View Full Version : Clinton the 'comeback kid'
-:Undertaker:-
05-03-2008, 04:23 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7276305.stm
She's won Texas, Ohio and Rhode Island and Obama only won Vermont. This means she and Obama will have to battle it out in the below.
8 March: Wyoming caucus, 12 pledged delegates
11 March: Mississippi primary, 33 pledged delegates
22 April: Pennsylvania primary, 158 pledged delegates
6 May: Indiana primary, 72 delegates; North Carolina primary, 115 pledged delegates
Dan2nd
05-03-2008, 04:40 PM
I hope Obama wins :( I don't know why but Hilary Clintons smile freaks me out
Jamesy
05-03-2008, 04:44 PM
Hilary changed her act so many times just to get the votes. Obama seems the only one to say consistant.
Mr.Sam
05-03-2008, 04:59 PM
The media is calling Hillary the winner in Texas, when in fact she is only the winner in the texas primary. When the texas caucus has been fully counted, in fact Obama will be the likely winner.
"I wasn't sure that you were right, so I did the math and she only won the primary by 51% so she's only going to have 64 delegates to his 62 in the primary. His 52% in the caucus as it stands now gives him 35 delegates to her 32 delegates which puts him in the lead overall by one delegate (97-96). This ~50-50 split is actually huge since Ohio and Texas were her firewalls where she hoped to regain a significant portion of his 156 pledged delegate lead and instead of gaining 50 to 60 delegates she only made up 16 delegates by my count."
Ezzie.
05-03-2008, 05:25 PM
I really hope Obama wins.. clinton seems so damn fake..
HeartRates
05-03-2008, 05:31 PM
they both seem dodgy to me.
i can see a nuclear war :rolleyes_
jesus
05-03-2008, 05:42 PM
Obama ftw, Clinton really annoys me. :(
-:Undertaker:-
05-03-2008, 05:54 PM
I like Clinton, she reminds me of Magaret Thatcher in a character way. I just think Obama is a man of no substance as all he says is change, what change?
Ezzie.
05-03-2008, 05:59 PM
Thatcher... ugh.
Mr.Sam
05-03-2008, 06:00 PM
on the subject of Americas next president.
it'll either be:
the oldest president, the first female or the first black.
I hope Obama wins
Ezzie.
05-03-2008, 06:03 PM
on the subject of Americas next president.
it'll either be:
the oldest president, the first female or the first black.
I hope Obama wins
/cheer /hug
Jordy
05-03-2008, 06:33 PM
Obama has no substance and is only there for one thing (No prizes to guess what). I personally don't agree with Clinton's policies, she's not a lot different from Bush in reality despite being the opposition.
McCain I just don't agree with his politics :P
GhostFace-
05-03-2008, 06:35 PM
lol the advert ^ was of hillary vs Obama
lol
obama ftw.
mangle
05-03-2008, 10:08 PM
I want Obama to win , Clinton just seems to get on my nerves when she talks , she doesn't convey confidence to me.
FlyingJesus
05-03-2008, 10:36 PM
Because I can't be bothered to look myself, how is McCain doing?
Mr.Sam
05-03-2008, 10:37 PM
He won and will run.
Because I can't be bothered to look myself, how is McCain doing?
FlyingJesus
05-03-2008, 10:40 PM
I'm hoping he wins, simply because I like chips
Pyroka
06-03-2008, 01:11 AM
Obama best win, it's the 21st century and the last thing the americans need is a ***** like her to run a country.
RedStratocas
06-03-2008, 02:49 AM
I like Clinton, she reminds me of Magaret Thatcher in a character way. I just think Obama is a man of no substance as all he says is change, what change?
dude, clinton talks about "change" all the time. all the candidates talk about change. if you talked about how things should stay the same, you'd lose.
i dont think clinton is bad or anything, but i honestly cant vote for someone for the war. at least obama never supported it, which was actually rare in the beginning. not to mention if she wins, that means the same two families have been running the executive branch for (at least) 24 years. sweet, eh? there's a good change about barack; he's not the same damn people.
Ezzie.
06-03-2008, 09:29 AM
dude, clinton talks about "change" all the time. all the candidates talk about change. if you talked about how things should stay the same, you'd lose.
i dont think clinton is bad or anything, but i honestly cant vote for someone for the war. at least obama never supported it, which was actually rare in the beginning. not to mention if she wins, that means the same two families have been running the executive branch for (at least) 24 years. sweet, eh? there's a good change about barack; he's not the same damn people.
This^
You win a cookie:eusa_clap
-:Undertaker:-
06-03-2008, 07:30 PM
Thatcher... ugh.
Thatcher sorted this country out.
dude, clinton talks about "change" all the time. all the candidates talk about change. if you talked about how things should stay the same, you'd lose.
i dont think clinton is bad or anything, but i honestly cant vote for someone for the war. at least obama never supported it, which was actually rare in the beginning. not to mention if she wins, that means the same two families have been running the executive branch for (at least) 24 years. sweet, eh? there's a good change about barack; he's not the same damn people.
I don't want things to stay the same, it's just he seems to empty and is trying to impersonate MLK.
Frodo13.
06-03-2008, 07:32 PM
I think Clinton should win. She has won all of the major states...Obama has won none. Clinton has alot more experiance, and her policies have alot more substance then Obama.
Obama exploits his race for votes, proved by his victories in the states with a high black community. And because he is young, and also attempted to glamourise drug use, he has also picked up many young supporters. All this JFK/MLK crap about Obama really makes me laugh. If anything, if he is the next president the racial gap in America will just get worse.
Hopefully Clinton will close the gap further in Pennsylvania, which it looks like she will do.
Mr.Sam
08-03-2008, 12:53 PM
Obama has won texas.
Texas Two-Step Leaving Dems Flat-Footed
The Clinton campaign may go to court. The Obama campaign wants to take its delegates and get out of town before sundown. The Texas Two-Step is overheating an already fired up Democratic presidential contest.
The Newsblog mentioned this on Wednesday but there is a very good chance that winning the Texas primary might not mean that Sen. Hillary Clinton gets to take away the most delegates. That because after the primary -- which she won 51-47 percent -- come the caucuses and it looks like Sen. Barack Obama may win those.
http://www.npr.org/blogs/news/2008/03/texas_twostep_leaving_dems_fla_1.html
RedStratocas
08-03-2008, 01:40 PM
Obama exploits his race for votes
anyone who says this completely idiotic statement that frodo here has said, knows nothing about ANYTHING.
obama has said ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about his race unless SPECIFICALLY asked about it, and even then he tries to get off the subject as best he can. one thing that people on all spans of the political spectrum, democrats and conservatives alike, love about obama is that he hasn't ONCE used his race in his campaign.
proved by his victories in the states with a high black community.
so what? do you have a brain? its common knowledge that a minority racial group generally votes for a specific candidate. but then again, you don't have common knowledge.
Clinton has alot more experiance
"experiance" (i think you mean "experience") means nothing. abraham lincoln, long considered the greatest president in united states history, was only senator for two years before he became president.
i'd try losing your disgusting arrogance and try to learn a few things about, i dont know, anything.
I don't want things to stay the same, it's just he seems to empty and is trying to impersonate MLK.
so anyone who says they want change is impersonating mlk? or are you saying he can't say change because he's black and it makes him look that way? i get where you're coming from, but he talks about change just as much as any of the candidates.
Frodo13.
08-03-2008, 02:04 PM
anyone who says this completely idiotic statement that frodo here has said, knows nothing about ANYTHING.
obama has said ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about his race unless SPECIFICALLY asked about it, and even then he tries to get off the subject as best he can. one thing that people on all spans of the political spectrum, democrats and conservatives alike, love about obama is that he hasn't ONCE used his race in his campaign.
so what? do you have a brain? its common knowledge that a minority racial group generally votes for a specific candidate. but then again, you don't have common knowledge.
"experiance" (i think you mean "experience") means nothing. abraham lincoln, long considered the greatest president in united states history, was only senator for two years before he became president.
i'd try losing your disgusting arrogance and try to learn a few things about, i dont know, anything.
so anyone who says they want change is impersonating mlk? or are you saying he can't say change because he's black and it makes him look that way? i get where you're coming from, but he talks about change just as much as any of the candidates.
Don't be so god damm rude! Nobody has the right to talk to me like that. Sure you have your view, but your idiotic insults prove you can't have a proper debate without reverting to insults. Pathectic really :rolleyes:
FlyingJesus
08-03-2008, 07:01 PM
Actually it's nothing to do with opinion - Obama hasn't used his race to get votes and experience isn't always the best teller. So yeah, that's not a debate issue and your point is void.
-:Undertaker:-
08-03-2008, 08:08 PM
so anyone who says they want change is impersonating mlk? or are you saying he can't say change because he's black and it makes him look that way? i get where you're coming from, but he talks about change just as much as any of the candidates.
No. It is the way he says it, I just think he's trying to hard to be like MLK.
Frodo13.
08-03-2008, 10:27 PM
No. It is the way he says it, I just think he's trying to hard to be like MLK.
For once, I agree with you. If he wasn't trying hard to be like MLK, people wouldn't be saying that is what he is like.
RedStratocas
09-03-2008, 05:35 AM
Don't be so god damm rude! Nobody has the right to talk to me like that. Sure you have your view, but your idiotic insults prove you can't have a proper debate without reverting to insults. Pathectic really :rolleyes:
im sorry, but if you make some grand assumption with NO BASIS such as that, it calls for something a bit more than "excuse me, i disagree."
For once, I agree with you. If he wasn't trying hard to be like MLK, people wouldn't be saying that is what he is like.
the media has been saying that it's what he's like, not him. they exaggerate almost everything.
for example, your candidate hillary; a while back she got a little bit emotional during a questionnaire at a rally. the media jumped on it saying she way crying her eyes out. looking back at the video, it was really nothing. she just had a little bit of an emotional recollection about the hardships of the race, which is understandable. but all the news could talk about was how she faked her tears to get last minute votes from women, which is completely untrue. that's in defense of hillary by the way.
unfortunately, being a black and charasmatic politician is still quite unheard of in the united states, so those very simple attributes have left him open to mlk comparisons, no matter how much they don't truly fit him otherwise. but he never, ever, ever exploits it.
le harry
09-03-2008, 06:37 AM
i support whoever wins..........
Nereo
14-03-2008, 08:56 PM
I reckon Obama will still win
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