives them more time. If a staff member is ill for a week, then they won't get their article done. But if they're ill for a week, they still have another week to get the article done. That means they'll have 1 week to do 2 articles, but thats more than enough time.

Also when I was manager, I wanted to do a few articles myself to help the staff situation and things. However, I never got around to it since I left soon after. If you could do a few articles every now and then, that might help. Although it might be hard with your jobs and stuff.

I left as articles manager due to lack of support. Mainly 8Freak8 was a busy guy back then and couldn't reply to my PM's and there was no assistant manager who I could discuss new ideas with. I don't know who's taken over for 8Freak8 now, is it Nvrspk? If so, then thats good. Thats improved, he replies to PMs. :P But you don't seem to be getting the support you deserve, I know exactly how you feel. I'm not sure how you can get around this, as I just gave up when I was in this situation, but you should ask superior staff to help out with getting applications, advertising and things since there is a low amount of article staff.

Well thats good to hear. :) Atleast thats something! If the staff show how happy they are writing articles then maybe more people will apply. A good atmosphere really helps. :D

Yeah, that is another thing I'm stuck on. The only way I think you would get more applications is if you advertise and make the articles section on Habox look nice. Thats all I can come up with at the moment, I'll have to think more on this one.

New skin!? Thank god! Things can only get better from there.

Ah, cool! Sounds good! Do you have an Idea Suggestion thread in the article staff forums?
Yep, it is supprising how much effort people put into a voluntary job. I think it actually has a good impact on what you want to do as an actual job. I want to be a Journalist in a few years time, thats why I apply for Articles Staff. I'm sure I'm not the only one either, I know FlyingJesus applied as Articles staff on HabMate because he liked writing poems. People with near enough the same skills can then comment on others work, tell them how to improve and such.

Senior Wirter? What would that involve? Would it be like Assistant Manager?

I would absolutely love to help out. :P However things are awkward because it would either be Habbox Council or Articles Staff for me. Perhaps I would have more input if I make it on the council anyway. If you need any help I'm always here though. ;)



Oh, so you did put that system in place. :D
Some people might not know, if you haven't already, you should advertise that you have a different system in place. Back when I was manager is was room reviews, interviews and other articles such as poems, reviews and stories.
Some people might even want to do articles that no one has ever suggest, but thought they wouldn't be allowed to do them, until now. :)



If you have no idea about some jobs, you should ask what they are and see if you can help out. :) Although there are some article jobs not everyone can do. I know that there would be a lot more people on here that can write a website review better than me. :P


You were a really good articles manager on Habbox and have loads of experience so hopefully someone will take something positive from from your suggestions :) Creative people need a different approach from Management staff. Perhaps a little less 'stuffed shirt' maybe as you certainly were.

-Xiangu-
22-01-2008, 07:17 PM
You were a really good articles manager on Habbox and have loads of experience so hopefully someone will take something positive from from your suggestions :) Creative people need a different approach from Management staff. Perhaps a little less 'stuffed shirt' maybe as you certainly were.

what does thst mean lol?

Catzsy
22-01-2008, 07:32 PM
You were a really good articles manager on Habbox and have loads of experience so hopefully someone will take something positive from from your suggestions :) Creative people need a different approach from Management staff. Perhaps a little less 'stuffed shirt' maybe as you certainly were.

what does thst mean lol?

Its means a more laid back and less rank concious or formal to allow them their creative expression. Creative people do not thrive under pressure.

Neversoft
22-01-2008, 07:45 PM
I do know what a review takes hense my MMORPG Reviews series. I think I introduced the short stories series idea which Creature has done a marvelous job on doing aswell prodiving a gripping and tense story. I see where your coming from. The only reason I don't at the moment write room reviews is because i find habbo almost completely dull.

Even if you do find Habbo dull, you have to admit, some rooms are pretty fascinating. :P

There is an official Habbox Room Review thread in the Cool Rooms section which I made and stuck when I was manager, however it seems to have died. Perhaps we should get that going again.


Since my first account on here in 05 I have always wanted to be a writer and now I am. The team we have now I think is really great. Dan, and Creature continously give great articles. Creature is pretty much unable to do room reviews because he cannot access Habbo.

Yeah, I'm sure it is great. I am not doubting any of your work. :)


I also think putting more work onto Alex would completely crush him. He already has a ton of stuff to do as he has said to me and so I think for the time being Alex shouldn't have to write Articles.

It was only a suggestion. ;)


You were a really good articles manager on Habbox and have loads of experience so hopefully someone will take something positive from from your suggestions :) Creative people need a different approach from Management staff. Perhaps a little less 'stuffed shirt' maybe as you certainly were.

8Freak8 said I had done of the best jobs getting the articles back on track. Unfortunately it wasn't enough though.
I do hope some management read this thread, or even sierk himself. Surely he is aware of the current Article situation?
Haha, indeed. :P I think all management and staff should be more laid back. It would be a better atmosphere, easier working conditions, people would be more happy.

-Xiangu-
22-01-2008, 07:47 PM
Oh! I understand pefectly now. Alex is a really good and laid back manager. Writing an article doesn't feel like a chore. Its a really good working enviroment

edit: to never's post i never knew of any official habbox cool rooms lol! looks like that thread may very well need some reviving

-Eyeless-
22-01-2008, 07:47 PM
You were a really good articles manager on Habbox and have loads of experience so hopefully someone will take something positive from from your suggestions :) Creative people need a different approach from Management staff. Perhaps a little less 'stuffed shirt' maybe as you certainly were.

In reply to that, we are taking all of this information/help and trying to use what we can. Professor-Alex (Articles Manager) is going to read through all of the suggestions and see how we can use them. Also we as a team constantly bring new ideas to the table for Alex to contemplate.

Thank you for your help

!.:Creature:.!

Neversoft
22-01-2008, 07:48 PM
Oh! I understand pefectly now. Alex is a really good and laid back manager. Writing an article doesn't feel like a chore. Its a really good working enviroment

Yeah, I think Articles is probably the best enviroment to work in.
Josh was a really good manager when I was a room reviewer. :D

-Xiangu-
22-01-2008, 07:51 PM
No idea who josh is :)

-Eyeless-
22-01-2008, 07:54 PM
Wooot Just got another trialist to sign up, I hope he is good :P

-Xiangu-
22-01-2008, 07:56 PM
good :P, I hope his application is a good one, post his name in the staff bit :)

Neversoft
22-01-2008, 07:58 PM
No idea who josh is :)

Joshuar (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=3271), I'm sure you've seen him around. :)

-Xiangu-
22-01-2008, 08:00 PM
oh yes him :P

FlyingJesus
22-01-2008, 11:27 PM
A Place where you can get an incite into the future journalists and novelists of the world?This is the first thing I noticed in the thread; a writer who has spelt "insight" incorrectly attempting to promote the articles section.


Got original Ideas, a great mind AND GOOD Spelling and Grammar?

This also struck me as odd, because it's appalling in terms of grammar.

zeJosh
23-01-2008, 09:35 AM
Hope I get accepted. :)

-Xiangu-
23-01-2008, 02:44 PM
This is the first thing I noticed in the thread; a writer who has spelt "insight" incorrectly attempting to promote the articles section.

Everyone makes mistakes :).


This also struck me as odd, because it's appalling in terms of grammar.

Its a signature it doesn't need to be perfect.

FlyingJesus
23-01-2008, 04:53 PM
Perhaps not but writers should really have some grasp of language.

Inseriousity.
23-01-2008, 06:27 PM
There is definately a lack of interest, our recent attempts to get more trialists was dismal with only one application which wasnt quite up to par...

Fine, I won't bother next time. People don't want to write after school/work so writing articles 2 times a week (or whatever the requirement is here) makes it harder to get those good writers but they can't be bothered doing the job.

Articles has always been a background job. You need constant ideas. For HabboNation, I used a 'Service with a smile' which basicially meant a user on the forum/site would request which room they wanted to see reviewed on the site. The writers would then have to review the room that the person requested and that's a way to get readers from the forum onto the site to read them and also gets writers writing!

Neversoft
23-01-2008, 06:28 PM
Someone get management to look at this thread. I want feedback on my post (http://www.habboxforum.com/showpost.php?p=4379775&postcount=15). :P

-Eyeless-
23-01-2008, 07:11 PM
Perhaps not but writers should really have some grasp of language.

If you want to see my grasp of language then please look at my articles...


Fine, I won't bother next time. People don't want to write after school/work so writing articles 2 times a week (or whatever the requirement is here) makes it harder to get those good writers but they can't be bothered doing the job.

I said it wasn't up to par, this means that you probably weren't quite good enough to become a writer. It was not up to me if you were good enough or not, so don't let my words deter you from trying again. Not being mean or anything but your last sentence in the quote doesn't make sense. I can understand, but you see what I mean.

I totally agree that some people would have trouble writing two articles a week, this is why we are only asked to do one.

Inseriousity.
23-01-2008, 07:19 PM
If you want to see my grasp of language then please look at my articles...



I said it wasn't up to par, this means that you probably weren't quite good enough to become a writer. It was not up to me if you were good enough or not, so don't let my words deter you from trying again. Not being mean or anything but your last sentence in the quote doesn't make sense. I can understand, but you see what I mean.

I totally agree that some people would have trouble writing two articles a week, this is why we are only asked to do one.

Well, if I'm not good enough now with all the experience that I've acquired over the years, then I won't be good enough whenever they next open. And yes, you're right. That last sentence makes no sense lmao. What I meant was 'It's hard to find good writers who want to write in their free time but most can't be bothered. "Writing's for school, not in my leisure time"'

edit: Even one is too much work for some people ;)

zeJosh
23-01-2008, 07:25 PM
edit: Even one is too much work for some people ;)

That's why some people, don't apply for a writers job?

Inseriousity.
23-01-2008, 07:28 PM
Exactly! Hence the low number of applications ;)

-Eyeless-
23-01-2008, 07:37 PM
I wouldn't say one article would deter people too much. For instance I am in the middle of my final GCSE year yet I am still managing to juggle that and writing an article. I have a lot of work but I still manage to get at least 4.0 grade average all year round... Its out of five incase you don't know... :P not meaning to be patronizing.

zeJosh
23-01-2008, 07:43 PM
Exactly! Hence the low number of applications ;)

Hence that most people who apply are lazy.

Inseriousity.
23-01-2008, 07:48 PM
I wouldn't say one article would deter people too much. For instance I am in the middle of my final GCSE year yet I am still managing to juggle that and writing an article. I have a lot of work but I still manage to get at least 4.0 grade average all year round... Its out of five incase you don't know... :P not meaning to be patronizing.

Some people would still find it as a chore though. I'm just looking through the eyes of some people... not just myself ;)

and ps... this thread may be about the articles department but I think it should go on Habbox feedback forum. :)

-Eyeless-
23-01-2008, 08:02 PM
But it is for regular members to not just for staff to reply to.

-Xiangu-
23-01-2008, 08:11 PM
Harry, if you find that writing is boring after school or work then why bother applying. Not to sound rude but if you can't be bothered to do the work don't waste Alex' time by sending an application when you really don't want to work

Inseriousity.
24-01-2008, 06:12 PM
I never said I was one of those people! Nah, I love to write. Maybe not English essays but I like writing articles, interviewing people and reviewing a room then getting thanks from the owner :)

zeJosh
25-01-2008, 12:36 AM
I never said I was one of those people! Nah, I love to write. Maybe not English essays but I like writing articles, interviewing people and reviewing a room then getting thanks from the owner :)


Why are you complaining then?

Inseriousity.
25-01-2008, 06:44 PM
I'm not complaining lmao! :)

Creature said 'the recent attempt to get applicants was dismal' and I explained that one of the many reasons for this was due to some people not wanting to write outside of school/work. I never once mentioned that I was one of these people.... or that it was a complaint!

-Eyeless-
25-01-2008, 06:50 PM
I'm not complaining lmao! :)

Creature said 'the recent attempt to get applicants was dismal' and I explained that one of the many reasons for this was due to some people not wanting to write outside of school/work. I never once mentioned that I was one of these people.... or that it was a complaint!

Please stop arguing this thread isn't to do with "Owning" each other or whatever you call it...:rolleyes:

Inseriousity.
25-01-2008, 08:50 PM
Yeah, you're right. Getting a bit out of hand now... my bad :(

Neversoft said everything you can do to improve the department. It's just sticking to them that is the hard part :)

You could do some competition as well on the forum to increase readers. I remember doing a Harry Potter quest in July to celebrate the release of the 7th book and because the owners had nothing to do for July, it became the monthly event with an official skin and everything! So yeah, competitions and quests will increase popularity within the department... even if it is only for a couple of weeks though...

-Eyeless-
25-01-2008, 09:17 PM
We have a possibility of some new writers... But I can't tell you who or why or anything, but if you are intersted then keep an eye out...

-Xiangu-
25-01-2008, 09:59 PM
I honestly do doubt the competitions idea as it would only attract greedy people who want habbo hotel furni. Most of the writers barely use habbo so it wouldn't be very good anyway. Also I beleive that if a competition were to go ahead then it would have to be a writing competition within the forum.

-Eyeless-
25-01-2008, 10:04 PM
I honestly do doubt the competitions idea as it would only attract greedy people who want habbo hotel furni. Most of the writers barely use habbo so it wouldn't be very good anyway. Also I beleive that if a competition were to go ahead then it would have to be a writing competition within the forum.

I agree the idea seems a bit far fetched due to the lack of habbo goers within the articles department... Not that you could tell that harrypotterfan1234534432 lol

pedz2221
26-01-2008, 09:52 AM
Well being former Articles Manager I'm not going to say it sucks, but it has degraded over the past few months.

i second that.

-Eyeless-
26-01-2008, 12:13 PM
i second that.

It is true, but not helpful... A suggestion along with that statement would have been better...

Inseriousity.
26-01-2008, 03:15 PM
A writing competition would be a competition nevertheless and it was the general idea I was getting at. :)

And it is not a farfetched idea as one would assume being a Habbo fansite that the writers who write room reviews (rooms are on Habbo) would use Habbo to at least write them. Then you can at least use Habbo to do small competitions. And yes, greedy Habbos are better than no Habbos... :( and anyway, not all people who do competitions are greedy.

If you need help, you could ask the Events Manager to see if you can make a combined event (related to writing, books etc).

Or do a competition to find the hidden clues in the articles. That has nothing to do with Habbo. It's amazing how some ideas can evolve to have good ideas.

ps. creature, I prefer to be called Inseriousity. (or Mike) as it's people like you who make fun of a name that made me decide to create a new account. :(

-Xiangu-
26-01-2008, 11:19 PM
Yes, different departments need to start working together. Perhaps events and articles would be a good match. I will ask Alex

-Eyeless-
26-01-2008, 11:40 PM
ps. creature, I prefer to be called Inseriousity. (or Mike) as it's people like you who make fun of a name that made me decide to create a new account. :(

I wasn't being rude I was trying to remember your name... Mike :)

Inseriousity.
27-01-2008, 10:07 AM
Sorry then. Thought you were taking the mick :p

And yes, I think the Articles department is very versatile. You can join almost any department with maybe a few exceptions...

Articles - Radio = Radio could promote the articles on the site. Draw people's attention to it.

Articles - Events = Can do a major event to promote the articles and also the events team. It works well as it goes both ways.

lmao, I don't know all the departments here because I've only been interested in a few :)

Fez
28-01-2008, 02:17 PM
I post poetry now and then...

-Xiangu-
28-01-2008, 05:18 PM
Purpleness if you enjoy writing poems and would be able to write one once a week then send Professor-Alex an application

Dan2nd
28-01-2008, 08:43 PM
I don't really read it I'm afraid ..... maybe you could do real life news aswell it'd be quite ineresting from a teenagers perspective?

-Xiangu-
28-01-2008, 09:37 PM
good idea dan, I will make a note of that

Dan2nd
28-01-2008, 09:47 PM
good idea dan, I will make a note of that

meh I was just thinking it'd certainly attract me to read the Habbox articles I kind of remember another fansite doing it but I don't remember which one.... meh ah well like I said it'd be cool =D

-Xiangu-
28-01-2008, 09:51 PM
we do have non habbo articles and real world articles most of the time now

Dan2nd
28-01-2008, 10:01 PM
we do have non habbo articles and real world articles most of the time now

really :S never noticed I'll pay attention for now on then :D

-Xiangu-
28-01-2008, 10:08 PM
good o

dannyisnotamazing
28-01-2008, 10:09 PM
2,3,4 but Alex is cool so number 5 all the way.

Neversoft
30-01-2008, 11:50 PM
Well, I think you should do an even amount of non-habbo and habbo related articles. That will most probably boost you're appeal to everyone. If you're doing more non-habbo related articles, people who want to read about habbo are going to look elsewhere. It needs to be balanced.

Yeah, I guess it is a lot harder when you don't play habbo anymore. However, you don't need to play Habbo often to be a room reviewer.

I am really stuck on how you'll get new recruits. I would apply myself and help out, but then I woudn't be allowed in the Habbox Council. Maybe theres some way I can help out without being staff?

I'm not sure if you're aware of what I did on HabMate. But I am Articles Manager on there aswell and what I did was got rid of every article job, writer, room reviewer, interviewer, etc. And made it so that the staff are no longer permitted to one area of articles, they can do whatever article they wanted. But I also stated that while being allowed to do any article, you couldn't do the same type over and over. Like you can't keep doing poems, or interviews. You have to spread it around a little. I was quite pleased I came up with that idea, it gets most articles done while allowing the staff more freedom. If you haven't already, I suggest you have a talk to whoever your superior is and try get that system in place.

When I was manager I asked for 2 articles every 2 weeks. Which is the equivalent to 1 article every week, but it gives them more time. If a staff member is ill for a week, then they won't get their article done. But if they're ill for a week, they still have another week to get the article done. That means they'll have 1 week to do 2 articles, but thats more than enough time.

Also when I was manager, I wanted to do a few articles myself to help the staff situation and things. However, I never got around to it since I left soon after. If you could do a few articles every now and then, that might help. Although it might be hard with your jobs and stuff.

I left as articles manager due to lack of support. Mainly 8Freak8 was a busy guy back then and couldn't reply to my PM's and there was no assistant manager who I could discuss new ideas with. I don't know who's taken over for 8Freak8 now, is it Nvrspk? If so, then thats good. Thats improved, he replies to PMs. :P But you don't seem to be getting the support you deserve, I know exactly how you feel. I'm not sure how you can get around this, as I just gave up when I was in this situation, but you should ask superior staff to help out with getting applications, advertising and things since there is a low amount of article staff.

Well thats good to hear. :) Atleast thats something! If the staff show how happy they are writing articles then maybe more people will apply. A good atmosphere really helps. :D

Yeah, that is another thing I'm stuck on. The only way I think you would get more applications is if you advertise and make the articles section on Habox look nice. Thats all I can come up with at the moment, I'll have to think more on this one.

New skin!? Thank god! Things can only get better from there.

Ah, cool! Sounds good! Do you have an Idea Suggestion thread in the article staff forums?
Yep, it is supprising how much effort people put into a voluntary job. I think it actually has a good impact on what you want to do as an actual job. I want to be a Journalist in a few years time, thats why I apply for Articles Staff. I'm sure I'm not the only one either, I know FlyingJesus applied as Articles staff on HabMate because he liked writing poems. People with near enough the same skills can then comment on others work, tell them how to improve and such.

Senior Wirter? What would that involve? Would it be like Assistant Manager?

I would absolutely love to help out. :P However things are awkward because it would either be Habbox Council or Articles Staff for me. Perhaps I would have more input if I make it on the council anyway. If you need any help I'm always here though. ;)



Oh, so you did put that system in place. :D
Some people might not know, if you haven't already, you should advertise that you have a different system in place. Back when I was manager is was room reviews, interviews and other articles such as poems, reviews and stories.
Some people might even want to do articles that no one has ever suggest, but thought they wouldn't be allowed to do them, until now. :)



If you have no idea about some jobs, you should ask what they are and see if you can help out. :) Although there are some article jobs not everyone can do. I know that there would be a lot more people on here that can write a website review better than me. :P

Is my post going to be forwarded to management or anything because I feel I typed all that for nothing.

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