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Jordy
24-02-2008, 03:23 PM
On Friday, 2 killers where convicted of murdering people with DNA evidence connecting them to the crime.

First of all, Steve Wright the murderer of 5 prostitutes in Suffolk late-2006. DNA Fibre's from all 5 of the girl's where researched in the UKs DNA Database. Every person who has been arrested in recent year's is put on the database, all 5 DNA Fibre's matched Steve Wright's who was put on the database in 2003 for a minor pub robbery. They tracked him down very quickly and that's how they got justice.

Same happened in another case where someone 'Raped a dead body', the thread was in this section just recently.

DNA gives reliable and accurate information. So there's been idea's for everyone in the UK to be on the database, as they'd definitely cut down on more crimes, and quicker.

There's now a little 'debate' about should it go ahead. The difficulties with it are, everyone will feel like a suspect, it'll cost a lot, concerns of another government database being a bad thing knowing how well they handle data, it could be an infringement of Human Rights and ethnic group's might not allow it.

I personally think it would be a good step towards stopping crimes, and if Ethnic Group's aren't willing to give DNA, then they can GET THE HELL OUT or prove their religion's existence.

MissAlice
24-02-2008, 04:01 PM
I think if the DNA database is used solely for the correct purpose it's intended for, then I personally wouldn't have a problem with it. In fact I am in favour of the database, as it will help to prevent unsolved crimes in the future. This in turn will reduce the number of hours currently wasted by the policeforce, and may even reduce the number of murders committed by the offender, since they would be arrested sooner, and could be prevented from another similar crime.

So yeah I am in favour!

efq
24-02-2008, 04:57 PM
wow you can read minds.

DITTO

I think if the DNA database is used solely for the correct purpose it's intended for, then I personally wouldn't have a problem with it. In fact I am in favour of the database, as it will help to prevent unsolved crimes in the future. This in turn will reduce the number of hours currently wasted by the policeforce, and may even reduce the number of murders committed by the offender, since they would be arrested sooner, and could be prevented from another similar crime.

So yeah I am in favour!

-Xiangu-
24-02-2008, 05:05 PM
I voted yes as it's a good idea

Moh
24-02-2008, 05:08 PM
Well if there was, im pritty sure the government would find a way to put tax on it.

Swearwolf
24-02-2008, 05:12 PM
I appear to be the first person to say "no"

xxMATTGxx
24-02-2008, 05:16 PM
If the DNA database is used professionally then yes we should have it.

-:Undertaker:-
24-02-2008, 05:34 PM
No. My fingerprints and my DNA will be the last thing any government can take away from me. I will refuse point blank to give them it. This is another example of the socialist disease that is spreading through the UK and Europe. Also how can we trust Labour or any government with our information? Just take a look at the recent fiascos where peoples bank information has been lost. Once a passport/document is stolen at least it can be replaced. You can't replace DNA/fingerprints.

jrh2002
24-02-2008, 08:08 PM
If you commit a crime and they don't have your DNA but have a close relative on the database they will know it was somebody from their family and the closer the match the closer the relative and can almost identify you without a name.
I would imagine now they take DNA samples from new borns etc even thought it would never be admitted.

They say that if this info was available to insurance companies they could predict future illnesses etc and make you pay accordingly.

They will bring this in and probably make it a european wide scheme so the only way not to participate is by getting ready to jump the sinking ship.

The government does what the hell it likes whether we support it or not so dont expect to be able to stop it.

mangle
24-02-2008, 08:17 PM
I'd happily have it on , i have nothing to hide :)

Jordy
24-02-2008, 09:07 PM
The government hasn't actually said it wants one, it simply said it had no plans for one. It's more the Police force that wants one, and the Tories would simply like to see a debate.

The government has to start using database's and updating it's self with technologies, it's a long task but it has to be done, and they will have to learn to begin protecting them, I'm guessing soon they'll be calls for a law to be brought in and soon enough they'll be more ways to prevent the loss of data being lost, but nothings being done yet sadly.

I think this would prevent crime as well as catch the criminals. I don't agree with Insurance companies and third-parties accessing the data, it should be solely for the Police.

Frankly, if someone 'stole my DNA', what could they do with it? Can they even read or make any sense of it for starters? What really can they do with my DNA though?

Brody
24-02-2008, 09:11 PM
i voted no simply because i dont trust the goverment or the police because i could imagine there being a mix up with the dnas and then people would get away using dna evidence when really it could just be a fault in the system i would never want to put to much faith in technology

Antony
24-02-2008, 09:12 PM
I just think that it should be continued how it is today, if you commit crime then your picture, dna and fingerprints will be taken. In response to jordy's post I dont think your dna can be "stolen" it is all sent off to a specialist company and all of the data is inputted on the computers, i dont think they keep the salvia samples. The fingerprints are sent to america for analysing and then kept on our database.

-:Undertaker:-
24-02-2008, 09:26 PM
The government hasn't actually said it wants one, it simply said it had no plans for one. It's more the Police force that wants one, and the Tories would simply like to see a debate.

The government has to start using database's and updating it's self with technologies, it's a long task but it has to be done, and they will have to learn to begin protecting them, I'm guessing soon they'll be calls for a law to be brought in and soon enough they'll be more ways to prevent the loss of data being lost, but nothings being done yet sadly.

I think this would prevent crime as well as catch the criminals. I don't agree with Insurance companies and third-parties accessing the data, it should be solely for the Police.

Frankly, if someone 'stole my DNA', what could they do with it? Can they even read or make any sense of it for starters? What really can they do with my DNA though?

If everyone uses DNA for database and the information is leaked then your idendity has gone, it is useless. You cannot replace fingerprints or DNA. On the point of safety you can't keep anything safe nowadays and secondly you can NEVER trust politicians with information.

If they want my DNA/Fingerprints they'll have to use force.

Jordy
24-02-2008, 09:37 PM
But if someone stole my 'DNA' - What could they do with it? Your DNA can never be replaced I see, but it's hardly like it can be used for anything?

And hopefully by the time this would be ever be done, the many government's would of learnt to have secured data.

-:Undertaker:-
24-02-2008, 09:52 PM
But if someone stole my 'DNA' - What could they do with it? Your DNA can never be replaced I see, but it's hardly like it can be used for anything?

And hopefully by the time this would be ever be done, the many government's would of learnt to have secured data.

Bank details, personal details. There are many things and all it takes is for one mistake.

Florx
24-02-2008, 09:54 PM
NO WAY.

Im not having my DNA details floating about on the black market.

I really don't trust anybody having my personal details (especially the government or public sectors.)

They have lost LOADS of data so I don't think giving them more is a great idea....

Just my rant :p

jrh2002
24-02-2008, 09:58 PM
But if someone stole my 'DNA' - What could they do with it? Your DNA can never be replaced I see, but it's hardly like it can be used for anything?

And hopefully by the time this would be ever be done, the many government's would of learnt to have secured data.

DNA changes slightly over time and mutates a little depending on what illnesses and diseases you have and parts of the world you visit will have some small impact. I am sure with the advance of technology scientists will be able to re-create your dna in babies etc and may even find a way of changing a persons dna by a course of treatment? Could somebody swap their name with yours on the database so you would get the blame for anything they have done wrong? I dont trust what will be done with the information and what can be done with it now or in the future.

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