REPUTATION = Perfect solution.

[Cixso]

Ok.

This will end your excuse with you can't hire reputation editors because they need admincp access blablabla.

You can set usergroup permissions on who can edit the user's reputation. MEANING no admincp is needed.

Screenshots.

When a user click his/hers admin cp. (THIS CAN BE CONTROLLED BY USER PERMISSIONS. SO YOU COULD DO THIS FOR VIP MEMBERS.)

http://www.downloadbag.com/images/rep1.PNG

When a user clicks the archive button as shown above.

http://www.downloadbag.com/images/rep2.PNG

When somebody has permission, click on the "edit" besides the rep as shown above.

http://www.downloadbag.com/images/rep3.PNG

This is how you set the user group permissions.


http://www.downloadbag.com/images/rep4.PNG


I CAN'T REPLY AS I AM A CAUTIONED MEMBER.

Thought's? No edit of templates, works on V3.6 AND V3.7. Just a xml important and a few file uploads.

[jesus]

But there is no problem - we have a reputation editor.

[Elkaa]

I don't recall us ever having a problem with hireing Reputation Editors? Nick- does it.

[mat64]

There's nothing wrong with just having Nick- or any other administrator do the editing though in my opinion.

[Charlie]

Besides it takes about 5 years for them to get around to it.

[Pat McGroin]

I don't recall us ever having a problem with hireing Reputation Editors? Nick- does it.

It's the usual excuse for not hiring rep editors. It's like "They'd need admincp access and we have no trust at all in our staff so we can't do it" more or less.

[today]

There is a problem using this. Its not by default for us :)

[Catzsy]

Anybody think though whilst yes there are rep editors that Sarith has in fact come up with an ingenius idea that could be employed in some capacity? It would be great if staff and members weren't so dismissive when somebody is trying to be positive and helpful. Probably would not replace editors but
maybe useful in some other way?

[jesus]

Anybody think though whilst yes there are rep editors that Sarith has in fact come up with an ingenius idea that could be employed in some capacity? It would be great if staff and members weren't so dismissive when somebody is trying to be positive and helpful. Probably would not replace editors but
maybe useful in some other way?If Habbox implemented this it wouldn't be that bad, but Nick- would be even more bored than he already is when he comes on here and out of a job. :P

[warezkid3]

It also a safety risk, becasue it a hack.

[Catzsy]

If Habbox implemented this it wouldn't be that bad, but Nick- would be even more bored than he already is when he comes on here and out of a job. :P

LOL:) Nick is a very busy person in real life too but I wasn't thinking that - I was thinking we should thank a member for taking the trouble to post something which potentially could be a good idea whether it is feasible or not as opposed to dismissing him in one liners. It would have taken him a while to create.

[Pat McGroin]

It also a safety risk, becasue it a hack.
It'll be OK. It doesn't mess with many DB tables.

[warezkid3]

No, it's not. It's a feature in the new vB I think.

Well it wont happen for ages since MAD gotta test it all out and see if it stable, becasue the one that the thread starter is showing is in beta.

[jesus]

LOL:) Nick is a very busy person in real life too but I wasn't thinking that - I was thinking we should thank a member for taking the trouble to post something which potentially could be a good idea whether it is feasible or not as opposed to dismissing him in one liners. It would have taken him a while to create.I see what you mean. I think perhaps because he's a cautioned member people are automatically against him. :P

[GommeInc]

If Habbox implemented this it wouldn't be that bad, but Nick- would be even more bored than he already is when he comes on here and out of a job. :P
He can be given one of the manager jobs half of the AGMs seem to like collecting :P

[Catzsy]

I see what you mean. I think perhaps because he's a cautioned member people are automatically against him. :P

Well thats a bit unfair then don't you think? That's like pelting a man with an asbo with tomatoes. Surely the asbo was the penalty and he paid the price. :D

[Unpredictible.1]

Sarith said:


Just rode back 42 miles. says:
say it's a simple hack, and useful for when suers want to view all there reputation they eve recieved, maybe it could be a VIP feature
Just rode back 42 miles. says:
it is not a VB addon default, it's a hack

[warezkid3]

Told you it was a hack >_>

[today]

As said before no matter how big or small the hack, its still a risk.

It needs to be tested in so many ways for such a little addon, its not worth it.

[Lycan]

All a bit paranoid arn't you

I'd hope that the hack has been tested for secuirty flaws and passed.

and there have been quite a few problems with reputation editors over the years.. infact just before Nick- didn't we have a long time without one because they had disappeared from their job.

[warezkid3]

The hack will not be installed.

habbox doesnt allow hacks to be installed at all cost, even if it was the world most safetest hack

[jesus]

The hack will not be installed.

habbox doesnt allow hacks to be installed at all cost, even if it was the world most safetest hackLet's wait for management to post before saying things like that.

[Niall!]

Let's wait for management to post before saying things like that.


They've said it already many times.

[warezkid3]

They already do >_>

They do not allow it.

[jesus]

They've said it already many times.About this?

[Pat McGroin]

The hack will not be installed.

habbox doesnt allow hacks to be installed at all cost, even if it was the world most safetest hack

Are you really that thick? They've got the arcade installed and they've got Read PMs installed. The arcade is one of the worst hacks for security.

[Callum.]

people still go on about rep?

[warezkid3]

About this?
About the hacks.
It only needed if it really needed. Althrough i dont see the point,

N!ck job will be just abit easier. that all.

Would you make a job easier, but more risks?


Are you really that thick? They've got the arcade installed and they've got Read PMs installed. The arcade is one of the worst hacks for security.




Becasue the arcade is used by millions of forums, and i'm sure they patched every major risks.

The Read PM's,

i cant say anything abouut that, since i dont know how it is worked.

p.s, really need to insult, problems. thick enough to do it.

[Pat McGroin]

About the hacks.
It only needed if it really needed. Althrough i dont see the point,

N!ck job will be just abit easier. that all.

Would you make a job easier, but more risks?




Becasue the arcade is used by millions of forums, and i'm sure they patched every major risks.

The Read PM's,

i cant say anything abouut that, since i dont know how it is worked.

The way it works is that the admins read everyones "private" messages and then ban the users exposing them.

[Nick-]

A more insecure person would think you were trying to put me out of a job... ;)
I quite like the philosophy thats been adopted so far in this thread; if it isn't broke, don't fix it.


Besides it takes about 5 years for them to get around to it.

To get around to installing something new or editing reputation? Because if you checked the thread at all over the last 7 days you would see there has never been more than 6 posts reporting unfair reputation and it stays that way. The highest number of posts that that thread has gained was back when I was first offered the job (130 posts) and the week long unexpected absense I had to take for various reasons (40 posts~)


If Habbox implemented this it wouldn't be that bad, but Nick- would be even more bored than he already is when he comes on here and out of a job. :P

Theres always moderating to be done when I'm finished with reputation/VIP editing. ;)


He can be given one of the manager jobs half of the AGMs seem to like collecting :P

Because thats far more fun than what I'm doing now...
I wouldn't want a managerial position after the joy I've experienced with the reputation system. :8


The hack will not be installed.

habbox doesnt allow hacks to be installed at all cost, even if it was the world most safetest hack

Ultimately, this is the single problem that this change faces. Regardless of the level of testing carried out on a hack and no matter how clever it appears the hack will not be installed due to the potential holes in security created by it in the coding. I'm not entirely sure on the way hacks are installed because my job doesn't involve it at all, it would probably be best to ask Jin or scour through his old posts, I'm certain he's posted a detailed response to why hacks aren't installed. :)

[Mexel]

Yeah but Nick is.. crap lol. Might just be petty things but he just deletes your post without even giving you a reason why he is not editing your rep. I posted the same one three times and even stated it in the post how many times i had posted it and he still does not PM me lol.

[warezkid3]

The way it works is that the admins read everyones "private" messages and then ban the users exposing them.

i actully meant the way it works

as in, how do they check it, using admin cp ect.

becasue i do know you need "codes" to check them.

[Unpredictible.1]

A more insecure person would think you were trying to put me out of a job... ;)
I quite like the philosophy thats been adopted so far in this thread; if it isn't broke, don't fix it.



To get around to installing something new or editing reputation? Because if you checked the thread at all over the last 7 days you would see there has never been more than 6 posts reporting unfair reputation and it stays that way. The highest number of posts that that thread has gained was back when I was first offered the job (130 posts) and the week long unexpected absense I had to take for various reasons (40 posts~)



Theres always moderating to be done when I'm finished with reputation/VIP editing. ;)



Because thats far more fun than what I'm doing now...
I wouldn't want a managerial position after the joy I've experienced with the reputation system. :8



Ultimately, this is the single problem that this change faces. Regardless of the level of testing carried out on a hack and no matter how clever it appears the hack will not be installed due to the potential holes in security created by it in the coding. I'm not entirely sure on the way hacks are installed, it would probably be best to ask Jin or scour through his old posts, I'm certain he's posted a detailed response to why hacks aren't installed. :)
Sarith says:


Danny - DownloadBAG.com says:
It's not just about editjng reputation, it's about users also vieiwng there archive of there every single reputation they ever recieved.
- Danny - DownloadBAG.com says:
Maybe it could be part of the VIP.
- Danny - DownloadBAG.com says:
and say, if it get's rejected, at least I brought up an idea

[Nick-]

Yeah but Nick is.. crap lol. Might just be petty things but he just deletes your post without even giving you a reason why he is not editing your rep. I posted the same one three times and even stated it in the post how many times i had posted it and he still does not PM me lol.

If you actually took the time to read the first post in the thread you would see that it is your responsibility to PM me when your reputation is not removed. There is always a valid reason, in your case I believe it was because the two reputation comments you reported were over 30 days old and, as stated in the first post, only the last 30 days of reputation are ever checked.

The amount of reputation visible to any user was recently increased from 10 to 15, I can't think of a reason, other than for old times sake, that anyone would want to view reputation that is that old. :S Although it is an interesting little novelty hack to have installed I don't think its necessary at the moment.

[FlyingJesus]

It's not a bad idea at all, and it's been well planned out and presented, the problem with it is that it's just not needed at the moment - also, it would mean that ALL -rep could be deleted and not just the pointless stuff, so may as well disable -repping for the same effect.

[Mexel]

If you actually took the time to read the first post in the thread you would see that it is your responsibility to PM me when your reputation is not removed. There is always a valid reason, in your case I believe it was because the two reputation comments you reported were over 30 days old and, as stated in the first post, only the last 30 days of reputation are ever checked.

The amount of reputation visible to any user was recently increased from 10 to 15, I can't think of a reason, other than for old times sake, that anyone would want to view reputation that is that old. :S Although it is an interesting little novelty hack to have installed I don't think its necessary at the moment.

Okay i dont actually think your crap that just come out lol. The only thing that i diddnt understand was that i was not told about it or anything, but im over it now ;).
'The amount of reputation visible to any user was recently increased from 10 to 15'
What does that mean ;o? I am crap with these things.

[Nick-]

Okay i dont actually think your crap that just come out lol. The only thing that i diddnt understand was that i was not told about it or anything, but im over it now ;).
'The amount of reputation visible to any user was recently increased from 10 to 15'
What does that mean ;o? I am crap with these things.
In your UserCP, the number of reputation comments visible used to be 10, it was recently increased to 15. :)

[Mexel]

In your UserCP, the number of reputation comments visible used to be 10, it was recently increased to 15. :)

Ah i thought you meant we could view other peoples rep comments then lol.

Btw is there anyway of viewing like your really old rep comments? Like my first ever one or somthing

[Cixso]

Ah i thought you meant we could view other peoples rep comments then lol.

Btw is there anyway of viewing like your really old rep comments? Like my first ever one or somthing

That's what this hack enables you to do.

Can't edit.

But I thought I can't reply?

Anyways! It may also boost ViP sales?

Edited by Agesilaus (Forum Super Moderator): Merged. You should have been able to edit your last.

[Unpredictible.1]

That's what this hack enables you to do.

You can reply :S since when being cautioned.
oo

[warezkid3]

You can reply in your own thread, just to note :P

[Mexel]

That's what this hack enables you to do.
:O Install it lol!

Dont see why they shouldn't install it, im sure everyone would like to see it?

[nvrspk4]

I'm not even going to bother going into the insecurity of unecessary hacks, I'll just say this:

You do realize, that if we created a position specifically for a Rep Checker (what did you call it?) then they would also have the task of scouring the reps of members for pointless +reps as well.

Do you really want that?

[e5]

It would be alot easier if employer's didn't trust the person with ADMIN CP

[nvrspk4]

It would be alot easier if employer's didn't trust the person with ADMIN CP

I am completely confused. Say what homesloice?

[Jin]

Well thats a bit unfair then don't you think? That's like pelting a man with an asbo with tomatoes. Surely the asbo was the penalty and he paid the price. :D

I don't know but the thought of pelting a person with tomatoes sure is entertaining.

I would also be concerned about any members being able to indefinitely edit the reputation they have given, simply because harsh words could be exchanged and before an administrator can ban the user the message may be edited meaning we have no evidence.

If this were to be implemented it would be more than likely for our super moderators than anyone else. However, I don't understand whats wrong with our current system of posting in a thread and Nick- editing it?

[le harry]

I am completely confused. Say what homesloice?

omg its spelt homeslice u n00b!! :@:@:@

I think I translate it to be.. "It'd be a lot easier if management trusted more people with AdminCP", however that does sound.. ridiculous I guess since it's not something you can just throw around.

I dunno. :(

[execution]

Hope its used, tis really good find and works greata.

[Cixso]

You do realize, that if we created a position specifically for a Rep Checker (what did you call it?) then they would also have the task of scouring the reps of members for pointless +reps as well.

Do you really want that?

Sure. Doesn't bother me about the +reps. It's only fair anyway.


I don't know but the thought of pelting a person with tomatoes sure is entertaining.

I would also be concerned about any members being able to indefinitely edit the reputation they have given, simply because harsh words could be exchanged and before an administrator can ban the user the message may be edited meaning we have no evidence.

You can set permissions for this, so users may not edit there own. You can set it for say Reputation Editors to just do this. It will save a lot of time respectful to Nick.


If this were to be implemented it would be more than likely for our super moderators than anyone else. However, I don't understand whats wrong with our current system of posting in a thread and Nick- editing it?

Saves time, and saves pressure off nick too. Plus you can have more people helping out HabboxForum.

But it is not just about the editing though, it's about us members viewing our archive.

It takes 2 seconds to install. Nothing needs to be edited and I'll show you a demo if you wish on my own forum? So you can view the admin side of it and user side.

[joshuar]

By the screenshots I thought it came with 3.7.0, I thought vBulletin had finally done something cool. Clearly I was wrong :(

We have had a lot of bad experiences with hacks before, so we tend not to install them just so that the forum stays safe. Besides, Nick- does a fantastic job at doing reputation so I don't think there is any need for more Reputation Editors.

It is a good idea, but it's something I don't see happening because of the risks with hacks.

[Cixso]

By the screenshots I thought it came with 3.7.0, I thought vBulletin had finally done something cool. Clearly I was wrong :(

We have had a lot of bad experiences with hacks before, so we tend not to install them just so that the forum stays safe. Besides, Nick- does a fantastic job at doing reputation so I don't think there is any need for more Reputation Editors.

It is a good idea, but it's something I don't see happening because of the risks with hacks.

Everything is a risk and nothing will never not be at risk though?

Come on, I admit it my self it's unneeded but it's a cool hack for us members, to view our history of reputation received. Maybe a VIP feature?

View our history, out first ever rep sent and received.

[Nick-]

Ah i thought you meant we could view other peoples rep comments then lol.

Btw is there anyway of viewing like your really old rep comments? Like my first ever one or somthing

Lol, I can through the magic of AdminCP, in fact, one of the first things I did with the CP once promoted was to see what my very first reputation received/issued were out of sheer curiosity. :P
You could always PM me and ask, I don't see any reason as to why I can't tell you about your own reputation and its not exactly any hassle for me. :)


Can't edit.

But I thought I can't reply?

Anyways! It may also boost ViP sales?

That being potentially true, the risks and possible costs involved with installing a hack outweigh the potential gain


I'm not even going to bother going into the insecurity of unecessary hacks, I'll just say this:

You do realize, that if we created a position specifically for a Rep Checker (what did you call it?) then they would also have the task of scouring the reps of members for pointless +reps as well.

Do you really want that?

I prefer Reputation Editor :P
Its slightly more professional and shorter than the way Wayne described the job in his old usertitle (Reported Reputation Problem Solver)


You can set permissions for this, so users may not edit there own. You can set it for say Reputation Editors to just do this. It will save a lot of time respectful to Nick.

Saves time, and saves pressure off nick too. Plus you can have more people helping out HabboxForum.

But it is not just about the editing though, it's about us members viewing our archive.

Time is not exactly a factor when I check through reputation because its not the most time consuming part of my job and I have very little pressure to check through it unless I take some unexpected time off which inevitably causes a backlog. As long as I stay on top of the reported reputation, the reports don't build up and the overall task is easily manageable.
As I said to Mexel, I don't mind telling you about your own ancient reputation and I can't see any problem with it from a policy point of view. :)

[--ss--]

People will just abuse it and remove all their negative rep received, If they were to get hacked the hacker will probably delete all their rep points , People will abuse the comment editting.
Seeing as it's an Hack it will be an security risk.

Perfect solotution? I think not.

[Invent]

THIS IS A STUPID IDEA.

Sorry, just thought I'd get my point across quickly. Anyway, this is a stupid idea as it will ruin rep all together. Users can just remove ALL of their -rep and so easily get hundreds of rep points. Leave it to -Nick, he does a fine job as it is.

[Hitman]

If users can delete and edit rep then I'm against it... unless you mean staff can only do that.

[joshuar]

Just need to state that if it would come in, users would not be able to edit their own reputation, only administrators or whoever. That's a very big if by the way.

[Cixso]

People will just abuse it and remove all their negative rep received, If they were to get hacked the hacker will probably delete all their rep points , People will abuse the comment editting.
Seeing as it's an Hack it will be an security risk.

Perfect solotution? I think not.


THIS IS A STUPID IDEA.

Sorry, just thought I'd get my point across quickly. Anyway, this is a stupid idea as it will ruin rep all together. Users can just remove ALL of their -rep and so easily get hundreds of rep points. Leave it to -Nick, he does a fine job as it is.


If users can delete and edit rep then I'm against it... unless you mean staff can only do that.


Just need to state that if it would come in, users would not be able to edit their own reputation, only administrators or whoever. That's a very big if by the way.

Just to make it quick. (Tea is almost done)

USERS CAN NOT EDIT REPUTATION COMMENTS, USERS CAN NOT DELETE THERE REPUTATION COMMENTS OR ARCHIVES OR REPUTATION IT SELF.

:)

Only usergroups with permissions set by the admins.

I won't be too disappointed if it was not brought in but at least it's getting into consideration. Make it for just VIP or something?

[nvrspk4]

omg its spelt homeslice u n00b!! :@:@:@

I think I translate it to be.. "It'd be a lot easier if management trusted more people with AdminCP", however that does sound.. ridiculous I guess since it's not something you can just throw around.

I dunno. :(

I know I spell it that way because it sounds cooler in my head. Hohmshloyce. Something like that.

Yeah its not exactly something we can allow too many people to have.


Sure. Doesn't bother me about the +reps. It's only fair anyway.

As much as I respect you for having that opinion and not whining about it as others have, I think if we took a general poll it the opinion would go the other way.


Also with hacks, even if it requires no template editing *now* its possible that for future versions it may require template editing.