american marines kill a puppy

[United.Road]

US Marines investigating shocking 'puppy torture' video

The US military is under fire after a YouTube video has surfaced showing a Marine seemingly throwing a yelping puppy into an Iraqi gully.


The clip showed two Marines dressed in combat gear, one holding the young dog by the scruff of its neck.

The dog, which looks about eight weeks old, is motionless.

"Cute little puppy, huh?" one Marine can be heard saying.

"Oh so cute, so cute little puppy," the other responds in a child-like voice.

The Marine holding the dog then turns and throws it into the valley. The animal can be heard yelping until it hits the ground.

A spokesman for the American military condemned the video as "shocking and deplorable" and said an investigation was underway into the incident.

Marine spokesman Major Chris Perrine said the culprit was believed to be based in Hawaii.

The soldiers appear to be Hawaiian and the Marine Corps Oahu base issued a statement saying the "video is shocking and deplorable and is contrary to the high standards the Marine Corps expects of every Marine".

"The Marine Corps does not tolerate this type of behaviour and will take appropriate action," Marine Corps spokesman Major Chris Perrine said.

"The vast majority of Marines conduct themselves in an honourable manner that brings great credit upon the Marine Corps and the United States.

"There have been numerous stories of Marines adopting pets and bringing them home from Iraq or helping to arrange life-saving medical care for Iraqi children.

"These are the stories that exemplify what the Marine Corps stands for and how most Marines behave."

However a number of major US websites speculate the video is a fake, albeit a sick one, and the video has now been removed from YouTube.

Edited by ---MAD--- (General Manager): Video links not appropriate therefore have been removed :).

[Slowpoke]

yeah and those links have already been removed once from HxF once, you didn't have to post them again.

[United.Road]

dont lie please

[Dan2nd]

oh my god thats really bad...

[Thetan]

Because a puppy is more important then thousands of humans lost :rolleyes:.

[Slowpoke]

Because a puppy is more important then thousands of humans lost :rolleyes:.

it's not the point. there is no excuse for what that marine did.

[Moh]

Because a puppy is more important then thousands of humans lost :rolleyes:.
The war isn't against Humans and Dogs though. The reason its important is because no one who wasn't sick in the head would do that that. So I guess war does **** peoples heads up.

[Slowpoke]

The war isn't against Humans and Dogs though. The reason its important is because no one who wasn't sick in the head would do that that. So I guess war does **** peoples heads up.

No, they use that as an excuse. They were most likely brought up like that.

[Nemo]

Because a puppy is more important then thousands of humans lost :rolleyes:.
a human can defend themself, that was a tiny defenseless puppy. yep thats the same thing isnt it?

[bo$$]

yeah and those links have already been removed once from HxF once, you didn't have to post them again.
He did anyways in case nobody saw the videos :rolleyes:

No, they use that as an excuse. They were most likely brought up like that.
So you're saying that some people being forced to murder other people and possibly kill innocent women and children, doesn't **** you up?

[Slowpoke]

He did anyways in case nobody saw the videos :rolleyes:

So you're saying that some people being forced to murder other people and possibly kill innocent women and children, doesn't **** you up?

Marines don't kill innocent women and children :).

[bo$$]

Marines don't kill innocent women and children :).

Fine, take out the innocent women and children.

[Thetan]

What I mean, is they are killing lots of civilians, and that doesnt make the news. But a puppy does?

[Slowpoke]

Well if they can't handle it then they shouldn't join the Army. SIMPLE AS THAT.

It does though Thetan it's on the news almost every day.

[Thetan]

Actually, it hardly makes the news. They are killing innocent people, but the military brings up an investigation for a puppy.
Its sick, and it angers me as much as you, but I think a human life is more important.

[Slowpoke]

It does make the news. I remember not to long ago where American Soldiers were shown torturing Iraq civilians and loads of them were brought home then arrested for abuse of power.

[Dan2nd]

Cilviliens can run they can get to safety that puppy was effectivly sentenced to death it'd be like holding a group of people tieing them up and shooting them

[Firehorse]

Shouldn't really have posted this again but I think it is so mean! A giant should go pick that soldier up and throw him like he threw the dog! Then he'll have more sympathy.

[Slowpoke]

Cilviliens can run they can get to safety that puppy was effectivly sentenced to death it'd be like holding a group of people tieing them up and shooting them

Yeah and in the other video the dog can't walk yet they throw rocks at it.

[bo$$]

What I mean, is they are killing lots of civilians, and that doesnt make the news. But a puppy does?
No because in the army you know what you're signing up for and it's like they are defending and crap and the government and such dont see it as such a bad thing. In the countries that the people originally come from, you do hear about it though. Like if 10 Canadian Soldiers die, I'll most likely hear about it on the news.


Well if they can't handle it then they shouldn't join the Army. SIMPLE AS THAT.

It does though Thetan it's on the news almost every day.
Some people are forced to join so they don't really have a choice. They knew what they were getting into (If they chose it) but that doesn't change the fact that they havent actually experienced all of the killing and don't know how it will change them...


Actually, it hardly makes the news. They are killing innocent people, but the military brings up an investigation for a puppy.
Its sick, but it angers me that lots of civilians are being killed. But a puppy being killed gets an investigation?
Should I quote Milennia and say "they dont kill innocent women and children" or should I just stay with my original point?

Anyways, the puppy cant defend itself and didn't sign up to get thrown over a cliff.

[Slowpoke]

Thetan you sound as if you are defending the soldiers. There is absolutey no justification for what those soldiers did to that puppy!

[Thetan]

But they do kill innocent people. They arent supposed to, but it still happens. I know where your getting at, and the puppy was defenceless. But a civilian is just as defenceless against a guy with a gun.


EDIT: And if you understand what I am getting at, you will see I am far from defending them

[Slowpoke]

I know what you mean it's just the way you were saying it earlier on.

[Dan2nd]

But they do kill innocent people. They arent supposed to, but it still happens. I know where your getting at, and the puppy was defenceless. But a civilian is just as defenceless against a guy with a gun.


EDIT: And if you understand what I am getting at, you will see I am far from defending them

I see what you're saying but still a civilien can flee they can hide they can even leave the town/city the fighting is happening in

[Slowpoke]

And a puppy with three legs can't get very far (second video).

[Nixt]

He did anyways in case nobody saw the videos :rolleyes:

So you're saying that some people being forced to murder other people and possibly kill innocent women and children, doesn't **** you up?

If you join the army you need to be prepared to kill, or be killed. The Marines are a particularly elite part of the US Army and should be very much prepared to deal with the everyday impact of war.


Actually, it hardly makes the news. They are killing innocent people, but the military brings up an investigation for a puppy.
Its sick, and it angers me as much as you, but I think a human life is more important.

They don't kill innocent people intentionally (except in a very tiny minority of cases). The deaths of innocent civilians are 99.9% of the time totally accidental mainly due to the dropping of bombs or a misfired mortar or something. Soldiers don't just walk up to innocent Civilians in Middle-Eastern countries and shoot them at point blank range :rolleyes:

[Misawa]

I'm pretty sure the dog is already dead; the sound effects are dubbed in.

[Jordy]

Is there a shortage of decent news to post? I know it's all very sad and cute and everything, but really, this is hardly news... Marines are happy to kill rabbits & chickens in the army, but because everyone is mad on dogs they get all the attention?

Sorry but I couldn't really gives two *****, when there's a day with 'no news' I'd consider this news. Btw I'm not having a go at the thread beginner, just in general with it being in the news.

[Nixt]

I'm guessing because they would only kill chickens and things for food, whereas this was apparently done just for sick pleasure. There is quite an obvious and big difference there...

[Slowpoke]

I'm pretty sure the dog is already dead; the sound effects are dubbed in.

If they did that to a dead dog it is even worse in my opinion! The ammount of disrespect shown if it is dead is just.. well it's sickening :@! They should let the poor thing RIP.

[Hitman]

I'm pretty sure the dog is already dead; the sound effects are dubbed in.Many people are now thinking this; the dogs limbs aren't moving and the whining doesn't fade away, so people think the dog was already dead... I hope it was, as what they did was so crule.

[Dan2nd]

even if it was dead that still isn't a nice thing to do to it's body.. =[

[-Xiangu-]

Sad I suppose.

On the matter of innoncent people getting killed, it's a war ridden country. Any way will most likely equal to civillians dieing.

[-:Undertaker:-]

a human can defend themself, that was a tiny defenseless puppy. yep thats the same thing isnt it?

Yeah the innocent nation of Iraq mostly weaponless could defend itself from the world's superpower.

[Misawa]

If they did that to a dead dog it is even worse in my opinion! The ammount of disrespect shown if it is dead is just.. well it's sickening :@! They should let the poor thing RIP.

Yeah, but I'd much rather it be dead than having to go through being thrown through the air.

[Hitman]

If they did that to a dead dog it is even worse in my opinion! The ammount of disrespect shown if it is dead is just.. well it's sickening :@! They should let the poor thing RIP.Yes but at least it wouldn't have to endure flying through the sky and hitting the ground below.

[Ezzie.]

It's sick tbh...

Should never torture animals like that

[Thetan]

It shows how unprofessional some of the marines are. Alot of them probably just joined so they could use guns, and kill things. But respect still has to be shown to the rest of the marines, that are trying to help.

And my first post made it look like I dont care about animal cruelty, so I apologize for that.

[Virgin Mary]

Wow, they do something mcdonalds does everyday to thousands of animals and it's the worse thing since 9/11

[Nemo]

Wow, they do something mcdonalds does everyday to thousands of animals and it's the worse thing since 9/11
Wow, you cant see things that way. That's like saying "Oh it doesnt matter that your whole family got murdered and the person was never found coz 9/11 was worse". That is a stupid way to think.

[Ezzie.]

Lol nemo... he/she's meaning that animals are slaughtered everyday, in some countries- quite barbaricly, but when people see a cute animal being barbaricly killed they go awwwwww

just noting the hypocrisy is all ;)

[GommeInc]

What I mean, is they are killing lots of civilians, and that doesnt make the news. But a puppy does?
Because it's expected. This sort behaviour is unexpected from a marine.

[Nemo]

Lol nemo... he/she's meaning that animals are slaughtered everyday, in some countries- quite barbaricly, but when people see a cute animal being barbaricly killed they go awwwwww

just noting the hypocrisy is all ;)So be sad about that? There is no reason to belittle(sp?) 1 killing just because there is 1000s everyday.

[GommeInc]

So be sad about that? There is no reason to belittle(sp?) 1 killing just because there is 1000s everyday.
Also note that the dog was killed for fun, not for food :rolleyes:

[Corporal]

The war isn't against Humans and Dogs though. The reason its important is because no one who wasn't sick in the head would do that that. So I guess war does **** peoples heads up.
there isnt a war.

[Slowpoke]

there isnt a war.

it was in iraq.

[Virgin Mary]

Right, torturing animals is okay as long as it's for food. Perhaps they killed it to eat it.

[Pyroka]

It's sickening, just get that straight, ok? There's no need for killing puppies, theyre mans best friend for gods sake.

[Slowpoke]

Right, torturing animals is okay as long as it's for food. Perhaps they killed it to eat it.

No it's not. Nothing deserves to be tortured.

[Virgin Mary]

No it's not. Nothing deserves to be tortured.
So why are virtually all fast food chains allowed to?

[Ezzie.]

So why are virtually all fast food chains allowed to?

DUN U ZEE, U GET NO PWOTEEN WIVOUT CHIKEN

Edited by Hitman (Forum Moderator): Please don't post pointlessly.

[GhostFace-]

just a puppy ''/?

[Virgin Mary]

DUN U ZEE, U GET NO PWOTEEN WIVOUT CHIKEN
Fine, we can just use meat people's arguments: Animals have no feelings and are incapable of comprehending pain. =)

[Ezzie.]

Fine, we can just use meat people's arguments: Animals have no feelings and are incapable of comprehending pain. =)


and they're all here for our sole purpose remember! ;)

Just wanted to get the idiotic statements before someone else started putting them in :)

[Slowpoke]

So why are virtually all fast food chains allowed to?

It doesn't mean it's right :@!

[Virgin Mary]

It doesn't mean it's right :@!
Yes it does, had that puppy not died people may have starved!!!!

[GommeInc]

Blerrgh, fast food meat is discusting. I much rather prefer fresh, free range meat which wasn't cooked so badly that it gives anyone a chance of getting food poisoning.

[Ezzie.]

Blerrgh, fast food meat is discusting. I much rather prefer fresh, free range meat which wasn't cooked so badly that it gives anyone a chance of getting food poisoning.


Well one bonus.

Most chavs eat fast food meat

/woo

[GommeInc]

Well one bonus.

Most chavs eat fast food meat

/woo
I would say 'shame it doesn't kill them,' but the pain they'll go through is all the more better :P

[Misawa]

I would say 'shame it doesn't kill them,' but the pain they'll go through is all the more better :P

Crucify them all.

[Corporal]

it was in iraq.
We're not at war with Iraq.

[GommeInc]

We're not at war with Iraq.
In what way do you come to that conclusion? We're not at war with the whole of Iraq, but I believe we're fighting an 'enemy' which is apart of Iraq that is trying to cause conflict for their party and the other party, which is defined as war.

[FlyingJesus]

It's a dog..

[CrazyColaist]

Good :@ hope they get hanged.

[Jordy]

Good :@ hope they get hanged.You want a country's military servicemen to die because they chucked a dead dog off a cliff? Now now, what's more important? Dog or man..?

You have serious issue's if you think that, two wrongs don't make a right btw ;)

[Prick]

Anyone realize in the video you can make out that the dog does about 20 back flips?

Not being mean but just saying.

And yeah thats awful

[Corporal]

In what way do you come to that conclusion? We're not at war with the whole of Iraq, but I believe we're fighting an 'enemy' which is apart of Iraq that is trying to cause conflict for their party and the other party, which is defined as war.
We're not officly at war with iraq

[Virgin Mary]

People only react because it's a dog and in western culture people are made to believe dogs are "man's best friend". You don't see them in the news because they make scorpions, lizards, camel spiders and rats fight.

[Nemo]

You want a country's military servicemen to die because they chucked a dead dog off a cliff? Now now, what's more important? Dog or man..?

You have serious issue's if you think that, two wrongs don't make a right btw ;)
You have serious issues also if you think that is ok. Those are the type which will probaly go on and kill innocent civilians and give the USA/UK a bad name.

So think about it? If they are cruel enough to do that, what's stopping them from doing it to a person?

[FlyingJesus]

People only react because it's a dog and in western culture people are made to believe dogs are "man's best friend". You don't see them in the news because they make scorpions, lizards, camel spiders and rats fight.

Exactly, it's a sick culture where we care more about pets than humans.

[Jordy]

You have serious issues also if you think that is ok. Those are the type which will probaly go on and kill innocent civilians and give the USA/UK a bad name.

So think about it? If they are cruel enough to do that, what's stopping them from doing it to a person?Soldier's have no say in if they go to war at all, they do what they're told or are sent to jail, it's what they agree to when they sign up.

A British Military Doctor refused to go to Iraq as he didn't agree with the war, he got put in jail for 4 years. They don't get any say, they're there risking their lives for the country, if they're told to kill what you call and may well be 'Innocent civilians' then they must do it. Blame the politicians...

[Nemo]

Soldier's have no say in if they go to war at all, they do what they're told or are sent to jail, it's what they agree to when they sign up.

A British Military Doctor refused to go to Iraq as he didn't agree with the war, he got put in jail for 4 years. They don't get any say, they're there risking their lives for the country, if they're told to kill what you call and may well be 'Innocent civilians' then they must do it. Blame the politicians...
They do have a choice, they know there will be wars when they SIGN up, so technically they do have a choice

[Jordy]

They do have a choice, they know there will be wars when they SIGN up, so technically they do have a choiceAre you trying to say no one should be in the army then encase they have to kill innocent people? Pretty selfish considering these troops are risking their lives & if we didn't have any army, our little island would be nothing.

[Abzii]

That's discusting
They have no excuse for behaving like that!

[Nereo]

Thts sick
I luv dogs:@

Unfair