france vs england

[carrick]

i think rio will lead england to a 2-0 victory

rooney x1
rio x1

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[Smiddy]

Beckham is starting tonight


James
Brown - Rio - Terry - A Cole
Beckham - Hargreaves - Barry - J Cole
Gerard
Rooney

2 holding midfielders :S

[StefanCampbell]

i dout those 2 will start in the middle of the field, looks highly unbalanced. Alltho they can both whack a ball.

[Browney]

Quite a few United players then? 4 out of 11. And 3 Chelsea players. I think it was a good decision at the back to have defenders that know how each other play though.

[StefanCampbell]

oh i didn't see gerrard in the setup, looks liek a 4-5-1, looks like a good formation too me. He's using a formation which suites gerrard most which is the best move in my opinion as hes our best player.

[Browney]

oh i didn't see gerrard in the setup, looks liek a 4-5-1, looks like a good formation too me. He's using a formation which suites gerrard most which is the best move in my opinion as hes our best player.

Really? Gerard is the best? Rooney gives the spark to any team, Brown and Rio, with United, have only let in 15 goals this season I think, we all know Beckham's class of free kicks and crosses and J Cole was fantastic last England match. I mean, he might be the best but theres so much great talent to contend with.

[Immenseman]

I see a 1-0 win for England with Gerrard scoring early and then England sit back.

[StefanCampbell]

how they play for there clubs is far different then how they play for england.

[Browney]

how they play for there clubs is far different then how they play for england.

I was going on their international performances except the defense obviously. Like I said, J Cole was great setting up a goal last match, Beckham has scored fantastic last minute match-winning free kicks and Rooney was unlucky not to score last match.

[Minstrels]

Were going to die on the right with Brown playing there.

[bizzle]

Is this on sky sports?

[Browney]

Is this on sky sports?

Yeah SS1. Its on now. Not kicked off yet though.

[bizzle]

gonna tune into then :)

[Aflux]

It's a German referee - we've lost.

sop://202.190.75.149:3912/3606

[Tristan]

Lost 1-0 to a Ribery penalty.
James knocked down Anelka in the Penalty Area.
For some reason, memories of the last match that we played against France keeps coming up in my mind and they are rather similar to tonight's match... :S
Lol.

[Nereo]

It seems likely that capello hasn made any real difference as this is the kinda performance and result I would expect from any england side

[carrick]

crowd were fantastic tho

[Jam]

Bah, it was inevitable, its england for crying out loud.

[Wootzeh]

It wasn't worth watching that pile of piss. The players dont seem proud to be playing for their country, well other than Beckham.

[Browney]

crowd were fantastic tho

They were amazing. Outsung them all match until the French got upset we wouldn't join in their little Mexican wave.

[carrick]

hmm i dont see how it was a bad performance

we were beaten by a penalty

we were playing away from home

france hardly created any chances

we just lacked in the final 3rd

good performance imo

[Browney]

hmm i dont see how it was a bad performance

we were beaten by a penalty

we were playing away from home

france hardly created any chances

we just lacked in the final 3rd

good performance imo

You are talking alot of sense tonight. My opinions entirely. To hold the World Cup runner ups to 1-0 is impressive. And like you said, they never even scored from open play, they scored from a penalty. We came out second half much stronger and made some better penetration.

[StefanCampbell]

Can't wait till Richards is back to take right back, or gary neville, brown is CRAP imo.

[Minstrels]

:D:P:):eusa_clap:eusa_danc;)

YES. Always look on the bright side yeah? THANK YOU JAMES. THANK YOU BROWN. Those two have just made Richards and Harts places permed. James, tut tut, what were you thinking? Deary me, maybe you could er... watch how a pro does it when Hart is in net next? Oh and Brown... nice kick of the air yeah? It was certainly a... 'LOOKZ @ MEH! I CAN KIKZ DA AIRZ!!!111! -KAPOWWW-' moment, shame that was your last England cap unless Micah gets injured though eh?

[Smiddy]

I don't think Joe Hart will get a call-up ahead of players like Carson, Robinson, Green, Kirkland and Foster. James isn't a bad player, he was just a bit slow in that tackle.

Didn't see the second half, the first was enough to stop me watching.
Rooney can't do by himself at the front, he's a forward, not an out & out striker.

[Aflux]

I don't think Joe Hart will get a call-up ahead of players like Carson, Robinson, Green, Kirkland and Foster. James isn't a bad player, he was just a bit slow in that tackle.

Didn't see the second half, the first was enough to stop me watching.
Rooney can't do by himself at the front, he's a forward, not an out & out striker.
England have no other strikers.

[Smiddy]

England have no other strikers.
I would be playing Darren Bent or Jermaine Defoe.

[Aflux]

I would be playing Darren Bent or Jermaine Defoe.
Like I said.

[Smiddy]

Like I said.
Defoe, 6 goals in 6 starts, better record that any English striker in the premiership at the moment.
Bent is just good but doesn't get a chance in the spurs squad.

[Minstrels]

Like I said.
Sturridge anyone? :P:D:P

[Aflux]

Defoe, 6 goals in 6 starts, better record that any English striker in the premiership at the moment.
Bent is just good but doesn't get a chance in the spurs squad.
Slow down.

There are good, English strikers in the Premierleague, but in internationals it's a different story - as shown by many, many players.

[Xeck]

Lost 1-0 to a Ribery penalty.
James knocked down Anelka in the Penalty Area.
For some reason, memories of the last match that we played against France keeps coming up in my mind and they are rather similar to tonight's match... :S
Lol.

We played so much better in that game and didn't deserve to lose. :[ I remember it well, was so annoying to lose 2-1 with two really late goals. Today's game was poor. A few nice moves here and there was about it.

[Smiddy]

Slow down.

There are good, English strikers in the Premierleague, but in internationals it's a different story - as shown by many, many players.
This is true, but this is because England is impatient.
We want results straight away. We think because we have the premiership, our international players can adjust to playing with other premiership players at the drop of a hat.
If we give players time to develop into a role, they will get goals. If you just include 1 player every 4 matches (random example) they will not enjoy adapting to it every time.

[Aflux]

Including every single top player in every position is a bad thing to do - this is what England do.

If you've seen the new look Brazil side you'll know what I'm talking about.

[carrick]

should be playing a 4-4-2

owen rooney
j cole gerrard carrick beckham/bentley
a cole rio terry wesley brown / g neville
foster/james

[Ardemax]

So did England lose 1-0?

I don't have Sky so I can't watch :(

[Aflux]

should be playing a 4-4-2

owen rooney
j cole gerrard carrick beckham/bentley
a cole rio terry wesley brown / g neville
foster/james



James

Richards Terry Ferdinand A.Cole

Gerrard Barry
BentleyadjasudhaisuduiaasdabisiuJ Cole

Rooney Nugent

[StefanCampbell]

Including every single top player in every position is a bad thing to do - this is what England do.

If you've seen the new look Brazil side you'll know what I'm talking about.

i understand what you saying but england don't have those other players, and if they did they wudnt be too good.

Lol@the nugent bit, it should be crouch or owen instead of him.

[carrick]

wow nugent word class

[Bojangles]

Hart will stay for the u21's i think.

[Aflux]

We have no strikers.

[Bojangles]

Aflux, be quiet, we have pleanty.

[Rarelime]

I thought England were dull, as usual. Imo Capello should drop the whole holding midfielder thing, it creates more problems than its worth. But I doubt that will happen because Capello uses defensive style tactics.

[-Undiscovered]

Apprently it was a well boring match lol. Glad i didn't watch it. :D

[Aflux]

Aflux, be quiet, we have pleanty.


Don't be so ignorant.

We don't.

Plus, it's plenty, not 'pleanty'.

[Minstrels]

Hart


Richards Terry Ferdinand Ball


Hargreaves

Bentley J Cole


Gerrard


Rooney I Miller



I'm not saying use that in competitive matches however why not try it in the next friendly?

[Aflux]

Hart

Richards Terry Ferdinand Ball

Hargreaves

Bentley J Cole


Gerrard

Rooney I Miller



I'm not saying use that in competitive matches however why not try it in the next friendly?



You can't half tell you're a Man City fan.

[Minstrels]

You can't half tell you're a Man City fan.
Come on... you can't say Ball has been crap. :eusa_clap

[StefanCampbell]

Never heard of ball, and miller plays for west brom and since im a woevs fan thats a big nono, that team would get killed tbh.

[Minstrels]

Never heard of ball, and miller plays for west brom and since im a woevs fan thats a big nono, that team would get killed tbh.
Never heard of Ball? Hmm OK then. Keeps Ronaldo quite in the Manchester derbys. And you can't comment on Miller seems as your a Wolves fan... :rolleyes:

[StefanCampbell]

ball is crap yes ive heard of him ? hes nothing compared to wayne bridge/a cole? :S

[Minstrels]

ball is crap yes ive heard of him ? hes nothing compared to wayne bridge/a cole? :S
Which is why I said try it in a friendly? Also when was the last time Cole kept Ronaldo quite? That's a very hard job to do (and that's coming from a City fan... complementing Ronaldo... never thought I'd see the day).

[StefanCampbell]

he kept ronaldo quiet so what? thats club football not country, + its not likely were going to bump into portugual again, u cant rate one player on 2 performances for his club against your biggest rivals.

[Minstrels]

he kept ronaldo quiet so what? thats club football not country, + its not likely were going to bump into portugual again, u cant rate one player on 2 performances for his club against your biggest rivals.
Look at the highlights of City please, come back when you've watched Ball. He's played for us once, why not again?

[Aflux]

In that case Matty;


Butcher
J.Hoyte Terry Ferdinand G.Hoyte
Walcott Lansbury Barry J.Cole
Murphy Rooney

[Minstrels]

In that case Matty;


Butcher
J.Hoyte Terry Ferdinand G.Hoyte
Walcott Lansbury Barry J.Cole
Murphy Rooney


Incorrect...
Foster

G.Neville Ferdinand Brown P.Neville
Beckham Carrick Barton Downing
Rooney Smith

[StefanCampbell]

no aflux is actually right on this accasion, what you've said counts for what he said too :rolleyes:


my team:

Hart/James
Richards/G.Neville, Ferdinand, Terry(C), A.Cole/Bridge
Lennon/Bentley, Gerrard, Hargreaves/Barry, J.Cole/Downing
Rooney, Crouch/Defoe/Owen.

Players without the /'s are certains, but as you can see capello has A LOT to play with + more.

[StefanCampbell]

couldn't edit but i missed out tht goaly called luke steel who playd for someone against man u think it was, and he played awsome.

[carrick]

yeh ball kept ronald quiet

just gave a penalty away against him because he couldnt handle his skill and pace ;)

[shizzle]

I think it will be 2-0 to england. Some feeling.

[carrick]

I think it will be 2-0 to england. Some feeling.
idiot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:eusa_wall:eusa_wall:eusa_whis

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[Rarelime]

I would have:


Robinson
G.Neville/Richards, Ferdinand, Woodgate, Bridge
Bentley, Gerrard/Jenas, Hargreaves, J.Cole
Owen, Defoe/Bent

GK - Robinson - He's been our #1 for a few years, sure he isn't the most consistent of goalies but he's still capable of top quality saves and performances.

RB - Neville or Richards - I would have to go with Richards over Neville due to fitness issues, but both are way better right backs than wes brown for sure.

DC - Ferdinand and Woodgate - Both have been solid defenders for their clubs during the season, especially Woodgate since moving to Spurs. I could see this as a possible future partnership.

LB - Bridge - When he plays for Chelsea he has been more effective than Ashley Cole, plus he's not as hot tempered as Cole.

MR - Bentley - You would have to be mad not to include him, due to recent performances for Blackburn. I can see him being a permanent fixture on the right side when Beckham retires.

MC - Gerrard or Jenas and Hargreaves - Don't get me wrong but Gerrard is top quality player but he just doesn't do much when playing in England shirt. You never see the same player you would see for Liverpool. However, Jenas this season has been in the form of his life and deserves England recognition.

Hargreaves, easily has been our most consistent player since the world cup and euro qualifiers.

ML - J.Cole - Easily the best left sided midfielder we have.

FC - Owen and Defoe or Bent - When Owen is on his game and is at full fitness he is a decent striker. Hard decision between Defoe and Bent because they are both similar strikers, like to go forward and exploit defenses. I would choose Defoe over Bent due to him getting matches.

No Rooney? - I'll explain that. You cannot question his work rate and effort levels but same as Gerrard, he does not repeat the same form at country level as he does for his club. Often when he plays he usually gets isolated on his own, which leads to him getting frustrated and his temper kicks in. Normally ending in him making silly tackles and arguing with officials, then getting sent off.

[Minstrels]

I think it will be 2-0 to england. Some feeling.
Get out...

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[StefanCampbell]

ud rele leave terry and rooney out? two of our best performing players? :S

[Aflux]

I would have:


Robinson
G.Neville/Richards, Ferdinand, Woodgate, Bridge
Bentley, Gerrard/Jenas, Hargreaves, J.Cole
Owen, Defoe/Bent

GK - Robinson - He's been our #1 for a few years, sure he isn't the most consistent of goalies but he's still capable of top quality saves and performances.

RB - Neville or Richards - I would have to go with Richards over Neville due to fitness issues, but both are way better right backs than wes brown for sure.

DC - Ferdinand and Woodgate - Both have been solid defenders for their clubs during the season, especially Woodgate since moving to Spurs. I could see this as a possible future partnership.

LB - Bridge - When he plays for Chelsea he has been more effective than Ashley Cole, plus he's not as hot tempered as Cole.

MR - Bentley - You would have to be mad not to include him, due to recent performances for Blackburn. I can see him being a permanent fixture on the right side when Beckham retires.

MC - Gerrard or Jenas and Hargreaves - Don't get me wrong but Gerrard is top quality player but he just doesn't do much when playing in England shirt. You never see the same player you would see for Liverpool. However, Jenas this season has been in the form of his life and deserves England recognition.

Hargreaves, easily has been our most consistent player since the world cup and euro qualifiers.

ML - J.Cole - Easily the best left sided midfielder we have.

FC - Owen and Defoe or Bent - When Owen is on his game and is at full fitness he is a decent striker. Hard decision between Defoe and Bent because they are both similar strikers, like to go forward and exploit defenses. I would choose Defoe over Bent due to him getting matches.

No Rooney? - I'll explain that. You cannot question his work rate and effort levels but same as Gerrard, he does not repeat the same form at country level as he does for his club. Often when he plays he usually gets isolated on his own, which leads to him getting frustrated and his temper kicks in. Normally ending in him making silly tackles and arguing with officials, then getting sent off.
You're a Tottenham fan.

[StefanCampbell]

So what if he is? you can't moan with his choices it's a pretty good team. Accept for the woodgate bit.

[Aflux]

So what if he is? you can't moan with his choices it's a pretty good team. Accept for the woodgate bit.
Jenas, Bent, Robinson?

[Jordie]

Play the U21's as the proper england team

do better than that rubbish

[Aflux]

Play the U21's as the proper england team

do better than that rubbish
That's the post that's made most sense in this dismal thread.

[Minstrels]

That's the post that's made most sense in this dismal thread.
Looks like we'll have Hart, Johnson and Onouha in the team then. ;)

[StefanCampbell]

why are u posting in this thread if its dismal?

[carrick]

yeh lets all have a **** over england u21's, yeh man they're amazing!

if only capello played the u21 team against france we would have won!!!!!!!!

god so many muppets on this forum

[StefanCampbell]

Englands first choice U21 side is pretty good actually dont under-rate it.

btw bluemoon lol@ur sig.

[Rarelime]

You're a Tottenham fan.

Yes I am.


Jenas, Bent, Robinson?

Jenas - He has been one of Spurs' best players this season, and deserves a break in the England squad.

Bent - Let me put it to you this way. Would you rather have someone run at a defence and cause them problems? or have someone launch the ball upfield and aim for a target (Crouch) and risk losing the ball?

Robinson - Yes he has had ups and downs the past few years, but he is slowly regaining the form which initially got him into the England setup. Plus as I said in my previous post, he has been Englands #1 for a while, and a sudden change of keepers can be a problem.

[carrick]

yeh brilliant performance by the lads on tuesday

0-0 draw with poland

[StefanCampbell]

if u new anything about football u wud have realised that was our 2nd string U21 side, which is obviously going to be poor.. *TEXT REMOVED*

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[carrick]

yeh im saying they are poor......
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[StefanCampbell]

you wanna turn this into a personal matter? :rolleyes:, i'm not the glory hunter who thinks he knows everything about football in this thread. That's you REMOVED. I would not mind if you actually new what you were going on about.


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[carrick]

you wanna turn this into a personal matter? :rolleyes:, i'm not the glory hunter who thinks he knows everything about football in this thread. That's you REMOVED. I would not mind if you actually new what you were going on about.
yeh why not

lets turn it into a personal matter

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got it?

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[StefanCampbell]

Wow how big of you, i'm really shaking in my boots at that news. :)

[carrick]

hehe what a *****ole not giving me his address

[StefanCampbell]

If you had any sence you would shut that big whole in your face before you get banned.. rofl

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[carrick]

you were the one that wanted to make it personal

[StefanCampbell]

i wasn't the noob asking for your address i recall it being the other way round.

[carrick]

at the end of the day

you know nothing about football

[StefanCampbell]

At the end of the day ... you got to bed? :S

and i no a damn site more about football than you do.

[carrick]

Never heard of ball, and miller plays for west brom and since im a woevs fan thats a big nono, that team would get killed tbh.
you dont even know who ball is :S

and learn to spell

[StefanCampbell]

Then if you read on i actually realize that i do know who ball is, read the thread right before trying to criticize me, oh and btw, i only left an 'L' out of Wolves, not hardly the greatest disaster of modern times is it? *TEXT REMOVED* :)

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[carrick]

i can see loads more mistakes

[StefanCampbell]

Yeh ones in your name, ment to be a capital 'C', for a start, pathetic.

[carrick]

thats not a spelling mistake

[StefanCampbell]

Grammar, forgive me if i'm wrong but you seem to be terrible at it. :rolleyes:

[carrick]

Never heard of ball, and miller plays for west brom and since im a woevs fan thats a big nono, that team would get killed tbh.


he kept ronaldo quiet so what? thats club football not country, + its not likely were going to bump into portugual again, u cant rate one player on 2 performances for his club against your biggest rivals.


no aflux is actually right on this accasion, what you've said counts for what he said too :rolleyes:


my team:


Hart/James
Richards/G.Neville, Ferdinand, Terry(C), A.Cole/Bridge
Lennon/Bentley, Gerrard, Hargreaves/Barry, J.Cole/Downing
Rooney, Crouch/Defoe/Owen.


Players without the /'s are certains, but as you can see capello has A LOT to play with + more.



couldn't edit but i missed out tht goaly called luke steel who playd for someone against man u think it was, and he played awsome.


ud rele leave terry and rooney out? two of our best performing players? :S


So what if he is? you can't moan with his choices it's a pretty good team. Accept for the woodgate bit.


if u new anything about football u wud have realised that was our 2nd string U21 side, which is obviously going to be poor.. *****.


If you had any sence you would shut that big whole in your face before you get banned.. rofl


At the end of the day ... you got to bed? :S

and i no a damn site more about football than you do.

oooommmmgggg:eusa_wall

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[StefanCampbell]

ever heard of slang? :rolleyes: your pretty pathetic tbh.

and no one can help the odd typo? :S you really are ****in annoying me now :rolleyes:

[carrick]

thats not slang

[StefanCampbell]

3/4 of it is if you use common sence. :rolleyes:

[carrick]

none of it is slang

[StefanCampbell]

"wud" "rele" erm, yeh to name a few.

[Galaxay]

Edit: Wrong place? :S