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jrh2002
12-04-2008, 01:58 PM
I think paying managers and above is far more negative that positive.
People who take payment are here for the wrong reasons and I believe when a person is ready to leave Habbox they stay on to long just to keep picking up the few pounds per month and do less work so the department suffers. Maybe a bonus system would be better depending on department performance. I think that most department managers should be seen on habbo alot should be paid in habbo furni or habbo creds to keep the interested in habbo.

Dont worry people they dont get alot and less than a paper round if they only have one job but the more positions held of manager and above the more you get.

I never expected a penny and when offered I refused but would love to know the people who are meant to be voluntary to do a job they love are really here just for the few pounds a month and if it was stopped how many would abandon ship.

today
12-04-2008, 01:59 PM
I do belive some managers refuse payment.

Wootzeh
12-04-2008, 02:00 PM
I doubt any of them currently work for the money itself, the money is just a small thankyou for the work. And I don't think this thread is really needed.

-Xiangu-
12-04-2008, 02:00 PM
I am pretty sure it is only about a pound a month. Nothing to cry over really.

jrh2002
12-04-2008, 02:00 PM
I do belive some managers refuse payment.

Yes they do.

Thought you were never going to read my threads/posts again? :eusa_wall
put me on ignore.

timROGERS
12-04-2008, 02:00 PM
Most managers don't take their payment. When I was HxHD manager I ran a "Helper of the Month" department competition and the winner got my pay in VIP.

Immenseman
12-04-2008, 02:01 PM
I have never requested payment or VIP in my 14 months in Habbox Management and I never plan to.

today
12-04-2008, 02:01 PM
Yes they do.

Thought you were never going to read my threads/posts again? :eusa_wall
put me on ignore.


Most managers don't take their payment. When I was HxHD manager I ran a "Helper of the Month" department competition and the winner got my pay in VIP.

Hmm. Jrh maybe read other posts too? As i said not all managers accept pay. :rolleyes:

GhostFace-
12-04-2008, 02:02 PM
" what do you do for a living "
" oh i watch 13 year olds spam on forums"

yea bad idea ›.›

jrh2002
12-04-2008, 02:02 PM
Most managers don't take their payment. When I was HxHD manager I ran a "Helper of the Month" department competition and the winner got my pay in VIP.

Thats really good and a great way to help the department run smoothly.
+ Rep if i can

Blinger1
12-04-2008, 02:02 PM
want a medal?

I don't think they should get paid tbh.

jrh2002
12-04-2008, 02:04 PM
Hmm. Jrh maybe read other posts too? As i said not all managers accept pay. :rolleyes:

I meant yes some do refuse it and was agreeing but it never come over clear enough

Stop reading my posts as promised.

dirrty
12-04-2008, 02:04 PM
since its not a lot of money, whats the problem :S

if it was a reasonable amount them being paid, then i would understand. but since its a few pounds, who cares.

jackass
12-04-2008, 02:04 PM
I think that most department managers should be seen on habbo alot should be paid in habbo furni or habbo creds to keep the interested in habbo.

Are you being serious? :S
That is the worst idea I have ever heard, sorry.

They should be paid for working & managing the site.

today
12-04-2008, 02:05 PM
I meant yes some do refuse it and was agreeing but it never come over clear enough

Stop reading my posts as promised.
I never promised anything? :eusa_clap


since its not a lot of money, whats the problem :S

if it was a reasonable amount them being paid, then i would understand. but since its a few pounds, who cares.
True.

Though whta Tim was doing was a bloody good idea tbh.

Inseriousity.
12-04-2008, 02:07 PM
Habbox Management get paid?? Well, you learn something new everyday (lmao, I never know things like this). If it's only a few pounds, it shouldn't matter tbh. It's the owner's money in the end and they can spend it however they please on management, the site, charity, a boozeup down the local!! :P

today
12-04-2008, 02:09 PM
Yeah but you have to be mgmt for 'x' months i think..

jrh2002
12-04-2008, 02:11 PM
Should be a bonus system and not guaranteed. You have a really hard working manager and one doing alot less and they get paid the same? not a good idea. The amount has nothing to do with it and getting it regardless of perforamance is not the way forward.

Maybe the ppl choosing not to accept should get their payments sent to a charity of their choice? would be a shame not to put it to good use.

@Wootzeh
I read my habbo perm bans when deleting old emails and had the pleasure of yours ;) shame they unbanned everybody.

jackass
12-04-2008, 02:12 PM
I think you should be paid per hour activily online. £3.00 per hour i'd say.

today
12-04-2008, 02:13 PM
Should be a bonus system and not guaranteed. You have a really hard working manager and one doing alot less and they get paid the same? not a good idea. The amount has nothing to do with it and getting it regardless of perforamance is not the way forward.

Maybe the ppl choosing not to accept should get their payments sent to a charity of their choice? would be a shame not to put it to good use.

@Wootzeh
I read my habbo perm bans when deleting old emails and had the pleasure of yours ;) shame they unbanned everybody.
Why its probally just like £2. i know 'ever bit helps' but honestly it wont make that much of a difference and goes to server instead.


I think you should be paid per hour activily online. £3.00 per hour i'd say.
Best idea ever, lol.

Wootzeh
12-04-2008, 02:14 PM
Should be a bonus system and not guaranteed. You have a really hard working manager and one doing alot less and they get paid the same? not a good idea. The amount has nothing to do with it and getting it regardless of perforamance is not the way forward.

Maybe the ppl choosing not to accept should get their payments sent to a charity of their choice? would be a shame not to put it to good use.

@Wootzeh
I read my habbo perm bans when deleting old emails and had the pleasure of yours ;) shame they unbanned everybody.
Which Habbo was that? =]

jrh2002
12-04-2008, 02:18 PM
Which Habbo was that? =]

wootzy i think lol


This is not a DO NOT PAY PEOPLE THREAD its more a pay people for their performance :s yes its only a few pounds but maybe a manager performing well should get £10 and others not well should get 50p each lol

If theres regualr pay then its classed as a job so I am reporting Habbox for not paying managers the minimum wage.

PaulMacC
12-04-2008, 02:19 PM
I havent request payment, yet.
I probably dont plan to unless it's for prizes now.

VPSwow
12-04-2008, 02:20 PM
If theres regualr pay then its classed as a job so I am reporting Habbox for not paying managers the minimum wage.

Surely that is very childish?
It is up to Sierk if he wishes to pay a small sum for volenteer work and it is upto the managers to accept it.

jrh2002
12-04-2008, 02:21 PM
Surely that is very childish?
It is up to Sierk if he wishes to pay a small sum for volenteer work and it is upto the managers to accept it.

Surely that was a sarcastic remark after somebody said ppl should get £3 an hour? :rolleyes:

JackHb
12-04-2008, 02:23 PM
I didn't take payment when I worked here, when i got my job it clearly stated and still states on Habbox that you will not be paid and that it is vouluntary.
I worked on here because I enjoyed it and as soon as you start doing it for money the whole scenario changes.

Thats my opinion anyway.

jrh2002
12-04-2008, 02:25 PM
I didn't take payment when I worked here, when i got my job it clearly stated and still states on Habbox that you will not be paid and that it is vouluntary.
I worked on here because I enjoyed it soon as you start doing it for money the whole scenario changes.

Thats my opinion anyway.

:eusa_clap

today
12-04-2008, 02:26 PM
*Removed*
as its "not his way" anymore.

jrh2002
12-04-2008, 02:27 PM
*Removed*

What am I argueing over? I said that i think a performanced based pay system would be better :S I never created pay for staff :S I suggest you stop using drugs and if your not then you should consider starting.

-Xiangu-
12-04-2008, 02:33 PM
What the hell? Your so completely negative! Calling someone a perv too!

Wootzeh
12-04-2008, 02:33 PM
What am I argueing over? I said that i think a performanced based pay system would be better :S I never created pay for staff :S I suggest you stop using drugs and if your not then you should consider starting.
It really is getting boring seeing you using the feedback forum more than the actual forum itself.

jrh2002
12-04-2008, 02:34 PM
as its "not his way" anymore.

Obviously you were never around when i was forum owner or else you would know everything was discussed and although I owned Sierk was given the final decision unless I was dead against something and then we would compromise. HxF was of course put here for Habbox and Sierk was the owner so it was the right thing to do.

I love how you comment on things you know nothing about :eusa_clap

Feedback is a way of giving opinions on something and then ideas if you had not noticed :S

today
12-04-2008, 02:34 PM
Obviously you were never around when i was forum owner or else you would know everything was discussed and although I owned Sierk was given the final decision unless I was dead against something and then we would compromise. HxF was of course put here for Habbox and Sierk was the owner so it was the right thing to do.

I love how you comment on things you know nothing about :eusa_clap

Feedback is a way of giving opinions on something and then ideas if you had not noticed :S
i was around when you owned so shh child please.

Edited by --ss-- (Forum Super Moderator): Please do not be rude ;).

-Xiangu-
12-04-2008, 02:35 PM
*Removed*


You say we are all raving teenagers so.

1. Why are you here if you dislike us all so much
2. Your acting extremely immaturely now. Get over yourself

Have a Nice Day

-Xiangu-
12-04-2008, 02:38 PM
Yeah. but we at least voiced a serious opinion. It seems you are only trying to cause trouble.

le harry
12-04-2008, 02:39 PM
fight fight fight

today
12-04-2008, 02:39 PM
OH god, your signature explains everything.

-Xiangu-
12-04-2008, 02:40 PM
that isn't an opinion that is an insult

JackHb
12-04-2008, 02:41 PM
*Removed*

I thought you had to be connected to the biggest idiot around (Earthquake) and I clicked on your profile and up it comes "I am Earthquake"

The C word springs to my mind [(Cabbage) before my infractions race up again! - To the mods x]

Im going out so i cant c my insults towards me until later x

e5
12-04-2008, 02:41 PM
I think paying managers and above is far more negative that positive.
People who take payment are here for the wrong reasons and I believe when a person is ready to leave Habbox they stay on to long just to keep picking up the few pounds per month and do less work so the department suffers. Maybe a bonus system would be better depending on department performance. I think that most department managers should be seen on habbo alot should be paid in habbo furni or habbo creds to keep the interested in habbo.

Dont worry people they dont get alot and less than a paper round if they only have one job but the more positions held of manager and above the more you get.

I never expected a penny and when offered I refused but would love to know the people who are meant to be voluntary to do a job they love are really here just for the few pounds a month and if it was stopped how many would abandon ship.

I actually fully agree with that. People stay on for the few extra pounds while the department could suffer. AGREEED

-Xiangu-
12-04-2008, 02:42 PM
Barely any of the managers take the cash tbh.

Wootzeh
12-04-2008, 02:42 PM
I actually fully agree with that. People stay on for the few extra pounds while the department could suffer. AGREEED
No, because the staff aren't working here for the money, you're just jealous you're not getting paid for being on Habbo.

Nain
12-04-2008, 02:43 PM
i think that the managers shouldn't be payed unless there paying for part of the website.

Its a bit of a stupid thing to do tbh.
If i was a manager i would refuse the payment - or use it for a VIP competition as TIM said :)

jrh2002
12-04-2008, 02:52 PM
*Removed*

Perks of the job? jealous? sorry I forgot theres no under 5 male dj's about for you undress.

Well done on the mods of this forum for letting this low life keep posting :rolleyes:

Its feedback and not negative or positive its just ideassssssssssssssssssss the people who are replying to me negativly instead of putting ideas over are the ones who should keep out the feedback forum.

jrh2002
12-04-2008, 02:56 PM
*Removed*

Grow up little boy and go and play with your little brother jsut how you like it.

danandthe3gifts
12-04-2008, 02:58 PM
A forum works best when the staff aren't being paid, you have to enjoy what your doing to get any work done. :)

jrh2002
12-04-2008, 03:00 PM
*Removed*

If I have no family how can i live in my mothers loft?
I am quite a private person and pick and choose my friends :)
You struggle to pick and choose and also like to make out your so special by being the biggest liar ever to venture onto HxF. Maybe you get a life instead of making it up and accusing people you dont know a thing about of things?

FEEDBACK

Mods of the feedback forum are crap at their job.

Qampo
12-04-2008, 03:01 PM
mad is crazy

danandthe3gifts
12-04-2008, 03:02 PM
Why does Sixteen post about how sad we are sitting here discussing how a forum works yet so does he? - More to the point his posts are very negative.

e5
12-04-2008, 03:02 PM
If I have no family how can i live in my mothers loft?
I am quite a private person and pick and choose my friends :)
You struggle to pick and choose and also like to make out your so special by being the biggest liar ever to venture onto HxF. Maybe you get a life instead of making it up and accusing people you dont know a thing about of things?

FEEDBACK

Mods of the feedback forum are crap at their job.
I wouldn't call that feedback.

at above: LOL you can't say anyones posts are negative.

Immenseman
12-04-2008, 03:04 PM
Maybe some managers like to have it as a little thank you for the work they put in. I personally don't think any manager is here just for the payment. Like I said earlier I never had and never will request payement or free VIP simply because I volunteer to do this work and i'd rather see the money put back into Habbox one way or another :).

jrh2002
12-04-2008, 03:05 PM
I wouldn't call that feedback.

I know its not :( I am being dragged off topic to defend myself just how undertaker was yesterday :s the mods are not good if they cant ban sixteen and the reports are ignored and if they were here i would not have had to make the last 3 or 4 posts i have :s I know you have to be special to mod here but maybe they should consider some regular mods here.

He is now banned and his posts have been erased. WELL DONE and TY

danandthe3gifts
12-04-2008, 03:07 PM
I wouldn't call that feedback.

at above: LOL you can't say anyones posts are negative.

Oh I can Elliot, I was on this forum well before you and know what i'm talking about, unlike you. The difference between your negative posts & my negative posts are that mine are backed up with my opinion, yours however isn't back up and follows the line management would probably like you to follow, eh? :)

Immenseman
12-04-2008, 03:07 PM
I know its not :( I am being dragged off topic to defend myself just how undertaker was yesterday :s the mods are not good if they cant ban sixteen and the reports are ignored and if they were here i would not have had to make the last 3 or 4 posts i have :s I know you have to be special to mod here but maybe they should consider some regular mods here.

I'm sure he was banned as fast as one of the volunteers could ban him.

-Xiangu-
12-04-2008, 03:07 PM
I think I reported 2 of his posts.

The Professor
12-04-2008, 03:07 PM
As for being paid based on performance - if a manager is doing a bad job, it shows and they don't last long. All managers who get the job and stay in the job for more than a few weeks fully deserve any freebie habbox are offering imo.

I have never requested any payment and don't plan to.

Markness.
12-04-2008, 03:07 PM
Back to the subject :P

I agree-ish with what is being said, the 'pay' should be put into a fund for competitions, advertising etc.
Jrh2002 founded this forum, and clearly isn't happy with some aspects of it, so imo he is quite right to voice his opinons on it.
Wouldn't you be a little ticked off if it were to happen to you?

Alkaz
12-04-2008, 03:08 PM
Thats really good and a great way to help the department run smoothly.
+ Rep if i can
Yes, nintendonews used to award to a staff member of the month and which im going to carry on as dept manager. When i was asst manager I think i was owed £4? something silly like that I havnt been asked if i want it and nor will I ask for it. Most managers or who ever do the job as almost a hobby because they want to. The money sierk offered in my eyes is nothing more than an incentive?

I can see both sides of they story and imo have good cases. Also I like what jrh said about giving dept managers who do better jobs that others more money but then again surely that would cause conflict and other managers earning less than others could jepodise the department?

Qampo
12-04-2008, 03:08 PM
[QCF]
[QCF]

elo..........

Edited by Nick- (Forum Administrator): Do not post pointlessly.

danandthe3gifts
12-04-2008, 03:09 PM
Back to the subject :P

I agree-ish with what is being said, the 'pay' should be put into a fund for competitions, advertising etc.
Jrh2002 founded this forum, and clearly isn't happy with some aspects of it, so imo he is quite right to voice his opinons on it.
Wouldn't you be a little ticked off if it were to happen to you?

Yep. :)

When I was Assistant Rare Values Manager I took up free VIP, when I was Rare Values Manager I was offered an extra pound or so but turned it down. I'd rather it going into charity funds/improving the site/forum.

-Xiangu-
12-04-2008, 03:10 PM
As for being paid based on performance - if a manager is doing a bad job, it shows and they don't last long. All managers who get the job and stay in the job for more than a few weeks fully deserve any freebie habbox are offering imo.

I have never requested any payment and don't plan to.

You should get vip your horrible maroon sickens me </3

Qampo
12-04-2008, 03:11 PM
Maybe some managers like to have it as a little thank you for the work they put in. I personally don't think any manager is here just for the payment. Like I said earlier I never had and never will request payement or free VIP simply because I volunteer to do this work and i'd rather see the money put back into Habbox one way or another :).


Yep. :)

When I was Assistant Rare Values Manager I took up free VIP, when I was Rare Values Manager I was offered an extra pound or so but turned it down. I'd rather it going into charity funds/improving the site/forum.

look were all those months of work got u

Immenseman
12-04-2008, 03:13 PM
look were all those months of work got u

-:Undertaker:- enjoyed it when he was a manager and I still enjoy it now. Maybe you would't persoally enjoy it but me and -:Undertaker:- did and do.

danandthe3gifts
12-04-2008, 03:14 PM
look were all those months of work got u

I know but I enjoyed it. At least I got the Super Rares a better reputation around that time and got the public involved, which was my downfall nevertheless.

A good idea would be to give each department a donation of £2 a month or so, and the department then votes for someone within that department to recieve the money. It would perhaps, motivate people by adding a little bit of a contest?

-Xiangu-
12-04-2008, 03:15 PM
but then wouldn't working become unfun as you were competing and not just having fun?

danandthe3gifts
12-04-2008, 03:18 PM
but then wouldn't working become unfun as you were competing and not just having fun?

Personally i'd probably enjoy it more. As long as a Department has a good atmosphere to it (like in Mit/my time we spammed and messed about) then all it good. That is one of the reasons I prefered the Rare Values Department to the Articles Department. The Articles Department was rather 'dead' and the Rare Values Department was buzzing. :P

The Professor
12-04-2008, 03:19 PM
Personally i'd probably enjoy it more. As long as a Department has a good atmosphere to it (like in Mit/my time we spammed and messed about) then all it good. That is one of the reasons I prefered the Rare Values Department to the Articles Department. The Articles Department was rather 'dead' and the Rare Values Department was buzzing. :P

Aha, but you're not here now ;) We're mental these days, if people are formal they get red writing all over their posts :P

-Xiangu-
12-04-2008, 03:20 PM
Yes. I beleive I posted rude words in egypt talk a few moments ago :o

Slowpoke
12-04-2008, 03:20 PM
Surely if the department started to slip the manager would be taken in for a word and if the department stayed at that level the manager would be fired?

Immenseman
12-04-2008, 03:20 PM
Personally i'd probably enjoy it more. As long as a Department has a good atmosphere to it (like in Mit/my time we spammed and messed about) then all it good. That is one of the reasons I prefered the Rare Values Department to the Articles Department. The Articles Department was rather 'dead' and the Rare Values Department was buzzing. :P

The RVR spam thread has over 400 pages now, haha. Still buzzing :8!

danandthe3gifts
12-04-2008, 03:21 PM
Aha, but you're not here now ;) We're mental these days, if people are formal they get red writing all over their posts :P

Haha, I have heard about the Articles Department being more like a wacky warehouse, anyway it doesn't suprise me with you incharge afterall, you came from the hyperactive group we had working in the RVD :P

-Xiangu-
12-04-2008, 03:22 PM
I never knew Alex worked in rare values. TRAITOR

The Professor
12-04-2008, 03:23 PM
Haha, I have heard about the Articles Department being more like a wacky warehouse, anyway it doesn't suprise me with you incharge afterall, you came from the hyperactive group we had working in the RVD :P

Well it seems to be working anyway. we're churning out articles like there's no tomorrow :P

<plug> when all these flamefest threads have stopped, keep an eye on the feedback forums, there'll be something you'll probably like ;) </plug>

@James: Yeah that was a while ago now, it was pretty tame compared to us :P Dan was a rather sexy manager though

jrh2002
12-04-2008, 03:24 PM
Back to the subject :P

I agree-ish with what is being said, the 'pay' should be put into a fund for competitions, advertising etc.
Jrh2002 founded this forum, and clearly isn't happy with some aspects of it, so imo he is quite right to voice his opinons on it.
Wouldn't you be a little ticked off if it were to happen to you?

I am not bothered if they pay them or not i am just suggesting that getting regular pay might have adverse effects. I think the best times were when i was just the radio owner as I kept out of all forum issues etc and concentrated on something I enjoyed. I think the best times were with properclone and jackhb doing amazing jobs and I was no part of habbox then :) thats the peak for me but when i was here i enjoyed pushing the place forward and believe I did a good job with that :)


Yes, nintendonews used to award to a staff member of the month and which im going to carry on as dept manager. When i was asst manager I think i was owed £4? something silly like that I havnt been asked if i want it and nor will I ask for it. Most managers or who ever do the job as almost a hobby because they want to. The money sierk offered in my eyes is nothing more than an incentive?

I can see both sides of they story and imo have good cases. Also I like what jrh said about giving dept managers who do better jobs that others more money but then again surely that would cause conflict and other managers earning less than others could jepodise the department?

You do see some great managers who take their departments to a new level but then after a long time you can see it going backwards a little instead of leaving before it dropped. I know its hard to know when you have done what you can but when it feels more often than not like your forcing yourself to do things than wanting to do them is a sign and I believe that getting regular pay is also another SMALL incentive in stopping them go when they should.


-:Undertaker:- enjoyed it when he was a manager and I still enjoy it now. Maybe you would't persoally enjoy it but me and -:Undertaker:- did and do.

Most managers at the moment show alot of enthusiasm which is great :)
To the people who seem to think I am complaining because i used to own the forum are wrong :) I lost interest in it so got out which was the right thing to do and have no regrets but I do like to give my opinions on decisions like we all do :)

danandthe3gifts
12-04-2008, 03:25 PM
The RVR spam thread has over 400 pages now, haha. Still buzzing :8!

Is that the Pitch one where it all collapsed after Mit resigned, or the other one (I forget it's name though) :(


I never knew Alex worked in rare values. TRAITOR

Yeah he was very good at a certain type of rare, I think it was super rares but my memory has gone. :8

today
12-04-2008, 03:25 PM
Well it seems to be working anyway. we're churning out articles like there's no tomorrow :P

<plug> when all these flamefest threads have stopped, keep an eye on the feedback forums, there'll be something you'll probably like ;) </plug>

@James: Yeah that was a while ago now, it was pretty tame compared to us :P Dan was a rather sexy manager though
Ahem, my articles were da best innit. :rolleyes:

-Xiangu-
12-04-2008, 03:26 PM
Oh god no!

The Professor
12-04-2008, 03:26 PM
Yeah he was very good at a certain type of rare, I think it was super rares but my memory has gone. :8

I think it was normal rares, I sat in casinos all day and jotted down the occasional trade while being cleaned, it was a good life :P


Ahem, my articles were da best innit. :rolleyes:

Ino herbert :'(

SEEE, Isn't this more fun than arguing?

Immenseman
12-04-2008, 03:27 PM
Is that the Pitch one where it all collapsed after Mit resigned, or the other one (I forget it's name though) :(

Well I created a new one and merged some threads with it to make it look bigger then it is :D. Wow, I forgot about that huge thread when Pitch let his steam out, I must find it and read it now.

today
12-04-2008, 03:27 PM
I think it was normal rares, I sat in casinos all day and jotted down the occasional trade while being cleaned, it was a good life :P



Ino herbert :'(

SEEE, Isn't this more fun than arguing?
i never argue mister!!!

Immenseman
12-04-2008, 03:28 PM
I think it was normal rares, I sat in casinos all day and jotted down the occasional trade while being cleaned, it was a good life :P

That takes me back. I remember we both had rights in BT casino, that must of been 06? Feels like ages ago now.

-Xiangu-
12-04-2008, 03:29 PM
I think it was normal rares, I sat in casinos all day and jotted down the occasional trade while being cleaned, it was a good life :P



Ino herbert :'(

SEEE, Isn't this more fun than arguing?

I prefer "Debating" to arguing.

danandthe3gifts
12-04-2008, 03:30 PM
I think it was normal rares, I sat in casinos all day and jotted down the occasional trade while being cleaned, it was a good life :P



Ino herbert :'(

SEEE, Isn't this more fun than arguing?

Oh I see, maybe I was thinking of Kaytti because you and Kaytti were always thought of as the goody-two-shoes' :P. One of you were really good at supers, grr forget who it was now, maybe Aaron, I dunno. :(


Well I created a new one and merged some threads with it to make it look bigger then it is :D. Wow, I forgot about that huge thread when Pitch let his steam out, I must find it and read it now.

Haha and don't forget to merge all the threads with the staff leaving because of how angry they were, (I think those were quite large threads) :8

The Professor
12-04-2008, 03:31 PM
That takes me back. I remember we both had rights in BT casino, that must of been 06? Feels like ages ago now.

That's probably because it WAS ages ago :P What happened to BT, didn't he just vanish off the face of the planet one day?


I prefer "Debating" to arguing.

"Moderators are crap" is argument enough for me :P


Oh I see, maybe I was thinking of Kaytti because you and Kaytti were always thought of as the goody-two-shoes' :P. One of you were really good at supers, grr forget who it was now, maybe Aaron, I dunno. :(

MEE?! I believe I didn't report anything at all for about a quarter of the weeks I was there :P It isn't the most fun job tbh, at least with articles you can play around with it a bit. Rare values is all a bit... communist tbh :P I think that's the word I want anyway. Aaron was pure class, not heard from him for aaages

I OFFICIALLY DUB MYSELF ARGUMENT DIFFUSER. THANKU N GOODNIGHT

jrh2002
12-04-2008, 03:31 PM
Surely if the department started to slip the manager would be taken in for a word and if the department stayed at that level the manager would be fired?

Alot of the time its true but when you have somebody who has transformed a department over a year or 2 its very hard to pick them up on performance until its to late. I could name 5 or 6 times this was the case but dont know if it was pay related to why they stopped on. Its easy to do and im not criticising anybody I am just giving my feedback :O

today
12-04-2008, 03:31 PM
That's probably because it WAS ages ago :P What happened to BT, didn't he just vanish off the face of the planet one day?



"Moderators are crap" is argument enough for me :P
the only mod who is crap is dis guy wiv green hair tbhhh!!!

But we have gone off topic alot...

Does managment pay just 'build up' ?

-Xiangu-
12-04-2008, 03:32 PM
I never said that though :(.

The Professor
12-04-2008, 03:35 PM
the only mod who is crap is dis guy wiv green hair tbhhh!!!

But we have gone off topic alot...

Does managment pay just 'build up' ?

I haven't looked into it all that much tbh, I THINK it builds up to 6 "units" (which is either a month of VIP or an amount of money) and then it stays there until you collect it. Idk if I'm supposed to be saying this, its not like its classified info though :P

today
12-04-2008, 03:35 PM
I haven't looked into it all that much tbh, I THINK it builds up to 6 "units" (which is either a month of VIP or an amount of money) and then it stays there until you collect it. Idk if I'm supposed to be saying this, its not like its classified info though :P
lol.

u r fired cus u told me tbh.

Immenseman
12-04-2008, 03:36 PM
Haha and don't forget to merge all the threads with the staff leaving because of how angry they were, (I think those were quite large threads) :8

When new reporting threads were made I put the old ones in there, that probably made it increase by about....200 pages :P.


That's probably because it WAS ages ago :P What happened to BT, didn't he just vanish off the face of the planet one day?

I think he moved on and started selling his rares for some big bucks!

-Xiangu-
12-04-2008, 03:36 PM
Sounds complex to me!

Niko Bellic
12-04-2008, 03:36 PM
I guess people choose whether to take pay or not for a little thank you for their hard work.

jrh2002
12-04-2008, 03:36 PM
the only mod who is crap is dis guy wiv green hair tbhhh!!!

But we have gone off topic alot...

Does managment pay just 'build up' ?

I think if you refuse it then its gone :o
Would be nice not to pay them until the day they left :o imagine 3 years here doing a few managers jobs etc and leaving with a reasonable pay off for a night on the piss :o This could be the way forward unless you get manager leaving then returning just to get a payout :P

today
12-04-2008, 03:37 PM
Or you have to earn 'x' units before you can "cash" out. and if you say no then it goes for other funding as at least that ways its abit more money then a pound.

The Professor
12-04-2008, 03:40 PM
Or you have to earn 'x' units before you can "cash" out. and if you say no then it goes for other funding as at least that ways its abit more money then a pound.

I think its one unit per month, so you have to be doing a decent job for a full month to be entitled to anything.

*Getz firedz 4 leakingz*

today
12-04-2008, 03:41 PM
I think its one unit per month, so you have to be doing a decent job for a full month to be entitled to anything.

*Getz firedz 4 leakingz*
Yeah, but say you have to work for 3 months before you can ewven get any pay =]

The Professor
12-04-2008, 03:43 PM
1 month is a long time, 3 months is a VERY long time :P

today
12-04-2008, 03:44 PM
Exaclty, anyone can manage a department for a month, 3 months shows your real skillz

-Xiangu-
12-04-2008, 03:45 PM
It's not that long.

MissAlice
12-04-2008, 03:46 PM
Pay was introduced whilst I was a Manager here, I never accepted it, because I saw my role here as a privilege and just my opinion volunteers don't normally get rewarded for doing something they enjoy doing, the reward should be the buzz you get out of doing a good job ;)

today
12-04-2008, 03:46 PM
Pay was introduced whilst I was a Manager here, I never accepted it, because I saw my role here as a privilege and just my opinion volunteers don't normally get rewarded for doing something they enjoy doing, the reward should be the buzz you get out of doing a good job ;)
And i belive most managers agree with you ;0

Yum999
12-04-2008, 03:51 PM
Haven't read the full topic (I'm too time strapped because I'm working so hard as a manager :P) so forgive me if this has already been stated, but just so you know...

An Assistant Department Manager recieves £1 per month, or £12 per year.
A Department Manager recieves £2 per month, or £24 per year.
An Assistant General Manager recieves £4 a month, or £48 a year.

Now, personally I have never requested or actually been offered any money, and to be perfectly honest I'm not too bothered. I know quite a few managers simply refuse payment. If I were to be offered any money, it would be donated in the form of VIP to my reporters, as they probably work harder than me and get little recognition.

However, I think the payment system should remain in place, because some managers have been at Habbox for quite a few years, and have climbed up the ranks by working very hard (I can't claim to be one of these), so I think they are entitled to claim a little money in return for their services, should they want to.

sierk
13-04-2008, 11:42 AM
The system we have now you can't really call payments, as it's too little for that. It is more like a bonus. Assistant managers can have 1 pound per month or vip for 1 person, and managers 2 pounds or vip for 2 persons. Since we don't give any free vip for managers, I think this is very little.
And I think it is nice that managers get a little bit back for all their effort, as they are the ones who keep Habbox running.
Nobody in their right mind would spend all the hours of work that managers do each month for just 1 or 2 pounds, so I don't think you have to worry about managers doing it for this.
Besides, I haven't had time to give out the manager payments in many months, so most managers have never received anything anyway.



I think paying managers and above is far more negative that positive.
People who take payment are here for the wrong reasons and I believe when a person is ready to leave Habbox they stay on to long just to keep picking up the few pounds per month and do less work so the department suffers. Maybe a bonus system would be better depending on department performance. I think that most department managers should be seen on habbo alot should be paid in habbo furni or habbo creds to keep the interested in habbo.

Dont worry people they dont get alot and less than a paper round if they only have one job but the more positions held of manager and above the more you get.

I never expected a penny and when offered I refused but would love to know the people who are meant to be voluntary to do a job they love are really here just for the few pounds a month and if it was stopped how many would abandon ship.

Dan2nd
13-04-2008, 11:53 AM
I think I was assistant manager for HxTV for four months then assistant manager for HxHD for four months last year again and now I'm assistant manager again so i think I'm owed £8 :O ... I'd never ask for it though because working at Habbox for me is a fun thing I do in my spare time and I'm sure the money (even though it's very little) can be better used somewhere else :P

jackass
13-04-2008, 01:17 PM
I still think it should be £1-3 per hour ACTIVELY online. :8

(A damn lot less then any other job!)

--ss--
13-04-2008, 01:19 PM
I still think it should be £1-3 per hour ACTIVELY online. :8

(A damn lot less then any other job!)
And where is all the money going to come from?

Excellent
13-04-2008, 01:26 PM
I personally do not agree with payment. There are alot of people on this forum who would do a hard working job on this forum for free, because they enjoy the forum.

Being payed to work puts you in the mind set of "Oh if I do x ammount of hours work today I will get x ammount of money at the end of the month!"

That is not what I call a volunteer, I call that a money hungry hooligan.

But as the same hard working staff need to be applauded for the job they do, just don't bring $$'s into it.

Thanks, Gork.

GommeInc
13-04-2008, 01:28 PM
And where is all the money going to come from?
Money currently wasted on the chat obvs :D

No point paying per hour, people would get alot of money out of that if they sit at the PC all day...

dirrty
13-04-2008, 01:30 PM
I personally do not agree with payment. There are alot of people on this forum who would do a hard working job on this forum for free, because they enjoy the forum.

Being payed to work puts you in the mind set of "Oh if I do x ammount of hours work today I will get x ammount of money at the end of the month!"

That is not what I call a volunteer, I call that a money hungry hooligan.

But as the same hard working staff need to be applauded for the job they do, just don't bring $$'s into it.

Thanks, Gork.
i highly doubt the managers think like that, considering they get paid a 1/2/4 quid a month :rolleyes:

Excellent
13-04-2008, 01:32 PM
i highly doubt the managers think like that, considering they get paid a 1/2/4 quid a month :rolleyes:
Maybe so but 1 x 12 = 12 so £12.00 a year is still money (FOR ASSISTANTS) 2 x 12 = 24 so £24.00 (MANAGERS) The odds are stacked.

Slowpoke
13-04-2008, 02:27 PM
I still think it should be £1-3 per hour ACTIVELY online. :8

(A damn lot less then any other job!)

If you can afford that then go for it, otherwise, Habbox simply couldn't afford it.

jrh2002
13-04-2008, 02:34 PM
I will come clean on the reason I made this thread now :o

I know 1 or 2 people who take payment and was hoping they would read this and realise they are here for the wrong reasons and quit :8

Galaxay
13-04-2008, 02:37 PM
Lol james, they didnt take the hint then :P

And yeah if someones working for the cash then thats too far, as even 24 a year is rubbish, i dont even work and get over 24 a week :S

But i agree with sierk and others, its a bonus, not a payment. They work because they enjoy and like habbox, not because they want £2 a month :P

Personally if i was manager (which we all know will never happen :P), i wouldnt take payment, but might take VIP each month :)

Nereo
13-04-2008, 02:42 PM
I didnt know they got paid I thought it was all voluntary

GommeInc
13-04-2008, 02:56 PM
I'm fascinated as to why people haven't gone crazy and told the management that they don't want their money going to people who don't do their jobs to a satisfactory level. But that in itself would be a crazy idea :P

kerplunkwozere
13-04-2008, 02:59 PM
OH MY GOD, 1 POUND A MONTH. ENOUGH TO START A SCANDAL I SAY!!

Mr.OSH
13-04-2008, 03:20 PM
Well personally I agree that there shouldn't be anyone in a management position who is just here for the money, nor do I think that is the case currently with anyone. I don't take any payment simply because I work for Habbox because I enjoy it and love helping the site. Although I do think it is nice to offer payment to those who may feel they deserve a little incentive for all their hard work and I doubt that this would or is causing any problems.

It is simple really - anyone who isn't doing a good job of managing a department wouldn't be working for Habbox as the standards are high. Really I see no problem here. I also had an idea at one point similar to what Nintendo used to do regarding giving VIP to staff members who work hard, however I forgot about it so + rep, thanks for reminding me. ;)

blackops121
13-04-2008, 03:25 PM
Payment Is Unnesscery People That Have Joined The Managment And Work For It They Do It For The Habbos And The Enjoyment, Not The Money Involved And If They Do Get Offerd Its Of Apprection, Never Should Or Will Be Out Of Greed, Habbox Pick Only The Best Of The Best.

Habbox Need Funding To Keep There Websites Running, So If You Do Get Offerd And Accept, Please Accept Out Of Politness, As It Would Be A Great Pleasure A For A Website To Pay When It Dose Not Need To Pay, When It Needs Its Money.

- Blackops121

jackass
13-04-2008, 03:30 PM
Okay, lets say Managers get paid £3 per day (£1 per hour, no more than £3). There aren't many Managers (Not including assistant!), and Habbox make loads from VIP sales every week! If not this, then half it so its 50p per hour & maximum £1.50. Hardly a lot and Habbox should easily be able to afford it.

Upkeeping the whole forum is a lot of work, Managers deserve pay. :8

JackHb
13-04-2008, 03:58 PM
Okay, lets say Managers get paid £3 per day (£1 per hour, no more than £3). There aren't many Managers (Not including assistant!), and Habbox make loads from VIP sales every week! If not this, then half it so its 50p per hour & maximum £1.50. Hardly a lot and Habbox should easily be able to afford it.

Upkeeping the whole forum is a lot of work, Managers deserve pay. :8

Well I did the payments to the managers on a couple of occasions as Sierk had a lot on and I have an email saved where one payment for 5 people came to 45 pound, it was probably for a good few months back pay as well, but that money could have been used on Habbox.

They should use the money to get staff motivated like one of the managers mentioned he did, do raffles with them or lucky dip etc to win a tenner. As even though managers work hard, lower staff also do too.
Or the money should start paying Sierk back for all the money he has forked out on Habbox

sierk
13-04-2008, 10:11 PM
But there is nothing wrong with accepting the payment as long as you do a good job. And if you don't do a good job you shouldn't stay as manager anyway, so then payment doesn't matter.


I will come clean on the reason I made this thread now :o

I know 1 or 2 people who take payment and was hoping they would read this and realise they are here for the wrong reasons and quit :8

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