Flyxa needs a design

[Hypertext]

Flyxa a new social network needs a layout. Jimbo had 100% right to set sale although it was a perfect-for-flyxa layout... we need another one

if anyone can please pm me with your msn, heres the specs:

2/3 columns
banner
announcements
big footer
small content boxes
big content box
user login.

Thanks in advance,

Charlie, Flyxa team!

[kk.]

i have one for you. but ive told you where i stand lol.

you might want to say what you offer them :)

[Hypertext]

I offer you an admin account on Flyxa and a great piece for your portfolio!

Jimbo, wants 50is pounds for the layout. Originally 0 ;/ still. =]

[kk.]

ahem, i stated about 50 :)

[[Oli]]

I offer you an admin account on Flyxa and a great piece for your portfolio!

Jimbo, wants 50is pounds for the layout. Originally 0 ;/ still. =]

No offence here, but you can't just go and ask a full custom build design to your needs for free.
And you know aswell as I do that nobody would want a job on a site as pay for their product.

£50 Isn't much to be honest with you



Just think about it ;)

[Hypertext]

Lol I know -just feel a bit gutted after spending all night telling him what to do I wake up and he says hes selling it =/

Edit: in America thats $100 and we're having a recession.

[kk.]

Lol I know -just feel a bit gutted after spending all night telling him what to do I wake up and he says hes selling it =/

Edit: in America thats $100 and we're having a recession.
dont make me sound like a bad person :@ it wasnt all night and its jsut the same as posting on here and people giving C+C. are you saying if you made something that you personally liked for someone and they said, oh you can have an admin account, you would take it? because im not. enjoy making your version of the site however

the recession means nothing to me as it isnt affecting me. You dont get suppliers in england saying, oh because your in a recession i will give it to you for half price..

[:Edzy]

can we see the £50 layout?

[kk.]

i posted it the other day, just go to design and development and click flyxa: designa t the bottom.

hes claiming i said $100 which is about £45 in paypal but then i said 90 = about 40. he said if i gave it him now, i can wait a month and a half and get £60 as his paypal is banned

[:Edzy]

i posted it the other day, just go to design and development and click flyxa: designa t the bottom.

hes claiming i said $100 which is about £45 in paypal but then i said 90 = about 40. he said if i gave it him now, i can wait a month and a half and get £60 as his paypal is banned

Tis a really nice design. Worth the money imo. but what use do you have for it now?

[kk.]

easily manipulated into another design with very little messing about with the code. :)

[Hypertext]

Fair enough about the money thing...

but I won't post msn logs:

Jimbo said what do i get for this, I say an admin account on flyxa he says ok, we carry on a whole night working with the layout I wake up and hes selling it..

[kk.]

a whole night to you means giving C+C on a layout for about 3 hours which happened lets see about 3 times, so once every hour and it wasnt night in america. I stayed up all night designing the layout and part of next day and then the rest of that day coding it. I didnt want to ask for money but after getting feedback on it it turns out people actually like it and has the possibility of making me some money.

I explained last night about why i need some money and in the other thread. commenting on colours and giving a specification does not mean that you stayed up all night giving criticism. The layout is for sale now and a thread will be going up in a short while.

[iTech]

I'm not jumping into an arguement here,

But I'm sure many would agree here.
You're selling a layout, looks good on the portfolio sure.

But, keeping it with a sucessful Social network, and earning off that.
Will make you look even Better.

[kk.]

Josh FGS.
i have told you and charlie already. i have no plans to carry on with flyxa because of exams. And, web design is something i dont really want to go into in the future. A design is a design and what your not getting is, even if i didnt sell it, it would still count as a design that i have made. Whether its going to a SN site or not. You used a very important word their too, succesful. it may very well turn into a succesful site but i would much prefer to be paid now than just the possibility of being paid.

[iTech]

Josh FGS.
i have told you and charlie already. i have no plans to carry on with flyxa because of exams. And, web design is something i dont really want to go into in the future. A design is a design and what your not getting is, even if i didnt sell it, it would still count as a design that i have made. Whether its going to a SN site or not. You used a very important word their too, succesful. it may very well turn into a succesful site but i would much prefer to be paid now than just the possibility of being paid.

Fair enough then. :rolleyes:

[kk.]

yep it is. :)

[NEW-START]

I don't see why you are all fighting over that design... there are loads more people who could do better than that! No offence, but it's not that great.

[kk.]

im not exactly arguing.im saying how ridiculous reconix has acted. if you have seen the amount of stuff he ahs said and repeated over and over again, offering scripts instead of money, asking for it now and then be paid in a month and a half you would see why im getting so annoyed with him and josh for that matter.

[NEW-START]

I'd rather not get involved with the argument!

To be honest, it would be best if you used the PM's if you wish to argue, as you're wasting space and damaging both of your images! :P

[kk.]

wasting space? lol

were on each others msn so pming wouldnt be necessary. im just saying whats happened anyway

[NEW-START]

Would be best for you to talk on MSN then. :P

The thread is just filled with a 2 page argument!

[iTech]

Back on topic then!

Pm Reconix or me, if you can assist with any graphics or the design itself.
:)

Please use this logo on the design or gfx if you are going to help. :)

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/2342/j1vx3.th.png (http://img85.imageshack.us/my.php?image=j1vx3.png)

(The logo was designed by me, not kk.)
(Just to inform you all.)

[kk.]

no but recoloured by mE :P nah only joking

well good luck finding another design

[Hypertext]

Flyxa still needing a layout designer:)

[Klydo]

Here's the thing Charlie, if you wanted to secure his layout as yours then you should of placed copyright to Flyxa on it. Otherwise it's his and he has the right to do whatever he wants with it, even if you have got it on your site he can still remove it.

I don't see how you can expect someone to design and code a website design for only an admin account on "Flyxa" especially when you have no proof of profit nor any popularity in the site. I expect to never see Flyxa online let alone making money as you haven't thought through the plan at all. With Klydo Caleb and myself have sat down and worked out all the places we can target for improvement or development upon the current social networks. From what I can expect from your knowledge is basically a site which copies the simple things from MySpace, as you have a past of copying ideas and designs directly from people. Especially Zedtu when you copied our entire site.

Flyxa will fail, there is no doubt about it. You're too young and naive to notice the pure amount of work that goes into a social network. With Klydo we've had to plan an large marketing programme just to get anywhere and with your abilities you will get no where.

[Agnostic Bear]

Here's the thing Charlie, if you wanted to secure his layout as yours then you should of placed copyright to Flyxa on it. Otherwise it's his and he has the right to do whatever he wants with it, even if you have got it on your site he can still remove it.

I don't see how you can expect someone to design and code a website design for only an admin account on "Flyxa" especially when you have no proof of profit nor any popularity in the site. I expect to never see Flyxa online let alone making money as you haven't thought through the plan at all. With Klydo Caleb and myself have sat down and worked out all the places we can target for improvement or development upon the current social networks. From what I can expect from your knowledge is basically a site which copies the simple things from MySpace, as you have a past of copying ideas and designs directly from people. Especially Zedtu when you copied our entire site.

Flyxa will fail, there is no doubt about it. You're too young and naive to notice the pure amount of work that goes into a social network. With Klydo we've had to plan an large marketing programme just to get anywhere and with your abilities you will get no where.

I don't see how you can expect someone to design and code a website design for only an admin account on "Klydo" especially when you have no proof of profit nor any popularity in the site. I expect to never see Klydo online let alone making money as you haven't thought through the plan at all.

Klydo will fail, there is no doubt about it. You're too young and naive to notice the pure amount of work that goes into a social network. With Jewbear I've had to plan a large site structure including 3 files, an error handler and 2 folders and upload files just to get my site online and with your abilities (which you can't code, neither of you) you will get nowhere.

[Hypertext]

Greg by sitting down I assume you mean an msn conversation. :rolleyes: Flyxa is actually going quite well, a few things have already been coded, for instance the basic profile structure, registration, confirmation, and the user table (That was hard...). Maybe you should be worrying about your own social network instead of putting down others, to be honest I think you're afraid of a bit of competition, you need to stop thinking your all that and start thinking about your own stuff.

All you do is do a design, Caleb actually builds the entire system, and codes it all. I can code pretty well and Flyxa is well on its way. I happen to have one hellava lot of time to do this.

And am expecting it open late summer/early autumn. I hope Klydo goes well. I don't think it will fail. (Omg positivity on habboxforum! Someone take a picture...)

There you go... another person being "ageist" again, it never stops does it. I do notice the PURE amount of work that'll need to go into it. But if you got a bit of a view of things maybe. For instance, take somebody like mozart, he noticed the PURE amount of work that would need to go into righting his songs, and what did he do at such a young age? HE DID IT!

If nobody ever has decent goals or strives for something good nothing will ever get done!

With my abilities? I have pretty good PHP abilities, and you have none so you can stop right there. I can tell your comeback "I meant marketing.. [insert insult]" In which case, no I don't have much marketing expertise, but I'm willing to gain some, I can ask people who will help me, I can get advise, I can get help.

I don't have to do everything on myself, for instance Josh is working fabulously on some graphics, and I've had more people contact me about Flyxa.

And I don't believe you have any proof of profit, maybe some popularity, but when you posted a hype thread you got what 3 pages and then the thread died (watch the ressurection...).

And actually know, I've been doing quite a big of research recently on the topic, and have got quite a few people telling me some features that they'd like to see on a social networking site, such as 'My Links' a feature where the user can enter their top websites, and it'll always be their on the right so they can use it as their homepage.

So if you want to just put down other peoples work, do so, but I intend to succeed, and maybe you don't believe it, but I will.

[/rant]

- Charlie

[DarrenToogood]

Hello there,

At the moment I am free to do some design work as it is the Easter (bit late) Holidays. If you could email me the full details of the template, including colour schemes, exsisting graphics, fonts etc I can draw you up a template.

Please also could you include your budget in GBP. My email address is: [email protected]

[RYANNNNN]

This thread is so funny.

[Bojangles]

I don't see how you can expect someone to design and code a website design for only an admin account on "Klydo" especially when you have no proof of profit nor any popularity in the site. I expect to never see Klydo online let alone making money as you haven't thought through the plan at all.

Klydo will fail, there is no doubt about it. You're too young and naive to notice the pure amount of work that goes into a social network. With Jewbear I've had to plan a large site structure including 3 files, an error handler and 2 folders and upload files just to get my site online and with your abilities (which you can't code, neither of you) you will get nowhere.
LOL COMEDIAN


Hello there,

At the moment I am free to do some design work as it is the Easter (bit late) Holidays. If you could email me the full details of the template, including colour schemes, exsisting graphics, fonts etc I can draw you up a template.

Please also could you include your budget in GBP. My email address is: [email protected]
ALSO A COMEDIAN LOL.

Back to business, I can't see Klydo failing due to caleb posting the screenies of the system, also I'm not sticking up for greg here as he has his own two legs to stand on but around his town gregs helped alot of people and is int contact with ALOT of people so Klydo COULD take off.

As more flyxa, I'm in no state to judge it as I've seen no work. But aslong as you stick at it and keep on when the going gets tough you will get there.

Best of luck to both of you.

[iTech]

I'm sorry, but I'd rather die, than see Darren Toogood design graphics for this site.

[RYANNNNN]

I dunno what the fuss is about, that design was **** and wasn't worth the canvas it was designed on.

[Bojangles]

I dunno what the fuss is about, that design was **** and wasn't worth the canvas it was designed on.
No need to get like that, dude.

[NEW-START]

Hello there,

At the moment I am free to do some design work as it is the Easter (bit late) Holidays. If you could email me the full details of the template, including colour schemes, exsisting graphics, fonts etc I can draw you up a template.

Please also could you include your budget in GBP. My email address is: [email protected]

I'm sure most of us would rather eat our own faces than have you design something. You're not at great design standards and waste most peoples time.


No need to get like that, dude.

He's free to his opinion, and I can clearly see where he is coming from. The design is overrated by people who are either new or oblivious to designing.

[iTech]

Too right NEW-START.
Darren, we don't want your help, or even the thought of you helping.
You have "Host Suite" to develop. :rolleyes:

Still looking for the designer. :)

[Bojangles]

NEW-START, So your saying FlorX, Invent!, [oli] don't know what design is? Shutup.

[NEW-START]

NEW-START, So your saying FlorX, Invent!, [oli] don't know what design is? Shutup.

I'd rather you never told me to "shutup" and acted more grown up.

And no, I never. I said: "[it] is overrated by people who are either new or oblivious to designing," which means that those peole who scream "OMFGGGGGGGGGG I LOVE IT I PAYING £100 HERE," are "either new or oblivious to designing."

Wrong end of the stick, sir!

[Bojangles]

Ahh I see, my bad.

[Klydo]

@Charlie; You think the only thing I do is design? Have you not noticed I'm the one who codes the frontends of all Zedtu's sites. Yes, the bit you steal. So if I have no skill then you must be a lot lower. Everyone thinks it's Caleb who codes the designs but it's not, it's me. I sit getting it all perfect and getting it valid then most people just think it was Caleb who done it. No, it was me. So stop saying "all you do is design" as I do a lot more than just that.

[Bojangles]

Yeah, greg codes and designs. Caleb does the more techy stuff like the system and core I presume. Last time I spoke with greg he knew full html, css and some PHP but he must have learn't stuff from caleb now so :P. Anyway, josh checked to see if the coding is valid CSS and it is :P

[NEW-START]

@Charlie; You think the only thing I do is design? Have you not noticed I'm the one who codes the frontends of all Zedtu's sites. Yes, the bit you steal. So if I have no skill then you must be a lot lower. Everyone thinks it's Caleb who codes the designs but it's not, it's me. I sit getting it all perfect and getting it valid then most people just think it was Caleb who done it. No, it was me. So stop saying "all you do is design" as I do a lot more than just that.

And PR, sir!

[Agnostic Bear]

@Charlie; You think the only thing I do is design? Have you not noticed I'm the one who codes the frontends of all Zedtu's sites. Yes, the bit you steal. So if I have no skill then you must be a lot lower. Everyone thinks it's Caleb who codes the designs but it's not, it's me. I sit getting it all perfect and getting it valid then most people just think it was Caleb who done it. No, it was me. So stop saying "all you do is design" as I do a lot more than just that.

Lets see what else you can do apart from that when caleb basically makes the site:


Complain about macintosh
Buy new skinny jeans
Complain about new skinny jeans
Slit wrists
Listen to music on your very bulky jewTunes
Try and snuff Caleb out as soon as the site is up and runningSo yeah, good luck with that.

[Dentafrice]

I offer you an admin account on Flyxa and a great piece for your portfolio!

Jimbo, wants 50is pounds for the layout. Originally 0 ;/ still. =]

Who cares, he gets an admin account on a social networking site that has very "beginner" coding, that is going to explode on server resources, and isn't going to make it.

He wants money, not a job.


I'm not jumping into an arguement here,

But I'm sure many would agree here.
You're selling a layout, looks good on the portfolio sure.

But, keeping it with a sucessful Social network, and earning off that.
Will make you look even Better.

You are saying that because you work for "flyniux" or whatever, I can't even remember it.

That is one reason it isn't going to make it.

And how does he know that it is going to be a "successful" social network? With coding like Reconix's, it is going to be nothing but a space on the web that sits their with a tiny user fanbase.

I see arguing already, which is building up a negative fanbase.


Klydo isn't arguing :P

[Invent]

Who cares, he gets an admin account on a social networking site that has very "beginner" coding, that is going to explode on server resources, and isn't going to make it.Stop putting him down! We could all say the fact someone has offered you a good amount of money (or so you say) for your SN is ridiculous seeing as it has no user base, no advertising and seeing as it is is currently no different to any SN site out there!

[Dentafrice]

Stop putting him down! We could all say the fact someone has offered you a good amount of money (or so you say) for your SN is ridiculous seeing as it has no user base, no advertising and seeing as it is is currently no different to any SN site out there!

Habbox is the last site we have even mentioned it on, there are small number of user bases on various other sites, that are very interested in Klydo.

We have also had a few e-mails from investors wishing to purchase the site, which we have declined, as it is not for sale.

People buy things every day, that are new, that they see as "interesting", and a good investment.

At putting him down:

I am telling him the truth. Nothing but the truth, and I believe he can stand up for himself without you Simon..

[Klydo]

Lets see what else you can do apart from that when caleb basically makes the site:

Complain about macintosh
Buy new skinny jeans
Complain about new skinny jeans
Slit wrists
Listen to music on your very bulky jewTunes
Try and snuff Caleb out as soon as the site is up and runningSo yeah, good luck with that.
What are you on about :S I never complain about Macs, I never buy skinny jean nor complain about them. I'd find it hard to slit my wrists as I quite like my wrists intact. Oh haha you made a funny about iTunes which doesn't even rhyme. Why would I "snuff" Caleb out as soon as the site is up and running since it's a two man site. If that was the case I would of snuffed him out after he finished the backend for Zedtu, as at the time we weren't planning any more sites. So you're just jumping to conclusions. If that has anything to do with MyBobba and the various owners it had with me, then you haven't heard the full story. Joe and Dan were both under skilled for what I needed, neither could code, design or work vBulletin. That's the only time I've had to get rid of a co-owner of any site. I would be mad if I let Caleb go from a site which we both have 50% in, as that legally means he'd then sell his half.

[Hypertext]

Thanks for anyone with any positivity in this thread.

Dentafrice, I also find it hard to believe you were offered 6,000USD considering theres free ones out there better than it, until theres something to show..

[Dentafrice]

Thanks for anyone with any positivity in this thread.

Dentafrice, I also find it hard to believe you were offered 6,000USD considering theres free ones out there better than it, until theres something to show..
There already has been something to show. Are you blind?

This is just going back to you, you are being a hypocrite, by saying "there is nothing to show", when you are offering an "admin" position on a site (seems a bit desperate), just for a layout..

I thought you were a "designer" as your signature implies:

"Charlie Kirk
- Senior Designer"

[Hypertext]

1. we went through the designer thing
2. When I said something to show, I meant something to show, other than a basic functioning social networking site thats worse than the free: phpizabi.

[Klydo]

Thanks for anyone with any positivity in this thread.

Dentafrice, I also find it hard to believe you were offered 6,000USD considering theres free ones out there better than it, until theres something to show..
Don't believe it then, it wasn't meant to be public knowledge but I take it Caleb told everyone already :P I didn't want it told to anyone as their is no point and people just get grudges. Still the offer isn't nearly enough for us to even consider selling as we value our system as our strong point of Klydo, which with the work and time it can be worth a lot more than we'll ever need. The reason it is so high is because it's all custom built and has much greater features and build on ability than you'll find in any free software you can get from people such a Boonix.

But this isn't about Klydo, it's about Flyxa so back on topic :P Have you tried buying one from a template site?

[Hypertext]

I did a few googles on variations of social networking templates, but it all came up with jobs on freelancer sites. Do you know any good template sites?

[Klydo]

www.4templates.com

[Dentafrice]

1. we went through the designer thing
2. When I said something to show, I meant something to show, other than a basic functioning social networking site thats worse than the free: phpizabi.

It is not "worse then a free" social networking site, in no way is it.

Those things are cheap looking, for people who cannot code their own.

I would love to see you attempt, to code something as stable as Klydo, with what I have seen of yours, you won't get past the first stage.

[Hypertext]

Anyone seen any good ones on their, I have to go slow as theres no specific social network option.

[Dentafrice]

Anyone seen any good ones on their, I have to go slow as theres no specific social network option.
There is no just specific category for "social networking" site, most do make their own..

[timROGERS]

I might be interested in doing a layout for you, but I wouldn't do it for an admin account on your site, it's simply not worth my time and effort.

[iTech]

There already has been something to show. Are you blind?

This is just going back to you, you are being a hypocrite, by saying "there is nothing to show", when you are offering an "admin" position on a site (seems a bit desperate), just for a layout..

I thought you were a "designer" as your signature implies:

"Charlie Kirk
- Senior Designer"

Designer can broken into various sub-categories, you could say.


Web media designer
Concept Designer
Publicational DesignerConceptual design, is as in it's name, concept.
So that could be the core, system. Backend, front end whatever really.

[Klydo]

Design is visual, otherwise it's not design. You could claim that "code" is visual when you're making it however the design would be the layout of the code, not the actual code. Therefore you can't say "Designer" when the majority of it is coding. Therefore you're a "Coder", unless all he does is do the layout of the coding such as commenting and making it tidy and readable.

[iTech]

Design is visual, otherwise it's not design. You could claim that "code" is visual when you're making it however the design would be the layout of the code, not the actual code. Therefore you can't say "Designer" when the majority of it is coding. Therefore you're a "Coder", unless all he does is do the layout of the coding such as commenting and making it tidy and readable.


Wrong, as with CSS, you can produce a "design".
And design is mainly concept until you finish the final piece.

[Klydo]

No that's the output not the input that's creating the design. The main aspect of CSS is coding, therefore you're a coder not a designer first. If you created something in Photoshop then you're "designing" however if you create something using CSS then you're coding. Yes there is an aspect of design in it as the output is what you're making, however you won't find CSS under design on tutorial sites or w3.org as it's coding.