wth - Venomous Habbulus

[Okeanos]

Why are these going down? i havent seen any sold for a while let alone sold for 2t 10 hc

Earlier they where 3t and i made a thread asking for 3t 10 because that is the lowest id sell it for (there aren't that many in the hotel)

But now its suddenly 2t 10, ridiculous...... this is just further evidence that value reporters make it up or else base there value on a single trade

[Okeanos]

still it is unanswered

hmp

Edited by lAscend (Forum Moderator): Please don't bump your threads just wait for a reply and be patience.

[toyboy999]

more were given out as prizes

[Okeanos]

more? i haven't seen any more since i got mine for the nifty nine room comp

habboxs values just dont make sense, there are thousands upon thousands of dinos, gold nellies, red and blue bird baths yet for a couple more HC you can buy super rares that are very rare indeed! like the purple ICM, the venomous habbulus and the info bus poster!

The super rare values are a joke

Edit: i have just seen someone selling for 2t, but they wouldn't be if habbox didnt put it at 2t in the first place. Stupid people who trust habbox to a T

[Flamedragon3]

more? i haven't seen any more since i got mine for the nifty nine room comp

habboxs values just dont make sense, there are thousands upon thousands of dinos, gold nellies, red and blue bird baths yet for a couple more HC you can buy super rares that are very rare indeed! like the purple ICM, the venomous habbulus and the info bus poster!

The super rare values are a joke

Edit: i have just seen someone selling for 2t, but they wouldn't be if habbox didnt put it at 2t in the first place. Stupid people who trust habbox to a T

As someone has already posted, they were recently given out as a prize, and if more come out and more are in circulation, then they are most likely going to drop more in value...

When the Venomus Habbolus was 3T 25CS (around that value), Papermoon bought a second one for only 3T. It was still the same value of 3T 25CS (around that value) and someone I saw was asking for 3T 10CS, just like you are now, and they suddenly asked for 3T... and eventually wanted even less than that as it was such a struggle for them to sell.

It is not us that are the cause of the Venomus Habbolus to decrease in value, but it is the habbo public themselves, as they are willing to sell their Venomus Habbolus under the Habbox value so we correct our value to what we have seen others trade for. If you haven't seen it sell for 2T 10CS then don't expect that it hasn't.

[Blue]

habboxs values just dont make sense, there are thousands upon thousands of dinos, gold nellies, red and blue bird baths yet for a couple more HC you can buy super rares that are very rare indeed! like the purple ICM, the venomous habbulus and the info bus poster!

Have you ever thought that certain items are wanted more than others, e.g The throne is an extremely popular rare, but samovar isn't.

[e5]

If it was only traded once where else would it be valued on? You moan about the values yet you don't need to use them? OK most people do so it's a little hard but you can push the price, habbox is only a guide which alot of people fail to see :).

[immense]

At the end of they day I have been offered these for lower on habbo UK. I think the habbox value is pretty accurate at the moment. You say about the birdbaths and nellies I think you're forgetting how the rare values system works. People pay what they want to regardless of the amount on the hotel. The older classic rares like dinos and bbs I don't think will ever be released but more modern rares have a higher chance of being released. The rare values system should work on demand and what people are paying for the item which is what habbox has done, end of.

[Srieny]

iv seen them traded for 2t more than once.

[@xP]

I agree.

If Habbox put the Dino to 1t the whole hotel would sell them for 1t.
It's the way people work, people follow Habbox.

I've always agreed that supers should be based on a number of trades, not just one. I can gurantee some rare value reporters do make values up.
However the management will catch them out eventually.

[Sharpsterz]

Blame Kors For The Drop :)

[Okeanos]

earlier a girl told me that she sold hers for 5 thrones, not sure if that is true but i decided to test it out so i put it in my shop name and what do you know? 10 minutes after im offered 150HC which is 40 hc above the habbox value

i didn't accept it, im sticking to my principles and holding out for abit more

proof though that the value is wrong


As someone has already posted, they were recently given out as a prize, and if more come out and more are in circulation, then they are most likely going to drop more in value...

When the Venomus Habbolus was 3T 25CS (around that value), Papermoon bought a second one for only 3T. It was still the same value of 3T 25CS (around that value) and someone I saw was asking for 3T 10CS, just like you are now, and they suddenly asked for 3T... and eventually wanted even less than that as it was such a struggle for them to sell.

It is not us that are the cause of the Venomus Habbolus to decrease in value, but it is the habbo public themselves, as they are willing to sell their Venomus Habbolus under the Habbox value so we correct our value to what we have seen others trade for. If you haven't seen it sell for 2T 10CS then don't expect that it hasn't.


but this is exactly my point, you are basing the value on one or two trades! the fact is theres always going to be habbos who just want a quick sale or dont care that much what they get for it but that should alter the value?

you base your values on what you see, and what you see is trades that go on in the forums, and what iv noticed from using this forum is that everyone seems to go as low as possible! if a rare is valued at 5 thrones you'd offer 3 etc.. this just forces the price down more!

ridiculous


If it was only traded once where else would it be valued on? You moan about the values yet you don't need to use them? OK most people do so it's a little hard but you can push the price, habbox is only a guide which alot of people fail to see :).


habbos are led in to the belief that habbox is law, i know the site doesn't purposely give out this impression but because of she sheer numbers of users its near impossible to go against it


At the end of they day I have been offered these for lower on habbo UK. I think the habbox value is pretty accurate at the moment. You say about the birdbaths and nellies I think you're forgetting how the rare values system works. People pay what they want to regardless of the amount on the hotel. The older classic rares like dinos and bbs I don't think will ever be released but more modern rares have a higher chance of being released. The rare values system should work on demand and what people are paying for the item which is what habbox has done, end of.

nonsense!

the dj decks and gold amber are just as old as bird baths and dinos and they were released

[e5]

I agree.

If Habbox put the Dino to 1t the whole hotel would sell them for 1t.
It's the way people work, people follow Habbox.

I've always agreed that supers should be based on a number of trades, not just one. I can gurantee some rare value reporters do make values up.
However the management will catch them out eventually.

I don't think they would, they'd just say how "corrupt" habbox is again, lol :P. I think if Habbox put it at 1t people would buy/sell for about 1t 15, so you're kinda right, Corey. The thing with supers people like to pay less for them and people like the sell them for higher amounts :D.

[GoldenMerc]

Habbox Value:2T 10 hcs
HHGS Value:2T or 102 hcs
So overall its what values you choose but Habbox's oviously is pretty close to the correct value :]

[Flamedragon3]

earlier a girl told me that she sold hers for 5 thrones, not sure if that is true but i decided to test it out so i put it in my shop name and what do you know? 10 minutes after im offered 150HC which is 40 hc above the habbox value

If she print screened the trade, or gave us enough evidence that she sold it for 5T, then it would go up in value on Habbox. But for all you know, she could be making that up, so that it goes up in value. (We get people making up trades a lot to make us change the value!)




but this is exactly my point, you are basing the value on one or two trades! the fact is theres always going to be habbos who just want a quick sale or dont care that much what they get for it but that should alter the value?
Three actually. Also, Supers are different than Normal Rares, as there is less of them in the hotel, and maybe two or three trades (even one) of a Super rare, is enough to change the value, depending on how many are in the hotel. And there is probably about 5-15 Venomus Habbolus in the hotel?


you base your values on what you see, and what you see is trades that go on in the forums, and what iv noticed from using this forum is that everyone seems to go as low as possible! if a rare is valued at 5 thrones you'd offer 3 etc.. this just forces the price down more!
Who said I report the trades I see in forums? I don't ever use trades that I see on the forums? I see them purely on Habbo. I saw someone buy/sell a Venomus Habbolus for under 3T in Vintus old casino (it just had Thrones on one side and a booth)

[Okeanos]

why should 3 affect the value? logic dictates that there needs to be a majority so why are you going along with a minority?

if 10 people had sold them for that price then fair enough, but 3?!

im now refusing to take less than 280HC, its not like its a horrible rare and it isnt desired much because it is!

surely the sellers opinion on the value must be taken in to consideration?

[GhostFace-]

I agree.

If Habbox put the Dino to 1t the whole hotel would sell them for 1t.
It's the way people work, people follow Habbox.

I've always agreed that supers should be based on a number of trades, not just one. I can gurantee some rare value reporters do make values up.
However the management will catch them out eventually.


i really want that to happen then people will find out that habbox is a guide not a law

[Immenseman]

why should 3 affect the value? logic dictates that there needs to be a majority so why are you going along with a minority?

if 10 people had sold them for that price then fair enough, but 3?!

im now refusing to take less than 280HC, its not like its a horrible rare and it isnt desired much because it is!

surely the sellers opinion on the value must be taken in to consideration?

Of course three people selling will affect the value. Not many of these are sold right so when three people decide to sell up for lower than the Habbox value then of course it needs updating. We like to base our values on the most recent trade that went through on these super rares because there's so little of them and sometimes it can be weeks even months before myself or one of my team witness a trade.

If we considered what the sellers were asking for then the values would be crazy. For example someone could ask 15T for their Sky dragon but the highest bidder doesn't go past 7T. We only base our values on actual trades that have gone through. If we did it any other way there would be major loopholes which people would abuse to higher the value of rares they owned.

If more of these begin to sell at higher values then the value on Habbox will increase. Did you just expect us to ignore the trades that were happening? I don't think so. I understand it must be very annoying when you own a rare and people begin to sell for less because they're impatient and foolish but it happens and it always will.

[execution]

Its because the plants crap my penpal.

[Okeanos]

Of course three people selling will affect the value. Not many of these are sold right so when three people decide to sell up for lower than the Habbox value then of course it needs updating. We like to base our values on the most recent trade that went through on these super rares because there's so little of them and sometimes it can be weeks even months before myself or one of my team witness a trade.

If we considered what the sellers were asking for then the values would be crazy. For example someone could ask 15T for their Sky dragon but the highest bidder doesn't go past 7T. We only base our values on actual trades that have gone through. If we did it any other way there would be major loopholes which people would abuse to higher the value of rares they owned.

If more of these begin to sell at higher values then the value on Habbox will increase. Did you just expect us to ignore the trades that were happening? I don't think so. I understand it must be very annoying when you own a rare and people begin to sell for less because they're impatient and foolish but it happens and it always will.

the exact same can be said for buyers! they can and do offer ridiculously low prices

the system is floored imo

[--ss--]

Well they're ugly and there isn't much demand for them?
Seriously no one is going to pay a few T for an item which can't even used in most rooms , The higher valued supers are the ones which look good and you can show off in your Casino.

[Okeanos]

Well they're ugly and there isn't much demand for them?
Seriously no one is going to pay a few T for an item which can't even used in most rooms , The higher valued supers are the ones which look good and you can show off in your Casino.

so why does every good casino have one?

[AgnesIO]

to the above: Er it doesnt?!

[-:Undertaker:-]

Well they're ugly and there isn't much demand for them?
Seriously no one is going to pay a few T for an item which can't even used in most rooms , The higher valued supers are the ones which look good and you can show off in your Casino.

Actually these plants are the most popular super rares we've had in a long time, they are unique and normally go well as a focul point in rooms.

On the point of their value, they HAVE been going for 2T - 3T but more recently at 2T mark. More are given out which means a price drop. You arguement on the latest value is flawed as there are 50,000 Thrones which means you get the adverage, it is almost impossible to get adverages for super such as smokes, icms and plants.

[Flamedragon3]

why should 3 affect the value? logic dictates that there needs to be a majority so why are you going along with a minority?

if 10 people had sold them for that price then fair enough, but 3?!
Jake has just told you that because tehre isn't many. But I also said this when I mentioned three can change the value. If its 3T 25CS, and three trades are below 3T, and there is only about 10-15 in the hotel and no other trades have been done, how does it stand a chance of staying at 3T 25CS? Lol.


so why does every good casino have one?
Viennese doesn't? Jean.Piere doesn't? And they're the two most popular Casino's at this moment in time.

[Boxiel]

I sold 2 @ 2T 10 and 2T 15 last week actually.

I would say the values are spot on, good job.

[fitcovboy]

OMG more accusations of the values being fixed! Values go up and down ...... you just have to trade wisely. I bought 2 gold lasers for 10T and look at them now ..... its only pixels at the end of the day.

[Immenseman]

I sold 2 @ 2T 10 and 2T 15 last week actually.

I would say the values are spot on, good job.


OMG more accusations of the values being fixed! Values go up and down ...... you just have to trade wisely. I bought 2 gold lasers for 10T and look at them now ..... its only pixels at the end of the day.

God bless you both!

[Okeanos]

lol i'd just like to know why its gone down even more?

i haven't seen any sold for a while so i duno what your basing it on?

[Slowpoke]

are you there to witness every trade of this item? obviously not.

[Okeanos]

are you there to witness every trade of this item? obviously not.

it was stupid of you to state such an obvious thing

but there are hardly any, and as i have said basing a value on one sale is pointless and ruins the whole value system

so how many sales did you base this value on? 3? 2? 1? 0?

[AgnesIO]

Oken how many of these items do you have.

As it must be affecting you so much././././.

[Okeanos]

Oken how many of these items do you have.

As it must be affecting you so much././././.

huhhhhhh???????

why does it matter?

[AgnesIO]

well u must really care about these supers, which hardly anyone likes, to make a thead about it.

I would of thought its kinda pointless, since no one cares, about the ugly plants

[Slowpoke]

it was stupid of you to state such an obvious thing

but there are hardly any, and as i have said basing a value on one sale is pointless and ruins the whole value system

so how many sales did you base this value on? 3? 2? 1? 0?

there are 15 in circulation.

if there are around 20 and under in cirulation then the value will change everytime ONE of them is traded.

[AgnesIO]

there are 15 in circulation.

if there are around 20 and under in cirulation then the value will change everytime ONE of them is traded.

Absoulotely spot on, sadly this 'person' dosent seem to think this.

Whta milennia said is...

if-there-are-around-20-and-under-in-circulation-then-the-value-will-change-EVERYTIME-ONE-of-them-is-traded.

So if i was seen tradingh for for 1hc, there vaule would from then on till another one is traded...

1 HC

[Slowpoke]

thanks dom for helping clear that up :).

[AgnesIO]

No worries :)

+Rep

[luce]

What actually are they i have never seen one :)

[Flamedragon3]

What actually are they i have never seen one :)
They're this big moving plant (automatically moving all the time) and its a bit ugly/creepy. I have a strong feeling it will be released one Halloween/Habboween ;) If you want to see one, Papermoon has two in her Casino.

[PureQuest]

Why are these going down? i havent seen any sold for a while let alone sold for 2t 10 hc

Earlier they where 3t and i made a thread asking for 3t 10 because that is the lowest id sell it for (there aren't that many in the hotel)

But now its suddenly 2t 10, ridiculous...... this is just further evidence that value reporters make it up or else base there value on a single trade

A super is only worth what someone is willing to pay!

Remember sam?

[imban]

i can give proof of a staff askin me to give furni and change values
if u dont trust screenie ill hyper cam

[imban]

i can give proof of a staff askin me to give furni and change values
if u dont trust screenie ill hyper cam
bump cuz no one is replyin on it cuz they rigg values as seen i can give solid proof

[Tqm!]

I Really don't like them, they are ugly.

[imban]

wwe dont like ur face its ugly but we still gotta see..
So habbo veno has to bee seen and its about Riggin values
When a staff needs a blue bb they drop 1t
When he wants to sell its 2t

Edited by Immenseman (Forum Moderator): Please don't be rude to other members.

[Tqm!]

wwe dont like ur face its ugly but we still gotta see..
So habbo veno has to bee seen and its about Riggin values
When a staff needs a blue bb they drop 1t
When he wants to sell its 2t

I was saying what i thought don't get cocky coz u don't like it.

[imban]

Hit me Baby

Edited by Immenseman (Forum Moderator): Please stay on topic.

[GamerShoot3r]

Thats what i thought (But with a Grey Share Bear)
Theres only suppost to be a couple of hundred in the whole of the hotel.....
but its only selling for 5hc's
WTH?
think how many people there is in habbo....
thats quite alot compared to a couple of hundred
(sorry if this is kinda off topic)

[Tqm!]

Thats what i thought (But with a Grey Share Bear)
Theres only suppost to be a couple of hundred in the whole of the hotel.....
but its only selling for 5hc's
WTH?
think how many people there is in habbo....
thats quite alot compared to a couple of hundred
(sorry if this is kinda off topic)

Ye, I agree with that.

[GamerShoot3r]

Thanks...
its just plain dum if you ask me...
theres an Uber Rare And it's only worth a couple of hc...
stupid
LOL Im a geek i said uber *Snorts then laughs*
No offence just having a laugh
:P

[Rixion]

Share bears are most likely to be 5hc each because they are not demanded. Also now their are more Venomous in circulation and not really demanded, that is probably why they are not bought.

[Hiro]

Can't you people get into your heads that the item is only worth how much someone is willing to pay for it...
Seriously..

[Sulai]

I agree.

If Habbox put the Dino to 1t the whole hotel would sell them for 1t.
It's the way people work, people follow Habbox.

I've always agreed that supers should be based on a number of trades, not just one. I can gurantee some rare value reporters do make values up.
However the management will catch them out eventually.


the management also make values up.

[tom/]

My Army Plasto is only worth 1t - 20, yet there's less than 30 in circulation, it would be hard to get a value for it since you don't see hardly anybody selling them, if it was up to me it would be higher simply because
1) it won't get re-released as it isn't on the furni colour chart and 2) the number of them will keep getting lower and lower.
Yet someone must have reported seeing at least 5 army plastos getting traded....... i call tihsllub

[Flamedragon3]

the management also make values up.
Give me proof of the rubbish coming out of your mouth? :)

My Army Plasto is only worth 1t - 20, yet there's less than 30 in circulation, it would be hard to get a value for it since you don't see hardly anybody selling them, if it was up to me it would be higher simply because
1) it won't get re-released as it isn't on the furni colour chart and 2) the number of them will keep getting lower and lower.
Yet someone must have reported seeing at least 5 army plastos getting traded....... i call tihsllub
Re-released? Never been released, its just scripted so it can never be given out as it technically doesn't exist to habbo. Hardly traded because people like vampire!!! have lots of them. I think vampire!!! has 8 :P

[theman0001]

the management also make values up.

are you not the one making things up?

[Jinc]

If Habbox dropped the value of Thrones from 50T to 25T for a day, the price people buy and sell at would almost certainly drop.

No one can deny that Habbox has a strong influence on the economy in Habbo.

[Ichig0]

Give me proof of the rubbish coming out of your mouth? :)

Re-released? Never been released, its just scripted so it can never be given out as it technically doesn't exist to habbo. Hardly traded because people like vampire!!! have lots of them. I think vampire!!! has 8 :P

I have six more in my maze entrace, too.

[theman0001]

If Habbox dropped the value of Thrones from 50T to 25T for a day, the price people buy and sell at would almost certainly drop.

No one can deny that Habbox has a strong influence on the economy in Habbo.

i agree but how can 1T be worth 50T :P

[IRBlueMoon]

Give me proof of the rubbish coming out of your mouth? :)
Hiya, did you go Bolton to watch City?

[Jinc]

i agree but how can 1T be worth 50T :P


It was 2am :D I was tired

[Sulai]

Give me proof of the rubbish coming out of your mouth? :)

If you would like to find the old thread that was started regarding the sudden random drop in the holly wall you will find several indications immenseman made regarding why he changes values

in one of them it clearly said "The only reason i changed the value of the holly wall is because i felt it needed a change, i hadnt recieved any reports on it for
just over a month now"

Double post merged by jesus (Forum Super Moderator): Looks like forum lag caused this one!

[Immenseman]

If you would like to find the old thread that was started regarding the sudden random drop in the holly wall you will find several indications immenseman made regarding why he changes values

in one of them it clearly said "The only reason i changed the value of the holly wall is because i felt it needed a change, i hadnt recieved any reports on it for
just over a month now"

I think you will find I never said those words so there is no need to lower yourself to the depths of telling lies on a Habbo Forum. If it has such power over your life then you're forgiven :).

[PaulMacC]

the management also make values up.
If the mangemant makes up values explain to me how I am the poorest person in the Rare Values Department when I can easily acess the rare values panel?

[tom/]

If the mangemant makes up values explain to me how I am the poorest person in the Rare Values Department when I can easily acess the rare values panel?

He didn't say everyone is, im not going to make assumptions, but there is some shadyness in the rare values, the throne should be back down to 42, 50 hcs takes the biscuit, just to test if people follow habbox like the bible you should secretly change one of the values dramatically and see its effect around habbo. And another thing, change the super values to be just in hc sofas, the t value is unstable, and whenever t value goes down, the supers dont go up, its ****zy, just because 1 item goes down, it takes the value off of the WHOLE supers collection. sort it out

[Nain]

I agree.

If Habbox put the Dino to 1t the whole hotel would sell them for 1t.
It's the way people work, people follow Habbox.

I've always agreed that supers should be based on a number of trades, not just one. I can gurantee some rare value reporters do make values up.
However the management will catch them out eventually.

Not everyone follows habbox, there are other rare values in the world of habbo fansites, just not as succesful :)

and people make up prices themselves

[Immenseman]

So you want us to put the throne lower even though they're not trading for lower? You want us to ignore the genuine trading value on the Hotel?


He didn't say everyone is, im not going to make assumptions, but there is some shadyness in the rare values, the throne should be back down to 42, 50 hcs takes the biscuit, just to test if people follow habbox like the bible you should secretly change one of the values dramatically and see its effect around habbo. And another thing, change the super values to be just in hc sofas, the t value is unstable, and whenever t value goes down, the supers dont go up, its ****zy, just because 1 item goes down, it takes the value off of the WHOLE supers collection. sort it out

[tom/]

So you want us to put the throne lower even though they're not trading for lower? You want us to ignore the genuine trading value on the Hotel?
You didn't answer my other question that made more sense.


Anyway. Why not change the super values to be just in hc sofas, the t value is unstable, and whenever t value goes down, the supers dont go up, its ****zy, just because 1 item goes down, it takes the value off of the WHOLE supers collection. sort it out.