Do You Believe There is a GOD?

[Clowgon]

Absolutely. the world is too beautiful for there to have not been an intelligent designer. Why are we on this Earth if there is no God? We have everything to gain by believing.

I think also we all had a past life on this Earth before.
I also believe this is our last life on Earth.
Many pepole say the pepole who are Crippled or Disabled are the way they are because they have done something bad in their past life.

What are your thoughts?

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[Grindie]

there's something there

deep inside our minds

just no ones been clever enough to figure it out yet

[Orangeesh]

No I dont tbh.

[Firehorse]

There could be. I have many theories. One is that the whole earth is a scientific experiment and that we are in another world on a teachers desk in a vacuumed jar and that every second for them is 1 million years for us or similar. Then they may be different and not have space. That would explain the vacuum around earth.

[GhostFace-]

I Do Believe in God

[Sammeth.]

I'm a man of Science; I don't beleive in God.

[kardiogram]

no i don't.

[benjamin]

no, i don't believe there is a god. :)

[Hazza]

No - end of.
Big bang theory is the most realistic :).

[Clowgon]

No I dont tbh.



I'm a man of Science; I don't beleive in God.



no i don't.



no, i don't believe there is a god. :)



No - end of.
Big bang theory is the most realistic :).

Good luck to all of you. You are going to need it:)

[Hazza]

Good luck to all of you. You are going to need it:)
Oh no. I'm going to hell. ><
If there was a god he would understand my way of thinking and not everyone's religous you know? Just because you do we don't have to mate ;).

[Mr.Sam]

Stephan Hawking is apparently close to solving it :)

and I don't believe in god.
there's something there

deep inside our minds

just no ones been clever enough to figure it out yet

[benjamin]

i'll need it twice as bad, i am a dirty homosexual :O
Good luck to all of you. You are going to need it:)

[Hazza]

i'll need it twice as bad, i am a dirty homosexual :O
LOL bennnnnnn. +rep. x

[Florx]

Im an atheist.

No proof - no god. Sorry.

[Insedated]

I believe there some form of God yes.

[Jord]

Yes or else the world wouldnt of been made and we wouldnt be here right now..

[Clowgon]

Oh no. I'm going to hell. ><
If there was a god he would understand my way of thinking and not everyone's religous you know? Just because you do we don't have to mate ;).

Yeh i know but when the world ends. You will be crying sorry:P




i'll need it twice as bad, i am a dirty homosexual :O

You naughty naughty boy:P

[GhostFace-]

Im an atheist.

No proof - no god. Sorry.

the world

Adam eve

the galaxy.

[benjamin]

so you believe in incest then, yes?

the world

Adam eve

the galaxy.

[Hazza]

Yeh i know but when the world ends. You will be crying sorry:P





You naughty naughty boy:P
I won't be here when the world ends so I'm not bothered :)

[Kardan]

No. There is no 'God', there is no 'Deity'.

[Hazza]

I believe in things such as Destiny and Fate though :).

[GhostFace-]

so you believe in incest then, yes?

wots that,

[benjamin]

same, i believe in karma too.
I believe in things such as Destiny and Fate though :).

& incest is when you have sexual intercourse with members of your own family - you must believe in that to believe in adam and eve? the only way adam and eve could've started the human population was if they had kids, and their kids had kids with eachother, etc.

nice, eh?

[Hazza]

Were two family members become sexual partners.
Well, doesn't have to be sexual.

[GommeInc]

Good luck to all of you. You are going to need it:)
This is coming from someone with a Barbie running over a Ken figure in their signature. Scenes like that encourage murder, which is against the rule of God. I pity you.

The word and galaxy = big bang. Adam and Eve = Incest lovers.

[Mr.Sam]

Should you not value our opinion?
I could easily say;

"Look at all the time you have wasted preaching for something that doesn't exist."


Good luck to all of you. You are going to need it:)

[bo$$]

Absolutely. the world is too beautiful for there to have not been an intelligent designer. Why are we on this Earth if there is no God? We have everything to gain by believing.

I think also we all had a past life on this Earth before.
I also believe this is our last life on Earth.
Many pepole say the pepole who are Crippled or Disabled are the way they are because they have done something bad in their past life.

What are your thoughts?


there's something there

deep inside our minds

just no ones been clever enough to figure it out yet

I kinda agree with those.
I think that this world, the way our bodies work, the way ANYTHING works.. has to have something behind it. I don't just think that a ball of gas exploded and created life, thoughts, characteristics, etc etc et cetcetcetc.

[mangle]

I reckon that Stephen Hawkings theories are all about correct. The big bang theory is the most realistic to me and they can back it up with fact , more fact than has been presented to me than God.

[jackass]

Yes, there is, end of.

[benjamin]

end of? i hate it when people say a really blunt statement, with no justification whatsoever and is complete crap and then just says 'end of', because it clearly isn't.

/VEX.
Yes, there is, end of.

[jackass]

end of? i hate it when people say a really blunt statement, with no justification whatsoever and is complete crap and then just says 'end of', because it clearly isn't.

/VEX.

I know, it annoys me as well.

I only put it to prove to 'piss' that it isn't end of.

[Teyauna.]

Good luck to all of you. You are going to need it:)

I agree.

I believe there is a God. I'm Christian.

[Hazza]

I know, it annoys me as well.

I only put it to prove to 'piss' that it isn't end of.
I meant to by 'No, end of' in my eyes matey. Ask before you go making accusations. ;)

[Clowgon]

This is coming from someone with a Barbie running over a Ken figure in their signature. Scenes like that encourage murder, which is against the rule of God. I pity you.

The word and galaxy = big bang. Adam and Eve = Incest lovers.

This is coming from someone with a Dog and a Duck in thier Avatar. What acomplete joke you are. How old are you?

And i pity you.

Who the hell are you to Judge me.

In the Bible dose it say to Gamble? Dose it say to waste your money?

There is only one man out there to judge me and its certaintly not you.

[Sammeth.]

Edit: Wrong thread much.

[Bouncing]

tbh, i dnt knw what to beleive because there must be something underneath it all bt im bad at saying fact is there is no proof? but i dont say there isnt

[RedStratocas]

Yes, there is, end of.

can't argue with that logic.

no one knows. anyone who says they do is a liar. i don't know if there is, and i never will.

[Slowpoke]

can't argue with that logic.

no one knows. anyone who says they do is a liar. i don't know if there is, and i never will.

there isn't and it's barbaric to believe differently. some fat man created a universe in six days... don't think so.

[Misawa]

I don't believe in anything of the sort. It's way too rediculous.

[Mr.Sam]

"who the hell are you to judge gomme"


This is coming from someone with a Dog and a Duck in thier Avatar. What acomplete joke you are. How old are you?

And i pity you.

Who the hell are you to Judge me.

In the Bible dose it say to Gamble? Dose it say to waste your money?

There is only one man out there to judge me and its certaintly not you.

[Oleh]

God is not real as there is not logical explanation on how HE was created and how the creator was created and so forth , I belive we had a past life , i also belive people with cancer were crab fishers in there past life , and people with disabilitys were God worshipers in there past life (Dont flame me for any of this , its just an opinion (Most likely wrong and i could probably get like 30 bad rep for :P))

[benjamin]

why is it you think that? because most of it doesn't make logical sense, if you explained why you thought it then maybe no one would have reason to think you're being an idiot.
God is not real as there is not logical explanation on how HE was created and how the creator was created and so forth , I belive we had a past life , i also belive people with cancer were crab fishers in there past life , and people with disabilitys were God worshipers in there past life (Dont flame me for any of this , its just an opinion (Most likely wrong and i could probably get like 30 bad rep for :P))

[Oleh]

I think that because Crab fishing is an unruly sport which shouldnt be commited as crabs are low in numbers now and cancer is a crab which also makes me think that they were , I think disabled people were god worshippers because they have thought there was a big man to talk to when all along it was either a picture of jude law or the bedsheets covered in faeces.

[Neversoft]

I would like to believe there is a god, but there isnt. Science prevails.


Good luck to all of you. You are going to need it:)

You believe that fiction is real, good luck to you, you're going to need it. :)

[GommeInc]

This is coming from someone with a Dog and a Duck in thier Avatar. What acomplete joke you are. How old are you?

And i pity you.

Who the hell are you to Judge me.

In the Bible dose it say to Gamble? Dose it say to waste your money?

There is only one man out there to judge me and its certaintly not you.
You are a bad Christian... Do not judge others is another rule the bible and even any form of Christianity for that matter teaches "/ "Thou shalt not bear false witness of thy neightbour." Learn it from thy God, or burn in hell for going against your Lord.

I work at a church and go each week, I know this sort of thing and a meer peasant like you IS going to hell. Although I am not a Christian myself, so I'll meet you there ;)

Also using the word 'hell' is blaspheming and even suggesting you can make someone go to hell makes you seem like you have the power to do so. Another thing you're going to hell for. Presenting yourself as the good Lord. See you in hell my friend :D

[Frodo13.]

No proof that God does not exist, therefore I remain open mined about things. I also think the Big Bang is just as unlikely as Adam and Eve tbh

[N!ck]

I'm agnostic. I'd love to put people who believe in "god" in their place and be an athiest, but a can't but them in their place as their is no evidence until the 11th dimension is discovered. Come on LHC, May 2008.

[drama]

Good luck to all of you. You are going to need it:)
LOL.
You start a debate, then counter everyone straight away without considering what they say.
You're the person that said FINCH would hack NASA didn't you? lll

[Brody]

nope i do not believe in god

[N!ck]

No proof that God does not exist, therefore I remain open mined about things. I also think the Big Bang is just as unlikely as Adam and Eve tbh

There is hard evidence that the big bang happened. Adam and Eve is a story.

[today]

I hope there is no god tbh

[GommeInc]

I support evolution and the big bang, but I'm not sure what I think happened before it. Not all Christian's are against evolution, there's a special word for that but they still believe Adam and Eve were the original humans.

[Sammeth.]

I support evolution and the big bang, but I'm not sure what I think happened before it. Not all Christian's are against evolution, there's a special word for that but they still believe Adam and Eve were the original humans.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-creationism is that what you mean? Or am I miles off :(!

[GommeInc]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-creationism is that what you mean? Or am I miles off :(!
That's the one :P

[Jord]

There is hard evidence that the big bang happened. Adam and Eve is a story.


You said it so right god sake people get it into your thick skull's HOW WAS THE WORLD MADE THEN?

[Virgin Mary]

The Earth was created when lots of materials came together into a ball of gas because of gravity and eventually it solidified, forming the planet.

[Moh]

I am god.

jks, and no I dont belive in him/her/it.
Evolution is much more believable.

[cunning]

I believe their is a God, sometimes I question it too, but I never doubt him.

[Clowgon]

woops.

[Clowgon]

Im going to need it? I sure dont think so.:)


You believe that fiction is real, good luck to you, you're going to need it. :)[/quote]

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[Clowgon]

I believe their is a God, sometimes I question it too, but I never doubt him.

Yeh me to i question it to. Why is there so much suffering in the world.

You believe that fiction is real, good luck to you, you're going to need it. :)[/quote][/quote]

I going to need it? I sure dont think so.:)

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[Oleh]

The big bang is around 75% backed up by evidence , my friend alex found out that if you listen to the static on your tv (non tuned channel) you can hear the big bang :P

[luce]

I just did a 6 month projct on this and im not any close to the answer but i think hes a state of mind.

[Moh]

The big bang is around 75% backed up by evidence , my friend alex found out that if you listen to the static on your tv (non tuned channel) you can hear the big bang :P
Is your friend now deaf?
But people who say, how could the big bang just happen (Who believe in god usually), and then you say how can god just happen? Then they just say god created the big band, and then you just wana punch them xD

There is much more evidence about the big bang, and I have a feeling there is no evidence about "gods" existence.

[GommeInc]

Yeh me to i question it to. Why is there so much suffering in the world.

You believe that fiction is real, good luck to you, you're going to need it. :)

I going to need it? I sure dont think so.:)
No... You ARE going to need luck. Telling someone they're going to hell is a sin, so is preaching the word of God as if you have the power to sentence to someone to hell. If you don't follow your Lord, you God's commandment of 'Love Thy neighbour" then you're commiting yourself to a life of sin. You need to teach people, and welcome them. Not blow a gasket...

[Moh]

No... You ARE going to need luck. Telling someone they're going to hell is a sin, so is preaching the word of God as if you have the power to sentence to someone to hell. If you don't follow your Lord, you God's commandment of 'Love Thy neighbour" then you're commiting yourself to a life of sin. You need to teach people, and welcome them. Not blow a gasket...
So in other words, if you don't belive in god your going to hell?
Thats stupid.

[lew!]

I dont beleive in god, but i beleive theres something there.

[---GOD---]

yes i do x

[Moh]

I dont beleive in god, but i beleive theres something there.
Creapy :p

Its hard to think, how did everything get there? What was there before time?
It couldn't just appear :s
Urg, im gona stop thinking now. I shall confuse myself :p

[Clowgon]

No... You ARE going to need luck. Telling someone they're going to hell is a sin, so is preaching the word of God as if you have the power to sentence to someone to hell. If you don't follow your Lord, you God's commandment of 'Love Thy neighbour" then you're commiting yourself to a life of sin. You need to teach people, and welcome them. Not blow a gasket...

What are you on about? :eusa_wall I did not say anyone will go to hell. Please dont not twist my words.

[Energizer]

no i don't.

[GommeInc]

What are you on about? :eusa_wall I did not say anyone will go to hell. Please dont not twist my words.
What else could you possibly mean when you're pitying people :rolleyes: Considering the discussion is about God's existence and heaven and hell, you're either pitying people because they're stupid or because they're ending up in hell. The only reasonable meaning by pitying someone is that you believe they're going to hell, unless you think the whole big bang theories and evolution was backed by idiots :rolleyes:


So in other words, if you don't belive in god your going to hell?
Thats stupid.
Not as such, as long as you follow the general ideas put forward by Christianity, you'll be allowed to enter the kingdom of heaven. It's all confusing, but you expect that from religion :P

[Jellybeans]

where is god?
if he exists
he must be somewhere

[jam666]

i believe there is something there however i dont believe god created the earth

the earth is one of many planets in the milky way ( our glaxy )
now in the centre of our galaxy is the really big cloud thing (forgotten name) and when different gases mix with this cloud a star is formed it is then pushed very far out (to the edge of the galaxy)

in the end i believe that planets are the left overs from making a star but whatever it might not make sense to myself or yous.

[Frodo13.]

The Big Bang is contradictory. Its suppose to have created everything that exists, which presumes nothing was here before. If nothing was here before, how was anything created at all?

[cocaine]

God is whoever you want him to be :)

[FlyingJesus]

Oh dear. This thread has gone exactly as I thought it would when I saw the title - it's become Christianty vs Atheism.

I'm not sure if anyone's aware, but there are other possibilities. There are other religions and there is the possibility that no-one's right, that perhaps there is or has been a god or series of gods somewhere at some time. A god doesn't have to be omnipotent, doesn't have to be benevolent, doesn't have to fit what you want them to be. The argument "god doesn't like what I do so I don't believe" is really crap.

Also @Frodo (and others I guess): the Big Bang theory only states a theory on how the universe was created; it does not in any way mention that it's the first thing that ever happened and in fact even acknowledges that something or someone must have been around before. Therefore the Big Bang theory does not counter religious arguments other than the stories of creation.

[Shrlurp]

where is god?
if he exists
he must be somewhere
I iz 'ere.

No I don't believe in God, only science :)

[Virgin Mary]

It's interesting that when scientists and thus the general public refused to believe it, the Catholic church accepted and supported the big bang theory (as well as evolution) and regarded it as the whole "let there be light" thing.

[Nereo]

I dunno

i dont think you can say there is or isnt

theres not any real proof

[-Xiangu-]

True but I don't beleive there is a God.

[N!ck]

The Big Bang works on the basis that there was some really almost impossibly small and dense particle containing all four fundamental forces as one which went "bang".

[-Xiangu-]

I agree with nick, I am getting a feeling you watched "steven Hawking - Master of the universe" too

Adding to my previous post. I beleive God or in other religions Gods is mans way of giving himself a purpose and to keep away from the idea of nothing more after death.

[GommeInc]

The Big Bang is contradictory. Its suppose to have created everything that exists, which presumes nothing was here before. If nothing was here before, how was anything created at all?
Same could be said about the God and the creation argument. What did he do before he created earth, where do dinosaurs come into it, who witnessed Adam and Eve, who was told about the earth being created? All those questions arise :P At the end of the day they're just stories, not meant to be taken as fact.

Anywho, FlyingJesus, people use Christianity vs. Atheism because they're the two major contributions to this idea, plus they have their well known theories.

[N!ck]

I agree with nick, I am getting a feeling you watched "steven Hawking - Master of the universe" too

Adding to my previous post. I beleive God or in other religions Gods is mans way of giving himself a purpose and to keep away from the idea of nothing more after death.

Yes I did, but I knew bits anyway.

[Virgin Mary]

I think Adam and Eve is just a metaphorical moral story about the start of life and basically lays down the whole "do as you're told or suffer the consequences" mood for the rest of the Bible.

The Big Bang works on the basis that there was some really almost impossibly small and dense particle containing all four fundamental forces as one which went "bang".
How very clever, though I fail to see how some apparently non-existent particles came together then blew up and made everything.

[-Xiangu-]

Yes It is apparently a super power which exploded into the big bang. Maybe it had been there within a void forever but then how do you class forever? What created the super power, where is this universe, what is outside our universe. HOW WAS ANYTHING CREATED?!


It makes you go mad, honestly

[Blue]

I like to think there isn't. I'd rather listen to science, rather then a 'Metaphorical' story. To be honest I don't really care.

[efq]

lol wish people would learn.

earth = planets coliding.
humans/animals/living things = Microorgasms.

But i'd be facinated to know how space was created :o

[N!ck]

How very clever, though I fail to see how some apparently non-existent particles came together then blew up and made everything.

Well that's the whole point. You find out and you'll make yourself a lot of money.

[efq]

id also like to believe there is heaven :( or afterlife

[Virgin Mary]

Well that's the whole point. You find out and you'll make yourself a lot of money.
How can I? I'm but a simple cosmetologist. Secondly I don't care about then because let's face it all that matters is me.

[Moh]

The Big Bang works on the basis that there was some really almost impossibly small and dense particle containing all four fundamental forces as one which went "bang".


How very clever, though I fail to see how some apparently non-existent particles came together then blew up and made everything.

but look at technology, LCD TVs/monitors, its amazing, as well as storage. yea I know its to do with binary etc.., but its the way it works.
If some one told us about this sort of thing without seeing it for my self, you wouldn't believe it.

So yea, I think the big band is possible, even though it just seams so impossible.

[GommeInc]

I think Adam and Eve is just a metaphorical moral story about the start of life and basically lays down the whole "do as you're told or suffer the consequences" mood for the rest of the Bible.
So how comes in church they lay it down as the beginning of man and follow it as if it's true? It teaches you not to steal, true, but they preach about how life first began with Adam and Eve.

What I don't like about religion is when, for example, someone accomplishes something in their life like wrote a famous novel and literally thank Jesus/God for making it for them. Give yourself some credit, you did it. Durr.

[Lee]

No - end of.
Big bang theory is the most realistic :).

I also agree with the "Big-Bang" Theory, and I also believe that outside this massive universe, there is another life form... May that be birds ect...

[Moh]

Its like horror stories, vampires and werewolf's.
Just because some one thought of them, it doesn't mean there real.

Same with some one who thought of god.

[Virgin Mary]

So how comes in church they lay it down as the beginning of man and follow it as if it's true? It teaches you not to steal, true, but they preach about how life first began with Adam and Eve.

I don't know what the prostitute church preaches, i simply see it as a metaphor for the first human beings

I also agree with the "Big-Bang" Theory, and I also believe that outside this massive universe, there is another life form... May that be birds ect...
It's common belief that aliens made people in ancient times believe in gods, that they saw the aliens in spaceships as gods in chariots. There's a verse in the bible where someone apparently encounters something described similarly to a UFO.

[Moh]

I don't know what the prostitute church preaches, i simply see it as a metaphor for the first human beings

It's common belief that aliens made people in ancient times believe in gods, that they saw the aliens in spaceships as gods in chariots. There's a verse in the bible where someone apparently encounters something described similarly to a UFO.
Or maybe, about god creating the world in 6 or 7 days was just a story told to there children before they went to bed.
Just like stories our parents used to tell us (Except ours were from books :p)

[Virgin Mary]

Or maybe, about god creating the world in 6 or 7 days was just a story told to there children before they went to bed.
Just like stories our parents used to tell us (Except ours were from books :p)
The word translated into days means periods of time and was basically listing events chronologically with no time span given.

[Moh]

The word translated into days means periods of time and was basically listing events chronologically with no time span given.
Yes, but when some one wrote it in the bible or what ever, where did they get that idea from? They could of got the idea from a story they were told when they were younger.

[Virgin Mary]

Yes, but when some one wrote it in the bible or what ever, where did they get that idea from? They could of got the idea from a story they were told when they were younger.
Probably though I'm thinking it's common sense. People from ancient civilisations were far more advanced than we were for many years and much of the Bible is historically accurate.

[Moh]

Probably though I'm thinking it's common sense. People from ancient civilisations were far more advanced than we were for many years and much of the Bible is historically accurate.
Yes, but how did they know exactly what happened?
And about Adam and Eve, incest much?

[Virgin Mary]

Yes, but how did they know exactly what happened?
And about Adam and Eve, incest much?
They probably made a good guess or just figured it out. Incest probably happened many times down human ancestry, the Bible probably talks about it so often because back then it probably wasn't a social taboo. The realisation that incest is creepy is only fairly recent but many cultures still practise it, e.g. Muslims.

[MR22]

If god would excist why didnt he ever show up after jezus was born.
Also there were many gods in or world history also the bible doasnt tell anything about dinosaurs the sttart with paradise and animals of or time.
But the fact is the first humans were monkies. Its all to old. We believe in it so we dont feel so alone on or big and scary universe.
Also the egypts had there gods and the romans there and the greek there its just all 1 and the same. there is no god and we were made out of dust from space its still in or dna

[MR22]

not realy the bible isnt that correct it says the first things on earth were humans and all animals we know today. But the bible doasnt say anything about dinos. Becouse the people that made the bible didnt know the excisted. Also behind or ears there are signs of kieuws stuff that fish have to. That means we came out of the sea. (all creatures came out of sea)

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[-Xiangu-]

I don't know what the prostitute church preaches, i simply see it as a metaphor for the first human beings

It's common belief that aliens made people in ancient times believe in gods, that they saw the aliens in spaceships as gods in chariots. There's a verse in the bible where someone apparently encounters something described similarly to a UFO.


Or maybe youve been watching too much "Alien vs Predator"

[Virgin Mary]

Or maybe youve been watching too much "Alien vs Predator"
http://www.bibleufo.com/index.htm
Or not.

[-Xiangu-]

ah at least you proved your theory :)

[Premiums]

I agree.

I believe there is a God. I'm Christian.

I'm Christian but I don't believe in god. what does that make me? LOL

[Jord]

Soz for bump if i have but

If you dont belive in god what about Jesus? how did he heal the sick make 1 fish and 1 bread into 100's too feed everybody?

[Frodo13.]

Same could be said about the God and the creation argument. What did he do before he created earth, where do dinosaurs come into it, who witnessed Adam and Eve, who was told about the earth being created? All those questions arise :P At the end of the day they're just stories, not meant to be taken as fact.

Anywho, FlyingJesus, people use Christianity vs. Atheism because they're the two major contributions to this idea, plus they have their well known theories.

Dinosaurs could of been created by God. Adam and Eve had children, who had children with each other etc. I do believe in the incest theory, I mean then there would be nobody to tell them incest was wrong. Obviously, the story of how the Earth was created would be passed down through the generations. Adam and Eve would both know what happened.

[shizzle]

Yes, i believe there is a God.

[GommeInc]

Dinosaurs could of been created by God. Adam and Eve had children, who had children with each other etc. I do believe in the incest theory, I mean then there would be nobody to tell them incest was wrong. Obviously, the story of how the Earth was created would be passed down through the generations. Adam and Eve would both know what happened.
No they wouldn't, they weren't around when the earth was created. The bible depicts two stories. The 7 day story and the Adam and Eve story. One says God created man to look after the animals and the world while the other says God created a man and then created a man from a woman. And if God created the dinosaurs, why didn't one of the books in the bible tell about them? They seem to tell other things about the earth God created. And the way you said 'could' of created is an invalid answer. It's either he did or didn't. If he didn't, he doesn't exist. If he did, he exists.

[camera]

yeah sure. just nt 100% thats all.

[Frodo13.]

No they wouldn't, they weren't around when the earth was created. The bible depicts two stories. The 7 day story and the Adam and Eve story. One says God created man to look after the animals and the world while the other says God created a man and then created a man from a woman. And if God created the dinosaurs, why didn't one of the books in the bible tell about them? They seem to tell other things about the earth God created. And the way you said 'could' of created is an invalid answer. It's either he did or didn't. If he didn't, he doesn't exist. If he did, he exists.

I don't think the animal 'Dog' is in the Bible either, but you don't seem to pick up on things like that. I put 'could' because I'm not 100% sure, but many arguments can be reversed by religion, just as many religious arguments can be counterd by science. I remain open minded about things :)

[FlyingJesus]

I'm Christian but I don't believe in god. what does that make me? LOL

An idiot who isn't a Christian at all. Believing in God is something of a prerequisite for being a Christian.

Also on the dinosaur note it never says what animals were created at all, but the chronology is correct (sea creatures - birds - land animals - man)

[GommeInc]

I don't think the animal 'Dog' is in the Bible either, but you don't seem to pick up on things like that. I put 'could' because I'm not 100% sure, but many arguments can be reversed by religion, just as many religious arguments can be counterd by science. I remain open minded about things :)
I take the same stance. Religion is interesting, but I wouldn't strictly follow it word for word :)

[laffin]

I'm quite open to religous believes but I don't believe there is a God. If there is a God I don't like him.

[Abbie.]

OOOOK

the big bang theory

when God created the earth, there was a big bang right?

and 7 days, each day could have been over a lot longer time period, if u no wot i mean


and if God wanted to create dinosaurs, who cares


LOOOOOOL OMG i dont no if i believe in god, wot i just said sounds so funny

'HI IM GOD IM JUST CREATIN A WEE TIRYANASAURUS REX HERE, BRB'

[Cypher-]

I believe theres something out there more diverse complicated and intelligent than human's and I suppose if God is the term thats being used then yes I believe in God but as for the bible, Its simply an advanced form of scrolls passed down through the ages, and people can interpret what they say in different ways, eg the same way if you are in a psychiatrists you interpret what the ink blots are.

[Technologic]

I don't :]

[-Xiangu-]

In my opinion the bible is an old timed novel :).

[Clowgon]

You are a bad Christian... Do not judge others is another rule the bible and even any form of Christianity for that matter teaches "/ "Thou shalt not bear false witness of thy neightbour." Learn it from thy God, or burn in hell for going against your Lord.

I work at a church and go each week, I know this sort of thing and a meer peasant like you IS going to hell. Although I am not a Christian myself, so I'll meet you there ;)

Also using the word 'hell' is blaspheming and even suggesting you can make someone go to hell makes you seem like you have the power to do so. Another thing you're going to hell for. Presenting yourself as the good Lord. See you in hell my friend :D

There you go Judging me again. You work in god's House and you speak like that? Then my friend GL as you will truly truly need it.

[Karma]

Hindu/Swaminarayan all the way! Karma & Dharma all the way!

[Zak]

No I do not, I could say why but most moderators would probably infract me for some sad reason.

[Dan2nd]

No - end of.
Big bang theory is the most realistic :).

What triggered the big ban - I believe god did


Oh no. I'm going to hell. ><
If there was a god he would understand my way of thinking and not everyone's religous you know? Just because you do we don't have to mate ;).

Yes God would understand the way you think but as you have not excepted him or Jesus christ into your life you would go to hell.


Im an atheist.

No proof - no god. Sorry.

It's narrow minded people like you who really wind me up of course theres no proof of God if we had proof of his existance we wouldn't call the christian religion a faith would we? and if you can provide me any sensible evidence God does not exist I'll be happy to have a look at it otherwise I'd ask you to keep an open mind about things :)


No. There is no 'God', there is no 'Deity'.

If thats your opinion fair enough but it would have been nice if you had anything else to back it up


There is hard evidence that the big bang happened. Adam and Eve is a story.

The Bible was written hundreds of years ago so lets face it, it's not going to mention things discovered after it was written.

I am a christian I do not beleive the Bible was written by God or in his words it was written by normal people like you and me. There are so many silly people (theists and Atheists) who think it is supposed to be taken literally and followed like a manuel but I don't think it is.


Edit: I also think people miss understand heaven and hell I don't think heaven is up in the cloads with golden gates etc and hell is not full of fire etc etc they are in fact exactly the same the only diffirence being that hell is full of selfishness and hatered while Heaven is full of generosity and love

[-Xiangu-]

I think If God apparently loves us all then he would let us all into heaven. Therefore I have no worries at all!

wouldn't it be annoying if that were true though, christians beleiving in a god all their life and then when you are in heaven you see someone there that was an athiest. I bet it would make you so annoyed :D

[Technologic]

I'm agnostic. when jesus appears i'll believe i god

[Ezzie.]

I'm agnostic.. after losing my brother and dad [whos anniversary is tonight- the irony >_>] I just cannot fully believe in a "merciful" God to be honest.

[-Soph-]

No I don't, scientific evidence doesn't support it.

We had god to guide us before when science wasn't accepted, now that it is.. it only seems right to follow it.

[Dan2nd]

I think If God apparently loves us all then he would let us all into heaven. Therefore I have no worries at all!

wouldn't it be annoying if that were true though, christians beleiving in a god all their life and then when you are in heaven you see someone there that was an athiest. I bet it would make you so annoyed :D

God does love us! He loves us enough to give us freewill thats why you are able to choose if you except God as part of your life. If you except God and his only Son Jesus christ you will be welcomed into Heaven if you don't you go to hell but like I said before there is little diffirence between the two Hell is just full of selfishness and hate while Heaven is full of Genorosity and Love

[FlyingJesus]

I had a discussion with my ex last night concerning religion, if on monday this discussion's still going I'll take some extracts from the chatlog but atm I'm at my dad's

[Hushie]

Yes or else the world wouldnt of been made and we wouldnt be here right now..



the world

Adam eve

the galaxy.


Yes, there is, end of.


You said it so right god sake people get it into your thick skull's HOW WAS THE WORLD MADE THEN?



Some of those quotes are really funny, not backed up with anything.




How very clever, though I fail to see how some apparently non-existent particles came together then blew up and made everything.

Particles can just appear out of nowhere and disappear again. ;) Also they can be in two places at once which makes it a lot more believable.

Religion has been around for many years and is just there to keep people under control. Also there is many different religions, how can they all be true?

About the bible:
Yes, Jesus did exist but guess what? He was African. So why do Christians depict him as a white man?

And the 10 commandments, yes Moses did right them. But not under instruction of God. Under Instruction of the King. He wanted him to write them so that he could keep his people under control, thats why moses didn't want anyone else to come up to the mountain, because he was faking it.

Everything here is EVIDENCE not rumors. You can check around on the internet if you want.

[Dan2nd]

About the bible:
Yes, Jesus did exist but guess what? He was African. So why do Christians depict him as a white man?



That is un true in the Uk yes we think of Jesus as a white man because the majority of the population is white. I think you'll find that in other parts of the world Jesus is also seen as a black man and sometimes asian its all to do with culture..

[Hushie]

That is un true in the Uk yes we think of Jesus as a white man because the majority of the population is white. I think you'll find that in other parts of the world Jesus is also seen as a black man and sometimes asian its all to do with culture..

Yes i said christians not ALL christians. But he was african.

[Dan2nd]

erm ok... I don't understand why Jesus being african is an issue

[Swearwolf]

its all crap imo. if you believe in god in the 21st century, then i dno where you've been

[Blue]

its all crap imo. if you believe in god in the 21st century, then i dno where you've been

Religious schools, religious family. Stupid Re lessons :(

[Dan2nd]

its all crap imo. if you believe in god in the 21st century, then i dno where you've been

Would you like to expand on that statement? :)
What about the 21st centery should cause thousands of people to give up their faith?

[Hushie]

erm ok... I don't understand why Jesus being african is an issue

Because if they can't even get his ethnicity right then why should we believe that they have all the other stuff right, like he can perform miracles?

If you get what I'm saying.

Also I think religion is a terrible thing since it starts the majority of wars.

[Dan2nd]

Because if they can't even get his ethnicity right then why should we believe that they have all the other stuff right, like he can perform miracles?

If you get what I'm saying.

Also I think religion is a terrible thing since it starts the majority of wars.

Why should his ethnicity matter? Like I said before no one has got his nationality wrong they just see Jesus in the way they want to and as alot of people beleve he's God in the form of a human why should that matter =l. I actually don't beleve the bible was written in Gods words I think it was written by normal people like you and me.

and religion doens't cause wars greedy polititions do :)

[Hushie]

Why should his ethnicity matter? Like I said before no one has got his nationality wrong they just see Jesus in the way they want to and as alot of people beleve he's God in the form of a human why should that matter =l. I actually don't beleve the bible was written in Gods words I think it was written by normal people like you and me.

and religion doens't cause wars greedy polititions do :)

Actually some are.

TWO recent wars that was caused by religion:
WW1
WW2

I suppose you could say it was also racism but some of it was also religious. Hitler wanted to wipe out all the Jewish people. So people who believed in Judaism. Also many of historical wars were caused by religion.

[GommeInc]

Did George Bush say he went to war because God told him or something? He mentions God in a few speeches too... Also, the bible was written by normal people. Matthew, Mark, Luke and John were normal people and one of the books (Colossians or Corinthians) was written by Paul, who was the man who was blind until God cured him. He was called Saul before :)

The film 'Elizabeth: The Golden Age' pictures the war against Catholics and the Church of England. That's another war that was heavily involved with religion.

[FlyingJesus]

Actually some are.

TWO recent wars that was caused by religion:
WW1
WW2

I suppose you could say it was also racism but some of it was also religious. Hitler wanted to wipe out all the Jewish people. So people who believed in Judaism. Also many of historical wars were caused by religion.

WHAT lol WWI was caused by an assassination and was going to happen anyway due to a massive buildup of powers - religion was in no way involved. Also Hitler didn't declare war on Jews, he declared war on neighbouring countries, again nothing to do with religion.

[Hushie]

WHAT lol WWI was caused by an assassination and was going to happen anyway due to a massive buildup of powers - religion was in no way involved. Also Hitler didn't declare war on Jews, he declared war on neighbouring countries, again nothing to do with religion.

Oh sorry, I completely forgot there was no concentration camps. :eusa_clap

[-Xiangu-]

The war was not based on the genocide of Jews

[Mikay]

pointless thread heres your answer

'the questions is not is there a god? its ismply live your life in hope, hoping there is somthing out there but untill you can do that you wont achive true peace and if theres not you havent wasted you time as your have the happy memories hoping and if there is and u dnt beleive ur screwed'

[c[__]]

I think i'm God.

[Thr@ne]

Haha. no way.

[Hushie]

The war was not based on the genocide of Jews

It was a main factor though.

[Nain]

do i believe in God?
Nope..
the world was created my a meteor thing or comet.. we were made because a few monkeys and apes had baby's (us)

[Andys]

I dont.
I believe in the big bang and the evolution theory.

[Frodo13.]

It was a main factor though.

Lol at your lack of knowledge - The Allies had no idea about the camps untill the war finished.

[Hushie]

Lol at your lack of knowledge - The Allies had no idea about the camps untill the war finished.
Hitler believed that the germans were the master race and wanted to wipe out all other races, especially the jews and the polish.

And actually they did know about them, but they were ashamed of telling people that they had known for a long time.

LMAO, you say I have lack of knowledge. When it is a well known fact that the genocide of the jews brought many countries into the wa.

[Mr.Sam]

ww2 started because of two main factors:

Nazi Germany had provided support for the Austrian National Socialist Party (Austrian Nazi Party) in its bid to seize power from Austria's Austrofascist leadership.

and

The Marco Polo Bridge Incident, which was a battle between the Republic of China's National Revolutionary Army and the Empire of Japan's Imperial Japanese Army, marking the beginning of the Second Sino-Japanese War (1937-1945). The marble bridge itself, Lugouqiao, is an architectural work of eleven arches, restored by the Kangxi Emperor



Actually some are.

TWO recent wars that was caused by religion:
WW1
WW2

I suppose you could say it was also racism but some of it was also religious. Hitler wanted to wipe out all the Jewish people. So people who believed in Judaism. Also many of historical wars were caused by religion.

Has there ever been proof of a god? no.
Is there evidence of the big bang theory? yes

[Hushie]

ww2 started because of two main factors:

Nazi Germany had provided support for the Austrian National Socialist Party (Austrian Nazi Party) in its bid to seize power from Austria's Austrofascist leadership.

and

The Marco Polo Bridge Incident, which was a battle between the Republic of China's National Revolutionary Army and the Empire of Japan's Imperial Japanese Army, marking the beginning of the Second Sino-Japanese War (1937-1945). The marble bridge itself, Lugouqiao, is an architectural work of eleven arches, restored by the Kangxi Emperor


Has there ever been proof of god? no.
Is there evidence of the big bang theory? yes


I know but it was still a factor. Anyway, Muslim extrremeists are obviously the latest 'war' caused by religion.

[Mr.Sam]

Wow you believe so much news crap.

Only a small minority of Muslims are extremists - 99% don't condemn violence at all.
You can't stereotype a whole group of people based on a few idiots.


I know but it was still a factor. Anyway, Muslim extrremeists are obviously the latest 'war' caused by religion.

[Hushie]

Wow you believe so much news crap.

Only a small minority of Muslims are extremists - 99% don't condemn violence at all.
You can't stereotype a whole group of people based on a few idiots.

:S How is that saying that?

I said Muslim EXTREMEISTS. There's no denying that Al Quaeda (That how you spell it?) are muslim extremeists. I'm in no way sayign that all muslims condole violence.


Infact, your the one saying that, since only 1% according to you CONDEMN violence.

;)

[Swearwolf]

Would you like to expand on that statement? :)
What about the 21st centery should cause thousands of people to give up their faith?

na dont mean give up your faith, just think about it
theres so much better explanations and stop limiting your imagination and perception of the world

[MR22]

If the adam and eva story was true, we all would be family. I think that in some way we are all familie. Theres a studie in dna. The follow the path that people took. Also the sun was made of dust. At some point there was so mutch of this energetic dust that it started to burn. All this power and explosions created earth. and it wasnt made in 7 days i can assure you that. The 7 days came from the roman gods. Friday is a roman god freia.
God of love. The bible just copied everything from the romans. Romans copied it if the greece. Greece copied it from the egyptians. so the best story we can say is. The gods of the egypt people are the best. There statues are still there. The are mutch older. Who are we to decide.
Afcourse you can believe in the all kinds of gods or mohammed or jezus.
Remember nowan was holly. Not even some of the holly popes. There was a pope 14 years old. The only thing he did was having sex and drinking wine. (Cant blame him) The bible sas that a angel would come on down to the person elected to be a pope and the angel will tell him what to do. Well i think gabriel forgoten about loads of the popes becouse loads of em were criminails and misused there powers. RELIGION DEVIDES,WE ONLY NEED TO BELIEVE IN OURSELFS AND IN OTHER PEOPLE!!! NOT IN THINGS THAT ARENT THERE.

[Hushie]

Because if they can't even get his ethnicity right then why should we believe that they have all the other stuff right, like he can perform miracles?

If you get what I'm saying.



Lol, minus rep in a debate? Pathetic TBH. Minus repping someone for getting their point accross.

Like I care what it says in the bible. He was African end of.

It's funny how the town of Bethlehem was supposedly on the border of Africa and Asia. So what your saying about how he's not African because he was born in Bethlehem, let's just say your wrong ;)

[Virgin Mary]

If the adam and eva story was true, we all would be family. I think that in some way we are all familie. Theres a studie in dna. The follow the path that people took. Also the sun was made of dust. At some point there was so mutch of this energetic dust that it started to burn. All this power and explosions created earth. and it wasnt made in 7 days i can assure you that. The 7 days came from the roman gods. Friday is a roman god freia.
God of love. The bible just copied everything from the romans. Romans copied it if the greece. Greece copied it from the egyptians. so the best story we can say is. The gods of the egypt people are the best. There statues are still there. The are mutch older. Who are we to decide.
Afcourse you can believe in the all kinds of gods or mohammed or jezus.
Remember nowan was holly. Not even some of the holly popes. There was a pope 14 years old. The only thing he did was having sex and drinking wine. (Cant blame him) The bible sas that a angel would come on down to the person elected to be a pope and the angel will tell him what to do. Well i think gabriel forgoten about loads of the popes becouse loads of em were criminails and misused there powers. RELIGION DEVIDES,WE ONLY NEED TO BELIEVE IN OURSELFS AND IN OTHER PEOPLE!!! NOT IN THINGS THAT ARENT THERE.
Everything is related, alive or not. Whatever created us, we all came from the same thing.

Lol, minus rep in a debate? Pathetic TBH. Minus repping someone for getting their point accross.

Like I care what it says in the bible. He was African end of.

It's funny how the town of Bethlehem was supposedly on the border of Africa and Asia. So what your saying about how he's not African because he was born in Bethlehem, let's just say your wrong ;)
The thread is asking whether there is a god, i.e. a creator of the universe, not whether religion is right or not.

[Hushie]

Everything is related, alive or not. Whatever created us, we all came from the same thing.

The thread is asking whether there is a god, i.e. a creator of the universe, not whether religion is right or not.

Yes but that is why I don't believe there is a god.

[Frodo13.]

Hitler believed that the germans were the master race and wanted to wipe out all other races, especially the jews and the polish.

And actually they did know about them, but they were ashamed of telling people that they had known for a long time.

LMAO, you say I have lack of knowledge. When it is a well known fact that the genocide of the jews brought many countries into the wa.


The 'Final Solution' didn't start untill 1942 (2 years after WWII started)

[Hushie]

The 'Final Solution' didn't start untill 1942 (2 years after WWII started)

I know and it brought many countries into the war.

I honestly don't care anymore, lets just stop arguing.

[FlyingJesus]

Like I care what it says in the bible. He was African end of.


Yes but that is why I don't believe there is a god.

So you don't believe that ANY gods could possibly exist just because in Christianity (just one of many religions) Jesus is depicted as a white man in the West? Also he'd be Arabic not African anyway, just to make that clear.

[Hushie]

So you don't believe that ANY gods could possibly exist just because in Christianity (just one of many religions) Jesus is depicted as a white man in the West? Also he'd be Arabic not African anyway, just to make that clear.

The man called Jesus that existed was AFRICAN. No-one is certain that he was actually born in Bethlehem.

And I don't believe there is any gods, and the reason I was on about Christianity is because most of the people on here were too.

[ActualFacts]

Right, I dont know what to believe.

Lets start with the big bang.

1) What created the big bang.
2) what created that.

now god.

1) what created he/she.
2) where is he or she.

[Ezzie.]

The universe is a god technically, as it has granted us life and has a near infinite/definite infinite age.

But yea

[Daphne,]

Definitely not, and I definitely don't like the idea of Christianity... especially the fundamentalists who believe that they're better than everyone.
I hate it how most are so narrow-minded, the minute you start to discuss other religions their eyes glaze over and their mind switches off.

Look back to the 1500s, where all the whole system was corrupt. I did an assignment on this and I discovered many things about those ages. One was that there was this larger-than-life list of "sins" and if you committed one of these "sins" you were forced to pay a fee (money, usually) and if you didn't, you were told that you were going to burn in the fiery pits of hell and suffer for all eternity.
Meanwhile, pedophilic priests were raking up the cash and having mass-orgies.
What sort have "God" would have allowed their main representatives to carry on in such a way and rob his people?

[Kallot]

Heres some proof of god from family guys point of view ;

http://www.boreme.com/boreme/funny-2007/fg-christianity-p1.php

[FlyingJesus]

Definitely not, and I definitely don't like the idea of Christianity... especially the fundamentalists who believe that they're better than everyone.
I hate it how most are so narrow-minded, the minute you start to discuss other religions their eyes glaze over and their mind switches off.

They're far less annoying than fundamentalist atheists who have a go at Christianity and don't realise they're being hypocritical.

[-Xiangu-]

No, I do not beleive in god.

I beleive in Steven Hawking and all the other great scientists

[Sabbath]

Yeah, I do. I strongly believe science and religion and entertwined. I am not quite a Christian, I am studying it, and thinking about it. I am not very commited to it yet, it is quite a big thing. So I would say, yes, but I am not quite exactly sure of my beliefs.

[Ezzie.]

They're far less annoying than fundamentalist atheists who have a go at Christianity and don't realise they're being hypocritical.

lol ,I noticed that too ;D

"no defenitely not- i can't believe how they're so narrow minded"

:eusa_whis:eusa_clap:eusa_wall:rolleyes:

[Sabbath]

Definitely not, and I definitely don't like the idea of Christianity... especially the fundamentalists who believe that they're better than everyone.
I hate it how most are so narrow-minded, the minute you start to discuss other religions their eyes glaze over and their mind switches off.

Look back to the 1500s, where all the whole system was corrupt. I did an assignment on this and I discovered many things about those ages. One was that there was this larger-than-life list of "sins" and if you committed one of these "sins" you were forced to pay a fee (money, usually) and if you didn't, you were told that you were going to burn in the fiery pits of hell and suffer for all eternity.
Meanwhile, pedophilic priests were raking up the cash and having mass-orgies.
What sort have "God" would have allowed their main representatives to carry on in such a way and rob his people?


I like how you say most, when all the christians I know are actually very tolerant, more tolerant then atheists like you who are just like "GO READ YOUR BIBLE, ******!". Your thinking of the catholic church from the 1500s, Im guessing you never heard of the Reformation, when the majority left the church became Protestants. Lurk moar. Its not Christianity that is intolerant, it is you.

[Sabbath]

EDIT: Double post

[ToxicPaddy]

Yea of course its true, I read it in a book :)

Lol in all seriousness I do believe in it, I'm Catholic

[Xeck]

I don't rule out the chance of there being a god completely [I'm not an atheist and I'm open to anyone believing what they want, except in extreme cases], but I don't believe in one. I just don't understand why, if there is a god, he would allow so many terrible things to happen in the world. Why would newborn babies die hours after birth while criminals can live to 100? Why would there even exist problems like disease? There's so many more examples that I wont go into but basically I'm not gonna devote faith into a god when things like this can occur, and also something that hasn't been proved.

[Coheed&Cambria]

No i don't belive in god. For the simple reason, the only evidence we have is a few books that isn't very belivable, and most chances was made up so that in the future (now) everybody would be equal, and praise and worship the same "god". When you think about it, its actully kind of communist!

[Energizer]

no i don't believe in god because of all world hunger/earthquakes/tsunamis and crap. god's sposed to be good aint he? if it exists then these things wouldn't exist imo.