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[yido]

i got warnining for me avater it aint even rude ; [

Edited by ---MAD--- (General Manager): Thread locked as it has gone off topic.
A few smods and admins have said the avatar is inappropriate, thats final.

[today]

It may of been too big or unacceptable towards others.

[jesus]

What was it?

You can appeal against a warning inthe thread provided in the feedback section :)

[yido]

ok i will upload it now *removed*

Edited by Spectate (Forum Super Moderator): Image removed.

[jesus]

I think we both know that's inappropriate.

[GommeInc]

That's not exactly "PUNCH IN YOUR FACE" rude... That is acceptable and doesn't break any rules. It's amusing if anything, but not rude. If anyone gets discusted by that then they have issues :S

[UnitedRoad]

why is that rude?

[jesus]

That's not exactly "PUNCH IN YOUR FACE" rude... That is acceptable and doesn't break any rules. It's amusing if anything, but not rude. If anyone gets discusted by that then they have issues :SWell perhaps they do but it's still inappropriate.

[GommeInc]

In what sense? It's not discusting, it's not vulgar, it's not rude, it's so small you don't get any detail. If it was two teenagers it wouldn't be rude, unless they were both naked and you can see everything.

[yido]

can i USE it or not ITS NOT EVEN RUDE LMAO ITS FUNNY

[GommeInc]

People have had ruder things, so I don't see why this happens to be rude. So I think you can "/ It depends what other people think really

[Jamesy]

Well perhaps they do but it's still inappropriate.

Unless you're jack thompson crossed with a southern american soccer mom then it's no way near rude. I've seen worse on day time telly.

[Shrlurp]

You hardly need a thread about it.

PM someone who can actually help...

And "mods" won't do anything as it's not there job.

[Jamesy]

You hardly need a thread about it.

PM someone who can actually help...

And "mods" won't do anything as it's not there job.


THEIR, NOT THERE DAMMIT!

[jesus]

Well it got removed meaning you aren't allowed it. Sorted :)

[today]

Although personally i think its abit funny, it appears its unacceptable.

[Typoh]

Oh look dan. its you and you sister. Nice.

Edited by Spectate (Forum Super Moderator): Please don't be rude.

[Dan2nd]

lmao wth is wrong with people these days come off it ! This is so lame how is that not appropriate? For a start you can't even see anything they even have clothes on for crying out load? It's super mario if it was real people I'd probably see why it was removed but it's a cartoon character.... jeeze thats just lame

[Hitman]

I know what it's meant to be, but it could be mistaken for the konga dance and the princess is dead.

[mat64]

Ok, so it's maybe slightly inappropriate. But it's not like anyone aged 11+ wouldn't know what it means, I'm sure they wouldn't take offense of it. If you can find someone who is genuinely offended by that avatar then fair enough, but removing that is just someone looking for logs or whatever.

[GommeInc]

Oh look dan. its you and you sister. Nice.

Edited by Spectate (Forum Super Moderator): Please don't be rude.
Is that really rude, or is that a moderators opinion? The member didn't take offense to it so why edit it?

And I agree Matt, it must be someone looking for something to add to their logs.

[Spectate]

Is that really rude, or is that a moderators opinion? The member didn't take offense to it so why edit it?

And I agree Matt, it must be someone looking for something to add to their logs.

Well I don't know many people who enjoy having incestuous remarks made against them. Someone might not mind being called <insert expletive here>, but I kind of have to go with what's generally accepted here.

[Jamesy]

Well I don't know many people who enjoy having incestuous remarks made against them.

Hello ;)

Edited by Agesilaus (Forum Super Moderator): Please do not post pointlessly.

[Pyroka]

*sigh* Shame this has happened, yet another example of how HabboxForum Moderators really do have issues. It's like REDNECK has NEVER posted anything as rude as that before... Soon they'll have some sort of Guantamano bay to send HxF users to, who've been offensive. I'm not going to moan but this is related to the issue, Tweety actually gave me an infraction for a post I made like 2 weeks ago? I would definitely call it 'statting up logs'.

I'm guessing though, when you see two women (Humans) kissing eachother, that wouldn't be considered rude, as to Mario & Peach (Cartoon characters) having themselves some happytime is? I do wonder what Habbox is getting to... Oh yes, ASBO country.

@the incest post: I found that funny, but yeah it's offensive to maybe the Moderator, but what if D4n did in fact do so, and wasn't at all offended by it? It's a long shot, but sometimes the long shot is actually true. No offense to d4n of course, but it's just a scenario.

Here's an idea, how about the Moderators actually CONTACT the users about 'pressing charges' against another user who might be offending him, or could just be joking about. Maybe that would make HabboxForum a better place... And then maybe, just maybe, the Moderators wouldn't be under so much fire.

[today]

I find it more funny then anything else.

May i add us Moderators cannot do anything but report avatars its down to the Super Moderators to take action, if any.

[Immenseman]

I don't think the image in question is inappropriate at all. However, that's only my opinion. I don't think any users will be upset or disgusted or whatever by seeing this small humerous image in someones avatar.

[Pyroka]

Well... The only way I can see it being inappropriate to someone, is if you were Mario's or Peach's parents. I doubt they'd appreciate it tbh.

[GommeInc]

Well I don't know many people who enjoy having incestuous remarks made against them. Someone might not mind being called <insert expletive here>, but I kind of have to go with what's generally accepted here.
They may know each other and talk like that to each other all the time :P

[--ss--]

can i USE it or not ITS NOT EVEN RUDE LMAO ITS FUNNY
No it's not funny , to me it's quite disturbing having images such as that in cartoon form?
You may not use it as it is inappropriate ;).

[Pyroka]

No it's not funny , to me it's quite disturbing having images such as that in cartoon form?
You may not use it as it is inappropriate ;).

*Blink* Have you ever watched television in the day-time, or a music video, or any form of media? I personally don't find it offensive at all, it's just a joke? I mean... You might be thinking about it in too much detail, if you're that disturbed by it... Actually you thinking such? That's a disturbing thought.

[mat64]

I find it more funny then anything else.

May i add us Moderators cannot do anything but report avatars its down to the Super Moderators to take action, if any.I don't think people are directing it at the normal moderators. I'm sure most people posting here are aware that it is super moderators that remove avatars/signatures.

[--ss--]

*Blink* Have you ever watched television in the day-time, or a music video, or any form of media? I personally don't find it offensive at all, it's just a joke? I mean... You might be thinking about it in too much detail, if you're that disturbed by it... Actually you thinking such? That's a disturbing thought.
I never said it's offensive, I said it's inappropriate which is an completely different thing.
It's inappropriate for obvious reasons, I do not see how me knowing what an image is trying to represent is disturbing seeing as in my eyes having cartoon styled pornographic jokes is not funny and quite immature.

Before anyone says i'm going all defensive, I had no involvement of removing his avatar and haven't noticed it before , i'm simply stating why someone would want an avatar such as that :/

[Pyroka]

Well you'll find 95% of this forums population would actually find that rather humorous. I think you need to realise you're on a forum for teenagers, not adults. Plus, we're not in school either so there's no need to treat these forums like a playground, pulling every single person over and telling them off. If you haven't noticed, it actually irritates some users quite a bit.

[GommeInc]

No it's not funny , to me it's quite disturbing having images such as that in cartoon form?
You may not use it as it is inappropriate ;).
So if it was two human characters with skin included, it would be appropriate?

It isn't inappropriate, it is neither vulgar, rude, offensive, nudity and anything that will upset members. So it is OK, not really appropriate but certainly not inappropriate...

[dannyisnotamazing]

Gomme do you just like to argue against anything in the feedback section?

[GommeInc]

Gomme do you just like to argue against anything in the feedback section?
... Maybe :P I only argue about the damn right insane things.

[Pyroka]

So if it was two human characters with skin included, it would be appropriate?

It isn't inappropriate, it is neither vulgar, rude, offensive, nudity and anything that will upset members. So it is OK, not really appropriate but certainly not inappropriate...

Agreed! Hey, lets remember why Moderators are in place: To protect the community who could be offended by other users & inappropriate content. I find this is one of those times where the users you're supposed to protect, might be the right people to listen to.

But then again, Moderators know the users better than the users themselves, right?

[Jamesy]

Although I usually hate to follow the masses, I would have to agree on this occasion. If there was many complaints or it was plainly vulgar or in bad taste then yes, by all means take it, but that was simply a cartoon image.

I've seen alts of naked habbos, and yet they stayed and were commented on by a moderator. You seem to have a lot of double standards.

[Kewl]

If it's so inappropriate it would have been edited out of his post when he re-posted it.

Thus i'd conclude it is allowed

[Pyroka]

Sorry to point out this, but the current position is that it's a 9 to 4 rate on the avatar being allowed. Maybe it's time to make some sort of amendment on your judgement?

EDIT: 9 to 5 rate. (What a way to make a livin'!) I do still think there's something wrong with this...

[MissAlice]

Although many will find it funny, I think the correct word might be it's not suitable ;)

[Dan2nd]

Although many will find it funny, I think the correct word might be it's not suitable ;)

I'm really struggleing to see how it's not suitable =[ I mean we're all teenagers we're all at an age where we find that kind of thing funny it's not like we're on the 'Sesame Street forum' where theres little kids posting we're all at least 11+ so meh ..theres no nudity or anything I just don't get it..

[Judge Judy]

It looks like Mario is doing a Heimlech Meneuver (sp?) to Princess Peach.

I don't really think it has caused halm to many members so I think he should be allowed to use it as an avatar.

[MissAlice]

I'm really struggleing to see how it's not suitable =[ I mean we're all teenagers we're all at an age where we find that kind of thing funny it's not like we're on the 'Sesame Street forum' where theres little kids posting we're all at least 11+ so meh ..theres no nudity or anything I just don't get it..

I found it funny, but I also think it's suggestive. I wouldn't like to say whether it's acceptable or unacceptable, that's why I described it as unsuitable. I also think adults would find it funny, not just teenagers ;)

[UnitedRoad]

how the hell is it unsuitable? this is just lame

[e5]

He might of been pinning peach's dress or something.

[mat64]

If it's so inappropriate it would have been edited out of his post when he re-posted it.

Thus i'd conclude it is allowedYou can post things like that if it's valid for discussion. Like when people avoid the filter to discuss why the word is filtered, that's fine ;).

[yido]

can i use it or nt ?????????????????????????? at least a decent admin say yes or no people like ss or w.e needs to get out more hardly offensive im putting it bak in idc

[The Professor]

can i use it or nt ?????????????????????????? at least a decent admin say yes or no people like ss or w.e needs to get out more hardly offensive im putting it bak in idc

I'm more than certain ss has the authority to say yes or no ;) You can't go crying to another smod/admin if one says no until one of them says yes.

[mat64]

I'm more than certain ss has the authority to say yes or no ;) You can't go crying to another smod/admin if one says no until one of them says yes.It seems to be a matter of opinion though between the super moderators. If you want a final decision on it then wait for Elkaa/J1MI or someone higher say something about it.

[yido]

kk thx matt rep m8

[Typoh]

just for refrence, dan dont like me and i dont like him.
as he didn't return my bet that i made. where i won.

But yh. it was a simple joke thou pmsl
warning for nout. oh well was fun.
tbh there nothign wrong with it u should just use it.

[yido]

ITS UP UNTILL JIMI SAYS I CANT USE IT

[J1MI]

It's very much not suitable for this forum sorry. Neither is reversing the actions of the (s)mods.

[L!nK..]

I used to have inappropriate images in my avatar, I'm sure people would remember and I had it for a while :D

[Jamesy]

It's very much not suitable for this forum sorry. Neither is reversing the actions of the (s)mods.

I highly disagree, changing the actions yes granted but removal in the first place.

There is no nudity, only a mld sex referenced and if I can say sex, post an article on sex with dolphins and have thread titles about sex then I deem a pixelated drawing showing nothing but mario standing behind her tbh fine.


oh, and it's that bad for an avatar but can still be posted? Double standards much.


ok i will upload it now *Removed*


QED.

Edited by Spectate (Forum Super Moderator): Quoted image removed.

[dannyisnotamazing]

I highly disagree, changing the actions yes granted but removal in the first place.

There is no nudity, only a mld sex referenced and if I can say sex, post an article on sex with dolphins and have thread titles about sex then I deem a pixelated drawing showing nothing but mario standing behind her tbh fine.


oh, and it's that bad for an avatar but can still be posted? Double standards much.




QED.
It being posted has already been explained. When something like this is discussed (eg a filtered word or an unsuitable image) then it is okay to show the image so that it can be discussed. Otherwise everyone would be like "PM me and tell me what it is about" and they wouldn't have anything to discuss because they wouldn't of seen what they was dicussing about. :rolleyes:.

[Jamesy]

It being posted has already been explained. When something like this is discussed (eg a filtered word or an unsuitable image) then it is okay to show the image so that it can be discussed. Otherwise everyone would be like "PM me and tell me what it is about" and they wouldn't have anything to discuss because they wouldn't of seen what they was dicussing about. :rolleyes:.

quiet you...

I still stand by my point. If Clinton can do it, so can Mario!

[today]

I used to have inappropriate images in my avatar, I'm sure people would remember and I had it for a while :D

Yes i remember them quiet well :eusa_whis

[GommeInc]

Actually he put a different avatar up by the looks of it, so he didn't reverse the actions of the super moderator. Anyway, it's a harmless picture.

[J1MI]

quiet you...

I still stand by my point. If Clinton can do it, so can Mario!

Clinton is a 64 year old man. The defacing of cartoon characters in a sexual manor is not appropriate for this forum. Not to mention the way in which the woman character is being demeaned.

[L!nK..]

Yes i remember them quiet well :eusa_whis


yeah, i think i started it off, and people started copying me from the site i got it from lol.

and liquidacid should remember this, spongebob ( user back then) moaned and made leaving thread because of it lol

[Jamesy]

Clinton is a 64 year old man. The defacing of cartoon characters in a sexual manor is not appropriate for this forum. Not to mention the way in which the woman character is being demeaned.

you said it yourself, "character". Characters are not real. Last time I checked the simpsons didn't get banned for sex references.

[le harry]

i can't really say anything till i've seen this avatar.. *hints*

[Glen Coco]

urr.....
all this over a silly cartoon? its not gonna offend anyone. they might not even be having cartoon sex.
like people have said before, its not showing anything. and wasnt it up for quite some while? swear i saw it ages agao.

[Pyroka]

I feel more like we're having a Hentai discussion than anything else... -.- Just let the lad have his avatar, seriously. If your standards are that high, then you'll have fun denying a 'few' people.

[Judge Judy]

i can't really say anything till i've seen this avatar.. *hints*

It's on first page.

[PaulMacC]

Your allowed to swear on habbo fGs

[Catzsy]

Clinton is a 64 year old man. The defacing of cartoon characters in a sexual manor is not appropriate for this forum. Not to mention the way in which the woman character is being demeaned.

Totally agree. Why on earth would you want an avatar like that anyway?

[Catzsy]

for the laughs

Yes i know you would. You lasted about a minute! :D

Edited by --ss-- (Forum Super Moderator): Double post will be ignored due it being caused by an post being deleted :).

[Pyroka]

I still don't see what the problem is with the avatar. As someone mentioned, you can see swearing in Habbo but of course that's an option to be enabled & disabled by the user. If you feel strongly this is wrong, then so be it. The management are sadly getting ever more ignorant of their users, it took a while to change .eu to .com didn't it? How long before you realise the way you're operating is rather corrupt, and that you're sending HabboxForum down the tube?

I hope it's soon, because I love this forum and I go on it everyday, so I wouldn't like to see it wrecked by the people who try to uphold it.

[Spectate]

I still don't see what the problem is with the avatar. As someone mentioned, you can see swearing in Habbo but of course that's an option to be enabled & disabled by the user. If you feel strongly this is wrong, then so be it. The management are sadly getting ever more ignorant of their users, it took a while to change .eu to .com didn't it? How long before you realise the way you're operating is rather corrupt, and that you're sending HabboxForum down the tube?

I hope it's soon, because I love this forum and I go on it everyday, so I wouldn't like to see it wrecked by the people who try to uphold it.

There was a general consensus between the super moderators and forum manager that the image is unsuitable for the forum. It's also clear that a number of members agree. There may be a vocal few (yourself included) who oppose the decision, but can you really speak on behalf of the hundreds of members who visit each day, as well as the prospective members taking a look at the forum for the very first time?

I don't see the need in potentially offending some users so that one member can have a slightly amusing (according to some) avatar that, when analysed, implies sexual content and promotes the degradation of women. I'm sure there are numerous other images that don't subscribe to the aforementioned. :)

[Pyroka]

A consensus eh? I'm guessing the Habbox council wasn't involved in this, I mean they don't have a say in anything to do with the members do they? I find that probably the most ironic statement said on my time on this forum, and it actually makes me think "Why did Habbox introduce a council who have no voice?" In reply to your comment about how a number of members agree, I think you'll find a majority of users will not agree, because:

- The majority of users disable their filters on Habbo
- Have one or two infractions (not everyones law-abiding)
- Actually have a sense of humour

I mean, when you say a vocal few then you'll find these are the people who are quite active on these forums. We may not speak on behalf of hundreds of members, nor do we try to, but to be honest Who would know the users better than themselves? It's the 21st Century, and we don't all live in a community where swearing is shunned upon & earns you a place in the gallows. That is basically how this community is starting to look like.

As for the 'prospective members', you'll find these people may also have a sense of humour about them. It's cartoon characters for gods sake, and if you really take something like that into offense and turn it into something to do with the rights women have, and such? You should work for the british film/gaming standards. If we have users who are offended by that, then they're probably people who shouldn't be on forums. xD

[Spectate]

A consensus eh? I'm guessing the Habbox council wasn't involved in this, I mean they don't have a say in anything to do with the members do they? I find that probably the most ironic statement said on my time on this forum, and it actually makes me think "Why did Habbox introduce a council who have no voice?" In reply to your comment about how a number of members agree, I think you'll find a majority of users will not agree, because:

- The majority of users disable their filters on Habbo
- Have one or two infractions (not everyones law-abiding)
- Actually have a sense of humour

I mean, when you say a vocal few then you'll find these are the people who are quite active on these forums. We may not speak on behalf of hundreds of members, nor do we try to, but to be honest Who would know the users better than themselves? It's the 21st Century, and we don't all live in a community where swearing is shunned upon & earns you a place in the gallows. That is basically how this community is starting to look like.

As for the 'prospective members', you'll find these people may also have a sense of humour about them. It's cartoon characters for gods sake, and if you really take something like that into offense and turn it into something to do with the rights women have, and such? You should work for the british film/gaming standards. If we have users who are offended by that, then they're probably people who shouldn't be on forums. xD

The Habbox Council cannot realistically be consulted on every single decision that any moderator makes. Surely some things have to be left to their discretion, otherwise their jobs would be rendered useless.

[Dan2nd]

There was a general consensus between the super moderators and forum manager that the image is unsuitable for the forum. It's also clear that a number of members agree. There may be a vocal few (yourself included) who oppose the decision, but can you really speak on behalf of the hundreds of members who visit each day, as well as the prospective members taking a look at the forum for the very first time?

I don't see the need in potentially offending some users so that one member can have a slightly amusing (according to some) avatar that, when analysed, implies sexual content and promotes the degradation of women. I'm sure there are numerous other images that don't subscribe to the aforementioned. :)

I can't beleive people have taken this image so seriously .... Its super mario for gods sake first off how does this promote degradation of women does it suggest anywhere in that picture that princess peach is being raped or she isn't enjoying the sexual act ? I don't think it does .... For gods sake people just look waaaaay to far into things and I've seen pictures in peoples sigs which I find way more sexually suggestive than this.. I just find this whole situation stupid and slightly humorous because again the top 'dawgs' are flexing their muscle showing us who's boss over a stupid cartoon picture... :rolleyes:

[Pyroka]

I wasn't asking for them to be consulted on every single decision, however when a members rights are involved, you would think they would, wouldn't you? I thought it was the Councils job to give the members a voice in some of the affairs of Habbox. I think it's becoming clear now that Moderation is one of those affairs which is deemed as 'forbidden' for the council to (in Moderators words) 'interfere with'. If that is indeed correct, then I think you need a change of policy, and in the way you operate your Moderation. Quickly too, because you're standards are becoming way too high for a teenage community.


I can't beleive people have taken this image so seriously .... Its super mario for gods sake first off how does this promote degradation of women does it suggest anywhere in that picture that princess peach is being raped or she isn't enjoying the sexual act ? I don't think it does .... For gods sake people just look waaaaay to far into things and I've seen pictures in peoples sigs which I find way more sexually suggestive than this.. I just find this whole situation stupid and slightly humorous because again the top 'dawgs' are flexing their muscle showing us who's boss over a stupid cartoon picture... :rolleyes:

Well, that's the bottom line for the way you're moderating!

[The Professor]

I wasn't asking for them to be consulted on every single decision, however when a members rights are involved, you would think they would, wouldn't you? I thought it was the Councils job to give the members a voice in some of the affairs of Habbox. I think it's becoming clear now that Moderation is one of those affairs which is deemed as 'forbidden' for the council to (in Moderators words) 'interfere with'. If that is indeed correct, then I think you need a change of policy, and in the way you operate your Moderation. Quickly too, because you're standards are becoming way too high for a teenage community.



Well, that's the bottom line for the way you're moderating!

If I'm right, the council are perfectly free to speak about moderation policies and forum rules and the such like, but you can't expect them to be consulted on a single decision for one member's avatar can you?

[kk.]

There was a general consensus between the super moderators and forum manager that the image is unsuitable for the forum. It's also clear that a number of members agree. There may be a vocal few (yourself included) who oppose the decision, but can you really speak on behalf of the hundreds of members who visit each day, as well as the prospective members taking a look at the forum for the very first time?

I don't see the need in potentially offending some users so that one member can have a slightly amusing (according to some) avatar that, when analysed, implies sexual content and promotes the degradation of women. I'm sure there are numerous other images that don't subscribe to the aforementioned. :)

so your saying that the person who removed the sig consulted nearly every person in management and super moderators before they removed the image. i highly doubt that if you cant even be bothered to consult a council. The council was made so the users got a say.


The Habbox Council cannot realistically be consulted on every single decision that any moderator makes. Surely some things have to be left to their discretion, otherwise their jobs would be rendered useless.

hold on, you jsut said that there was general consensus to the image between the staff but now your saying their allowed discretion make up your mind..
and also, no, not every decision but it is clear that this is a big enough issue because their have been 50ish replies to it.

There have been much worse sigs that people have had in their signatures and images like half naked women posing and people kissing in what can only be hinting something. A cartoon image that hints at something is hardly the same. for one, its a cartoon and not even real. and two, its not even offensive

if there are some users that are offended by that image then they shouldnt even be allowed on the forum (meaning that there too young to even be on here). The majority of the main users on the forum find the image hilarious and see it as a joke. the few users that would find that offensive are either being completely ridiculous or are actually joking.

[Catzsy]

A consensus eh? I'm guessing the Habbox council wasn't involved in this, I mean they don't have a say in anything to do with the members do they? I find that probably the most ironic statement said on my time on this forum, and it actually makes me think "Why did Habbox introduce a council who have no voice?" In reply to your comment about how a number of members agree, I think you'll find a majority of users will not agree, because:

- The majority of users disable their filters on Habbo
- Have one or two infractions (not everyones law-abiding)
- Actually have a sense of humour

I mean, when you say a vocal few then you'll find these are the people who are quite active on these forums. We may not speak on behalf of hundreds of members, nor do we try to, but to be honest Who would know the users better than themselves? It's the 21st Century, and we don't all live in a community where swearing is shunned upon & earns you a place in the gallows. That is basically how this community is starting to look like.

As for the 'prospective members', you'll find these people may also have a sense of humour about them. It's cartoon characters for gods sake, and if you really take something like that into offense and turn it into something to do with the rights women have, and such? You should work for the british film/gaming standards. If we have users who are offended by that, then they're probably people who shouldn't be on forums. xD

Well as part of the Habbox Council I do not think we would be involved in decisions like that as it is something specific rather than general policy but in any event I support the moderation department here. This forum is for people of 11+. That cartoon would not be allowed on pre-water shed TV and certainly I have never seen anything like it in the Simpsons. :S What games of 11+ would you see these sorts of images in? :S

Apart from innuendo of what Mario is doing, the female charactor appears lifeless/drugged so that is not a very nice interpretation is it? It portrays all sorts of adult themes if you actually take a minute to study it. Those who find it funny well that's fine but I don't and I do have a sense of humour. Thanks.

[today]

Wow this has gone too far..

Its only a avatar which is funny. (Y)

Personally i lol'd at it as it gave something to laugh about. Find me a 11yr old who finds this "unacceptable" ta.

[GommeInc]

There was a general consensus between the super moderators and forum manager that the image is unsuitable for the forum. It's also clear that a number of members agree. There may be a vocal few (yourself included) who oppose the decision, but can you really speak on behalf of the hundreds of members who visit each day, as well as the prospective members taking a look at the forum for the very first time?

I don't see the need in potentially offending some users so that one member can have a slightly amusing (according to some) avatar that, when analysed, implies sexual content and promotes the degradation of women. I'm sure there are numerous other images that don't subscribe to the aforementioned. :)
To be honest, if members planning on joining see that avatar, they may think that this forum actually has a sense of humour and make it look like a decent place. Not this, unexplainable, serious, strict and strangely becoming less enjoyable dump that it's slowly becoming.

This is a teen forum, not a baby forum come adult forum.


Well as part of the Habbox Council I do not think we would be involved in decisions like that as it is something specific rather than general policy but in any event I support the moderation department here. This forum is for people of 11+. That cartoon would not be allowed on pre-water shed TV and certainly I have never seen anything like it in the Simpsons. :S What games of 11+ would you see these sorts of images in? :S

Apart from innuendo of what Mario is doing, the female charactor appears lifeless/drugged so that is not a very nice interpretation is it? It portrays all sorts of adult themes if you actually take a minute to study it. Those who find it funny well that's fine but I don't and I do have a sense of humour. Thanks.
What Simpsons do you watch? They have sex often and make dirty quotes. Homer has 'de-meaned' a woman by pinching her bottom and drooling (which was infact a sweet) but the same none less. The Simpsons Movie had Marge and Homer having sex infront of animals, thus the horrified faces and Homer and Marge have run around naked when they had sex in a windmill. They've even shown Bart's penis in the film "/ And that's a 12A

[Catzsy]

Wow this has gone too far..

Its only a avatar which is funny. (Y)

Personally i lol'd at it as it gave something to laugh about. Find me a 11yr old who finds this "unacceptable" ta.

Thats not the point - It would not be shown on pre water shed TV and so is not suitable for this forum. I don't really think you understand the image properly and how it is portrayed. Gomme is they decide to change the forum to 14+ you have a point. :)

[GommeInc]

The Simpsons Movie is rated 12A... It actually shows Bart's penis in one of the scenes where he skateboards naked, and as stated, they ahve sex quite alot and children watch it...

[today]

Thats not the point - It would not be shown on pre water shed TV and so is not suitable for this forum. I don't really think you understand the image properly and how it is portrayed. Gomme is they decide to change the forum to 14+ you have a point. :)

I find you'll find more 11 year olds would find that funny as they probally play Mario then find it unacceptable, rememebr 11 year olds think "penis" is funny. :rolleyes:

[Catzsy]

The Simpsons Movie is rated 12A... It actually shows Bart's penis in one of the scenes where he skateboards naked, and as stated, they ahve sex quite alot and children watch it...

Hmm not exactly the same thing I don't think - this is an image that could be taken as someone committing a violent sexual act on a female who looks dead or drugged? It is a very odd image.
Yes Hollywood - please don't rolleye me :@ Agreed but they would not see that image as older more mature teenagers do and quite honestly you need to say why it is not offensive. I have told you why I think it is. Tell me why it is not?

[kk.]

she didnt look dead or drugged to me... or from what i can remember, someone send me link in pm

and as people said, simpsons.. kids watch it and sometimes worse thatn that image

[GommeInc]

Hmm not exactly the same thing I don't think - this is an image that could be taken as someone committing a violent sexual act on a female who looks dead or drugged? It is a very odd image.
Yes Hollywood - please don't rolleye me :@ Agreed but they would not see that image as older more mature teenagers do and quite honestly you need to say why it is not offensive. I have told you why I think it is. Tell me why it is not?
In the Simpsons, Homer harassed a woman and it could be taken the wrong way, so it's not that different. In Family Guy they had a gay sex scene and that's a 12A. The avatar suggests sex/harassment. In cartoons directed at 12A (children under with parental guidance), they suggest it and even do it. So it's not really that discusting when compared... Especially with such a small image :P

[Dan2nd]

Lol to me it just looks like Princess Peach is bending over happily receiving what mario is giving her I agree with Gomme the forum has become extreamly strict latley and that has resulted in my expearence as a user being less fun and I always feel like I have to think twice before posting as I'm treading on egg shells ...

[Catzsy]

Lol to me it just looks like Princess Peach is bending over happily receiving what mario is giving her I agree with Gomme the forum has become extreamly strict latley and that has resulted in my expearence as a user being less fun and I always feel like I have to think twice before posting as I'm treading on egg shells ...

Sorry don't agree with either of you here as much as you post. The female is not represented as happy as far as i can see. She is portrayed as a 'rag doll'. This forum has not become stricter - this sort of image has never been allowed. You are however entitled to your opinions as I am mine. :)

[e5]

They don't like anything that's remotely seen as pornographic or innapropriate, I hope you can see this aswell.

[today]

Hmm not exactly the same thing I don't think - this is an image that could be taken as someone committing a violent sexual act on a female who looks dead or drugged? It is a very odd image.
Yes Hollywood - please don't rolleye me :@ Agreed but they would not see that image as older more mature teenagers do and quite honestly you need to say why it is not offensive. I have told you why I think it is. Tell me why it is not?
But i know how much you love my rolleye icon. :rolleyes: Why its not offensive? Simple.
We are humans, they are not thus it has no effect on us. Its a image made of pixels and was created to give someone a laugh which simply does unless your some boring sod!Its only a chartacter, people are forgetting this forum is for teenagers = fun = humour = a laugh.


Lol to me it just looks like Princess Peach is bending over happily receiving what mario is giving her I agree with Gomme the forum has become extreamly strict latley and that has resulted in my expearence as a user being less fun and I always feel like I have to think twice before posting as I'm treading on egg shells ...
Well said.

[Jamesy]

But i know how much you love my rolleye icon. :rolleyes: Why its not offensive? Simple.
We are humans, they are not thus it has no effect on us. Its a image made of pixels and was created to give someone a laugh which simply does unless your some boring sod!Its only a chartacter, people are forgetting this forum is for teenagers = fun = humour = a laugh.


Well said.
EDIT: no you didn't my mistake. I have to agree, it's a teen forum and they should just accept the teen sense of humour.

[GommeInc]

The forum used to be less strict. I remember when Seacat and JackHb kept banning each other, and they were high-up in the Habbox Hierarchy. People have had, and dicussed more inappropriate material, but then it got strict and at the moment it seems to be getting less strict. The removal of some words in the filter proved that.

[today]

Didn't you earlier say you supported the decision?
Not what i know off, from what i remember was something like

"oh it must be uancceptable if its been removed" ;)

[Jamesy]

Not what i know off, from what i remember was something like

"oh it must be uancceptable if its been removed" ;)

Yeah I know, I went back and re read it ;)

[today]

Yeah I know, I went back and re read it ;)

Although i should probally disagree with you all and support the moderation team, i disagree that the avatar shouldnt be removed. :D

[Jamesy]

Although i should probally disagree with you all and support the moderation team, i disagree that the avatar shouldnt be removed. :D

KEEP YOUR OPINION.

That's the most idiotic thing to say since people said "oh that Hitler looks nice, let's vote for him!"

[GommeInc]

KEEP YOUR OPINION.

That's the most idiotic thing to say since people said "oh that Hitler looks nice, let's vote for him!"
No there's been stuipider things to say:

Such as when Hitler's dad said to his wife "You know, I am feel rather dirty to night. Shall we go up stairs and give it a right good go?"

[today]

I tend to thanks. Specially when it comes to Catszy, and how much me nad her love to disagree on so many things for so many silly reasons :rolleyes:


KEEP YOUR OPINION.

That's the most idiotic thing to say since people said "oh that Hitler looks nice, let's vote for him!"

Edit; Gommie = LOL!

[Jamesy]

No there's been stuipider things to say:

Such as when Hitler's dad said to his wife "You know, I am feel rather dirty to night. Shall we go up stairs and give it a right good go?"

Vicar of Dibley FTW

[Pyroka]

The forum used to be less strict. I remember when Seacat and JackHb kept banning each other, and they were high-up in the Habbox Hierarchy. People have had, and dicussed more inappropriate material, but then it got strict and at the moment it seems to be getting less strict. The removal of some words in the filter proved that.

That quote stood out to me, and says it all for this thread really. The forum is getting less strict, but at the same time it's getting harder on inforcing the rules which were in place at first, and not taken as seriously. It's like an eye for an eye, yes? Catzsy, I detected you might've took that offensively, and if that's true, my apologies. However, if you had read the T&C's when first registering, agreeing that you are of age for such a forum, and comply with COPA then you're allowed to register. What it seems to be is that Moderators are taking their job too seriously, not acknowledging you have to be 13 years or older to be on this forum (legally).

Do you know any 13 year olds who don't know what 'humping' means sexually? I'd bet most 13 year olds would find it humorous. The small minority of which you're basically 'protecting' probably wouldn't even be allowed to register on forums, since they'd be so offended by the views and opinions of others that they'd leave or be banned from the forum since it's not their sort of thing, or they're reacting in a vulgar way.

Anyway, that's delving into something else... Moderators have strict laws, running HabboxForum like a court room, and it's not good for the community. If you find an avatar like that offensive, then have you ever been on newgrounds.com? :]


Although i should probally disagree with you all and support the moderation team, i disagree that the avatar shouldnt be removed. :D

They'll put you in the gallows for that, you know...

[Dan2nd]

Sorry don't agree with either of you here as much as you post. The female is not represented as happy as far as i can see. She is portrayed as a 'rag doll'. This forum has not become stricter - this sort of image has never been allowed. You are however entitled to your opinions as I am mine. :)

Far doos Catzsy I fully respect you're opinion on this, it just suprises me people have been so offended by it I don't understand maybe I'm more light hearted on the subject then you and the management obvoiusly are =[

Also to be perfectly honest when I first saw the image I wasn't thinking zomgz mario is shoving his penis up princess peaches bum and I wasn't thinking about how princess peach ( a fictional character by the way) must have been feeling while mario was raping/forcing him self on to her while she was under the influence of drugs and or dead I just thought 'heh look it's mario in a funny posistion' That's why I think people have looked to far into it...

I was also refering to the forum as a whole being stricter not just on this occasion =]

[today]

They'll put you in the gallows for that, you know...
Damn it! :(



Also to be perfectly honest when I first saw the image I wasn't thinking zomgz mario is shoving his penis up princess peaches bum and I wasn't thinking about how princess peach ( a fictional character by the way) must have been feeling while mario was raping/forcing him self on to her while she was under the influence of drugs and or dead I just thought 'heh look it's mario in a funny posistion' That's why I think people have looked to far into it...

Exaclty how i thought till this whole thread was created and now people are trying to go "into detail on how it will effect this 11 year old in ten years how they saw a cahracter humping another, omgzz its gunna effect um!!!" Big whoop?

[Jamesy]

Damn it! :(


Exaclty how i thought till this whole thread was created and now people are trying to go "into detail on how it will effect this 11 year old in ten years how they saw a cahracter humping another, omgzz its gunna effect um!!!" Big whoop?

Welcome to the UK, may I take your coat?

[Pyroka]

Exaclty how i thought till this whole thread was created and now people are trying to go "into detail on how it will effect this 11 year old in ten years how they saw a cahracter humping another, omgzz its gunna effect um!!!" Big whoop?

Hehe, well it takes a while to realise the generation has definitely been de-sensitized, like when people found movies scary, it takes alot more to be scared now. I think the big issue is when 11 year olds see their parents humping. That'll cause some damage to their sweet little minds.

[Jamesy]

Hehe, well it takes a while to realise the generation has definitely been de-sensitized, like when people found movies scary, it takes alot more to be scared now. I think the big issue is when 11 year olds see their parents humping. That'll cause some damage to their sweet little minds.

to be honest I don't want to meet the kid that enjoys watching their parents humping...

[Pyroka]

to be honest I don't want to meet the kid that enjoys watching their parents humping...

Well I doubt many of them do... I bet the kid who would enjoy it though, is ripped constantly in school for it. Poor *******.

[Neversoft]

Then you should report your warning in the report infraction thread.

[today]

Then you should report your warning in the report infraction thread.
Why as the super moderators wont reverse it due to it "unacceptable" ;)

[Charly]

Ive read most've this thread and lol'd quite abit with how the mods are replying (not Hollywood) and how the users keep coming back with good points like Pyroka :]

I haven't even seen the image and it sounds rather funny to me imo ;)
Mods need to calm down and stop thinking they're always right...

[today]

I would post the image but it appears i wouldnt able too as its been removed from orginal post.

Which im slightly confused on as i thought you was able to post the image/word in discussion. ?

[mat64]

I would post the image but it appears i wouldnt able too as its been removed from orginal post.

Which im slightly confused on as i thought you was able to post the image/word in discussion. ?I thought that aswell, it's quite hard to discuss something when you cannot see what your discussing.

[Dan2nd]

Ive read most've this thread and lol'd quite abit with how the mods are replying (not Hollywood) and how the users keep coming back with good points like Pyroka :]

I haven't even seen the image and it sounds rather funny to me imo ;)
Mods need to calm down and stop thinking they're always right...


Amen to that :rolleyes:


I would post the image but it appears i wouldnt able too as its been removed from orginal post.

Which im slightly confused on as i thought you was able to post the image/word in discussion. ?
Seems like certain MODs are contridicting themselfs in the panic :P

[Pyroka]

Well I can distribute a link via PM if anyone wants it... I bet I'll get infracted for that, somehow haha. Actually, nevermind, seems I've covered my back by doing so. Unless HabboxForum suddenly introduces a new rule for distributing links via PM. Oh that'd be a laugh.

I'm waiting for the Moderators to use their last line of defense, "Shouldn't this thread be in 'Report Infraction Problems'?" hehe.

[today]

I thought that aswell, it's quite hard to discuss something when you cannot see what your discussing.
Indeed, oh well!?


I'm waiting for the Moderators to use their last line of defense, "Shouldn't this thread be in 'Report Infraction Problems'?" hehe.

Thats alreayd been said ma'dear.

[Jamesy]

do you think if that thread is removed they lose all their magic powahs?

[Immenseman]

Well this is clearly an opinion thing, some users might see this as unacceptable and some may not. I personally think it's fine however J1MI has said it's unacceptable and at the end of the day seeing as he runs the forum :).

[today]

Pardon, you've slightly lost me now.

The best thing i think to do is let this thread die now.

[Pyroka]

Thats alreayd been said ma'dear.

Well then, they're either talking out their rear holes, or repeating whats been said.


do you think if that thread is removed they lose all their magic powahs?

Yes.


Well this is clearly an opinion thing, some users might see this as unacceptable and some may not. I personally think it's fine however J1MI has said it's unacceptable and at the end of the day seeing as he runs the forum :).

Wow, it's the classic case of superiority between users and the management. I didn't see that one coming. J1MI finds alot of things unacceptable, here's a history lesson. I remember a hard-working MOD who was probably the best in the Habbo Section and would've gone onto being a SMOD, however due to his silly history with one incident in Habbox, they removed him from the team and he was gutted at most. I guess J1MI found that unacceptable, and it was an effort to protect the potential users. Heh.

I find Marmite unacceptable, but I don't exactly shun it into the abyss of nothingness.

[Catzsy]

But i know how much you love my rolleye icon. :rolleyes: Why its not offensive? Simple.
We are humans, they are not thus it has no effect on us. Its a image made of pixels and was created to give someone a laugh which simply does unless your some boring sod!Its only a chartacter, people are forgetting this forum is for teenagers = fun = humour = a laugh.


Well said.


Well thanks for basically saying I am a boring sod! To be honest thats pretty narrow minded and I thought you were more intelligent. How do you know it was made for a laugh? Why do you think there is a demand for cartoon porn in the first place? Very bad porn is made about almost every popular cartoon show there is. Please think about subjects a bit more deeply. Most cartoon porn is made to desentitise children for pretty bad reasons and its seems to have worked on you. Have you worked out why? The size of your font does not make you appear anymore intelligent you know. :)

[today]

Well thanks for basically saying I am a boring sod! To be honest thats pretty narrow minded and I thought you were more intelligent. How do you know it was made for a laugh? Why do you think there is a demand for cartoon porn in the first place? Very bad porn is made about almost every popular cartoon show there is. Please think about subjects a bit more deeply. Most cartoon porn is made to desentitise children for pretty bad reasons and its seems to have worked on you. Have you worked out why? The size of your font does not make you appear anymore intelligent you know. :)

Cartoon porn is extreme, this is a joke and belive me stop looking into things so much, lighten up Miss! :rolleyes: It was bigger to point something out, for you to spot it, which it did. :8

[Dan2nd]

Well thanks for basically saying I am a boring sod! To be honest thats pretty narrow minded and I thought you were more intelligent. How do you know it was made for a laugh? Why do you think there is a demand for cartoon porn in the first place? Very bad porn is made about almost every popular cartoon show there is. Please think about subjects a bit more deeply. Most cartoon porn is made to desentitise children for pretty bad reasons and its seems to have worked on you. Have you worked out why? The size of your font does not make you appear anymore intelligent you know. :)

We don't know it was made for laugh the same way we don't know it was made for the sole purpose of being cartoon porn even if it was made for that purpose its not very good theres not any nudity and I doubt anyone who saw it has been aroused :P In the end I guess the management have made there decision even if I disagree meh =[

[Catzsy]

Cartoon porn is extreme, this is a joke and belive me stop looking into things so much, lighten up Miss! :rolleyes: It was bigger to point something out, for you to spot it, which it did. :8

Hmm... you have absolutely no proof that it was made as a joke - Please prove it was. I haven't got a clue what you are talking about after the rolleyes. Doesn't make any sense at all. Cartoon porn is cartoon porn - they will start them on the inappropriate and then lead them on to worse and worse. I do not find this subject funny, thanks and I am surprised you do.

[-Xiangu-]

I think i know what image this thread is about. I find it quite funny and most people who have posted actually agree and I think this thread has gotton alot more attention that any other avatar post, surely people on this forum are mature enough not to take offense to it.

To catzy:

Cartoon porn origionated in japan as Anime and given the name "Hentai" (Meaning inappropriate) and I have never seen on any forum anyone angry at a picture like this one. Anime pictures i can understand as they look humanish but a cartoon character that looks nothing like a real person is completely appropriate imo.

[Jamesy]

Cartoon porn is extreme, this is a joke and belive me stop looking into things so much, lighten up Miss! :rolleyes: It was bigger to point something out, for you to spot it, which it did. :8


I agree (I can get some nice Portal stuff if you want it) is extreme. This shows no penetration, just princess stuck over mario.

[today]

Hmm... you have absolutely no proof that it was made as a joke - Please prove it was. I haven't got a clue what you are talking about after the rolleyes. Doesn't make any sense at all. Cartoon porn is cartoon porn - they will start them on the inappropriate and then lead them on to worse and worse. I do not find this subject funny, thanks and I am surprised you do.
You've took the whole subject too far Catszy, the avatar was added as a joke and to be "cool" which which a funny joke, there is no sexual intercourse, yes humping, but Shane Ward's music vidoe has humping and that can be shown anytime of the day, explain that?

[Catzsy]

I think i know what image this thread is about. I find it quite funny and most people who have posted actually agree and I think this thread has gotton alot more attention that any other avatar post, surely people on this forum are mature enough not to take offense to it.

To catzy:

Cartoon porn origionated in japan as Anime and given the name "Hentai" (Meaning inappropriate) and I have never seen on any forum anyone angry at a picture like this one. Anime pictures i can understand as they look humanish but a cartoon character that looks nothing like a real person is completely appropriate imo.

We are not talking about 'Hentai' - I give up. There are cases in the criminal courts everyday producing cartoon porn as evidence of grooming. Quite honestly if nobody can see what implications these types of things can have why should I bother. As I said before the moderation department were correct IMHO. Hollywood you post without thinking what on earth you are saying. The innuendo could mean either that's why its considered inappropriate. I have taken the subject too far as far as you are concerned :S Should I care about this?

[Dan2nd]

I think everyone should lay off Catzsy she is entitled to her opinion and it's not just her after all whos against the image and fair play to her standing her ground when she's debating on her own vs like five people.

I guess this is just one of those subjects where some people find things funny where others find them hugely offensive like alot of religious cases.

[today]

We are not talking about 'Hentai' - I give up. There are cases in the criminal courts everyday producing cartoon porn as evidence of grooming. Quite honestly if nobody can see what implications these types of things can have why should I bother. As I said before the moderation department were correct IMHO. Hollywood you post without thinking what on earth you are saying. The innuendo could mean either that's why its considered inappropriate. I have taken the subject too far as far as you are concerned :S Should I care about this?

Either way? As i said Shane Ward's music video has humping and yet that can be shown anytime of the day, this is a small avatar, animated with a few frames, and its not allowed!? Explain why? as its unacceptable? then tell Shane Ward to get rid of his video as its "unacceptable" for 11 and under. :rolleyes:

Shall we stop this now? ;)

edit:
Dan i agree she can say what she likes and i dont fault her for that as she clearly wont agree with me, damnit. :(

[Jamesy]

We are not talking about 'Hentai' - I give up. There are cases in the criminal courts everyday producing cartoon porn as evidence of grooming. Quite honestly if nobody can see what implications these types of things can have why should I bother. As I said before the moderation department were correct IMHO. Hollywood you post without thinking what on earth you are saying. The innuendo could mean either that's why its considered inappropriate. I have taken the subject too far as far as you are concerned :S Should I care about this?


What implications. Sorry to be blunt and I really respect you for fighting for everything you believe in but.

IT'S A BLOODY PIXEL MAN AND PIXEL WOMAN. How do we know Peaches didn't consent anyway. She might have been ********* and photographed at the wrong time making it appear her eyes were closed. :rolleyes: if you want to get into serious court room psychology on a small picture.

[Catzsy]

What implications. Sorry to be blunt and I really respect you for fighting for everything you believe in but.

IT'S A BLOODY PIXEL MAN AND PIXEL WOMAN. How do we know Peaches didn't consent anyway. She might have been ********* and photographed at the wrong time making it appear her eyes were closed. :rolleyes: if you want to get into serious court room psychology on a small picture.

Okay answer as simply as possible. Man meets family. Man gets friendly with family. Man babysits for family and brings his 'own' videos along. Cartoons with a twist - the grooming starts. Need I say more?

[Jamesy]

Okay answer as simply as possible. Man meets family. Man gets friendly with family. Man babysits for family and brings his 'own' videos along. Cartoons with a twist - the grooming starts. Need I say more?

Yes, explain how a picture of peaches and mario can somehow now be connected with paedophiles and grooming.

[The Professor]

What implications. Sorry to be blunt and I really respect you for fighting for everything you believe in but.

IT'S A BLOODY PIXEL MAN AND PIXEL WOMAN. How do we know Peaches didn't consent anyway. She might have been ********* and photographed at the wrong time making it appear her eyes were closed. :rolleyes: if you want to get into serious court room psychology on a small picture.

That sounds a little like clutching at straws now. I think its clear to anyone what the picture depicts, the issue under debate is whether its acceptable for kids of 11.

[Jamesy]

That sounds a little like clutching at straws now. I think its clear to anyone what the picture depicts, the issue under debate is whether its acceptable for kids of 11.

To be honest I've seen kids of 11 swearing at people driving cars and throwing stones at me.

11 year olds aren't some precious god given gift from above. They aren't like little children. They are nearly at puberty, if not already beginning the first steps.

[Catzsy]

Yes, explain how a picture of peaches and mario can somehow now be connected with paedophiles and grooming.

Because to start with they would use these well known charactors in just inppropriate positions to start desenstising them. Do you know if this is just a 3 sec animation or is it from a longer cartoon? Anything that children identify with are weapons for peados. I am not going to get more graphic but you
can see that children are vulnerable in this.

[Dan2nd]

Okay answer as simply as possible. Man meets family. Man gets friendly with family. Man babysits for family and brings his 'own' videos along. Cartoons with a twist - the grooming starts. Need I say more?

I fully understand what you're saying Catzsy and I know thoughs things happen but I think the thing people (me included) don't understand is why this image which is hardly that bad is being made out to be a pedofiles plot to infultrate hxf

edit: ok I've seen you're post above just give me a sec to respond

ok to you're above post:

Again as much as I'd like to agree with you I still think it's just one of those humourous animations people post on the internet I have hundreds of them as emotions on msn but does that make me a peado? I do see what you're getting at now though but do not fully agree like said above.

[Jamesy]

Because to start with they would use these well known charactors in just inppropriate positions to start desenstising them. Do you know if this is just a 3 sec animation or is it from a longer cartoon? Anything that children identify with are weapons for peados. I am not going to get more graphic but you
can see that children are vulnerable in this.


Well for a start if there are little kids on this forum then it's the parents responsibility to inform them about the dangers of the internet.

and you make it sound as if the internet is some scary place with a peadophile at every corner, this is not true.

[-Xiangu-]

I'm pointing out this isn't hentai and most cartoon porn is hentai/anime

my point is this image isn't porn at all.

Pornography sometimes shortened to porn or porno, is the explicit representation of the human body or sexual activity with the goal of sexual arousal. It is similar to, but distinct from erotica, which is the use of sexually arousing imagery used for artistic purposes only. - definition from google

the image shows no sexual activity as they are both fully clothed

[Dan2nd]

Guys I don't think she's saying it's full blown porn I took it as: a child seeing well known cartoon characters performing these actions could give a child groomer the chance to make them think it's a normal thing to do therefore giving him/her the chance to engage in this sort of behavior with the child.

[Jamesy]

Guys I don't think she's saying it's full blown porn I took it as: a child seeing well known cartoon characters performing these actions could give a child groomer the chance to make them think it's a normal thing to do therefore giving him/her the chance to engage in this sort of behavior with the child.

then it's the bloody parents responsibility to ensure they don't get that far.

[-Xiangu-]

i see where your coming from but i still stand by my opinion

[--ss--]

I'm pointing out this isn't hentai and most cartoon porn is hentai/anime

my point is this image isn't porn at all.

Pornography sometimes shortened to porn or porno, is the explicit representation of the human body or sexual activity with the goal of sexual arousal. It is similar to, but distinct from erotica, which is the use of sexually arousing imagery used for artistic purposes only. - definition from google

The image shows no sexual activity as they are both fully clothed
It may not be porn but it is still inappropriate.
There is soo much irony in this thread, I bet if we had left the image half the people who posted here would complain that we left the image , you guys just try make a big deal out of every small thing and blame it on staff :/

[The Professor]

To be honest I've seen kids of 11 swearing at people driving cars and throwing stones at me.

11 year olds aren't some precious god given gift from above. They aren't like little children. They are nearly at puberty, if not already beginning the first steps.

Don't let the minority make you generalise about the majority. I do voluntary work at a primary school in an area that isn't exactly too pleasant, and almost all of the kids are your typical 11 year olds who like action men and barbies. I know when I was in year 6 there were only a couple of 11 year olds involved in that "scene" out of around 70.

I don't think its responsible as a forum aimed at young-mid teens to allow these sorts of suggestive images. But obviously I'm in the minority.

[Dan2nd]

Yes as I said above I disagree the avatar in question is as bad as that

[Catzsy]

I'm pointing out this isn't hentai and most cartoon porn is hentai/anime

my point is this image isn't porn at all.

Pornography sometimes shortened to porn or porno, is the explicit representation of the human body or sexual activity with the goal of sexual arousal. It is similar to, but distinct from erotica, which is the use of sexually arousing imagery used for artistic purposes only. - definition from google

the image shows no sexual activity as they are both fully clothed

Sorry pornography has got nothing to do with whether people have clothes on or off. I prefer the Oxford Dictionary definition, myself. Implied sexual activity/innuendo such as this image is not suitable for children. I did not say that it was porn - I said that these images could lead onto cartoon porn.

Why I have got on my soap box is because a lot of you just think its funny without thinking there is any valid reason why it shouldn't be allowed.

I am just asking you think about the subject a bit deeper and see why they are not allowed.

[-Xiangu-]

It may not be porn but it is still inappropriate.
There is soo much irony in this thread, I bet if we had left the image half the people who posted here would complain that we left the image , you guys just try make a big deal out of every small thing and blame it on staff :/


excuse me? I'm not trying to make a big deal. Im voicing my opinion.

and I am staff and this is the only debate I've gotton into in a while and I have the utmost respect for staff as well as ordinary members

[Jamesy]

It may not be porn but it is still inappropriate.
There is soo much irony in this thread, I bet if we had left the image half the people who posted here would complain that we left the image , you guys just try make a big deal out of every small thing and blame it on staff :/

I never once blamed the staff. I quite often go AGAINST the bandwagon and stand up for the staff.

[Boonzeet]

We are not talking about 'Hentai' - I give up. There are cases in the criminal courts everyday producing cartoon porn as evidence of grooming. Quite honestly if nobody can see what implications these types of things can have why should I bother. As I said before the moderation department were correct IMHO. Hollywood you post without thinking what on earth you are saying. The innuendo could mean either that's why its considered inappropriate. I have taken the subject too far as far as you are concerned :S Should I care about this?

No, you shouldn't care. It wasn't porn, I've seen it on other forums. It was a fully dressed mario and peaches. For all you know, She was choking on a peice of bread and he performed the Heimlich manouvre which gave him a level up.

Porn is images that directly show body parts such as breasts, between the legs, etc. when nude. This was not nude, so therefore not a pornographical image. Habbox has to be the ONLY forum to remove this, as I saw it on about 5 that I reguarly use, and it's still there.

So please, let this crap drop, and allow the use of it?
Is that something in the Mod/Manager application form:
"Do you have no sense of humour: (yes)|no"
"Well done you have no humour, lets make him a mod.

Seriously it was a JOKE! Learn to laugh a little?

EDITS:

Implied sexual activity/innuendo such as this image is not suitable for children. I did not say that it was porn - I said that these images could lead onto cartoon porn.


We aren't children, we are mostly teenagers. Unless you are a child? I think not. It's a single image, it wont lead to porn. Stop trying to sound intelligent, It isn't working.

[Falcon]

back to day care now.

[Boonzeet]

back to day care now.
The moderators should go back there.

[--ss--]

excuse me? I'm not trying to make a big deal. Im voicing my opinion.

and I am staff and this is the only debate I've gotton into in a while and I have the utmost respect for staff as well as ordinary members
Wasn't aimed at you ;).

[Dan2nd]

Fair play to Catzsy's last comment I think this debate has got a bit tired and old now I guess Habbox have to protect the user's and themselfs from a potential risk so meh I haven't really got anything else to say for my arguement now so meh I guess Catzsy beat me gwarrg :'( I don't even really remember what it looks like now so meh xD

[today]

Guys I don't think she's saying it's full blown porn I took it as: a child seeing well known cartoon characters performing these actions could give a child groomer the chance to make them think it's a normal thing to do therefore giving him/her the chance to engage in this sort of behavior with the child.
If thats the case, how many times will a user come on here and know someone who lives very close and will go "hey lets try this out?" :rolleyes:

[Dan2nd]

If thats the case, how many times will a user come on here and know someone who lives very close and will go "hey lets try this out?" :rolleyes:

Well you never know if a peado does come on here he/she may be able to drive :P



And Boonzeet that was a little harsh :(

[Boonzeet]

Guys I don't think she's saying it's full blown porn I took it as: a child seeing well known cartoon characters performing these actions could give a child groomer the chance to make them think it's a normal thing to do therefore giving him/her the chance to engage in this sort of behavior with the child.


So a Joke pic of mario makes parents molest children? I think not.

[Dan2nd]

So a Joke pic of mario makes parents molest children? I think not.

Why are you turning on me lol I was just trying to point out what Catzsy was saying lol...

[Catzsy]

If thats the case, how many times will a user come on here and know someone who lives very close and will go "hey lets try this out?" :rolleyes:

You know your naivety beggers belief sometimes. Do you think Habbox would want to support any image that could be used to groom a child whether you think it would or not? Do some research and come back with a more informed opinion please *Tears hair out*. I presume as a mod you would report it if it is posted again?

As Dan says the subject is getting a bit tired now.:)

Bonzeet you need to read the thread - you have totally misunderstood the points.

[Boonzeet]

You know your naivety beggers belief sometimes. Do you think Habbox would want to support any image that could be used to groom a child whether you think it would or not? Do some research and come back with a more informed opinion please *Tears hair out*. I presume as a mod you would report it if it is posted again?

As Dan says the subject is getting a bit tired now.:)

Bonzeet you need to read the thread - you have totally misunderstood the points.

Unlike SOME I actually read every single post, I know what this is about.

He literally said that if a child saw that image, it would induce a groomer (whatever the hell that means) to turn upon the child.

Habbox don't care - the people who dictate over it do.

[Pyroka]

*sigh* I agree, this thread is getting tired now... The Moderators won't change their ways, the management are ignorant of what has been put in front of them. The beast lives on.

[today]

You know your naivety beggers belief sometimes. Do you think Habbox would want to support any image that could be used to groom a child whether you think it would or not? Do some research and come back with a more informed opinion please *Tears hair out*. I presume as a mod you would report it if it is posted again?

As Dan says the subject is getting a bit tired now.:)

Bonzeet you need to read the thread - you have totally misunderstood the points.
Indeed i would report it only as its deemed unacceptable by higher managment. ;)

[Dan2nd]

Unlike SOME I actually read every single post, I know what this is about.

He literally said that if a child saw that image, it would induce a groomer (whatever the hell that means) to turn upon the child.

Habbox don't care - the people who dictate over it do.




Guys I don't think she's saying it's full blown porn I took it as: a child seeing well known cartoon characters performing these actions could give a child groomer the chance to make them think it's a normal thing to do therefore giving him/her the chance to engage in this sort of behavior with the child.

As Quoted above I clearly didn't refer to the that specific picture ...


I was actually against this image being removed but unlike alot of narrow minded people who have posted I've been trying to see it from Catzsys perspective

Edit: I'm not refering to everyone just one or two people

[Elkaa]

It's an avatar that was deemed inappropriate by the Super Moderators - Does it really require over 150 posts about it?

[today]

It's an avatar that was deemed inappropriate by the Super Moderators - Does it really require over 150 posts about it?
Yeah!! :) We were having a well good discussion about chartoo porn thanks ;]

[Dan2nd]

It's an avatar that was deemed inappropriate by the Super Moderators - Does it really require over 150 posts about it?

heh heh its the principle of the thing =D.... but once we pop we just can't stop :P

[-Xiangu-]

I would say 150 posts would mean this is a hot topic where something should be reviewed

[Elkaa]

I'd say spamming in here will end you up with a one way ticket to being banned ;)

If you have any serious complaints about this avatar being removed, you can send them to myself in a PM and I will look into it - But as far as I'm aware, the avatar was correct to be removed.

[Boonzeet]

I'd say spamming in here will end you up with a one way ticket to being banned ;)

If you have any serious complaints about this avatar being removed, you can send them to myself in a PM and I will look into it - But as far as I'm aware, the avatar was correct to be removed.

Well they don't look banned to me.

[Jamesy]

I'd say spamming in here will end you up with a one way ticket to being banned ;)

If you have any serious complaints about this avatar being removed, you can send them to myself in a PM and I will look into it - But as far as I'm aware, the avatar was correct to be removed.

If this ticket is anything like a train ticket it's over priced and late.

[-Xiangu-]

I understand that every poster has been serious other than "thehumps" who is now banned

[Dan2nd]

CHOCOLATE RAIN

SUCK MY KISSS
*Removed*

I still find it ironic that they removed that avatar because it wasn't suitable and this has been posted three times in this thread for quite some time and hasn't been removed...


Edit: it's been removed now tar.. :P

[Catzsy]

I'd say spamming in here will end you up with a one way ticket to being banned ;)

If you have any serious complaints about this avatar being removed, you can send them to myself in a PM and I will look into it - But as far as I'm aware, the avatar was correct to be removed.

Can't say I have seen any spamming and don't see the problem with a discussion about it. Jimi and other staff have entered into it. He could have pm'd you but he chose to exercise his right to bring it to the attention of the forum which is his right isn't it? Also don't you have to persistently and
mad loads of posts/threads to get banned for spamming? :S

[dannyisnotamazing]

Can't say I have seen any spamming and don't see the problem with a discussion about it. Jimi and other staff have entered into it :S
He was on about another person spamming. ;p

[Catzsy]

It's an avatar that was deemed inappropriate by the Super Moderators - Does it really require over 150 posts about it?

It was this Danny that I was really referring to and I didn't see much evidence of spamming. He is entitled to his point of view but then we are entitled to discuss it. If it was felt inappropriate to post I am sure that Jimi would not have replied.

[dannyisnotamazing]

It was this Danny that I was really referring to and I didn't see much evidence of spamming. He is entitled to his point of view but then we are entitled to discuss it. If it was felt inappropriate to post I am sure that Jimi would not have replied.
Oh, I see. :) Ok. I was on about a deleted post that Elkaa was referring to as spam.