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Mr.Sam
15-04-2008, 02:06 PM
THE minister charged with overhauling the NHS is testing a new form of scar-free surgery in which diseased organs are pulled out through the patient’s throat.
Professor Lord Darzi, chair of surgery at Imperial College London, has conducted preliminary experiments with the technique in which robotically controlled instruments are lowered into the patient’s stomach.
A hole is made in the lining of the stomach, then the organ - usually an appendix or gall bladder - is cut out and pulled up through the throat before the hole is stitched, leaving the patient with no external scars and a reduced risk of infection because the wounds are not exposed to the air.
The technique, called natural orifice translumenal endoscopic surgery, has been successfully used on patients in America, France and India. Darzi, who became a health minister last year, is one of the first surgeons in Britain to use the technique in experiments on pigs, before the first human tests.
While admitting it was still “early days”, Darzi believes the probe could eventually be used to remove cancers.
The main after-effects include a sore throat and an unpleasant taste in the mouth from having a diseased organ pulled through it.
Other orifices could be used but Darzi said he believed the mouth was the most promising. He said some aspects of the procedure needed perfecting.
“If we are going to enter through the stomach we need to develop the appropriate tools to make sure we can close the hole properly,” he said.
Darzi’s team are developing a new surgical robot called the iSnake, which they hope will assist in the new procedure and in keyhole surgery.
Other research projects on the new procedure are under way at hospitals around Britain. The first operations on patients in Britain are expected in three to four years.




http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/health/article3735983.ece

blackops121
15-04-2008, 02:12 PM
Omg! That Is Mingin' !!! Lol i dont wanna think about tht

lew!
15-04-2008, 02:23 PM
lmao, iSnake
What a name!
Everywheres using that now

Technologic
15-04-2008, 02:23 PM
o_O

URGH.

Well i suppose if you have a taste for liver or kidney it isn't that bad..

Firehorse
15-04-2008, 02:24 PM
I think i'd rather have a scar than have a faulty organ removed via my mouth. I had my appendix removed when I was 6 and the scar never hurt, wasn't even sore after the operation.

Inseriousity.
15-04-2008, 02:25 PM
Stutoman, I agree. I'd rather have the scars too.. That just sounds horrifying!

'Oh well, it's basic procedure. What we'll do is push your liver up and out of your mouth' :P I'd be like 'SAY WHAT' :P

Cavaz
15-04-2008, 03:34 PM
i wouldn't mind it coming out of my mouth, I'd drink mouthwash.

Id rather get it out of my mouth than get infections from cutting open my stomache. And if its dragged along the throat won't it leave the diseased bacteria there?

Firehorse
15-04-2008, 03:59 PM
another reason I wouldn't like it done like that is because if the doctor takes to long you risk suffocation. if they're operating through the mouth then where's the oxygen mask gonna go. what if you breath in blood?

Cavaz, you don't get infections from operations unless the instruments aren't clean and unless you're in a really poor country they will be.

Swearwolf
15-04-2008, 04:05 PM
I already have scars they're no big deal

Blue
15-04-2008, 04:21 PM
Well, image concious people will be happy. :P I've got images of cartoons in my head pulling out the organs through each others throat.

GommeInc
15-04-2008, 05:51 PM
Ok... Feel really ill :S I would much prefer the scars... I can't explain how yucky the mental images are :(

Lol Blue, I've got the mental image of Itchy turning Scratchy inside out :P

Decode
15-04-2008, 06:21 PM
If its removed, wouldnt you have to put a new one in?

Blue
15-04-2008, 06:24 PM
Not if it's like an appendix, that can be removed. But a heart going out the windpipe, oh dear ;)

And Gomme, I had the exact same image :D

Mr.Sam
15-04-2008, 06:28 PM
If you read the article it does mention which organs...

"A hole is made in the lining of the stomach, then the organ - usually an appendix or gall bladder"


Not if it's like an appendix, that can be removed. But a heart going out the windpipe, oh dear ;)

And Gomme, I had the exact same image :D

Blue
15-04-2008, 06:32 PM
I did read it, thats why I said appendix :)

Cavaz
15-04-2008, 06:50 PM
you can get infections in the richest of countrys. Bacteria can get into to the surgery rooms. They said its impossible to stop them. People die from infections later in life from surgerys. They can feed oxygen into your blood so your fine.

PaulMacC
16-04-2008, 07:10 PM
Sounds like something the egyptians would do, I'd be too scared to go through it.

GhostFace-
16-04-2008, 07:12 PM
omg, thats quite weird, if i needed a organ remove id just do it the old fashion way

GommeInc
16-04-2008, 07:39 PM
omg, thats quite weird, if i needed a organ remove id just do it the old fashion way

Be glad they don't do it the Norman way :P Shuve a rock in your mouth and operate with no drugs... I know that from a Norman Village Museum thingy near where I live... Very creepy...

Nereo
17-04-2008, 02:35 PM
If it means not having a scar I dont mind, its not like you will be awake or whatever while they are doing it

stratosphere2
17-04-2008, 06:12 PM
I'm sure they'd give you something to stop the taste.....



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