Hang on a minute.

[Pyroka]

Lock this thread too if you want, it'll only make this thread very ironic.

You say that the 'Catzsy' thread I made, was not Feedback & had to be locked. Now, if you don't call that feedback then whatever do you call the 'Well done' and 'Congratulations' threads to members of this forum who are newly staff? Shouldn't they be locked too, since they can be PM'd themselves, and it's not feedback? I can see why Catzsy probably resigned from the Council now, especially if you (---MAD---) have any involvement in it. That council is more like the media of Russia, which is controlled by the government to do what they say & release what they want the public to hear.

Here's some feedback for you though, just to make this thread a bit more 'feedbacky': You've got double standards & only like enforcing certain rules when they may be discriminating/involving higher management with the retirement of a staff member. Ironic, that.

In Ben Kenobi's words: If you strike me down, I will only become stronger than you.

In my words: Lock this thread, and you only enforce the double standards I'm complaining about. Let your Moderators do the Moderating, not yourself.

[today]

Lock this thread too if you want, it'll only make this thread very ironic.

You say that the 'Catzsy' thread I made, was not Feedback & had to be locked. Now, if you don't call that feedback then whatever do you call the 'Well done' and 'Congratulations' threads to members of this forum who are newly staff? Shouldn't they be locked too, since they can be PM'd themselves, and it's not feedback?

Here's some feedback for you: You've got double standards. :)
it was locked? o.O

Oh yeah i understand why though considering its alike "bans" i guess its down to Catszy to publicly tell anyone if wanted or no one.

[Pyroka]

Yep, it's locked right now. I have the right mind to unlock it since MAD has no right to lock my thread when he's ignorant upon the other many threads which are on the topic of threads like Catzsy's. Same with Congratulations threads...

[today]

Yep, it's locked right now. I have the right mind to unlock it since MAD has no right to lock my thread when he's ignorant upon the other many threads which are on the topic of threads like Catzsy's. Same with Congratulations threads...
That would just make matters worse and you know it. :)

[Pyroka]

Mhmm, I know it would make matters worse which is why I'm sitting tight until ---MAD--- comes out with a explanation & that means MAD and only MAD, not one of his AGM's. He's the guy who thinks he's a Moderator as well as a General Manager, so lets see if he can back this up. He has the time to lock threads which don't need locking, so I'm sure he could spare the minute to explain how his 'Moderation style' is reasonable & fair.

Personally, I think MAD should be a Super Moderator anyway... He's better at that than being a (manipulative) General Manager.

[today]

Mhmm, I know it would make matters worse which is why I'm sitting tight until ---MAD--- comes out with a explanation & that means MAD and only MAD, not one of his AGM's. He's the guy who thinks he's a Moderator as well as a General Manager, so lets see if he can back this up. He has the time to lock threads which don't need locking, so I'm sure he could spare the minute to explain how his 'Moderation style' is reasonable & fair.

Personally, I think MAD should be a Super Moderator anyway... He's better at that than being a (manipulative) General Manager.
MAD does his bit of moderation within the Feedback forums.

[Pyroka]

MAD does his bit of moderation within the Feedback forums.

Then he can do his bit of explaining how only certain threads can be locked which, more or less, relate to the same topic. I bet this is one of the reasons Catzsy resigned to be honest with you. Not so much the Moderation, but the way MAD has an iron fist over everyone and only decides to use it when a thread about a resignation (for example), which probably has more to it than whats been said, is wrong.

[---MAD---]

Yep, it's locked right now. I have the right mind to unlock it since MAD has no right to lock my thread when he's ignorant upon the other many threads which are on the topic of threads like Catzsy's. Same with Congratulations threads...
Please read the Terms and conditions found here (which you agreed to upon registering): http://www.habboxforum.com/faq.php?faq=rules_main

First point says:
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[Pyroka]

Please read the Terms and conditions found here (which you agreed to upon registering): http://www.habboxforum.com/faq.php?faq=rules_main

First point says:
- We can (WITHOUT ANY PRIOR NOTICE) edit, close/lock, move, duplicated or publish any of your posted content because as soon as it is posted, you are the author of the content, but it becomes property of Habbox UK Forum.

I was waiting for that one. Well, that was a low blow to deal but nevertheless a valid one. That's surely the first time I've seen someone use the T&Cs as a backbone to their actions...

[---MAD---]

I was waiting for that one. Well, that was a low blow to deal but nevertheless a valid one. That's surely the first time I've seen someone use the T&Cs as a backbone to their actions...
Because it was one of the first times someone said we have no right to do so and so when the TC clearly says we do ;).

[Pyroka]

Because it was one of the first times someone said we have no right to do so and so when the TC clearly says we do ;).

I doubt that was the first time. This forums been around long enough to have lightning strike the same place. Abide by T&Cs... God, this is becoming more and more like Sulake by the day.

[Nick.]

Because it was one of the first times someone said we have no right to do so and so when the TC clearly says we do ;).


What are your reasons for closing his previous thread? I miss the old Habbox Forum.

[---MAD---]

I doubt that was the first time. This forums been around long enough to have lightning strike the same place. Abide by T&Cs... God, this is becoming more and more like Sulake by the day.
What do you mean?

The TCs have been there (and abided) since the start :S. All forums must have a TC in case of a lawsuit.

[Pyroka]

What do you mean?

The TCs have been there (and abided) since the start :S. All forums must have a TC in case of a lawsuit.

I mean that it wasn't the first time someone has said what I have said, about your rights of locking a thread which wasn't needed to be locked. It is however, the first time that the issue needed to be given a excuse by the T&Cs. I know you need them for obvious reasons, but I just find it as a 'backdoor' of explaining a blatent error.

As for the Sulake comment, well they use their 'Illegal T&C Violation' reason to ban random people, many times. Olleh, of this forum, being one of them.

[benjamin]

the council is crap, it isn't anything like it was set up to be.

i'm a member of it lol.

[---MAD---]

I mean that it wasn't the first time someone has said what I have said, about your rights of locking a thread which wasn't needed to be locked. It is however, the first time that the issue needed to be given a excuse by the T&Cs. I know you need them for obvious reasons, but I just find it as a 'backdoor' of explaining a blatent error.

As for the Sulake comment, well they use their 'Illegal T&C Violation' reason to ban random people, many times. Olleh, of this forum, being one of them.
Yes but thats the point of the TC. If you don't abide by them the company has every right to remove the services it offers you.

In that case you pointed out, if the user didn't follow Habbo's TC, then off course he should be banned. TC is just as important as the Habbo way.

[Pyroka]

Yes but thats the point of the TC. If you don't abide by them the company has every right to remove the services it offers you.

In that case you pointed out, if the user didn't follow Habbo's TC, then off course he should be banned. TC is just as important as the Habbo way.

I guess thats very true...

Thing is though, Habbo never explained what he did. They just banned him straight off, for no particular reason.

[---MAD---]

I guess thats very true...

Thing is though, Habbo never explained what he did. They just banned him straight off, for no particular reason.
I don't know the details about that, but many people that get banned on the forum say the exact same thing when they know exactly why but don't want to admit it to others ;).

[Orangeesh]

I guess thats very true...

Thing is though, Habbo never explained what he did. They just banned him straight off, for no particular reason.

But they dont have to explain what he did?


2.3 Sulake UK Ltd has no obligation to monitor the Website. However, we reserve the right to
review materials posted to the Chat Room and Message Boards and to remove any materials at our
sole discretion. Habbo reserves the right to terminate your access to the Chat Room and Message
Boards, or the Site at any time, without notice, for any or no reason.

[Pyroka]

I don't know the details about that, but many people that get banned on the forum say the exact same thing when they know exactly why but don't want to admit it to others ;).

Mmm, or they don't want to admit it to others despite the others already have a few ideas of why. I guess they just can't accept that they were wrong. Thank god when I get banned eventually, I'll know I was right and wrong about things, and could truly admit it.

I know someone whose not been banned yet, but should be, and they have no humility about their actions & just don't admit they're wrong.


But they dont have to explain what he did?


2.3 Sulake UK Ltd has no obligation to monitor the Website. However, we reserve the right to
review materials posted to the Chat Room and Message Boards and to remove any materials at our
sole discretion. Habbo reserves the right to terminate your access to the Chat Room and Message
Boards, or the Site at any time, without notice, for any or no reason.

Touché.

[today]

....
I know someone whose not been banned yet, but should be, and they have no humility about their actions & just don't admit they're wrong.



Touché.
Can i get three gueses who please? :eusa_whis

[Pyroka]

Can i get three gueses who please? :eusa_whis

I don't mention names. I'd rather not put them into disrepute, because they do it themselves. Assume who you like. Jesus christ, I just realised Hollywood, you're a Moderator still! LOL.

[Slowpoke]

But they dont have to explain what he did?


2.3 Sulake UK Ltd has no obligation to monitor the Website. However, we reserve the right to
review materials posted to the Chat Room and Message Boards and to remove any materials at our
sole discretion. Habbo reserves the right to terminate your access to the Chat Room and Message
Boards, or the Site at any time, without notice, for any or no reason.

So they are basically saying they can ban you if they want and they don't need any reason to do it? That's so childish!

Anyway, this is going way off topic!

[Nixt]

Because it was one of the first times someone said we have no right to do so and so when the TC clearly says we do ;).

Doesn't make it fair thoughhhhh.

[Pyroka]

Doesn't make it fair thoughhhhh.

Who said the T&Cs had to be fair? MAD's made his point, and it's a valid one. You can't argue with the text.

[Nixt]

Who said the T&Cs had to be fair? MAD's made his point, and it's a valid one. You can't argue with the text.

They don't. But if members are treated unfairly they are going to become increasingly unhappy, regardless of the T&Cs they agree to on sign up.

[Pyroka]

They don't. But if members are treated unfairly they are going to become increasingly unhappy, regardless of the T&Cs they agree to on sign up.

I'm sure Habbox Management wouldn't care if they were treating their purpose of running a forum, badly... I'm already unhappy with the way this forum is ran really. I don't care much about the T&Cs much, since this is one incident in which they bottled out and hid behind their rules. If they do it more, thats where I'll get irritated.

[-Xiangu-]

T&C's are there for a reason and can be enforced wherever. If you dislike it that much just leave :).

[Pyroka]

T&C's are there for a reason and can be enforced wherever. If you dislike it that much just leave :).

Where did 'dislike' come from? I've coped with HabboxForum rules for at least a year or two, so I think I can get over some T&C rules... :rolleyes: You really did inform everyone of whats already been said though, I applaud you for being so observant and reading this thread thoroughly.

[-Xiangu-]

I read the thread I just stated my opinion.

[Pyroka]

I read the thread I just stated my opinion.

Fair enough. Hm... I never did find out why Catzsy resigned, come to think of it. LOL.

[benjamin]

in the council forums she resigned about a month ago because the council wasn't doing what it was supposed to be.
Fair enough. Hm... I never did find out why Catzsy resigned, come to think of it. LOL.

[Pyroka]

in the council forums she resigned about a month ago because the council wasn't doing what it was supposed to be.

Ah, that sucks. :( I seriously think others will follow...

[benjamin]

no ones posted there about a month
it's crap, it doesn't do what it was set up to do.

i cba to stay in it anymore lol.
Ah, that sucks. :( I seriously think others will follow...

[Pyroka]

A whole month?! What the hell... People must've given up reasoning with the Stalin's and Putin's of HabboxForum. That sucks, seriously. Why don't they just finish the term in April, instead of May?

[Judge Judy]

If the Council isn't really doing what it's supposed to be set up to do then it should be scrapped really.

[Pyroka]

Oor, what I think is the real problem, is to let the council have limited power over management, and the ability to report to Sierk himself. I've noticed that everytime the council propose something, or more to the point, someone else who advises to the council to propose something, management always dismiss it due to it being either a security risk, or counterproductive.

It's all a bit... silly. As I said, Russian Media.

[today]

I don't mention names. I'd rather not put them into disrepute, because they do it themselves. Assume who you like. Jesus christ, I just realised Hollywood, you're a Moderator still! LOL.

WOT u mean by that mister!?! :(

[Pyroka]

WOT u mean by that mister!?! :(

I thought you'd have been fired by now, with all your opinions. LOL.

[today]

I thought you'd have been fired by now, with all your opinions. LOL.
Habbox allow's Staff to have opinions im living proof of this specially as im Moderation, but i know when to stop ;)

[Pyroka]

Habbox allow's Staff to have opinions im living proof of this specially as im Moderation, but i know when to stop ;)

Hmm... By the amount of people I know have an opinion on things, but don't want to voice it because they're staff, made me think that it wasn't allowed! Nevermind :P Where do you MOD btw? I wanna cause a riot.

[Catzsy]

Hollywood
Considering its Catszy and she often seems to moan about 'x' and always writes long replies detailed too sometimes, and i think maybe she uh put up a fight agaisnt or for something but lost and resigned?

am i close!?!?!


No you are not close - that's a surprise isn't? :D Also what's wrong with long, detailed replies? Also me and 'X' get along just fine thanks :eusa_danc


Hecktix
Rosie does have very strong views, and will not give up (even if she is wrong) so I can see the sort of situation that occured. However these presumptions could be wrong

I would be quite upset and angry if this had came from anybody else but you but as it has I find the reply both funny and ironic. Also whether people are right or wrong is subjective to the person's beliefs. What you are actually saying is I don't give up when YOU think I am wrong - there is a world of difference. If I think I am wrong I do not post in the first place and if I am found to be wrong, I apologise and I feel I was wrong to stand for the Council. :D

For Pyroka - Okay I think I misinterpreted and at the very least misunderstood the aims and the function of the Council when I stood. Personally I found the system far too complicated, slow, cumbersome and far to restricted as to what we could discuss or put forward on behalf of the members. Nobody fell out about anything and Nvrspk4 and quite a few of the Council have worked like slaves will be working hard to make it work and I really hope it is successful. I would rather be on the outside looking in on this one - its doesn't suit my way of working. Thanks :)

[Grig]

I think it should of remained open in my opinion. It was just a thread saying how sad it was to lose Catzsy of the Habbox Council, which indeed it was. But anyway not my choice.

I also agree the effectiveness could be improved.

[Pyroka]

For Pyroka - Okay I think I misinterpreted and at the very least misunderstood the aims and the function of the Council when I stood. Personally I found the system far too complicated, slow, cumbersome and far to restricted as to what we could discuss or put forward on behalf of the members. Nobody fell out about anything and Nvrspk4 and quite a few of the Council have worked like slaves will be working hard to make it work and I really hope it is successful. I would rather be on the outside looking in on this one - its doesn't suit my way of working. Thanks :)

Thanks missus! I've been asking that since 2PM today Im sure. It's a shame it turned out that way... Shame you have to put certain stuff forward. That sucks.


I think it should of remained open in my opinion. It was just a thread saying how sad it was to lose Catzsy of the Habbox Council, which indeed it was. But anyway not my choice.

I also agree the effectiveness could be improved.

The council isn't closed yet.

[today]

Hmm... By the amount of people I know have an opinion on things, but don't want to voice it because they're staff, made me think that it wasn't allowed! Nevermind :P Where do you MOD btw? I wanna cause a riot.
Graphics Section by ma self xox.

And nope we are entitled to say our bit by all means unless im special? =D

Edit: Catszy i like your long replies sometimes they are needed ;)

[Pyroka]

Graphics Section by ma self xox.

And nope we are entitled to say our bit by all means unless im special? =D

TIME TO MAKE PORNOGRAPHIC IMAGES IN THE GRAPHICS SECTION LOL.

Er... yeah LOL, I didn't know they could do that tbh. I guess you're the only one with the balls to do it.

[today]

TIME TO MAKE PORNOGRAPHIC IMAGES IN THE GRAPHICS SECTION LOL.

Er... yeah LOL, I didn't know they could do that tbh. I guess you're the only one with the balls to do it.

Sorry im female so i dont have any.

Dont you dare >;] But Catszy you'll still be active right?

[Pyroka]

LOL Oops, I forgot about that SMALL detail...

Hehe, million pictures of mudkipz anyone? xD

[GommeInc]

Please read the Terms and conditions found here (which you agreed to upon registering): http://www.habboxforum.com/faq.php?faq=rules_main

First point says:
- We can (WITHOUT ANY PRIOR NOTICE) edit, close/lock, move, duplicated or publish any of your posted content because as soon as it is posted, you are the author of the content, but it becomes property of Habbox UK Forum.
You could use that as an excuse to close threads, but it makes you look like a control freak and an unprofessional bimbo. Not saying that you are, but that's what it could be perceived as. If you close threads with a real reason you'll get good feedback.

[Kardan]

Catszy isn't on the council anymore?

Thread link?

[GommeInc]

Catszy isn't on the council anymore?

Thread link?
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=464011

Catszy m'dear! I would say come back, but you're really not missing anything... I may join you on the resignation bench soon, depending if anything happens within the next week ;)

[Pyroka]

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=464011

There ya go Kardan.

Ahaha, Gomme, I've been waiting for you young padwan. :P I love saying one thing: I AGREE!

[Catzsy]

Sorry im female so i dont have any.

Dont you dare >;] But Catszy you'll still be active right?

Well I am not sure if Catszy will but I will be on here :D


http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=464011

Catszy m'dear! I would say come back, but you're really not missing anything... I may join you on the resignation bench soon, depending if anything happens within the next week ;)

Hey Gomme, hang on in there Buddy! You have some heavyweight company there :D

[Kardan]

So wait... She resigned, Pyroka made a thread saying it's a shame and it was closed? :rolleyes:

[Pyroka]

So wait... She resigned, Pyroka made a thread saying it's a shame and it was closed? :rolleyes:

Mhmm... Funny aint it. T&C's save the day for MAD methinks.

[today]

Mhmm... Funny aint it. T&C's save the day for MAD methinks.
Dont go down that road again mister >;[

[Pyroka]

LOL, can I go down your road? ;) Hehe. I couldn't help that one. Love you Holly(got)Wood<3

[jrh2002]

Mad might as well have put that he closed the thread because he wanted to instead of copy and paste the t&c's. I agree with gomme that he should have put a valid reason as its not like the thread was a personal attack etc. To be honest I think its more a question that he did not want public support for catzsy with people questioning her exact reasons for leaving the failed council. one of the most dedicated HxF members has jumped the sinking ship and the only way the council would work is if the hxf management were 100% behind it. nvr seems to have put alot of work into the council and it either needs full backing or scrapping.

[GommeInc]

nvrspk4 is annoyed with the council, everyone is. We have no power and the whole point of the council changes every week/2 weeks. People want change, the council is meant to offer this, but we've been told that we are only there to make up new ideas and I refuse to think up new ideas when there are changes desperately needed. The saying "Don't sail more wooden boats into a port which is currently burning" comes to mind. We're not given a response by higher management with what our verdict is on a few ideas and problems either.

[Pyroka]

Mad might as well have put that he closed the thread because he wanted to instead of copy and paste the t&c's. I agree with gomme that he should have put a valid reason as its not like the thread was a personal attack etc. To be honest I think its more a question that he did not want public support for catzsy with people questioning her exact reasons for leaving the failed council. one of the most dedicated HxF members has jumped the sinking ship and the only way the council would work is if the hxf management were 100% behind it. nvr seems to have put alot of work into the council and it either needs full backing or scrapping.

I think so too really. We started questioning the resignation immediately in that thread, so I think MAD closed it to prevent some accusations flying around which could even be true. I agree that the council has failed, but it's only because the Management just don't want to back it because it's their decision to make changes, not the council. They have to get used to the fact that the reason the Council was formed, was to give the users a voice. By the sounds of it though this voice is being silenced by members of the Management team, because of reasons I haven't got a clue about.


nvrspk4 is annoyed with the council, everyone is. We have no power and the whole point of the council changes every week/2 weeks. People want change, the council is meant to offer this, but we've been told that we are only there to make up new ideas and I refuse to think up new ideas when there are changes desperately needed. The saying "Don't sail more wooden boats into a port which is currently burning" comes to mind. We're not given a response by higher management with what our verdict is on a few ideas and problems either.

I can't blame nvrspk being annoyed... There's not enough power being given to the council, and that should change. I'd say putting something in effect would be well for the May elections. It does sound like the Council is kept in the dark on what decisions are made, and they sound more like a brainstorm crew... Or as my old employability teacher called it, "Thought showering".

[today]

LOL, can I go down your road? ;) Hehe. I couldn't help that one. Love you Holly(got)Wood<3
Anytime darling, anytime. ;)

I can see the council being scrapped at this rate.

[e5]

Management getting too big for their boots and a bit stuck up in my opinion but when your in power I suppose its what can happen. I think if someone like Catzsy resigns it must be for a good reason as she is a very good and fair person :P

[Pyroka]

Anytime darling, anytime. ;)

I can see the council being scrapped at this rate.

Agreed. I don't see some members of Management bucking up their ideas either to be honest.


Management getting too big for their boots and a bit stuck up in my opinion but when your in power I suppose its what can happen. I think if someone like Catzsy resigns it must be for a good reason as she is a very good and fair person :P

Management got into the soviet russia boots, and have kept them on for quite some time. Someone is powermad, i can tell you that much. If Catzsy resigns, it shows something is up, yeah.

[Jordy]

What baffles me with the council is, J1MI who recently [allegedly] resigned as the Forum Manager, he then became an administrator and the main helper of the council, which I gather is with nvrspk4? If they have 2 dedicated administrator's to the Council then why isn't it churning out stuff yet? Is it not having dedication from them or are they just over-ruling everything?

[today]

Agreed. I don't see some members of Management bucking up their ideas either to be honest.



Management got into the soviet russia boots, and have kept them on for quite some time. Someone is powermad, i can tell you that much. If Catzsy resigns, it shows something is up, yeah.

Did you do that on purpose or by mistake?

[Pyroka]

What baffles me with the council is, J1MI who recently [allegedly] resigned as the Forum Manager, he then became an administrator and the main helper of the council, which I gather is with nvrspk4? If they have 2 dedicated administrator's to the Council then why isn't it churning out stuff yet? Is it not having dedication from them or are they just over-ruling everything?

I never actually thought about that... Thats very strange. I think it's reluctancy in the management ranks to be honest with you. Too much control may make them feel phased out.


Did you do that on purpose or by mistake?

I have no idea what you are talking about, dearest poirot!

[GommeInc]

What baffles me with the council is, J1MI who recently [allegedly] resigned as the Forum Manager, he then became an administrator and the main helper of the council, which I gather is with nvrspk4? If they have 2 dedicated administrator's to the Council then why isn't it churning out stuff yet? Is it not having dedication from them or are they just over-ruling everything?
I'm not entirely sure what is up with the council. I know about as much as you, and I'm apart of it :S I can say this for certain, though, that no members of the council even know if their ideas have been used and the council keeps changing which confuses everything. It's not nvrspk's fault, he is being forced to make these changes and is looking like a right goon on behalf of his leaders, who seem to fear the council making too many changes. We've been told to think up new ideas, so if anyone wants anything to change. The answer is "No." We simply don't have the power. Every system like the word filter, moderation system and rep system are set in stone, we have no say in what needs to change, even though we're backed by members who know how the forum runs alot more than the management.

[Pyroka]

I'm not entirely sure what is up with the council. I know about as much as you, and I'm apart of it :S I can say this for certain, though, that no members of the council even know if their ideas have been used and the council keeps changing which confuses everything. It's not nvrspk's fault, he is being forced to make these changes and is looking like a right goon on behalf of his leaders, who seem to fear the council making too many changes. We've been told to think up new ideas, so if anyone wants anything to change. The answer is "No." We simply don't have the power. Every system like the word filter, moderation system and rep system are set in stone, we have no say in what needs to change, even though we're backed by members who know how the forum runs alot more than the management.

Wow... Well that just sums up the future of the Council really. Very, very pointless. I'm starting to think they just made the council to keep members 'happy' and to give them a 'meaning'. Well that went wrong if that was the reason. I'm actually starting to feel sorry for nvrspk4...

[today]

Wow... Well that just sums up the future of the Council really. Very, very pointless. I'm starting to think they just made the council to keep members 'happy' and to give them a 'meaning'. Well that went wrong if that was the reason. I'm actually starting to feel sorry for nvrspk4...
i dont he floods my inbox too often!

[JackHb]

I never liked the council idea from the start, I check the forums now and again and there is nothing going on with them. Like Jrh2002 said, Nvrspk4 put a lot of work into them, but it takes more than just one staff member to get it all going so it doesn't look as though he has had enough backing.

The council has been discussed back years ago and it was never set up, I never thought it would work and it hasn't, lets hope they can prove us wrong.

Sad to see you leave Catzy as your probably one of a very few council staff who have actually tried to get it going (And before people have a go at me, I admit that I aint even touched the council stuff as until it has some proper kind of use apart from being set up to keep the memebers happy, then I have no need to waste my time on posts which will just be left to rot and nothing acted upon)

[today]

I never liked the council idea from the start, I check the forums now and again and there is nothing going on with them. Like Jrh2002 said, Nvrspk4 put a lot of work into them, but it takes more than just one staff member to get it all going so it doesn't look as though he has had enough backing.

The council has been discussed back years ago and it was never set up, I never thought it would work and it hasn't, lets hope they can prove us wrong.

Sad to see you leave Catzy as your probably one of a very few council staff who have actually tried to get it going (And before people have a go at me, I admit that I aint even touched the council stuff as until it has some proper kind of use apart from being set up to keep the memebers happy, then I have no need to waste my time on posts which will just be left to rot and nothing acted upon)
I didnt even know you was part of the council :s

[GommeInc]

Even if it had aload of staff behind it, it would still need the backing of the higher management. Everything does, really.


I never liked the council idea from the start, I check the forums now and again and there is nothing going on with them. Like Jrh2002 said, Nvrspk4 put a lot of work into them, but it takes more than just one staff member to get it all going so it doesn't look as though he has had enough backing.

The council has been discussed back years ago and it was never set up, I never thought it would work and it hasn't, lets hope they can prove us wrong.

Sad to see you leave Catzy as your probably one of a very few council staff who have actually tried to get it going (And before people have a go at me, I admit that I aint even touched the council stuff as until it has some proper kind of use apart from being set up to keep the memebers happy, then I have no need to waste my time on posts which will just be left to rot and nothing acted upon)

[JackHb]

I didnt even know you was part of the council :s

I try and keep it quiet, it will ruin my reputation :eusa_shhh:eusa_shif

@GommeInc - Exactly, if Hx Management wanted it to work so badly, then trust me, it would have worked by now.

(I am not blaming any1 in particular, I am just stating that if all the managers put effort into this then it would have worked)

[Pyroka]

I never liked the council idea from the start, I check the forums now and again and there is nothing going on with them. Like Jrh2002 said, Nvrspk4 put a lot of work into them, but it takes more than just one staff member to get it all going so it doesn't look as though he has had enough backing.

The council has been discussed back years ago and it was never set up, I never thought it would work and it hasn't, lets hope they can prove us wrong.

Sad to see you leave Catzy as your probably one of a very few council staff who have actually tried to get it going (And before people have a go at me, I admit that I aint even touched the council stuff as until it has some proper kind of use apart from being set up to keep the memebers happy, then I have no need to waste my time on posts which will just be left to rot and nothing acted upon)

Yep, he's a council member alright. It's a shame this isn't working properly though like you said. The iron fist of Habbox Management are silencing the work of members & the council. I guess they never heard about equality... If nothing changes soon, I'm going to call for something.


Even if it had aload of staff behind it, it would still need the backing of the higher management. Everything does, really.

Agreed, everything does, and it takes alot to persuade the management because they think they're higher than anybody else.

[GommeInc]

I try and keep it quiet, it will ruin my reputation :eusa_shhh:eusa_shif

@GommeInc - Exactly, if Hx Management wanted it to work so badly, then trust me, it would have worked by now.
You're still a boring, miserable sod to me, whether you're in the council or not :)

I think it's a bit rude of MAD, Joshuar, sierk not to back up nvrspk4, tis terrible....


Agreed, everything does, and it takes alot to persuade the management because they think they're higher than anybody else.
I'm not sure why they think they are higher than anyone else, there's no reason for them to be. They're roughly the same age as us and as dumb and stupid as us :D

[Pyroka]

LOL NO I R BETTER AND CLEVEREERER. xD Yeeeah I guess you're right with that. You shouldn't discredit Joshuar tbh, I've always been fond of that guy since he's one of the AGMs who is never mentioned & gets on with his job anyway. Same with Adzeh & nvrspk4 too. I would probably put down my hatred towards the management in General, to the General Manager himself. He gives the team a bad name.

It's a sad fact, since I know those AGMs work hard as hell.

[GommeInc]

LOL NO I R BETTER AND CLEVEREERER. xD Yeeeah I guess you're right with that. You shouldn't discredit Joshuar tbh, I've always been fond of that guy since he's one of the AGMs who is never mentioned & gets on with his job anyway. Same with Adzeh & nvrspk4 too. I would probably put down my hatred towards the management in General, to the General Manager himself. He gives the team a bad name.

It's a sad fact, since I know those AGMs work hard as hell.
They're in the management team, they bring it on themselves until they change their titles to Senior Managers :P They're all decent, but not very supportive.

[Pyroka]

They're in the management team, they bring it on themselves until they change their titles to Senior Managers :P They're all decent, but not very supportive.

LOL Senior Managers, yesyes. I forgot all about that one bwaha. I agree, they are all decent guys but MAD puts them into the shameful doubt of all the members on this forum. I don't think the AGMs are publicly supportive, because they don't support what MAD is doing to this forum. I doubt they'd admit that either to be honest with you, or they just don't know it yet... But I wouldn't admit it myself if I were in their position.

[GommeInc]

LOL Senior Managers, yesyes. I forgot all about that one bwaha. I agree, they are all decent guys but MAD puts them into the shameful doubt of all the members on this forum. I don't think the AGMs are publicly supportive, because they don't support what MAD is doing to this forum. I doubt they'd admit that either to be honest with you, or they just don't know it yet... But I wouldn't admit it myself if I were in their position.
Hmmm, you have to remember that not everything that bad happens is of MADs doing. The council partly down to him, because it was meant to be a main group and section of the forum and he should of backed it up. But other things he takes the blame for, which although yes he can, doesn't win him any favours.

[Pyroka]

Ok, most things are of MADs doing. :P!!! The council was doomed to fail if he was to be in charge of it. MAD shouldn't have much involvement in the council, but should still promote it. It's a shame he couldn't do that... Nor could he 'reason' with the council members (from what I can tell). Tell me, when you gave ideas out and he either disapproved of them or said "We'll look into it", did he ever give you feedback on the idea from "We'll look into it"? I don't think he did personally, and he had no intentions of doing so either. One thing he should be doing, is reasoning with the councils ideas and finding solutions which will tackle the problems which might be caused by the introduction of new features... I bet he never did that, did he.

[GommeInc]

Ok, most things are of MADs doing. :P!!! The council was doomed to fail if he was to be in charge of it. MAD shouldn't have much involvement in the council, but should still promote it. It's a shame he couldn't do that... Nor could he 'reason' with the council members (from what I can tell). Tell me, when you gave ideas out and he either disapproved of them or said "We'll look into it", did he ever give you feedback on the idea from "We'll look into it"? I don't think he did personally, and he had no intentions of doing so either. One thing he should be doing, is reasoning with the councils ideas and finding solutions which will tackle the problems which might be caused by the introduction of new features... I bet he never did that, did he.
Nearly all the ideas don't have feedback from him. It's only nvrspk4 that seems to comment on behalf of them. I'm not even sure if MAD ever gave feedback himself, personally, in any of the threads.

[Pyroka]

Nearly all the ideas don't have feedback from him. It's only nvrspk4 that seems to comment on behalf of them. I'm not even sure if MAD ever gave feedback himself, personally, in any of the threads.

:rolleyes: Well, wasn't this idea just doomed to fail. I swear to god, if the council is still up by May, I'm running for it. If MAD is so ignorant, he shouldn't even be co-ordinating what they can and can't do. I don't mean to pressure J1MI, but he should be looking into what different possibilties could be used instead of one idea, because it may have a security flaw, or could make the forum run slower. He's a Forum Admin, so he's the guy to ask.

nvrspk4 is doing exactly what he should be by the sounds of it, so I can't really say anything!

[Brody]

so how long has the council been going now? and has it actually improved anything?

[Pyroka]

so how long has the council been going now? and has it actually improved anything?

Since 30th January it's been going. No, it hasn't improved a thing, because Management won't let them!

[GommeInc]

About a month and a half now? And I'm not too sure myself, we don't get told if anything has changed. We normally bring up ideas that the management don't want to touch for some reason.

[Jordy]

so how long has the council been going now? and has it actually improved anything?January and no not really, they've all been trying hard with research and things but no luck from above to actually get anywhere.

I was always a little sceptical about the council, however it would be an amazing addition to Habbox if it worked how it was intended too.

[Pyroka]

I think each month, there should be some sort of Council update announcement. Every week would be irritating, but if it was every month then at least they could show their progress every month, for the span of... 4 months, I think. I'm sure that's how long each term is. Those would actually show what the council are doing for the users, and what they're trying to do. I don't even know what the council have proposed really.

Just a question btw, who will be taking over the Exec. Member Rep position now?

[GommeInc]

nvrspk4 said there'd be announcement every 2 weeks or so, when a conclusion is made on the idea brought forward. But we never got that far sadly.

Not sure who'll take over member rep. To be honest, the whole representative system didn't work. Not sure where nvrspk4, last time I heard from him was when we were arguing about the council and how Catzsy and I refuse to make new ideas and not change the old ones when it's the old ones that need fixing. I'm probably not meant to tell you this, but when you think about it, does it really matter?

[Pyroka]

I'm guessing you never came to conclusions since they were all the same, right? or MAD put you on 'hold'... It's a shame the council idea isn't working like it should. It'd be so awesome if the Management actually supported it. They want this forum to be for the members right? Well let them!

[GommeInc]

I and a few others put forward ideas on how to make the council run smoothly. Not sure if they'll be taken on board.

Basically 3 forums.

- 1 for ideas that we'll discuss, even though they may not be put up for discussion formally. This forum would also serve as a resource for further discussions and would give the management a few ideas on changes.
- Another forum for basic chat
- The last forum is for formal discussions which the management have brought forward and what are being put forward, by the council chair.

Not sure if you read my edit, I didn't read what you wrote at the bottom till last minute :P

[Pyroka]

Not sure who'll take over member rep. To be honest, the whole representative system didn't work. Not sure where nvrspk4, last time I heard from him was when we were arguing about the council and how Catzsy and I refuse to make new ideas and not change the old ones when it's the old ones that need fixing. I'm probably not meant to tell you this, but when you think about it, does it really matter?

Does what really matter? You lost me. xD

I agree with what you and Catzsy did, because they are the issues and there's no others. It's ignorance when you look at it from this perspective. A shame too, since I bet you came up with some good ideas, along with the members, and they just didn't want any of it.


I and a few others put forward ideas on how to make the council run smoothly. Not sure if they'll be taken on board.

Basically 3 forums.

- 1 for ideas that we'll discuss, even though they may not be put up for discussion formally. This forum would also serve as a resource for further discussions and would give the management a few ideas on changes.
- Another forum for basic chat
- The last forum is for formal discussions which the management have brought forward and what are being put forward, by the council chair.

Not sure if you read my edit, I didn't read what you wrote at the bottom till last minute :P

1st forum is a good idea because we all know references r good<3
2nd forum is a great idea because I bet they have none of that?
3rd forum is probably the best one, because it's like a meeting between Management & Council members.

[GommeInc]

Does what really matter? You lost me. xD

I agree with what you and Catzsy did, because they are the issues and there's no others. It's ignorance when you look at it from this perspective. A shame too, since I bet you came up with some good ideas, along with the members, and they just didn't want any of it.



1st forum is a good idea because we all know references r good<3
2nd forum is a great idea because I bet they have none of that?
3rd forum is probably the best one, because it's like a meeting between Management & Council members.
We have a chat forum, but we have about 3 forums for agendas and stuff, which is alot really for something that happens every 2 or so weeks.

The 'does it really matter?' was connected with 'I'm not sure if I'm meant to be telling you this.' :)

[Pyroka]

We have a chat forum, but we have about 3 forums for agendas and stuff, which is alot really for something that happens every 2 or so weeks.

The 'does it really matter?' was connected with 'I'm not sure if I'm meant to be telling you this.' :)

:S 3 forums for Agendas? There's really no need for that. All nvrspk4 needs to do is gather all the ideas together, and post them in a forum displaying the ideas which gets forwarded to the council chair.

Yeah, it doesn't really matter at all... lol.

[Hecktix1]

tbh habbox is nothing but a facist regime and the council is just a pathetic attempt to cover this up.

the fact that the fuhrur closed your thread is proof enough of that :)

Management listen to nobody but themselves.

[Pyroka]

I'm surprised they haven't exercised the right they have to lock/delete threads for this... I'm going to be a bit more specific on this, and that it's only certain members of Management who listen to nobody. Some members of Management I've noticed to be hard-working people, and one I've always known has been a hard-working bloke. It's a shame the 'Furher' is giving such a bad name to the whole General management team.

[---GOD---]

I'm surprised they haven't exercised the right they have to lock/delete threads for this... I'm going to be a bit more specific on this, and that it's only certain members of Management who listen to nobody. Some members of Management I've noticed to be hard-working people, and one I've always known has been a hard-working bloke. It's a shame the 'Furher' is giving such a bad name to the whole General management team.

yeah you're right here Ryan.
It is a shame.
I know who you are talking about, and I can comment on another who I believe has changed over the course of the fuhrer being in charge.

[Pyroka]

Mmm... I'm not naming any names, I doubt they'd appreciate it but I bet you do know yeah.

[Catzsy]

tbh habbox is nothing but a facist regime and the council is just a pathetic attempt to cover this up.

the fact that the fuhrur closed your thread is proof enough of that :)

Management listen to nobody but themselves.

Wow, this is a first cos I am Hitler according to you so me and the GM are in the same position! ROFL. Oh Oli.....you do have a way with words:D

[---GOD---]

Wow, this is a first cos I am Hitler according to you so me and the GM are in the same position! ROFL. Oh Oli.....you do have a way with words:D

you are no longer the resident hitler.

you are more like a margeret thatcher figure, which if you think about it has good and bad points, as you should have looked at my post in the other thread, I wasn't actually being nasty.

[Catzsy]

you are no longer the resident hitler.

you are more like a margerat thatcher figure, which if you think about it has good and bad points, as you should have looked at my post in the other thread, I wasn't actually being nasty.


Margaret Thatcher:@:@ ROFL :) I think I would rather be Hitler and I didn't say you were being nasty :D

[Grig]

I wouldn't say it is a Fascist regime, because; a- you need to get your definition of a Fascist regime correct before saying so and b- People in my opinion still have a lot of freedom. Sure, I would say Habbox has changed over the years, and there is now less freedom on the forums as before. But no one is getting controlled here. If it was one, this thread would also have been closed to be honest. I'd say some things are now under more tight control and sure Habbox has its flaws etc., but obviously it is still one of the most popular Habbo forums around. The subject of Authoritarianism is also not in any case true on Habbox. I would say there has become a tighter authority on members, but that is due to the rapid change of the community, since Habbox first opened. I agree with everyone and it is a very big shame to lose Catzsy from the Habbox Council, as I would say she was one of the only members who was genuinely interested in the well being of Habbox. Although now I feel myself that the council itself is lacking a bit of activity, but it is in no way doing badly. I am sure one of the factors of why Caztsy left because of her frustration with the council. So anyway, I won't go writing more because I can do this all day. But that's my opinion anyway.

[---GOD---]

Margaret Thatcher:@:@ ROFL :) I think I would rather be Hitler and I didn't say you were being nasty :D
no, the lion is hitler.

you can be mussolini or stalin.

[Catzsy]

no, the lion is hitler.

you can be mussolini or stalin.


Okay Mussolini then I think because it sounds like Pasta. :D

I also think maybe a warning pm would have been appropriate - oops have I got my wooden spoon out here? And also who gave you the infraction when you were staff - the staff editor? Anyway That's my opinion. :P

[Grig]

Stalin had the best controlled regime in my opinion. He had no opposition and all opposition was shot. Margaret Thatcher thought internationalism was impossible, so don't like her.

Anyway how is Catzsy a dictator lol, she should be like Muhammad Gandhi, the Dai Lai Lama or Nelson Mandela campaigning for piece rofl.

[GommeInc]

I wouldn't say it is a Fascist regime, because; a- you need to get your definition of a Fascist regime correct before saying so and b- People in my opinion still have a lot of freedom. Sure, I would say Habbox has changed over the years, and there is now less freedom on the forums as before. But no one is getting controlled here. If it was one, this thread would also have been closed to be honest. I'd say some things are now under more tight control and sure Habbox has its flaws etc., but obviously it is still one of the most popular Habbo forums around. The subject of Authoritarianism is also not in any case true on Habbox. I would say there has become a tighter authority on members, but that is due to the rapid change of the community, since Habbox first opened. I agree with everyone and it is a very big shame to lose Catzsy from the Habbox Council, as I would say she was one of the only members who was genuinely interested in the well being of Habbox. Although now I feel myself that the council itself is lacking a bit of activity, but it is in no way doing badly. I am sure one of the factors of why Caztsy left because of her frustration with the council. So anyway, I won't go writing more because I can do this all day. But that's my opinion anyway.
Someone clearly knows nothing about Habbox :rolleyes: The council has failed, no activity has happened within the council for weeks and this is coming from a Habbox Council Member, not a Radio DJ ;) The council hasn't done anything as far as anyone is concerned. No-one has been told if ideas have been put into place and we cannot change Habbox for the better because for some reason higher-management have it written in stone that we cannot change certain things, even though the majority (members and staff) are for changes. We're only here to make new ideas, which quite frankly is something I and many others do not want to do when there are changes needed.

Even the way you say Habbox is good but not kinda suggest you don't know yourself what to think, because you say it is good but then saying '...well being of Habbox...' which discredits what you have said, because the well-being of Habbox must have problems in order for the council to exist.

The problem is that the management refuse change and refuse to listen to anyone. I don't see MAD sorting out these issues and calming the members when he should be, making sure all changes are taken down and used, not just saying it to please people :rolleyes: I've told MAD this many times, still hasn't listened.

[---GOD---]

Stalin had the best controlled regime in my opinion. He had no opposition and all opposition was shot. Margaret Thatcher thought internationalism was impossible, so don't like her.

Anyway how is Catzsy a dictator lol, she should be like Muhammad Gandhi, the Dai Lai Lama or Nelson Mandela campaigning for piece rofl.

LOLL MUHAMMAD GANDHI LOLLL
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Edited by Favourtism (Forum Super Moderator): Please do not post pointlessly.

[Grig]

I agree, and I do know Habbox tbh. I do see that the council hasn't done not much in the past few weeks. It started out with momentum, but now it’s all faded and nothing is really happening. Though I agree with you, an active council should be a big benefactor in the well being of Habbox, this council should represent our views. Yet these, so far haven’t really been done. The idea as I said is good, but the actual action is nothing. As they say you need to talk the talk and walk the walk.


Someone clearly knows nothing about Habbox :rolleyes: The council has failed, no activity has happened within the council for weeks and this is coming from a Habbox Council Member, not a Radio DJ ;) The council hasn't done anything as far as anyone is concerned. No-one has been told if ideas have been put into place and we cannot change Habbox for the better because for some reason higher-management have it written in stone that we cannot change certain things, even though the majority (members and staff) are for changes. We're only here to make new ideas, which quite frankly is something I and many others do not want to do when there are changes needed.

Even the way you say Habbox is good but not kinda suggest you don't know yourself what to think, because you say it is good but then saying '...well being of Habbox...' which discredits what you have said, because the well-being of Habbox must have problems in order for the council to exist.

The problem is that the management refuse change and refuse to listen to anyone. I don't see MAD sorting out these issues and calming the members when he should be, making sure all changes are taken down and used, not just saying it to please people :rolleyes: I've told MAD this many times, still hasn't listened.

[-:Undertaker:-]

I have always said from the beginning the council will fail and will be dominated by management. I guess what you have just said Pyroka has just proven me right :)

[Pyroka]

I have always said from the beginning the council will fail and will be dominated by management. I guess what you have just said Pyroka has just proven me right :)

You just know the management too well!