What Defines A Super?

[absode]

I always assumed a super is a rare which has not been released... except through a competition or a habbo event.

However i was thinking... Hasn't all 3 of the habbo trophies been in the catalogue? Wern't the 2 lasers near enough given away? I don't understand this... and why is a throne not a super although if it was never released?

Care to explain to me someone?

[snorkels]

Thrones, samovars, and holoboys were all given as gifts from ione.
It's been brought up before, and big crazes about them.
They should be considered supers in my opinion, but Habbox has made them 'normals'

[absode]

It's just confusing.. all supers should have the same rules, not some diffrent.

[21tcripps]

The lazers are supers cuz they where given out when some1 bougth enough creds

you'r right about the HABBO tropies where in the cat for a short time but so was the Green Pillow and Green icm

[Orangeesh]

The HABBO trophies were released for a bit but it was 'by accident' according to habbo

so techincally there still super. They wer in cat for only 10 mins i think

The ione gifts are supers but habbox sees them as normals.
Lasers are supers

[-:Undertaker:-]

I always assumed a super is a rare which has not been released... except through a competition or a habbo event.

However i was thinking... Hasn't all 3 of the habbo trophies been in the catalogue? Wern't the 2 lasers near enough given away? I don't understand this... and why is a throne not a super although if it was never released?

Care to explain to me someone?

This is what define supers.


Hasn't been avalible in catalogue on purpose.sierk and 8Freak7 chose to ignore the ione Gifts even though there was massive public support for their correct move into super rare. The Lasers can be bought yes, but they were not in the catalogue and arrived in presents. The Red Iced is a super because it was given out and never sold just like the ione Gifts. The Habbo Trophies came out by mistake thus they are super.

[@xP]

sierk and 8Freak7 chose to ignore the ione Gifts even though there was massive public support for their correct move into super rare. The Lasers can be bought yes, but they were not in the catalogue and arrived in presents. The Red Iced is a super because it was given out and never sold just like the ione Gifts. The Habbo Trophies came out by mistake thus they are super.

I second this comment.


Super;

If a piece of rare furniture hasn't been available in the catalogue or it was released in the catalogue by a accident. ie, Dino's, Typo's, Rare Trophies are all defindes a super as they have not been released into the catalouge.
However Sky dragons were given out as a prize and not released in to the catalouge but they are still super as many people don't have them.

[Flamedragon3]

Supers are rares that haven't been released in the catalogue (excluding ones that were accidently released). But the reason why Sierk and 8Freak8 wanted to keep the Throne, Samover and Holopod as 'Normal Rares' was because there was such a large amount of them. Personally I think Thrones, Samovers and Holopods should count as supers. But it would be very weird without throne in the 'Normal Values'.

Also, nearly every super has been in the catalogue :) Even the Throne, Samover and Holopod :P But for only five minutes.

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=135879

(Second Post)

[-:Undertaker:-]

Supers are rares that haven't been released in the catalogue (excluding ones that were accidently released). But the reason why Sierk and 8Freak8 wanted to keep the Throne, Samover and Holopod as 'Normal Rares' was because there was such a large amount of them. Personally I think Thrones, Samovers and Holopods should count as supers. But it would be very weird without throne in the 'Normal Values'.

Also, nearly every super has been in the catalogue :) Even the Throne, Samover and Holopod :P But for only five minutes.

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=135879

(Second Post)

It can be harder to find Russian Samovars than Security Fences/Typewriters at times, especially before the ione gift rise the Samovars were one of the hardest rares to find :)

[Orangeesh]

It can be harder to find Russian Samovars than Security Fences/Typewriters at times, especially before the ione gift rise the Samovars were one of the hardest rares to find :)

samovars and holoboys are underpriced compared to the throne which is probably overpriced but it's always gone by demand and not rareness :D

[Sharpsterz]

Not The Throne, Savoer + Holpod Arguement Again Please

I Think Supers Are Defined By There Looks Mainly

[Hazza]

Supers are rares that haven't been released in the catalogue (excluding ones that were accidently released). But the reason why Sierk and 8Freak8 wanted to keep the Throne, Samover and Holopod as 'Normal Rares' was because there was such a large amount of them. Personally I think Thrones, Samovers and Holopods should count as supers. But it would be very weird without throne in the 'Normal Values'.

Also, nearly every super has been in the catalogue :) Even the Throne, Samover and Holopod :P But for only five minutes.

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=135879

(Second Post)
Thanks for that thread.
5 credits for the throne? - wow.
I wish they would do that now:P.

And Sharp, how can you say that?
Could I go... The Pink Fan looks amazing - its now a super rare? - Er, no.

[Sharpsterz]

Thanks for that thread.
5 credits for the throne? - wow.
I wish they would do that now:P.

And Sharp, how can you say that?
Could I go... The Pink Fan looks amazing - its now a super rare? - Er, no.

No Im Saying SUPER RARES are defined by there looks didnt mention normal rares :)

[-:Undertaker:-]

Not The Throne, Savoer + Holpod Arguement Again Please

I Think Supers Are Defined By There Looks Mainly

No one is argueing about them, infact you have just created an arguement, people can say what they like about the ione Gifts as it shouldn't be up to a fansite to go against the publics will. Anyway I disagree on the looks. The super rares below look nothing like eachother.

http://www.hhgs.net/radiodjpanel/uploads/bubblegumicm.gif (http://hhgs.net/radiodjpanel/rares/calculator.php?mode=add&add=240.0)http://www.hhgs.net/danny/dan/redmarqyee.png (http://hhgs.net/radiodjpanel/rares/calculator.php?mode=add&add=114.0)http://hhgs.net/danny/normal_rares/RussianSamovar.gif (http://hhgs.net/radiodjpanel/rares/calculator.php?mode=add&add=1.5)http://hhgs.net/danny/supers/red_iced_chair.JPG (http://hhgs.net/radiodjpanel/rares/calculator.php?mode=add&add=0.5)http://hhgs.net/danny/supers/gold_sleeping_bag.JPG (http://hhgs.net/radiodjpanel/rares/calculator.php?mode=add&add=132.0)http://hhgs.net/danny/super/DinoEgg.gif (http://hhgs.net/radiodjpanel/rares/calculator.php?mode=add&add=121.0)

[Hazza]

So if I said 'What is a super rare?' you would answer 'Something that looks nice'
I'm not sure you know what 'define' means - google it x

[Flamedragon3]

It can be harder to find Russian Samovars than Security Fences/Typewriters at times, especially before the ione gift rise the Samovars were one of the hardest rares to find :)

I have 17 Samover's, I can't find many Security Fences and Junius has 142 Typewriter's, or more if he found more to buy.


The Samover's can be hard to find because I think most people just have them in bulks and they were released 5 and a half years ago. But other rares that were released a long time ago are also almost impossible to find. Like the Bird Bath (grey), which I think will be released this summer. And the Aloe Vera is very hard to find, because some have lots in bulk (Aloe.Vera and I found a guy with 15+ before) and they were also released a long time ago.

As for the Typewriter, people are finding them extremly hard to find, and its because a lot have in bulk. Junius is one of them, and a month ago I found a casino with 20-35 Typewriters.

[slayaman]

lol i thought super rares were dfined by their value... yeah move the smaovar to super rare...reason: because i have one lol. :)

[Srieny]

I always thought a Super was:

A piece of furni that has never been in the catalogue, or if it has, it has been for a very short amount of time or by accident. :S

[jesus]

What Defines A Super?seriously? nothing these days.

[Fit-crazyboy]

tbh then u should slowly raise the holoboys and samovars then tbh it will be fair!
underpricing them is stupid
if you wanna see something good then search ..bone..
he has a throne casino which has loads of samovars and holoboys and girls
so tbh samovar's and holoboys should raise in value i will be sellying them at 3 hc each!

[Flamedragon3]

lol i thought super rares were dfined by their value... yeah move the smaovar to super rare...reason: because i have one lol. :)
Supers are defined by whether they have been released in the catalogue (not accidently though). Everyone wants their rares to be super :)

I always thought a Super was:

A piece of furni that has never been in the catalogue, or if it has, it has been for a very short amount of time or by accident. :S
If its been in the catalogue for a short amount of time it still counts as a Normal Rare. Some rares that have been released for a short amount of time and are now Normal Rares are; Gold Strobe Solarium, Green Wooly Pillow, Yellow Amber Lamp and possibly a few more.

tbh then u should slowly raise the holoboys and samovars then tbh it will be fair!
underpricing them is stupid
if you wanna see something good then search ..bone..
he has a throne casino which has loads of samovars and holoboys and girls
so tbh samovar's and holoboys should raise in value i will be sellying them at 3 hc each!
We cannot raise/change the values of Holopod's and Russian Samover's to whatever we think they should be, as we only change the values of rares by what they are traded for. -:undertaker:- (Dan), who used to be a Rare Values Manager for Habbox, raised the value for the Russian Samover and Holopod as he thought they should be Super Rares as they had not been released. But Sierk and 8Freak8 decided that they should be Normal Rares, and they also sacked -:undertaker:- for changing the Russian Samover's so dramatically (2/3CS-25CS) and causing havock to everyone on habbo. But I think the Russian Samover only went up this much within a few days because everyone began to believe it would become a Super Rare and Russian Samover's became a wanted rare for once lol.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Supers are defined by whether they have been released in the catalogue (not accidently though). Everyone wants their rares to be super :)

If its been in the catalogue for a short amount of time it still counts as a Normal Rare. Some rares that have been released for a short amount of time and are now Normal Rares are; Gold Strobe Solarium, Green Wooly Pillow, Yellow Amber Lamp and possibly a few more.

We cannot raise/change the values of Holopod's and Russian Samover's to whatever we think they should be, as we only change the values of rares by what they are traded for. -:undertaker:- (Dan), who used to be a Rare Values Manager for Habbox, raised the value for the Russian Samover and Holopod as he thought they should be Super Rares as they had not been released. But Sierk and 8Freak8 decided that they should be Normal Rares, and they also sacked -:undertaker:- for changing the Russian Samover's so dramatically (2/3CS-25CS) and causing havock to everyone on habbo. But I think the Russian Samover only went up this much within a few days because everyone began to believe it would become a Super Rare and Russian Samover's became a wanted rare for once lol.

I didn't change the values on my own accord, I changed them as they were rising - which is my job. 8Freak8 gave me permission to post that poll which the option of 'move them' won a landslide majority yet management chose to ignore everyone as they always do because they are always right :rolleyes:

It was infact sierk and 8Freak8 whom fixed the values as they were easily going for 1T (30 CS) and 12 CS until sierk and 8Freak8 decided to put them at a price of 10 CS and 8 CS, why?, we'll never know. That destroyed Habbox's record (to my knowledge) of not fixing values, as I have been under Smiddy1234 and Mit and they never fixed anything, neither did I.

[Orangeesh]

I didn't change the values on my own accord, I changed them as they were rising - which is my job. 8Freak8 gave me permission to post that poll which the option of 'move them' won a landslide majority yet management chose to ignore everyone as they always do because they are always right :rolleyes:

It was infact sierk and 8Freak8 whom fixed the values as they were easily going for 1T (30 CS) and 12 CS until sierk and 8Freak8 decided to put them at a price of 10 CS and 8 CS, why?, we'll never know. That destroyed Habbox's record (to my knowledge) of not fixing values, as I have been under Smiddy1234 and Mit and they never fixed anything, neither did I.


It's a shame that happened as Habbox does try to get values correct as possible. They have corrupted their own values by keeping the Ione gifts still in normals.

[Flamedragon3]

I didn't change the values on my own accord, I changed them as they were rising - which is my job. 8Freak8 gave me permission to post that poll which the option of 'move them' won a landslide majority yet management chose to ignore everyone as they always do because they are always right :rolleyes:

It was infact sierk and 8Freak8 whom fixed the values as they were easily going for 1T (30 CS) and 12 CS until sierk and 8Freak8 decided to put them at a price of 10 CS and 8 CS, why?, we'll never know. That destroyed Habbox's record (to my knowledge) of not fixing values, as I have been under Smiddy1234 and Mit and they never fixed anything, neither did I.
I know you didn't change the values on your own accord. What I am saying trying to say is that because you told everyone it should be a Super Rare (which I agree), everyone suddenly wanted them, and this made the sudden rise of 2/3CS-5CS and then the continuous route to 25CS. :)

But when the Russian Samover did reach 25CS and then 8Freak8 and Sierk put it as TBC or N/A as they were unsure what type of rare to put it under (this includes the Holopod and Throne, but their value were still available on Habbox), I said to everyone and tried to get a word in on 8Freak8 in his Help Desk, that no matter what, they should not put the Russian Samover back down to a very low value of 10CS-3CS as it could destroy Habbox and would make people think we rig values (which we don't), so what did they do? They put it to 10CS like you said, and as soon as they did that move, they did the worst thing they could have possibly done and made Habbox lose a lot of reputation for rare values.

If HHGS had been more popular then like it is today, right now HHGS would most likely be the most used site for Habbo. With Habbox wanting to repair and be the most used site for rare values again. But luckily to me and everyone who works at Habbox today, we are still the most used Habbo fansite (I think).

[GoldenMerc]

Yep your correct you are most used fansite but the thing is before values started HHGS was getting 4-5 thousnd unique now its in the 7500+ which means we gained 2500 unique Habbo's ether of you or someone else and im pretty sure there from values.
So maybe if Habbox doesnt update enough and doesnt get the values right people will move?
Ross

[Orangeesh]

Yep your correct you are most used fansite but the thing is before values started HHGS was getting 4-5 thousnd unique now its in the 7500+ which means we gained 2500 unique Habbo's ether of you or someone else and im pretty sure there from values.
So maybe if Habbox doesnt update enough and doesnt get the values right people will move?
Ross

or because you have a wider selection all in the right sections?;)

[-:Undertaker:-]

I know you didn't change the values on your own accord. What I am saying trying to say is that because you told everyone it should be a Super Rare (which I agree), everyone suddenly wanted them, and this made the sudden rise of 2/3CS-5CS and then the continuous route to 25CS. :)

But when the Russian Samover did reach 25CS and then 8Freak8 and Sierk put it as TBC or N/A as they were unsure what type of rare to put it under (this includes the Holopod and Throne, but their value were still available on Habbox), I said to everyone and tried to get a word in on 8Freak8 in his Help Desk, that no matter what, they should not put the Russian Samover back down to a very low value of 10CS-3CS as it could destroy Habbox and would make people think we rig values (which we don't), so what did they do? They put it to 10CS like you said, and as soon as they did that move, they did the worst thing they could have possibly done and made Habbox lose a lot of reputation for rare values.

If HHGS had been more popular then like it is today, right now HHGS would most likely be the most used site for Habbo. With Habbox wanting to repair and be the most used site for rare values again. But luckily to me and everyone who works at Habbox today, we are still the most used Habbo fansite (I think).

Yeah I agree totally. The recent Rare Value Managers have had to put up with more hate than Oggy, Smiddy, Mit and me did. Not their fault, it's managements. Even now if you go into casinos a small minority still use Habbox and the majority don't use any/HHGS. I remember when nearly everybodys in a casino used Habbox for values.

Sierk and 8Freak8 really have kicked themselves.

[TopManTim]

Not The Throne, Savoer + Holpod Arguement Again Please

I Think Supers Are Defined By There Looks Mainly


It worries me that you are the Head Rare Values Reporter :p

[Deltikon]

Supers are rares that haven't been released in the catalogue (excluding ones that were accidently released). But the reason why Sierk and 8Freak8 wanted to keep the Throne, Samover and Holopod as 'Normal Rares' was because there was such a large amount of them. Personally I think Thrones, Samovers and Holopods should count as supers. But it would be very weird without throne in the 'Normal Values'.

Also, nearly every super has been in the catalogue :) Even the Throne, Samover and Holopod :P But for only five minutes.

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=135879

(Second Post)
M... why it doesn't consider as special rares? :)

[Flamedragon3]

M... why it doesn't consider as special rares? :)
But there is still a short amount of them on the hotel, and they are Super's as they were not purposly put into the catalogue, they were accidently added to the catalogue for a very short period of time, so therefore they are not Normal Rare's.

[mlp16]

being a RVR myself, I still think HHGS is one better at habbox at the moment but not quite there with the publicity.

Habbox Is taking time for rares to be added E.g Grey Share bear As we dont have the picture for it, until the person who does it normaly returns. In this case i think a temperorly Image or writing should be in place.

I Also think Habbox RV system should change In supers To HCS not Thrones, As When the Throne drops the supers Drop in value themselfs without being traded. The HC value never changes and is the most stable rare, and should be the only currency (in values).

I Also think The ione Gifts, Items mistakenly released should be supers, Therefor Red iced, Samovar, Holo boy, Throne Should all be super Rares. As That is what they are.

Most of this is in Habbox RVR views, and It is an aim we are trying to do into the future, My fear is it maybe too Late and HHGS may be the next Rare Value site.

[e5]

If it has not been in the catalogue, it's a super. Some rares like the throne and samover.. there was a little bix up which Undertaker could probably carry on for you ;). I know loads of lazers were given out with the cred things, but they're still supers ;)

[GoldenMerc]

I suppose its something that hasnt been released in the cat, Thats surely why ione's gifts are in supers for HHGS, And were for habbox untill sierk and 8f8 removed them.

[Rixion]

Why were the samovars and holopods removed from the Super "list" on habbox?

[GoldenMerc]

In this poll:
http://habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=322485
Habbox users decided that they should be in supers 118 people said that then the other 48 said they should be in normals
But 8f8 added this comment:

Thread closed: The ione gifts are staying in the normal rares category.

So practically he just went agaist all the users vote's and said no although he apparently said to dan he could make that poll.
So yano

[The Professor]

Wow, another thread about the samovars n all that. What a surprise. I think it should become a forum rule that any discussion of this be banned, there's nothing to debate and its just getting boring. We all know habbox has a double standard when it comes to some supers, we obviously can't do anything about that, live with it.

[mlp16]

Wow, another thread about the samovars n all that. What a surprise. I think it should become a forum rule that any discussion of this be banned, there's nothing to debate and its just getting boring. We all know habbox has a double standard when it comes to some supers, we obviously can't do anything about that, live with it.


basicly doing that is like banning are freedom of speach.

Habbox is wrong But wont change it

[-:Undertaker:-]

Wow, another thread about the samovars n all that. What a surprise. I think it should become a forum rule that any discussion of this be banned, there's nothing to debate and its just getting boring. We all know habbox has a double standard when it comes to some supers, we obviously can't do anything about that, live with it.

Why because Habbox management look like toss pots everytime it's mentioned? Now that you have actually suggested that I wouldn't be suprised to see it banned now, just like they banned complaining.


basicly doing that is like banning are freedom of speach.

Habbox is wrong But wont change it

Agreed :)

[Rixion]

if you don't want to see people talking about samovars, simply just don't go on the thread in the first place :l

[mlp16]

Why because Habbox management look like toss pots everytime it's mentioned? Now that you have actually suggested that I wouldn't be suprised to see it banned now, just like they banned complaining.

Agreed :)

I think habbox Should reconsider this.


if you don't want to see people talking about samovars, simply just don't go on the thread in the first place :l

True lol.

[Immenseman]

if you don't want to see people talking about samovars, simply just don't go on the thread in the first place :l

When he looks around the forum and sees a thread called 'What Defines A Super?' he hardly expects it to be about samovars :P.

I did originally think they should be moved but now I don't really. They have been normals for so long there is no need to change now in my opinion.

[mlp16]

When he looks around the forum and sees a thread called 'What Defines A Super?' he hardly expects it to be about samovars :P.

I did originally think they should be moved but now I don't really. They have been normals for so long there is no need to change now in my opinion.

Even So, It's Not What you think The Rare Values Are For the Habbo/x Community, If We say a Super is Something Not Released or mistakenly Released then it should be a Super. So Why not these? I Think the Poll Should be put back up.

[Ugawa]

They cost what they do due to high demand for certain furni. Like a samovar is only 1.5 Hc's where as a throne is around 50 Hc's atm. Thrones arn't thought as supers because they are the currancy for supers. If thrones were supers as well, Hc's would have to be the currancy for Supers.
It doesn't really matter how when or why the different furni was released it all really matters on how much someone is willing to pay for something. For instince, if EVERYONE On the hotel suddenly started paying 1 Hc for like a dino they would fall to one hc.

Hope this helped
X

[GoldenMerc]

Even So, It's Not What you think The Rare Values Are For the Habbo/x Community, If We say a Super is Something Not Released or mistakenly Released then it should be a Super. So Why not these? I Think the Poll Should be put back up.
I agree, Its not just what you think its what Habbox users want, I mean if you didnt have the users the'd be no point in values?

[Immenseman]

I genuninely don't care whether they're regarded as supers or not. In my opinion they're not but for you lot I will bring it up with Higher Management. :)