Chickens

[mrplahay]

Please sign up to www.chickenout.tv (http://www.chickenout.tv). Every time you sign up your name goes up on this flash thing and a chicken in real life gets free'd from a cage to free range.
STOP BATTERY CHICKENS!!!!!!!!!!!!:(

[O]

You shouldn't have to sign up to anything, they should be free'd anyway. It's making people feel guilty by forcing people to do stuff when it's easier for them to just do it..

[Hitman]

I doubt it's real anyway, probably just a way to get traffic... if they were freeing chickens shouldn't they just free them all anyway?

[Smiddy]

Cos they're really going to free them at midnight on a sunday morning aren't they.

[Technologic]

Umm.. have you been watching the news lately..

Battery farmed eggs are to be abnned by 2012

[mrplahay]

http://www.chickenout.tv/not-convinced.html

im buying 2 pet chickys for my garden
www.omlet.co.uk

[Firehorse]

http://www.chickenout.tv/not-convinced.html

im buying 2 pet chickys for my garden
www.omlet.co.uk (http://www.omlet.co.uk)

kl, those chicken huts look more like they were designed for fashion than chickens.

[Jord]

Umm.. have you been watching the news lately..

Battery farmed eggs are to be abnned by 2012


I was gonna say tht lol

[Corporal]

I bet you will still eat at KFC and eat your chicken sandwich for lunch?

[mrplahay]

I bet you will still eat at KFC and eat your chicken sandwich for lunch?

m8 i never said im not going to eat it. i said that they should be free'd from like 20 off them in a tiny cage and being forced to lay eggs.

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[Charlie]

What does it matter? For every chicken they release another one will be put it in it's place. Therefore it's a never ending cycle and a waste of time.

[Virgin Mary]

The method of death doesn't deter from the fact it's going to die at the end of the day anyway.

[mrplahay]

no but it aint nice to keep them all squashed up.

you wouldnt like it if you where squashed in a wardrobe with 20 other people and no room to move about and forced to do things.
it is better if the chicken can go where it wants and wander and do what it wans:eusa_whis

[Virgin Mary]

It's still like chicken run though

[FlyingJesus]

no but it aint nice to keep them all squashed up.

you wouldnt like it if you where squashed in a wardrobe with 20 other people and no room to move about and forced to do things.
it is better if the chicken can go where it wants and wander and do what it wans:eusa_whis

Umm, they're chickens.

[Niall!]

no but it aint nice to keep them all squashed up.

you wouldnt like it if you where squashed in a wardrobe with 20 other people and no room to move about and forced to do things.
it is better if the chicken can go where it wants and wander and do what it wans:eusa_whis

Yes we would, that would be ******* awesome..


Umm, they're chickens.

Lol

[Corporal]

m8 i never said im not going to eat it. i said that they should be free'd from like 20 off them in a tiny cage and being forced to lay eggs.
But your still supporting it.
Just because you click a link doesnt mean your a better person.
Because you stil support it by buying it.
BY the way, please get your facts right
Its 4/5 not 20.

[mrplahay]

im not supporting battery chickens.
when i buy i always buy free range or get them from my nans farm

[Corporal]

im not supporting battery chickens.
when i buy i always buy free range or get them from my nans farm
What sorta eggs do you think they put in food you buy?

[mrplahay]

it is not hard to read the label on the back. if it contains eggs it will say from caged or free range

[Corporal]

it is not hard to read the label on the back. if it contains eggs it will say from caged or free range
LMAO!!!!
thats a very rare thing to see, please show me some packets that say that?

[Warezkid2]

LMAO!!!!
thats a very rare thing to see, please show me some packets that say that?


Supermarket.


They do have them :rolleyes:. I rather get chickens who are free ranged.

How do you think if you was a human, being eaten by some strange alien, and 20 humans were in a phonebox. Would you like it?

[Hitman]

LMAO!!!!
thats a very rare thing to see, please show me some packets that say that?LMAO!!!!!!!

No it's not rare at all, most egg boxes say if it's free range...

[today]

i work at a food hall and we sell free range and caged eggs, seperatly with clear labels and the caged eggs sell quicker then free range.

That tells you how many people really care. lol.

[Warezkid2]

i work at a food hall and we sell free range and caged eggs, seperatly with clear labels and the caged eggs sell quicker then free range.

That tells you how many people really care. lol.


Becasue free range cost more.

[today]

Becasue free range cost more.
5p extra.

Free range -> £1.15
Caged Eggs -> £1.10

[Warezkid2]

5p extra.

Free range -> £1.15
Caged Eggs -> £1.10


around here it costs a quid more.

but you can see how much people care about 5p.

I think it the way stores put them, if they put the caged ones right at the start, then more people are gonna get them ^_^

[Corporal]

LMAO!!!!!!!

No it's not rare at all, most egg boxes say if it's free range...
But im not on about egg boxes:s
Im on about ready meals, cakes that sorta thing:)

[today]

around here it costs a quid more.

but you can see how much people care about 5p.

I think it the way stores put them, if they put the caged ones right at the start, then more people are gonna get them ^_^

It makes no difference, customers walk around the shop. We have a egg table infront of the door nearly, with caged/free range on (as said with massive labels) and customers dont really care, yes some asked what happened to them with that tv program, as all our products are locally created. But caged eggs sell more.

If anything they cost more.

Free ranged box -> £1.10
Caged "larger" eggs for six -> £1.15
"Special Eggs" (Caged) -> £1.50

They are our top three sellers, and the caged eggs sell quicker as you pick the eggs, and they have the 'code' on to say there caged. No one cares around me.

[FlyingJesus]

How do you think if you was a human, being eaten by some strange alien, and 20 humans were in a phonebox. Would you like it?

Obviously not but that's not happening. Also humans are sentient creatures whilst chickens aren't.

[Warezkid2]

Obviously not but that's not happening. Also humans are sentient creatures whilst chickens aren't.

So what? :rolleyes:


They still got feelings.

[Technologic]

Anyway, we are the dominent species..

When chickens rule they can do what the **** they like but for the moment we make the decisions..

[today]

Anyway, we are the dominent species..

When chickens rule they can do what the **** they like but for the moment we make the decisions..
Nice attutide mister :) +rep.

[Abbie.]

they're only chickens...

lol.. i bet everyones going to attack me now ;p

[Warezkid2]

Anyway, we are the dominent species..

When chickens rule they can do what the **** they like but for the moment we make the decisions..


Let make all the idiots suffer then.

[Corporal]

Anyway, we are the dominent species..

When chickens rule they can do what the **** they like but for the moment we make the decisions..
Aye, but cant we make ones that give them a better life?

[FlyingJesus]

So what? :rolleyes:


They still got feelings.

No they don't, that's the point.

[Warezkid2]

No they don't, that's the point.


Oh god.

You think they dont have feelings?


LOL

[Abbie.]

Oh god.

You think they dont have feelings?


LOL

y would they have feelings?
they're chickens......

[FlyingJesus]

You think they do? All they can do is react instinctively - of course they shy away from pain, all living things do (even plants to an extent), but they don't have rational thoughts and emotions.

[Warezkid2]

y would they have feelings?
they're chickens......]

They are a living thing.

[DaveTaylor]

Every living thing has feelings:
A tree "crys" when you cut it via the sap.
A flower wiltards when you pull out its petals thata form of feelings...

[Warezkid2]

You think they do? All they can do is react instinctively - of course they shy away from pain, all living things do (even plants to an extent), but they don't have rational thoughts and emotions.



Still feelings dude.

They have feelings of being in a cage.

[Corporal]

You think they do? All they can do is react instinctively - of course they shy away from pain, all living things do (even plants to an extent), but they don't have rational thoughts and emotions.
But still just because they dont doesnt mean we have to treat them like that? At the end of the day you can tell when a chicken is happier and its ussaly when they are free range. Same with the meat you eat.

[DaveTaylor]

+rep coporal i was thinking of free range aswell :P

[FlyingJesus]

You think they do? All they can do is react instinctively - of course they shy away from pain, all living things do (even plants to an extent), but they don't have rational thoughts and emotions.


Every living thing has feelings:
A tree "crys" when you cut it via the sap.
A flower wiltards when you pull out its petals thata form of feelings...

As I said, it's all instinctive, and in fact with your analogies not even that - just chemical. Tree sap is like blood and also a cleansing thing to stop the "wound" getting infected or whatever, and pulling off petals from flowers means they have to put more energy into growing new ones, hence wilting because they don't have the energy elsewhere.

edit: reacting badly to something is not the same as having feelings. Sodium fizzing in water does not make sodium have feelings.

[Corporal]

As I said, it's all instinctive, and in fact with your analogies not even that - just chemical. Tree sap is like blood and also a cleansing thing to stop the "wound" getting infected or whatever, and pulling off petals from flowers means they have to put more energy into growing new ones, hence wilting because they don't have the energy elsewhere.

edit: reacting badly to something is not the same as having feelings. Sodium fizzing in water does not make sodium have feelings.
So im guessing you have nothing to say to my post?

[Virgin Mary]

How is free range nice anyway? All it means is they aren't enclosed when they're in a shed or whatever.

[Corporal]

How is free range nice anyway? All it means is they aren't enclosed when they're in a shed or whatever.
Chickens like to be outside as they can get acess to worms etc, also they are in the fresh air which is better.

[Virgin Mary]

Chickens like to be outside as they can get acess to worms etc, also they are in the fresh air which is better.
They're rarely let outside.

[FatherFrog]

http://www.chickenout.tv/not-convinced.html

im buying 2 pet chickys for my garden
www.omlet.co.uk (http://www.omlet.co.uk)

chickens are NOT pets :S

[FlyingJesus]

So im guessing you have nothing to say to my post?

Yeah I say it doesn't matter - they're bred and killed for food, and farmers aren't exactly gonna make friends with all their chickens so why would they care? It's like asking crop farmers to give each individual plant more space so they can be happier.

[Corporal]

Yeah I say it doesn't matter - they're bred and killed for food, and farmers aren't exactly gonna make friends with all their chickens so why would they care? It's like asking crop farmers to give each individual plant more space so they can be happier.
Actually lots of farmers do care. When we had foot and mouth some of them tried to kill themselfs.

[FatherFrog]

Yeah I say it doesn't matter - they're bred and killed for food, and farmers aren't exactly gonna make friends with all their chickens so why would they care? It's like asking crop farmers to give each individual plant more space so they can be happier.

its NOTHING like that :l

are crops animals and do they have feelings?

NO...

[today]

its NOTHING like that :l

are crops animals and do they have feelings?

NO...
How do we know they dont?

[FatherFrog]

How do we know they dont?

well because they dont have a brain, they have no muscles :S

what a stupid thing to say :S

[Technologic]

When i see a chicken laugh i will accept that they have feelings.

[FatherFrog]

When i see a chicken laugh i will accept that they have feelings.

what so when a person goes to kill a chicken it flaps and sqauwks for no reason...

cos its not scared or frightened is it no of course not!

being picked up by person whose about 10 times its size it just doesnt think does it - ...

:S

[velvet]

i hate it when people use the
'BUT ANIMALZZZ AV FEELINGZ' argument, when they blatantly have no clue what they're talking about. Plus, they're usually the people who follow organisations like PETA, which speaks for itself really.
There's no proof that animals are self aware and understand emotions and pain.
If you hit an animal ofcourse it will ''cry'' and move away, but that's more to do with survival than pain as we feel it, ofcourse their muscles will contract due to an outside stimulus, just like when you touch something hot and you automatically move your hand away before you get burnt.
And before someone says 'omg you don't care about animals' or something, i'm vegan. I'm just not deluded and have explored both sides of this argument which seems to go on and on and on.

[Technologic]

what so when a person goes to kill a chicken it flaps and sqauwks for no reason...

cos its not scared or frightened is it no of course not!

being picked up by person whose about 10 times its size it just doesnt think does it - ...

:S
The flapping is a way of deterring predators and the squawking is a way of warning other chickens.

Still no feeling...

[FatherFrog]

i hate it when people use the
'BUT ANIMALZZZ AV FEELINGZ' argument, when they blatantly have no clue what they're talking about. Plus, they're usually the people who follow organisations like PETA, which speaks for itself really.
There's no proof that animals are self aware and understand emotions and pain.
If you hit an animal ofcourse it will ''cry'' and move away, but that's more to do with survival than pain as we feel it, ofcourse their muscles will contract due to an outside stimulus, just like when you touch something hot and you automatically move your hand away before you get burnt.
And before someone says 'omg you don't care about animals' or something, i'm vegan. I'm just not deluded and have explored both sides of this argument which seems to go on and on and on.

i have 10 chickens thank you very much

and they have feelings tyvm....

i bet none of you have even touched one or seen one that isnt on ur plate. :l

[velvet]

i have 10 chickens thank you very much

and they have feelings *** :S


atleast attempt to prove my argument wrong then...
and why does the fact that you have chickens mean they are sentient beings?

edit; and yes, i have seen and touched ome that isn't on a plate, i agree they're good pets and do form bonds and such with their owners. However so do cats and dogs, which though are seen as 'pets' here, are eaten in other countrys.

and cheers for the grey rep and 'noob' comment ;)

[FatherFrog]

atleast attempt to prove my argument wrong then...
and why does the fact that you have chickens mean they are sentient beings?

because i know how they act and what they are like....

[velvet]

because i know how they act and what they are like....


That has nothing to do with how their brain functions, that's just your perception. As a human, we like to think our pets understand us, and think the same as us. Though if you look at their responses to the world around, you can see they arn't as aware as you'd like to think.

[today]

i have 10 chickens thank you very much

and they have feelings tyvm....

i bet none of you have even touched one or seen one that isnt on ur plate. :l

Sorry budd, i have.

[FatherFrog]

That has nothing to do with how their brain functions, that's just your perception. As a human, we like to think our pets understand us, and think the same as us. Though if you look at their responses to the world around, you can see they arn't as aware as you'd like to think.

i am not talking about pets understanding us - i am saying how they have feelings and are frightened or worried... or even happier if they are outside rather than cooped up...

and hollywood... gd 4 u.


and cheers for the grey rep and 'noob' comment ;)

anytime ;)

oh and jade where do u get ur basis that they dont have feelings

[Virgin Mary]

You can apply that logic to babies and people in vegetative states though. I think it's just basic ethics.

[velvet]

i am not talking about pets understanding us - i am saying how they have feelings and are frightened or worried... or even happier if they are outside rather than cooped up...

and hollywood... gd 4 u.



anytime ;)

oh and jade where do u get ur basis that they dont have feelings


Not once have i said they don't have feelings.
However they don't have emotions and feelings like humans do, it's all about survival. I'm sure the chickens don't think 'Gee, I wish I was outside right now' as they arn't advanced enough to have thought processes like a human would. A chicken may appear ''happier'' outside as it can display more of it's natural behaviours.

[FatherFrog]

Not once have i said they don't have feelings.
However they don't have emotions and feelings like humans do, it's all about survival. I'm sure the chickens don't think 'Gee, I wish I was outside right now' as they arn't advanced enough to have thought processes like a human would. A chicken may appear ''happier'' outside as it can display more of it's natural behaviours.

i never said they had feelings and emotions like humans do... and of course they dont think that cos they dont really no any better.. but if they are let out for a day then caged in you would see much different behaviour and would show they have some feelings about where they are...

tbh we are basically saying the same thing in different ways :S

[velvet]

i never said they had feelings and emotions like humans do... and of course they dont think that cos they dont really no any better.. but if they are let out for a day then caged in you would see much different behaviour and would show they have some feelings about where they are...

tbh we are basically saying the same thing in different ways :S


sort of yes,
however in an earlier post you said that you knew chickens were sentient beings because of 'how they act and what they are like'
but i respect your opinions and such (:

[Warezkid2]

I seen cows cry.


I bet you that chickens will cry.

[FatherFrog]

I seen cows cry.


I bet you that chickens will cry.

i wont go as far as saying they cry if they are upset but maybe if there is something in their eye.

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[Technologic]

Humans eat meat. Humans eat chickens. Humans eat animals. Humans are clever. humans keep animals to eat. This saves humans valuable time.

Chicken dont eat meat. Chickens have small brains. Chickens have no feelings.

At least we don't rip them to shreds like foxes...

[Abbie.]

Humans eat meat. Humans eat chickens. Humans eat animals. Humans are clever. humans keep animals to eat. This saves humans valuable time.

Chicken dont eat meat. Chickens have small brains. Chickens have no feelings.

At least we don't rip them to shreds like foxes...


agreed... :]

[Corporal]

Humans eat meat. Humans eat chickens. Humans eat animals. Humans are clever. humans keep animals to eat. This saves humans valuable time.

Chicken dont eat meat. Chickens have small brains. Chickens have no feelings.

At least we don't rip them to shreds like foxes...
Nope we mentally torture them.
Anyway, how does it matter how they die.
You said they dont feel pain?

[Technologic]

Nope we mentally torture them.
Anyway, how does it matter how they die.
You said they dont feel pain?
No, i said they have no emotional feelings. Of course they feel pain.

[FatherFrog]

Humans eat meat. Humans eat chickens. Humans eat animals. Humans are clever. humans keep animals to eat. This saves humans valuable time.

Chicken dont eat meat. Chickens have small brains. Chickens have no feelings.

At least we don't rip them to shreds like foxes...


don't even get me started on those vile pieces of REMOVED

i go fox hunting btw...

:D

to kill the REMOVED things

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[MagicalPixie]

agreed... :]
I agree 2. xo :]

[FlyingJesus]

its NOTHING like that :l

are crops animals and do they have feelings?

NO...

Crops are just as alive as animals and if you knew anything about biology you'd know that plants react to many many things, so it's just as valid an argument


Actually lots of farmers do care. When we had foot and mouth some of them tried to kill themselfs.

Because they suffered so much financially.


i hate it when people use the
'BUT ANIMALZZZ AV FEELINGZ' argument, when they blatantly have no clue what they're talking about. Plus, they're usually the people who follow organisations like PETA, which speaks for itself really.
There's no proof that animals are self aware and understand emotions and pain.
If you hit an animal ofcourse it will ''cry'' and move away, but that's more to do with survival than pain as we feel it, ofcourse their muscles will contract due to an outside stimulus, just like when you touch something hot and you automatically move your hand away before you get burnt.
And before someone says 'omg you don't care about animals' or something, i'm vegan. I'm just not deluded and have explored both sides of this argument which seems to go on and on and on.

Entirely correct.

[Corporal]

Because they suffered so much financially.

Not just that actually.

[Virgin Mary]

don't even get me started on those vile pieces of REMOVED

i go fox hunting btw...

:D

to kill the REMOVED things

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So you're a hypocrite =)

Just as I expected.

[mrplahay]

bet u would hate this if u where the chickens


http://youtube.com/watch?v=H4_R5sGHIGo

[Asher]

where are you peta activists. set them free, now!!

[FatherFrog]

So you're a hypocrite =)

Just as I expected.


no i am not.

[Virgin Mary]

no i am not.
Well I guess not but I don't agree with it still.