LOL @ ClubHabbo

[Moh]

Well ClubHabbo are trying to take down HabbCrazy, and sent this to our data center:


To Whom It May Concern,

The following information is presented for the purposes of removing web
content that infringes on our copyright per the Digital Millennium
Copyright Act. We appreciate your enforcement of copyright law and support
of our rights in this matter.

The copyrighted work at issue is text and images that appear on
http://www.habbcrazy.net (http://www.habbcrazy.net/) and it's related pages. This is a Digital
Millennium Copyright Act Report against you, the host of the website in
question.

We have reason to believe that you host or own the website,
http://www.habbcrazy.net (http://www.habbcrazy.net/).

I hereby confirm that I am authorised to act on behalf of the owner of
ClubHabbo on request to remove copyrighted material.

Our copyright ownership is clearly stated on the site thus:
All material on this website is copyrighted to ClubHabbo and/or the Sulake
Group. All Habbo images used on this website are copyrighted to the Sulake
Group, and have been created by ClubHabbo and/or their respective owners
and used with permission.

The following website, http://www.habbcrazy.net (http://www.habbcrazy.net/) infringes our copyright in
several places:

i. The general website and layout is an edit and reproduction of what can
be seen on www.clubhabbo.net (http://www.clubhabbo.net/) , for example our
navigation headers,
drop-down script, rotating image script.

ii. http://www.habbcrazy.net/files/cloudsbg.gif is taken from
http://www.clubhabbo.net/images/backgrounds/clouds.gif.

iii. http://www.habbcrazy.net/pages/community/tictactoe.htm uses the
script and/or text and images taken from
http://www.clubhabbo.net/community/tictactoe.html

iv. http://www.habbcrazy.net/pages/community/dotsboxes.htm uses the script
and/or text and images
http://www.clubhabbo.net/community/dotsandboxes.html

v. http://www.habbcrazy.net/pages/community/lovecal.htm uses the script
and/or text and images http://www.clubhabbo.net/community/lgen.html

vi. http://www.habbcrazy.net/images/pages/home_requestline.gif is a
repoduction of our copyrighted template at
http://www.clubhabbo.net/images/pics/snowstormguide.gif. This also occurs
twice more on the site in question.

vii. http://www.clubhabbo.net/clubhabbo/staff.html is a repoduction and is
taken from http://www.habbcrazy.net/pages/habbcrazy/stafflist.php

As stated before, http://www.habbcrazy.net (http://www.habbcrazy.net/) is hosted or registered by you.
I am thus writing to you to request that this site is removed from your
servers forthwith. Please inform me when this has been effected.

I have a good faith belief that use of the copyrighted materials described
above on the allegedly infringing web pages is not authorized by the
copyright owner, its agent, or the law. I am requesting a reply to this
e-mail.

I swear, under penalty of perjury, that the information in the
notification is accurate and that I am the copyright owner or am
authorized to act on behalf of the owner of an exclusive right that is
allegedly infringed.


Yours sincerely,


Oliver D. Scott
ClubHabbo Site Producer
www.ClubHabbo.net (http://www.clubhabbo.net/)

So we just simply sent them links to the sources of our JavaScript (Which they claimed to be there own), oh, and they are claiming that the images by SULAKE are there own, so we just sent them a link to all the information on that.

So, could ClubHabbo get taken from the official fansite list for claiming Sulakes content as there own? And using it say we violated copyright laws?

[Jordan,]

Thought ollie dident work there

[Moh]

Thought ollie dident work there
So he dosn't, they cant take threats off people who dont work there can they :P

[Obiod]

LOL! That clouds background is Sulakes.
but if the rest of the scripts were made by ClubHabbo, then they have the right to get it removed.


So, could ClubHabbo get taken from the official fansite list for claiming Sulakes content as there own? And using it say we violated copyright laws?

Clubhabbo.net isn't official...

[Jordan,]

Well contact ryan

[kk.]

:@ they annoy me so much. whats the email to your host so i can have my say lol. as i coded it and is nothing like the clubhabbo script?

[Moh]

LOL! That clouds background is Sulakes.
but if the rest of the scripts were made by ClubHabbo, then they have the right to get it removed.



Clubhabbo.net isn't official...
All the JavaScripts are from www.javascript.internet.com

Well, ClubHabbo are on the "Wish to be Official List", so could they loose there chance?

[Jordan,]

Report to sulake first xD

[Moh]

Report to sulake first xD
I NEVER get a reply :l

[Portish1]

Ollie reported HabbCrazy. Ollie doesn't work for ClubHabbo. How is ClubHabbo (SkaterChu) related with this?

[kk.]

they were the ones who contacted the host about the so called 'copyright infringment'

[Jordan,]

Yours sincerely,


Oliver D. Scott
ClubHabbo Site Producer
www.ClubHabbo.net thats get clubhabbo invlolved

[Portish1]

thats get clubhabbo invlolved

How? If he doesn't work there.

[Jordan,]

I. All the links there are saying its copywrite to CH (not)
II. Hes claiming he is

[Moh]

How? If he doesn't work there.
The email was sent whilst we was working for ClubHabbo, so it has everything to do with ClubHabbo.

If your site is managed properly, Ryan (SkaterChu) would of authorised him to send it.

[Lee]

Although the "Clouds" are not yours, you will still be punished if you don't remove the scripts unless you can prove you made them ;)

I don't see their problem? Are they threatend or something?

[kk.]

clubhabbo didnt make them. Theyre free from that website jack provided

[Moh]

Although the "Clouds" are not yours, you will still be punished if you don't remove the scripts unless you can prove you made them ;)

I don't see their problem? Are they threatend or something?
Just google:

Tic Tac Toe JavaScript

Love Calculator JavaScript

Thats what we did before we added the scripts to the site, so that we knew they didn't belong to ClubHabbo :P

[Jordan,]

And all the other is copwrite to the person who wrote it and all images are sulakes

[kk.]

if all the images are sulake then clubhabbo shoiuld get shut down..

the content i havnt looked at so im not sure on

[Lee]

Maybe Ollie Owned The Copyright Or Ryan (SkaterChu) Gave Him Permission To Send That Warning?

[Jordan,]

I doubt thats + jack said it was sent when he worked there

[Moh]

Maybe Ollie Owned The Copyright Or Ryan (SkaterChu) Gave Him Permission To Send That Warning?
But non of what he stated is Copyrighted to them, so there making fake allegations

[Hypertext]

Wow that sucks, suspended? You don't have *Removed* the same. I used to be friends /w clubhabbo, but if they're doing this claiming it's all theirs.

Edited by Kaotix (Forum Moderator): Please don't avoid the swearing filter.

[Moh]

Wow that sucks, suspended? You don't have s___ the same. I used to be friends /w clubhabbo, but if they're doing this claiming it's all theirs.
Our host dosn't know that the images are in fact Sulakes, so they had to suspend us. But we are waiting for a reply :)

And if they don't un suspend us, we shall be contacting Habbo USA's community manager (Or what ever her roll is) to contact Habbo UK about this :)

Much faster than contacting Sulake :)

[Hypertext]

Yeh, if you need any vouches against anything just ask and I'd be happy to help. But I'm sure nearly everybody on this forum will vouch for you about this mate.

[Moh]

Yeh, if you need any vouches against anything just ask and I'd be happy to help. But I'm sure nearly everybody on this forum will vouch for you about this mate.
Were going to send the email to Squib, so that she can review it :P. And Squib is a fan for HabbCrazy, so im pritty sure she will help HabbCrazy :)

[iTech]

Clubhabbo is a bunch of greedy idiots, who think they own everything
because they have mentally challenged people DJ for them, and people laugh at it.

Edited by Kaotix (Forum Moderator): Please don't insult others.

[Hypertext]

Well put =)

Edited by Kaotix (Forum Moderator): Please don't post pointlessly.

[iTech]

Well put =)

It's the truth.

[DarkSquiffy]

LOLLL.

Those pictures are Sulakes not CH's. Idiots <:l

[iCosmo]

God, clubhabbo do my head in :@

[MrCraig]

Ok..

Ollie, what is wrong with you :|
(no offence)

But your drop down menu script is dynamic drive.
You cannot copyright a theme to a layout.

So go back to someone who cares what you have to say. (ie dont go anywhere.)

And tbh, sounding all posh in letters doesnt do you any favours.

[Blazz]

Ok..

Ollie, what is wrong with you :|
(no offence)

But your drop down menu script is dynamic drive.
You cannot copyright a theme to a layout.

So go back to someone who cares what you have to say. (ie dont go anywhere.)

And tbh, sounding all posh in letters doesnt do you any favours.

Now that is a speech!

And, if I have a dropdown script from dynamic drive on Habble.co.uk, does that automatically mean I can get my account suspended for copyright infringement from CH?

It's all BULL****.

[Hypertext]

+REP MrCraig! =}\

"I swear under penalty of perjury".

Ok lets take him to court, as he seems to have got his information wrong. My attorney can claim the fees from him wasting my time by being under penalty of perjury. This is habbo fansites. Lets be serious. But nto that serious.

[Moh]

I just noticed about that dots & boxes part, we bloody added that to our site first :@

[kk.]

EDIT: oh wait nevermind lol

Edited by Kaotix (Forum Moderator): Please don't post pointlessly.

[Xarea]

This was in February, lol.... I don't even work for CH anymore.

[Jordan,]

Well Contact the datacenter saying you wish to take it back

[MrCraig]

Just because u dont work for clubhabbo anymore doesnt mean u didnt send that completely idiotic letter.

No wonder u got fired..

[Xarea]

Well Contact the datacenter saying you wish to take it back

I don't have my @clubhabbo.net email anymore, so I can't...? :rolleyes:


Just because u dont work for clubhabbo anymore doesnt mean u didnt send that completely idiotic letter.

No wonder u got fired..

I only did what my job said I had to do ;) and I wasn't fired for sending DMCA complaints, lol!

[kk.]

EDIT: oh wait nevermind lol

Edited by Kaotix (Forum Moderator): Please don't post pointlessly.
erm not pointless, i edited because i understood what he meant..

Their server replies are really slow if you sent that in february lol.

[Jordan,]

and..... whats the backdoor in the the dj panel that you got josh to do xD

[Xarea]

erm not pointless, i edited because i understood what he meant..

Their server replies are really slow if you sent that in february lol.

They must be - I forgot I even sent the thing.


and..... whats the backdoor in the the dj panel that you got josh to do xD

You'd have to have a key to find out :P

[Jordan,]

Oh darn it xD

[MrCraig]

No..

U got fired for thinking you can copyright HTML, PHP, JS, CSS, etc...?

Omgz, i used dynamicdrive dropdown menu in my last site..
-waiting for DMCA :rolleyes:

[Moh]

This was in February, lol.... I don't even work for CH anymore.
Please dont give us ********, as ClubHabbo didn't have Dots & boxes in February. And we had it in our previous version, in erm? January?
So how does that work out?

[@xP]

jelousy much.

[Florx]

Urm the site is suspended?
LOL

[Moh]

Urm the site is suspended?
LOL
Our host is taking ages to reply :(

[Xarea]

No..

U got fired for thinking you can copyright HTML, PHP, JS, CSS, etc...?

Omgz, i used dynamicdrive dropdown menu in my last site..
-waiting for DMCA :rolleyes:

No, I didn't - LOL.


Please dont give us ********, as ClubHabbo didn't have Dots & boxes in February. And we had it in our previous version, in erm? January?
So how does that work out?

Yes, ClubHabbo did have it in February - I remember it being putting on, and then about a week later, I posted a news article about it:
http://www.clubhabbo.net/news/show_news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1204482870&archive=&start_from=&ucat=25&

Dated 3rd March :).

[MrCraig]

U do realise that u just LOL'd at your own comment?

[Xarea]

No, I didn't laugh at my own comment, I laughed at you saying:


U got fired for thinking you can copyright HTML, PHP, JS, CSS, etc...?

'cause I was fired for a totally different thing :)!

[Moh]

No, I didn't - LOL.



Yes, ClubHabbo did have it in February - I remember it being putting on, and then about a week later, I posted a news article about it:
http://www.clubhabbo.net/news/show_news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1204482870&archive=&start_from=&ucat=25&

Dated 3rd March :).
And we had ours in January.

And you announced your new game in March, not February.

[Xarea]

And we had ours in January.

And you announced your new game in March, not February.

Proof, please?


I remember it being putting on, and then about a week later, I posted a news article about it

[Moh]

Proof, please?
Our sites suspended at the moment, so I cant look at dated created.

Your text was based off ours, so im pritty sure you know we had it first.

It dosnt matter who had it first, as IT DOSNT BELONG TO YOU OR ME!

[Bojangles]

Lol at this, it's habbo fansites for christ sake.

[[Oli]]

Lol at this, it's habbo fansites for christ sake.

Normally I would understand this situation. Fansite or not someone still spent time on it to create it.

Though in this case none made anything, it either belongs to habbo or to dynamicdrive etc.

What's there to discuss :s

[e5]

LOL! That clouds background is Sulakes.
but if the rest of the scripts were made by ClubHabbo, then they have the right to get it removed.



Clubhabbo.net isn't official...
It's up for the official vote. ClubHabbo is jokes anyway.

[Moh]

Lol at this, it's habbo fansites for christ sake.
But for ClubHabbo Staff, its there lifes ambition.

[Falcon]

well your site is suspended now, so looks like you're the bad egg in this situation. xx

[Moh]

well your site is suspended now, so looks like you're the bad egg in this situation. xx
Not really, been suspended makes our listeners go up the next day ;)
Were still suspended because our hosts are busy atm, but with all our proof that everything stated in that email is free. Its going to be ClubHabbo whos going to be the bad egg :)

[SkaterChu]

I'm sorry, just because someone has sent an email who doesn't work at ClubHabbo anymore, you can't target the current staff members, as if i had so much of a problem with your site, i'd have reported it myself, which i didn't.

Also, you only had to open up two tabs, one ClubHabbo, and one Habbcrazy to notice the immediate similaritys, but hey - i'm not starting fights here.

[Technologic]

I'm sorry, just because someone has sent an email who doesn't work at ClubHabbo anymore, you can't target the current staff members, as if i had so much of a problem with your site, i'd have reported it myself, which i didn't.

Also, you only had to open up two tabs, one ClubHabbo, and one Habbcrazy to notice the immediate similaritys, but hey - i'm not starting fights here.
Well the fact CH steals everything from other sites should go ignored in this argument...

[Moh]

I'm sorry, just because someone has sent an email who doesn't work at ClubHabbo anymore, you can't target the current staff members, as if i had so much of a problem with your site, i'd have reported it myself, which i didn't.

Also, you only had to open up two tabs, one ClubHabbo, and one Habbcrazy to notice the immediate similaritys, but hey - i'm not starting fights here.
Then dont you think you should contact our host saything that that email was not authorised by you?

[MrCraig]

I'm sorry, just because someone has sent an email who doesn't work at ClubHabbo anymore, you can't target the current staff members, as if i had so much of a problem with your site, i'd have reported it myself, which i didn't.

Also, you only had to open up two tabs, one ClubHabbo, and one Habbcrazy to notice the immediate similaritys, but hey - i'm not starting fights here.

What we're saying is, ollie reports sites for 'similarities'.. Theres only so many combinations of images you can do..

And always presumes that this site has 'copied' clubhabbo in some way by using the same resources they do.

I hate clubhabbo as much as the next guy for the fact that they think they can run around copyrighting themes and free resources.

[Pyroka]

Well the fact CH steals everything from other sites should go ignored in this argument...

*smirk* Maybe another day eh? Hehe. Thing is, it looks like they've only just read the email. I'd agree they do look similar sites.

Seriously, Have Habbo fansites gotten that low that the only way you can settle disputes like this is to start threatening legal action against one another? Whatever did happen to a good ol' method of sorting problems out called NEGOTIATION.

Oh wait, I forgot, people like to file DMCA's because it makes them look all legally knowledgeable and such. Seriously, I bet you never properly contacted them about the images before you filed that DMCA. I bet even more money on it that you called them silly names and tried to pressure them into folding their fansite in. It sounds about right coming from Clubhabbo, because I'm sure I've seen it before.

[Hypertext]

*smirk* Maybe another day eh? Hehe. Thing is, it looks like they've only just read the email. I'd agree they do look similar sites.

Seriously, Have Habbo fansites gotten that low that the only way you can settle disputes like this is to start threatening legal action against one another? Whatever did happen to a good ol' method of sorting problems out called NEGOTIATION.

Oh wait, I forgot, people like to file DMCA's because it makes them look all legally knowledgeable and such. Seriously, I bet you never properly contacted them about the images before you filed that DMCA. I bet even more money on it that you called them silly names and tried to pressure them into folding their fansite in. It sounds about right coming from Clubhabbo, because I'm sure I've seen it before.

Precisely, well said, they do file a DMCA, simply to sound big and clever.

[LegendOfNoob]

I Agree with Pryoka
I agree in a sort with the post above although
habbo fansites are getting to serious and sometimes
will do this just to get rid of competition
theese are free source scripts however
some personally edited coding was just copied from clubhabbo rather
than just coding from the dynamic drive may be a cause to neogioate
but not dmca untill sure there is not a way to talk it out

[Moh]

http://javascript.internet.com/games/dots.html - Apparently thats ClubHabbos

http://javascript.internet.com/games/love-test.html - Also ClubHabbos

http://javascript.internet.com/games/tic-tac-toe.html - Wounder who owns that?

http://www.dynamicdrive.com/dynamicindex1/switchmenu.htm - Apparently thats theres.

[LegendOfNoob]

all expect dots are on dynamicdrive

[Alkaz]

LOL i could copy rite all the guides I have written for habbox :D

[Slowpoke]

Well your account has been suspended so.. ?

[NEW-START]

LOL i could copy rite all the guides I have written for habbox :D

Technically, they are copyright to HabboX and yourself!


Well your account has been suspended so.. ?

Did you not read this thread? :O :P

[Slowpoke]

Did you not read this thread? :O :P

Yes but I don't see the point? They clearly did copy CH so I can't understand why we are expected to "LOL @" them.

EDIT: Okay if he doesn't actually work for CH then it's a joke.. still, it's a pointless thread.

[Moh]

Well your account has been suspended so.. ?
Yes, because they got an email stating we STOLE there scripts, not used the same ones.


Yes but I don't see the point? They clearly did copy CH so I can't understand why we are expected to "LOL @" them.
Because the email they sent had fake allegations, just to try and get rid of competition.

So any one who makes a Habbo Fansite is copying ClubHabbo?
Even though we have been open longer than ClubHabbo (Well as another fansite, but moved domains)

[MrCraig]

Yes but I don't see the point? They clearly did copy CH so I can't understand why we are expected to "LOL @" them.

EDIT: Okay if he doesn't actually work for CH then it's a joke.. still, it's a pointless thread.

Clubhabbo liker :S
-Shuns.

Read up on your facts before u post.

[Cavaz]

lol clubhabbo they arnt the only site to only allowed to have tic tac toe and dots script.

Lol shows how stubborn they are

[Moh]

Its like MySpace going up to Bebo and getting them closed down for also having a Social Networking site.

[iTech]

How the hell did CH get official?
Did Skaterchu finally use his mouth for good, on the rear end of L_W?

It's a fansite powered by eRebels.

[Agnostic Bear]

Well ClubHabbo are trying to take down HabbCrazy, and sent this to our data center:


So we just simply sent them links to the sources of our JavaScript (Which they claimed to be there own), oh, and they are claiming that the images by SULAKE are there own, so we just sent them a link to all the information on that.

So, could ClubHabbo get taken from the official fansite list for claiming Sulakes content as there own? And using it say we violated copyright laws?

Charge them for time, resources and bandwidth wasted.

[Moh]

Charge them for time, resources and bandwidth wasted.
ClubHabbo or the host?

[cunning]

Wow, that's so crazy. I never heard of a fansite trying to take legal action over things which really are created by Sulake or DynamicDrive. I have nothing bad to say, I just think that's amazing.

[Agnostic Bear]

ClubHabbo or the host?

Whoever sent you the message and wasted your time.

[VistaBoy]

This is very silly its habbo the images are really Sulake and well i think clubhabbo needs to pull there head in and open there eyes. oh and did clubhabbo get a lawyer to sign a bit of paper saying that content is theres?

[Recursion]

This is very silly its habbo the images are really Sulake and well i think clubhabbo needs to pull there head in and open there eyes. oh and did clubhabbo get a lawyer to sign a bit of paper saying that content is theres?

in the UK anything you make can be copyrighted for free. Just put it on a disk, post it to your self and while its in the post they will stamp the envelope with the date, when you get it back DO NOT open it and then you have some evidence of what and when you created.

[Rafiki]

Serious they fools

[VistaBoy]

in the UK anything you make can be copyrighted for free. Just put it on a disk, post it to your self and while its in the post they will stamp the envelope with the date, when you get it back DO NOT open it and then you have some evidence of what and when you created.
OH okay did not know that -.-

[mazalta]

clubhabbo really is stupid but luckly we have squib (habbo usa fansite director) and superjatt (aka paul thind) sulake usa general manager) supporting us with this. i wish they could go talk to uk staff about clubhabbo :rolleyes:

[iLOVEeveryone]

JUST GET OUT MORE.

[Bojangles]

JUST GET OUT MORE.
Says the one whos buying 39 hcs and 5 red ambers?

Edited by Kaotix (Forum Moderator): Please stay on topic.

[timROGERS]

Has anyone noticed the fact that the writer of that DMCA cease and desist notice could go to prison, see:


I swear, under penalty of perjury, that the information in the
notification is accurate and that I am the copyright owner or am
authorized to act on behalf of the owner of an exclusive right that is
allegedly infringed.

They do not own the copyright to any of the things they state and are therefore commiting perjury, which is subject to up to 14 years in prison in the US. Naughty naughty! :o Moreover, I think that unless the site owner/host is in the USA, the DMCA does not apply.

[Moh]

Our host askes us to get in contact with the owners of sulake, like what the hell are they on? Its hard enought getting in contact with player support.

So I just simply sent him a link to Sulake & Habbos T&C, and he can get off his lazy **** and look for something which says we can use there images :P
If not, ill just send them a link to every fansite I can think of :)

[Xarea]

I'd withdraw the DMCA if it's that much of a bother, but I don't have my [email protected] e-mail anymore :(.

[Moh]

I'd withdraw the DMCA if it's that much of a bother, but I don't have my [email protected] e-mail anymore :(.
It wont make any difference, they will still take about 24 hours to do that :P

Btw, when did you actually send this?

[Xarea]

Honestly, I sent it in February - right towards the end. I forgot I had even done it, lol.

[Moh]

But we haven't had this current layout that long.. so at the time, we didn't have half of the things you stated.

[Xarea]

Haha, I don't know - can't remember. Oh well.

[Bojangles]

So you filed a DMCA against them when their layout was nothing like yours? Right.. your sad my friend.

[Carnio]

I'm sorry, just because someone has sent an email who doesn't work at ClubHabbo anymore, you can't target the current staff members, as if i had so much of a problem with your site, i'd have reported it myself, which i didn't.

Also, you only had to open up two tabs, one ClubHabbo, and one Habbcrazy to notice the immediate similaritys, but hey - i'm not starting fights here.

If you want to start on things looking similar then why not visit Clubhabbo.net and Habbotimes.de eh?

[Rafiki]

well said carnio they compleate rippers :@

[Moh]

HabbCrazy is now back :)

But its still not going to stop us from contacting Sulake about this.

[MattyBoy]

Similiar stuff about both of them:

They are both runned by idiots

HabbCrazy - Runned by americans (yes as we already know but Jack is left out cuz he is cool)

ClubHabbo - Runned by babies who are so spoilt they think they could send that message.


They both expect too much

And both copyright!

[MrCraig]

HAHA.

Ollie behind bars for 14 years.!

And the big guy in prison copies his name, he files a 'DMCA' against them and.. The story continues from there..

[iTech]

Carnio, you can't exactly talk, who designed that iPod on HFFM?
Eh? (Me.) And, you stole it, and claimed it as your own.

Just report copyright infringement to Sulake, they'll be more alert about it then. :)

Skaterchu, where are you hiding now? Quickly preparing your knife to slit, just incase CH loses it's official?

[Scarcely]

For **** sake tbh...
This is pathetic.
We're teenagers here, and people like that are making your lives more complicated.
Tbh, I've always hated ClubHabbo, always, and this proves why.
Ergh!
Pathetic.

[MrCraig]

Loool.

I hate any fansite that gets too big headed and thinks they own everything.

[NEW-START]

I don't see the need to dispute with each other. Your website does not create much income, and competition is just stupid. If you wish to succeed in whatever, you need to make the most friends possible!

For a quick example, Richard Branson who owns the Virgin Group has made thousands of friends in the fields he operates as possible. He has close relationships with Emirates, Air Canada etc, so he can work his way through being the best.

You need to work together and get as many relationships who do the same as possible if you wish to shine ontop. An airline like Ryanair is disliked over the likes of First Choice as Ryanair wishes to make more rivals than possible. First Choice has more allies, serves to more locations etc and succeeds more than Ryanair.

STOP ARGUING, GROW UP AND MAKE AS MANY FRIENDS AS POSSIBLE — YOU'LL APPRECIATE IT ONE DAY.

[Moh]

I don't see the need to dispute with each other. Your website does not create much income, and competition is just stupid. If you wish to succeed in whatever, you need to make the most friends possible!

For a quick example, Richard Branson who owns the Virgin Group has made thousands of friends in the fields he operates as possible. He has close relationships with Emirates, Air Canada etc, so he can work his way through being the best.

You need to work together and get as many relationships who do the same as possible if you wish to shine ontop. An airline like Ryanair is disliked over the likes of First Choice as Ryanair wishes to make more rivals than possible. First Choice has more allies, serves to more locations etc and succeeds more than Ryanair.

STOP ARGUING, GROW UP AND MAKE AS MANY FRIENDS AS POSSIBLE — YOU'LL APPRECIATE IT ONE DAY.
ClubHabbo is the only fansite I don't get along with, and im pritty sure I will never get along with them.

I remember SkaterChu asking me how to make cutenews open in an iFrame, he asked me niceley like a friend, and then he blocked and deleted me.

[Pyroka]

Guys, can we shut this thread now? It's turning into a huge Clubhabbo ripping thread (which hehe, I don't mind) but it's a bit harsh on them. Errors have been corrected, lessons have been revised once more, and new advice has come from the thread.

Either close it, or let it die. :)

[Moh]

I'll close it if you want, does any one want to say any last comments :P

[iTech]

THOUGH THE THREAD MIGHT DIE
LA RESISTANCE LIVES ON!

Edited by Kaotix (Forum Moderator): Please don't post pointlessly.

[RedCrisps]

Carnio, you can't exactly talk, who designed that iPod on HFFM?
Eh? (Me.) And, you stole it, and claimed it as your own.

Just report copyright infringement to Sulake, they'll be more alert about it then. :)

Skaterchu, where are you hiding now? Quickly preparing your knife to slit, just incase CH loses it's official?
It wasn't stolen. How many fansites have iPodic designs, there's loads. So don't try turning this into a flame thread about HFFM.

[iTech]

It wasn't stolen. How many fansites have iPodic designs, there's loads. So don't try turning this into a flame thread about HFFM.


No, that EXACT Design, was stolen.
Not the concept.

[Asher]

TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN? Who uses that nowadays, no one.

Sir or Madame

or their name, ******!!

[shizzle]

Lmao sulake made them?

[NEW-START]

It would be good if this topic was locked!

[shizzle]

It would be good if this topic was locked!
Why would it be good?

[NEW-START]

Why would it be good?

As it is unrelated to Designing & Development and is just filled with complete spam and arguments now!

[Hypertext]

yeh jack maybe close it.
.:P

[Moh]

Yea, Ill close it now :)

Our host said we could contact a lawyer because Ollie stated:

I swear, under penalty of perjury, that the information in the
notification is accurate and that I am the copyright owner or am
authorized to act on behalf of the owner of an exclusive right that is
allegedly infringed.

Thread closed now :)