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[DarrenToogood]

Hello there,

For some time now I have been comtimplating re-starting an old project of mine. It was a success and it was sold, however no longer in use and I may be able to get the domain and the content back from the owner, who is now the owner of a very successful forum.

Due to the scale of the project, I will be looking for 5 administrators to start with, with the possible scope for a further 20 staff members. Now, some people will say 'the project failed' say a month down the line, if I do not go along with the project. This is just a possible project.

I am not going to give away too much detail at the moment. People who know me and who knew my project from July 2007 will know what I am discussing. I would like to hear from people who are looking to get involved in a project, and who have experience within a Mass Chat Community project, and who would be looking to join one of these departments:

- Public Relations
- Community
- Moderation
- Development
- Legal

If you are interested, please send me a PM or email me directly at: [email protected]. Any questions please PM or reply to this thread.

I look forward to the response,

Darren Toogood

Edited by lAscend (Forum Super Moderator): Thread closed due to being off topic.

[Excellent]

Hello, what is your plan? Do you have a proper business plan? Contacts? A budget?

Please sit back and re-think everything before you ask for people to join a project.

Also don't take this as a public bashing, I am just suggesting an idea that may help you with your project.

Thanks, Gork.

[DarrenToogood]

Gork, like I have said before, I have done this project before but sold it. The new owners never did anything with it, therefore going to buy back certain parts and restart.

I am putting together a full word document plan. Contacts are no problem, I know anyone who is anyone in this market. As for the budget, I will be looking to get onboard some more owners, to split the amount of money by 2 or 3. Last time I put in around £220 I believe.

[RedCrisps]

Gork, like I have said before, I have done this project before but sold it. The new owners never did anything with it, therefore going to buy back certain parts and restart.

I am putting together a full word document plan. Contacts are no problem, I know anyone who is anyone in this market. As for the budget, I will be looking to get onboard some more owners, to split the amount of money by 2 or 3. Last time I put in around £220 I believe.
Ew. You waste that much money online.

Edited by Kaotix12 (Forum Moderator): Please do not post pointlessly.

[dobbin]

Hi i can be a admin if you wont?

[RedCrisps]

I'm very interested in the Moderator role. I'm very self sufficient, and like chineese curry sauce and chips.

[Movieen]

Lol, I can do all video needs, and design.

I do require pay. :)
But it's a bargain.

[DarrenToogood]

Hello.

I will not be hiring any random people. I am looking to hire people with atleast 4 years experience in the market.

When you say 'video needs', do you mean videos such as Youtube. That is an interesting proposal and I will email you.

[Movieen]

Hello.

I will not be hiring any random people. I am looking to hire people with atleast 4 years experience in the market.

When you say 'video needs', do you mean videos such as Youtube. That is an interesting proposal and I will email you.

I mean, I can produce:


Flash animations
Screen recorded, professional videos etc.

[Protege]

Ew. You waste that much money online.
He put that much money into something to make more money, and if its a business put money into a business and in theory you should get it back or more. LooooooooooL

[Movieen]

Darren, blocked me because I had a "shoop da whoop" display picture.
Very immature child.

[RedCrisps]

He put that much money into something to make more money, and if its a business put money into a business and in theory you should get it back or more. LooooooooooL
Darren projects always fail, which is why he spends it for nothing.

[DarrenToogood]

I have had some interest within the Video side of things. This has sparked some ideas which could make this more unique. Thank you to all of those people interested, I have replied to PM's and added to MSN.

[Excellent]

Do you have a set budget for this project? Also how old are you if you don't mind me asking?

[Movieen]

I have had some interest within the Video side of things. This has sparked some ideas which could make this more unique. Thank you to all of those people interested, I have replied to PM's and added to MSN.

You blocked me, because of my DP. Lol.
*REMOVED*

Edited by Hitman (Forum Moderator): Please don't insult other forum members, thanks.

[DarrenToogood]

I do not have a set budget, and I am 15.

I am in talks with a Web Development site called Epic Developments, and they seem very interested.

[Movieen]

I do not have a set budget, and I am 15.

I am in talks with a Web Development site called Epic Developments, and they seem very interested.

I'm e-mailing Epic dev now.
Informing the owner, Eric about you.

[DarrenToogood]

Eric is not an owner. I have known the owners for 4 years now.

[Movieen]

Eric is not an owner. I have known the owners for 4 years now.

Yes, sure. :rolleyes:

[Excellent]

I do not have a set budget, and I am 15.

I am in talks with a Web Development site called Epic Developments, and they seem very interested.Wait so you are 15 and wanting someone with over 4 years experience when you have 0? I cannot see how this will work. How do you plan to fund this project..? Pocket money?

[today]

epIc Dev has Matt right?

[DarrenToogood]

I have been involved in the market for the past 4 years.

Like I have said before, I did this project before, it was a success and I sold it. I now wish to start it again, and there is a high possible chance of me getting some of the content back.

Indeed Epic is James and Matt.

[Movieen]

I have been involved in the market for the past 4 years.

Like I have said before, I did this project before, it was a success and I sold it. I now wish to start it again, and there is a high possible chance of me getting some of the content back.

Indeed Epic is James and Matt.

Since you were 10? :rolleyes:

[Excellent]

Since you were 10? :rolleyes:Yeah! Selling pokemon cards!

[DarrenToogood]

Money is not an issue, do not worry.

A development has come up, and I may be the new Community Director of a developing MMOCC, therefore this project may not happen now.

[Movieen]

Money is not an issue, do not worry.

A development has come up, and I may be the new Community Director of a developing MMOCC, therefore this project may not happen now.

Oh, please, what MMOCC is that? :rolleyes:

[DarrenToogood]

At this moment in time I can not say. I am still in talks, this MMOCC is making a huge comeback, which is currently under wrapes.

[Movieen]

At this moment in time I can not say. I am still in talks, this MMOCC is making a huge comeback, which is currently under wrapes.


EITHER YOU'RE DOING THIS OR YOUR CRAP COMMUNITY JOB.
SO STOP POSTING.

[RedCrisps]

At this moment in time I can not say. I am still in talks, this MMOCC is making a huge comeback, which is currently under wrapes.
Darren, you fail. Can you please accept that, and stop making projects, buying domains. When you only get like 1 customer.

[Protege]

He really digs himself into a deep deep hole lool

If you've already done it, why do it again? Think of something different cause doing the same thing again must be seriously boring.

"For some time now I have been comtimplating re-starting an old project of mine. It was a success and it was sold, however no longer in use and I may be able to get the domain and the content back from the owner, who is now the owner of a very successful forum."

If it was that successful, why did the owner leave it? A successful site stays active for ages for example; habbox.com, they've been open since 03/04 I believe. They dont die that easily and if it was such a successful site, what was it called I probably would of known or someone else would of.

[today]

This MMOCC is it JabbaTown?

[Excellent]

Wait so now your going to get involved with another project? This thread contradicts itself.

[DarrenToogood]

It does not.

At the start I stated that it doesn't mean I am 100% doing this project, it means its an idea in development. A new venture has come up, so I may leave this idea.

[Excellent]

It does not.

At the start I stated that it doesn't mean I am 100% doing this project, it means its an idea in development. A new venture has come up, so I may leave this idea.
From the looks of things you start many projects and then they all close are about 2 weeks?

[RedCrisps]

From the looks of things you start many projects and then they all close are about 2 weeks?
It's a new ******* project every week for darren. He buys the domain. and when people "pick" on him on here he goes and cries and says he doesn't want to carry on with it

[Lilian]

What happened to Support Suite?

[RedCrisps]

What happened to Support Suite?
Yes, what happend?

[DarrenToogood]

The coder I had left the project, after alot of trouble between us. He got rather annoyed when I asked a different coder to do my Photography Portfolio, and I also did not want him no more.

www.darrentoogood.com

[Blob]

The coder I had left the project, after alot of trouble between us. He got rather annoyed when I asked a different coder to do my Photography Portfolio, and I also did not want him no more.

www.darrentoogood.com

Wow, De ja vu heh?

[Movieen]

The coder I had left the project, after alot of trouble between us. He got rather annoyed when I asked a different coder to do my Photography Portfolio, and I also did not want him no more.

www.darrentoogood.com (http://www.darrentoogood.com)

Actually, Jake has a diffetrent story.
and that layout is bloody disgusting.

[RedCrisps]

Actually, Jake has a diffetrent story.
and that layout is bloody disgusting.
Layout? Where? All i see is a white box.

[Hypertext]

Darren, every single one of your projects has failed, I don't see any of them go anywhere, for instance, what happened to "Suerte Heights", and "Host Suite". You don't just go becoming a community manager for an mmocc set up a hosting company, make an mmocc, start a forum, and what about suminanal.com or whatever it was. You have tooooo many ideas that everytime this is the order of events:

You have a dumb idea
You make a thread about it
You get flamed because its a dumb idea
You go buy a domain
Hire some people who don't know you - for free
You annoy the hell out of them
They quit
Everyone says they warned the people
Your domain runs out
You have another failed project on your... list.

Just cease all other projects and work on one, I personally think if you try hard, and do not have a million ideas, maybe just one of your ideas will work.

[Decode]

What happened to your Mainly**** project?

[:Edzy]

Hello there,

For some time now I have been comtimplating re-starting an old project of mine. It was a success and it was sold, however no longer in use and I may be able to get the domain and the content back from the owner, who is now the owner of a very successful forum.

Due to the scale of the project, I will be looking for 5 administrators to start with, with the possible scope for a further 20 staff members. Now, some people will say 'the project failed' say a month down the line, if I do not go along with the project. This is just a possible project.

I am not going to give away too much detail at the moment. People who know me and who knew my project from July 2007 will know what I am discussing. I would like to hear from people who are looking to get involved in a project, and who have experience within a Mass Chat Community project, and who would be looking to join one of these departments:

- Public Relations
- Community
- Moderation
- Development
- Legal

If you are interested, please send me a PM or email me directly at: [email protected]. Any questions please PM or reply to this thread.

I look forward to the response,

Darren Toogood

good luck <3

[DarrenToogood]

- SuerteHeights was sold...
- HostSuite did not start because a coder left due to a small arguement
- Mainlyanal was NOT a project, it was an idea. This is where people get confused, because they feel that when I make a thread, I am 100% doing that project. It was simply an idea I was looking into, such as this.

WOW, a rare spelling mistake by myself. Thanks for pointing this out. I must have been rushing to get back to Poker.

[Hypertext]

- SuerteHeights was sold...
- HostSuite did not start because a coder left due to a small arguement
- Mainlyanal was NOT a project, it was an idea. This is where people get confused, because they feel that when I make a thread, I am 100% doing that project. It was simply an idea I was looking into, such as this.

WOW, a rare spelling mistake by myself. Thanks for pointing this out. I must have been rushing to get back to Poker.

Title: " Mainlyanal.com - New Project".



Hello there,

You may be saying 'O no, not another project...and this time its porn!'. You have got some of it right, it is another one of my projects, however it is not porn.

During R.E class on Tuesday, the teachers, my classmates and myself were talking about Porn shops in Amsterdam, when I mentioned a porn website. I said 'it is mainly a*nal' and everyone laughed, and started saying 'Mainly A*nal'. I go home, and that night I have been thinking about the domain, thinking of ideas I could use it for, and heres the plan...

Mainlyanal.com would be a discussion and rant website, where users can openly post their rants and dicussion about everyday life. Users would sign up for an account, and earn points for the more posts and threads they make. The more a thread/post is answered to, they get more points for that as well. Further ideas would be to spend points on more functions, images, or even products.

Before I even buy the domain, or go any further with the project, I just wanted to know what you guys think about it. Help would be needed in terms of Coding Development and Marketing.

Darren"

Point proven?
O rly?

[RedCrisps]

DARREN BENNIDORM TOOGOOD YOUR DOING THIS PROJECT AND IT'S AS SIMPLE AS THAT.

[Protege]

Why would you get a domain called MainlyAnal.com, you'd get distinct perverts from Habbo.ca lool

[Dentafrice]

I have been involved in the market for the past 4 years.

Like I have said before, I did this project before, it was a success and I sold it. I now wish to start it again, and there is a high possible chance of me getting some of the content back.

Indeed Epic is James and Matt.


Money is not an issue, do not worry.

A development has come up, and I may be the new Community Director of a developing MMOCC, therefore this project may not happen now.

I don't see how anyone under the age of at least 18 could even create a successful MMOCC, at all.

To do that, you would need to know how to do it yourself, or have the money to hire someone to do that things you don't know how to do.

I don't see why any "professional" company would hire a 15 year old as a "Community Director", now do you see any big companies with 15 year old community directors, or any directors for that matter unless it is family-owned/user-created.

No, because those companies wish to have experienced, mature staff Darren, unlike you.

Your going to have to think about this, your not going to have a world-renowned site at the age of 15, unless you have some serious skills, which quite frankly, I don't think you have.

I really have seen nothing from you that "blows the lid off of the trash can", its all generic, and not really that great.

The projects you start, always fail, even though you say they are just "ideas", :rolleyes:.

A project is meant to be worked on, and usually finished, not just saying, "you thought I was going to do it 100%?"

That is like working in a factory, having an assigned task of making 300 pieces of furniture a day, and only making 10, then saying "You thought I was going to do it 100%?".

Thats pretty much all I have to say right now, i'll probably think of something else later.


Darren, every single one of your projects has failed, I don't see any of them go anywhere, for instance, what happened to "Suerte Heights", and "Host Suite". You don't just go becoming a community manager for an mmocc set up a hosting company, make an mmocc, start a forum, and what about suminanal.com or whatever it was. You have tooooo many ideas that everytime this is the order of events:

You have a dumb idea
You make a thread about it
You get flamed because its a dumb idea
You go buy a domain
Hire some people who don't know you - for free
You annoy the hell out of them
They quit
Everyone says they warned the people
Your domain runs out
You have another failed project on your... list.

Just cease all other projects and work on one, I personally think if you try hard, and do not have a million ideas, maybe just one of your ideas will work.

And you are one to speak?

You run like 30 projects at a time, almost as bad as him, plus you have a million ideas, and none of your ideas have worked either?

I seriously don't see how you can talk, up until recently you had a Habbo avatar with a "how do I make this transparent" background.

Seriously dude.. :S

[Protege]

Theres nothing wrong with having lots of ideas, and with them ideas produce one - You don't need "skills" to produce your ideas as you could always hire someone to produce them.

[Hypertext]

I didn't change that avatar for over a year and a half.

I have two projects running. You have more than me. Name my millions of ideas. Which ideas of mine have failed, except for a habbo fansite, which failed because I quit habbo.

Caleb, stop trying to take stuff out on me. That entire paragraph was completely wrong. I just disproved every single one of your accusations.

CodeeBackend - Done.
Codeetech - got quite a few clients and thats done veeery well.
Flyxa - barely started.

Irmc.

[Dentafrice]

I don't see anything you have disproved?
Yeah, it represented how you acted, and still acted.

Other then the fact your using my database core:

http://www.codeetech.com/maintenance/index.php

Fatal error: Call to a member function query() on a non-object in /home/fhlinux160/p/prowebdesigns.co.uk/user/htdocs/backend/getnews.php on line 3

http://www.codeetech.com/backend/classes/database.php
http://www.codeetech.com/backend/classes/core.php
http://www.codeetech.com/backend/classes/login.php


It just seems really really weird that everything I do, you come behind with a very very similar, action.

http://en.klydo.com - http://www.klydo.com/en/
http://en.flyxa.com - http://www.flyxa.com/en/

the /go/ thing, the whole "testing the divs thing", then the whole "testing your wraps thing", it is really getting old, get some original ideas.

I just can't wait for Flyxa to be released, to see how many ideas have been stolen from Klydo.

I wouldn't be surprised if you had a JS color changer that changed the header as you drug it..

[Hypertext]

I don't see anything you have disproved?
Yeah, it represented how you acted, and still acted.

Other then the fact your using my database core:

http://www.codeetech.com/maintenance/index.php

Fatal error: Call to a member function query() on a non-object in /home/fhlinux160/p/prowebdesigns.co.uk/user/htdocs/backend/getnews.php on line 3

http://www.codeetech.com/backend/classes/database.php
http://www.codeetech.com/backend/classes/core.php
http://www.codeetech.com/backend/classes/login.php


It just seems really really weird that everything I do, you come behind with a very very similar, action.

http://en.klydo.com - http://www.klydo.com/en/
http://en.flyxa.com - http://www.flyxa.com/en/

the /go/ thing, the whole "testing the divs thing", then the whole "testing your wraps thing", it is really getting old, get some original ideas.

I just can't wait for Flyxa to be released, to see how many ideas have been stolen from Klydo.

I wouldn't be surprised if you had a JS color changer that changed the header as you drug it..
Lol, drug it, yes heroine.

http://www.flyxa.com/en/

that came automatically with adding a subdomain for me.
I didn't know you were the only one allowed to name files like this.

None of it is your stuff. The database was adapted from the version you GAVE me. The rest is my own.

Stop with the accusations. :rolleyes:

Edit: Lets stop stealing his thread.

[Dentafrice]

Actually I just showed it to you, to show you what OOP consisted of, as you knew nothing.

Oh yes, of course.. everytime you add a sub-domain, the first option is en.. :rolleyes:

Thats a lie.. it just seems quite weird that you follow behind me in everything. Everything.



Lol, drug it, yes heroine.Hilarous.


Quit trying to act all big, you think you are so great now that you know a couple of ways to do things, I don't see why you even entered this section anyway, but you still beg people for help.. all.. the.. time..

"how did u do thumbnails"
"Caleb other than javascript & html what other languages can be deployed in PHP?"
"you there?"
"with css do i need to use fopen or can i just use file_get_contents? "
"can i see klydo"
" is it worth me using a class for pms "
" caleb how do i make a class extend twice? "
"where do i define the global in the page including the user and config or in user?"
"what do you use for shortcode"
"Do you have a badword filter"
"How much do you sell ZedtuGEAR for?"
"So do you have your own platform for these 'modules'"
"Can I see the documentation"
"you there?"
"is it possible to decrypt md5(md5())"

"what licensing do you u se?" - "pastebin it pleaaaseeee :P"
"ah can i see it pls"
"is my logic correct though?"
"how do you do it.."
"whats the login in your user groupsd"
"hi can i see a dmeo"
"Caleb I need your logistic skills:)"
"do i need to escape variables encased in ' "
" I didn't know it waspossible in php.... "
"is thereone to start at the beginning and not delete any"
"whats the letter or minus or plus for appending but starting from the start"
"caleb whats the fwrite letter with a + or - or w.e for append eg writing at the bottom of an already used article"
"Can you msn advertise need a layout coder for me :P"
"if its correct it still says its wrong"
"can i see your database part fo your installer heres mine but it doesn't work "
"How should I hold values in an installer, hidden inputs, sessions, cookies or..."

lmao - I know it's bad practice to use tables for users, this is to delete a user, is it correct syntax? <?php $user = $_GET['user']; $sql_a = mysql_query("DROP" .$user. "table IF EXISTS"); $sql_b = mysql_query("DELETE * FROM users WHERE user='$user'"); if($sql_a) { if($sql_b { echo "" .$user. "successfully deleted!"; } } ?>

"how do i set error messages, to only warning+ also?"
"How do you do the redirect to"
"How do you do deleting/adding pages, do you have to like use fopen and all that?"
"do you know how you can get tables to automatically new line text w/o spaces?"
"like to use another unction within a query() function?"
"do you need to extend"
"you don't have to extend to other functions do you?"
"how do you use error then?"
"do you use $db->query("SELECT * FROM bla") or die($db->error()); ???"
"what cleaning do you use for verifying usernames?"


I cba to go through the rest, there is like way more then that.

Over, and over, he asks.

[Protege]

I cant see the point in this arguement nor with any others loool battle of the fittest sort of thing.

[Dentafrice]

I cant see the point in this arguement nor with any others loool battle of the fittest sort of thing.
I can, he copies too much. He is like Jack120.


Cba with this argument, i'll win anyway.

g'night

[Klydo]

Darren...

Okay my views on this are that you act older but still have a very naive mind of about an 11 year old. You can't post a thread about a community asking for staff when you haven't stated what it is. If we all thought back to July 2007 you probably had about 4 or 5 projects at the time so it doesn't help. Your latest project HostSuite collasped quickly after I exposed you for lieing about sponsorship as you were claiming to be sponsored by a Zedtu sponsor.

Charlie...

We are not claiming ownership to subdomains or directories, it's the fact whatever we do - you do. First with Zedtu, we started using /go/pagename for the pages and funnily enough you started too. Secondly you made a piece of software which was situated within an area called backend, which you quickly followed - even naming your software BACKEND. Thirdly you copied Zedtu's entire code and even went to the bother of changing where ever Zedtu was written and the logo so you weren't just testing divs we all know it. Fourthly when we started kLYdo you suddenly decided to open a social network fLYxa. The fact those two letters may not seem like much but there is no reason for you to have LY in that name as it ruins it by making the human brain seperate it into two sounds. So to me it seems you've started with klydo and simply started editing letters around it. Fifthly - the latest one - you've even copied our subdomain setup which you've never used before. Sure we don't own copyright nor the original idea of it but you wouldn't of done it if we hadn't.

It's just getting annoying Charlie, no one here will agree with me or Caleb as basically I'm hated by most people here. However if I posted these facts on places such as TalkFreelance and Sitepoint you'd soon see the real picture. So stop having a go at Darren when you're not blame free either.

[Agnostic Bear]

I don't see anything you have disproved?
Yeah, it represented how you acted, and still acted.

Other then the fact your using my database core:

http://www.codeetech.com/maintenance/index.php

Fatal error: Call to a member function query() on a non-object in /home/fhlinux160/p/prowebdesigns.co.uk/user/htdocs/backend/getnews.php on line 3

http://www.codeetech.com/backend/classes/database.php
http://www.codeetech.com/backend/classes/core.php
http://www.codeetech.com/backend/classes/login.php
He can use my database core if he wants, it's a wee bit more functional than yours.


It just seems really really weird that everything I do, you come behind with a very very similar, action.

http://en.klydo.com - http://www.klydo.com/en/
http://en.flyxa.com - http://www.flyxa.com/en/


http://en.wikipedia.org
http://uk.php.net
http://php.net/manual/en

It just seems really really weird that everything php and wikipedia does, you come behind with a very very similar, action. (-10 for bad grammar)



the /go/ thing, the whole "testing the divs thing", then the whole "testing your wraps thing", it is really getting old, get some original ideas.


I'll give you that, that was stupid.



I just can't wait for Flyxa to be released, to see how many ideas have been stolen from Klydo.

I wouldn't be surprised if you had a JS color changer that changed the header as you drug it..

PHP can do that just fine.

On an ending note:
Go away, learn to code. Thanks for taking my template engine idea of <include></include>, <phrase></phrase>, didn't think I'd remember that now did you?


basically I'm hated by most people here.
I don't hate you I just love arguing.

[Dentafrice]

He can use my database core if he wants, it's a wee bit more functional than yours.


http://en.wikipedia.org
http://uk.php.net
http://php.net/manual/en

It just seems really really weird that everything php and wikipedia does, you come behind with a very very similar, action. (-10 for bad grammar)



I'll give you that, that was stupid.



PHP can do that just fine.

On an ending note:
Go away, learn to code. Thanks for taking my template engine idea of <include></include>, <phrase></phrase>, didn't think I'd remember that now did you?


I don't hate you I just love arguing.

PHP can do what? I didn't say it couldn't do anything.

Actually I didn't take your template engine, and cba with it, it was only for HK, which I couldn't give a **** about anymore.

And when you say take, why don't you rephrase that to, me giving it to you.

I'm no good with regex, and I admit that. Every coder has a few things he isn't very good at.

Your not the best, although you think you are, so you have no right to tell me to go learn to code, when everyone should.

Everyone good coder learns something everyday, so we are all learning

[DarrenToogood]

HostSuite failed due to me falling out with a coder, because I did not like his coding standards.


I have been in talks with an MMOCC, and I am waiting until the end of the weekend to hear back, due to the Joint Owner being on holiday. I think people need to understand when I make a thread, it does not mean I am doing the project. It means its an idea, and I want to get feedback.

I have had some interest on this project, however it was just to let you know what MIGHT be happening. Due to this development, it may or may not happen now. HostSuite was going to go ahead, until the coder I aquired was not up to standards. The project could still happen.

Other projects such as iHubz, YourTropica and SplurStudios were rushed. I still have the domains, however up for sale.

[blanky12!]

HostSuite failed due to me falling out with a coder, because I did not like his coding standards.

Stop arguing in my threads.
Darren, it seems like you fall out with EVERYONE, maybe if you offer $$$ then they'll do it.

[Dentafrice]

Go away, learn to code. Thanks for taking my template engine idea of <include></include>, <phrase></phrase>, didn't think I'd remember that now did you?I don't see again, how you can say "go away, learn to code", when you are no better then I am.

Your template engine sucks, thats about it.. the <php> and <include> functions, are awful.

It is stupid to modify your entire code to return and not echo, and any of the other **** it doesn't allow you to do. I had to modify it tremendously to even get it to do one thing I wanted.

The method I used is far better then yours.

Big whoop, you knew something I didn't, I learn by going along, and learning what needs to be done at the moment.

I probably learn twenty new things each day I code, and new methods on how to do older things.

Any good coder should be learning, and not be stuck with a stick up their *** telling people to go code.

That is no exception for me, I have been an *** to Reconix lately, sorry.

So Dan, why don't you *REMOVED*, and in your words, "go learn to code", because you knew a couple of things I didn't, which makes you "so great."

I probably know quite a few things you don't know, "OMG, i'm better".

:rolleyes:

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[DarrenToogood]

Denta, take your arguement else where please.

Blanky, it was not a problem of him doing it, its just...he was too rubbish. The other person I had lined up is very busy with a new project. It may still happen, it may not. I haven't bought the domain yet...so.

[Agnostic Bear]

I don't see again, how you can say "go away, learn to code", when you are no better then I am.

Your template engine sucks, thats about it.. the <php> and <include> functions, are awful.

It is stupid to modify your entire code to return and not echo, and any of the other **** it doesn't allow you to do. I had to modify it tremendously to even get it to do one thing I wanted.

The method I used is far better then yours.

Big whoop, you knew something I didn't, I learn by going along, and learning what needs to be done at the moment.

I probably learn twenty new things each day I code, and new methods on how to do older things.

Any good coder should be learning, and not be stuck with a stick up their *** telling people to go code.

That is no exception for me, I have been an *** to Reconix lately, sorry.

So Dan, why don't you *REMOVED*, and in your words, "go learn to code", because you knew a couple of things I didn't, which makes you "so great."

I probably know quite a few things you don't know, "OMG, i'm better".

:rolleyes:

No I'm pretty much certain I know everything you do + more. I coded it to return straight from the start.

[blanky12!]

No I'm pretty much certain I know everything you do + more. I coded it to return straight from the start.
why don't you guys have a code war then!?!??

see who can make a better panel or something...

i think you should, would make habbox better

[Excellent]

I agree with alot of the points that Dentafrice and Klydo make in this thread as most seem valid. But this thread has just turned into an arguement, I'm sure we should get back on track with helping/suggesting ideas to Darren surely?

Anyway darren, you are 15 so you said and you are asking someone for 4 years marketting experience when it seems you don't have alot. When you make these sorts of sites if a sponsor asks you how old you are, your going to say 15? I'm pretty sure he will laugh at you.

In conclusion I think you should take a good few weeks to think this over and stick to one "project" as running copious ammounts of projects will get you nowhere but square 1.

Thanks, Gork.

[Agnostic Bear]

why don't you guys have a code war then!?!??

see who can make a better panel or something...

i think you should, would make habbox better

Already done that, already won.

[blanky12!]

Already done that, already won.
Well, start again to see who is the best.

I want to do this, you should I think.

[Agnostic Bear]

Well, start again to see who is the best.

I want to do this, you should I think.
Already coding something.

[blanky12!]

No, let the community tell you what to code..

it'll be fun.

[Excellent]

Well, start again to see who is the best.

I want to do this, you should I think.This would be like year 1 all over again, "I'm better than you hahaha!"

From what I have seen Lolcopters and Dentafrice are two great coders, this forum doesn't need people to compete, defeats the object of "community".

Thanks, Gork.

[DarrenToogood]

Gork,

The MMOCC market is a very competitive market, and there are lots of people within the market with 4+ years experience. I personally have been involved in MMOCCs for 4 years now, and I have picked up alot.

Anyhow, like I have said - this project may not happen now.

[blanky12!]

This would be like year 1 all over again, "I'm better than you hahaha!"

From what I have seen Lolcopters and Dentafrice are two great coders, this forum doesn't need people to compete, defeats the object of "community".

Thanks, Gork.
Yeah, but it'll be quite fun, like, they can release there products to the public.

They could make something really unquie..?

[Excellent]

Gork,

The MMOCC market is a very competitive market, and there are lots of people within the market with 4+ years experience. I personally have been involved in MMOCCs for 4 years now, and I have picked up alot.

Anyhow, like I have said - this project may not happen now.So your telling me you were staff on an MMOCC when you were 10-11, I highly doubt this darren. Maybe you were a user on habbo but thats not being staff or learning to market your ideas. I'm sorry but I think you try to act older than you are and think you can achieve huge things with just yourself. Takes 2 to tango.

Thanks, Gork.

[DarrenToogood]

At any point did I say I worked for MMOCCs in those 4 years...no. 2006 really I started working for MMOCCs, and developed my own in July 2007.

[blanky12!]

At any point did I say I worked for MMOCCs in those 4 years...no. 2006 really I started working for MMOCCs, and developed my own in July 2007.
Thats a lie!, if you worked in a MMOCCs for four years, you'd have built your coding up to standerds, and you wouldn't have even bothered hireing someone?

[DarrenToogood]

I am not a coder. I have been working in the MMOCC market, but that does not mean I am a coder.

I work within the administration and management of MMOCCs.

[Excellent]

I am not a coder. I have been working in the MMOCC market, but that does not mean I am a coder.

I work within the administration and management of MMOCCs.Darren I give up with you, maybe your trying too hard to be like Alan Sugar.. The ideas are there, granted but the way you plan them just tells me your a kid with an attitude.

Thanks, Gork.

[blanky12!]

Darren I give up with you, maybe your trying too hard to be like Alan Sugar.. The ideas are there, granted but the way you plan them just tells me your a kid with an attitude.

Thanks, Gork.
agreed, nothing will work darren, give in.

[DarrenToogood]

You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Where are you getting these silly little ideas from?

How dare you say I am a 'kid with an attitude'. I agree, that ahve a very strict and straight forward way of how I do things, like it or lump it. People in the past have left my projects if I am too strict or pushy, however that is my working attitude, and that is how things get done. Lazyness is not accepted.

One thing that is working ok at the moment is my Photography Portfolio. www.darrentoogood.com

[Agnostic Bear]

You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Where are you getting these silly little ideas from?

How dare you say I am a 'kid with an attitude'. I agree, that ahve a very strict and straight forward way of how I do things, like it or lump it. People in the past have left my projects if I am too strict or pushy, however that is my working attitude, and that is how things get done. Lazyness is not accepted.

One thing that is working ok at the moment is my Photography Portfolio. www.darrentoogood.com (http://www.darrentoogood.com)

Which just so happens to be very poorly designed.

[blanky12!]

You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Where are you getting these silly little ideas from?

How dare you say I am a 'kid with an attitude'. I agree, that ahve a very strict and straight forward way of how I do things, like it or lump it. People in the past have left my projects if I am too strict or pushy, however that is my working attitude, and that is how things get done. Lazyness is not accepted.

One thing that is working ok at the moment is my Photography Portfolio. www.darrentoogood.com
Yeah.. all that site is, just a orange background, white box... the layout is horrable..

[DarrenToogood]

The design of the website is not the element people are meant to be focusing on. It is a Photography Portfolio, not a Design Portfolio.

The purpose of the website is to show off my photography skills, not my design.

[Excellent]

You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Where are you getting these silly little ideas from?

How dare you say I am a 'kid with an attitude'. I agree, that ahve a very strict and straight forward way of how I do things, like it or lump it. People in the past have left my projects if I am too strict or pushy, however that is my working attitude, and that is how things get done. Lazyness is not accepted.

One thing that is working ok at the moment is my Photography Portfolio. www.darrentoogood.com (http://www.darrentoogood.com)Well clearlly I do as I'm much older than yourself. Thats what your acting like Mr.Toogood, grow up and get some training. Just because you may be the best in your school at designing or ideas, doesn't mean your better than anyone outside of that school..

As for your website? Dreamweaver - 5 minute job.

Thanks, Gork.

[DarrenToogood]

Infact the website was not a 5 min job. I asked for what I need, and an admin panel was also made so I could manage my site with ease.

I am not going to argue on the amount of effort or the quality of code of the website, for two reasons;

- The photos are the interest, not the code (I like it how you have not commented on the photos btw)

- The coder is one of the best known coders within the MMOCC market, and is the owner of Epic Developments.

[blanky12!]

Infact the website was not a 5 min job. I asked for what I need, and an admin panel was also made so I could manage my site with ease.

I am not going to argue on the amount of effort or the quality of code of the website, for two reasons;

- The photos are the interest, not the code (I like it how you have not commented on the photos btw)

- The coder is one of the best known coders within the MMOCC market, and is the owner of Epic Developments.
http://www.darrentoogood.com/admin/

Found your panel. LOL.

also, you have cpanel..

http://www.darrentoogood.com:2082/

thats the most friendlyist control panel..

[Excellent]

Infact the website was not a 5 min job. I asked for what I need, and an admin panel was also made so I could manage my site with ease.

I am not going to argue on the amount of effort or the quality of code of the website, for two reasons;

- The photos are the interest, not the code (I like it how you have not commented on the photos btw)

- The coder is one of the best known coders within the MMOCC market, and is the owner of Epic Developments.I'll say it again. The website is a 5 minute job, the coding required to make 1 page is a two minute job so that tells me your a lazy so and so.

Whats he doing working for you? Business must be low.. very low..

Thanks, Gork.

[DarrenToogood]

Blanky, the admin panel is no secret. It is password protected for a reason.

Indeed I have cPanel, however my admin panel allows me to easily create albums, delete albums, upload photos and their desp and name.

Gork, he was doing it as a favour. He is a good freind of mine, and I have known him for a number of years.

[Excellent]

Hang on so if you had an admin panel your images would be protected right?
http://www.darrentoogood.com/images/photos/

[DarrenToogood]

They are all watermarked anyway... so you can't steal them.

[Excellent]

They are all watermarked anyway... so you can't steal them.
I wouldn't want to steal them anyway. I could go to an auction and buy one thats 100x better. What happened to the admin panel mr.toogood? Should be protecting your files?

[Hypertext]

Testing your divs, yeh I guess that looked kind of phony, but if you can't rise above it to believe me... wow.

Caleb, and klydo, both of you are missing the point, your claiming I'm copying things that you didn't make.

The only thing I admit to using the idea of was /go/ and that was because my original pages were ?p=myPageID so I used mod rewrite to change it, as it gave better seo.

I got flyxa from this readable domains thing lemme find it...
http://www.readabledomains.com/

there.

[Excellent]

Testing your divs, yeh I guess that looked kind of phony, but if you can't rise above it to believe me... wow.

Caleb, and klydo, both of you are missing the point, your claiming I'm copying things that you didn't make.

The only thing I admit to using the idea of was /go/ and that was because my original pages were ?p=myPageID so I used mod rewrite to change it, as it gave better seo.

I got flyxa from this readable domains thing lemme find it...
http://www.readabledomains.com/

there.Nobody cares Reconix, don't post here if it's not to do with darren.

Thanks, Gork.

[DarrenToogood]

My admin panel is for me to upload images and name them, and manage my albums.

I am happy that users are able to download the WATERMARKED version of my RESIZED photos, because it is no good to them anyway, and just helps me if I am not on my main computer and wish to show other people.

[Excellent]

My admin panel is for me to upload images and name them, and manage my albums.

I am happy that users are able to download the WATERMARKED version of my RESIZED photos, because it is no good to them anyway, and just helps me if I am not on my main computer and wish to show other people.Can we see a screenshot of this "Admin panel" you claim to have? :)

[DarrenToogood]

Sure. I do not know why you are so interested... but here you go...

http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/3548/adminscreenypl8.png

[Agnostic Bear]

Gonna jump in before anyone else does, the design is an admin panel for 1 person, it doesn't need to look good.

[DarrenToogood]

100% correct Lolcopters.

It does what I need it to do, so I'm happy :)

[Excellent]

Gonna jump in before anyone else does, the design is an admin panel for 1 person, it doesn't need to look good.
Indeed this is true. The only thing I would say is does your editor allow HTML/bb codes?

[DarrenToogood]

I do not need HTML/BB Codes...

The admin panel is not to edit the pages on the website, I do that via cPanel. It is just to add and edit albums, and upload photos with name and info.

[Excellent]

Gonna jump in before anyone else does, the design is an admin panel for 1 person, it doesn't need to look good.


I do not need HTML/BB Codes...

The admin panel is not to edit the pages on the website, I do that via cPanel. It is just to add and edit albums, and upload photos with name and info.That would be just as easy in cPanel :S I'm presuming your a lazy coder?

[DarrenToogood]

For a start it would not be easy in cPanel. My admin panel alllows me to upload a photo direct, and before uploading select a name and a desp. for it, and select the album I wish it to go in. All my photos display as a gallery, not as hyperlinks, therefore I would not be able to do it in cpanel without typing out the text and add the <img> tags, which would take a while.

Also I am not a lazy coder, as I did not code it :S? Also for £5 im not going to grumble.

[Excellent]

For a start it would not be easy in cPanel. My admin panel alllows me to upload a photo direct, and before uploading select a name and a desp. for it, and select the album I wish it to go in. All my photos display as a gallery, not as hyperlinks, therefore I would not be able to do it in cpanel without typing out the text and add the <img> tags, which would take a while.

Also I am not a lazy coder, as I did not code it :S? Also for £5 im not going to grumble.Whats the point in having an admin panel for a site that only gets traffic when you get ridiculed in a thread such as this one?

Also it is lazy because your site is basic, nothing that you would actually need a panel for. You can just as easy do it in php with something we call HTML darren.

Thanks, Gork.

[DarrenToogood]

I will be showing my freinds and family my website, and other photographers. I also needed a portfolio as I am entering Isle of Wight Photographer of the Year 2008.

My site is basic, however the admin panel was done for me to make it easier when I am uploading hundreds of images.

[Protege]

Looool@this.

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[DarrenToogood]

Drift, what is there to 'Lol' at?

[Protege]

The whole thing

[DarrenToogood]

The whole what?

[Excellent]

I will be showing my freinds and family my website, and other photographers. I also needed a portfolio as I am entering Isle of Wight Photographer of the Year 2008.

My site is basic, however the admin panel was done for me to make it easier when I am uploading hundreds of images.So maybe 5 hits a month? I should go build an admin panel for my site that nobody knows about shall I?

What do you win for that? A badge?!

[DarrenToogood]

Why are you so obsessed about the Admin Panel?

'I should go build an admin panel for my site that nobody knows about'

No one is meant to know about my Admin Panel. I am not telling everyone :S

[Movieen]

Why are you so obsessed about the Admin Panel?

'I should go build an admin panel for my site that nobody knows about'

No one is meant to know about my Admin Panel. I am not telling everyone :S


By posting here, yes you are.

Darren, PLEASE. leave this forum..

[Klydo]

The admin panel is perfectly acceptible as it's a hell of a lot easier to use a system which allows you to upload and add titles and decriptions to images rather than making it all in HTML every time you upload a new image to your host. So to be honest guys you're just picking at straws now, just back off.

[DarrenToogood]

Thank you Klydo.

Someone is talking sence.

[Jõnathan]

So to be honest guys you're just picking at straws now, just back off.
Isn't every Darren Toogood thread like this :S

[Excellent]

Well I suppose if thats how you like to work I am in no right to judge that. So what project ARE you working on? MMOCC or MassChat mr.toogood?

[DarrenToogood]

MassChat is not the name, it just stands for MMC, short for MMOCC.

On Saturday I am speaking to both owners of the MMOCC, and discussing the position that I have applied for, Community Director/Human Resources. Saturday I will know what is happening, and update you Saturday night or Monday morning, due to me being away Sunday. At this time I will also update you on this project.

I am still running my darrentoogood.com photography portfolio.

[Excellent]

MassChat is not the name, it just stands for MMC, short for MMOCC.

On Saturday I am speaking to both owners of the MMOCC, and discussing the position that I have applied for, Community Director/Human Resources. Saturday I will know what is happening, and update you Saturday night or Monday morning, due to me being away Sunday. At this time I will also update you on this project.

I am still running my darrentoogood.com photography portfolio.For one I doubt they will hire a 15 year old for such a high ranking position. But all the best to you mr.toogood.

Thanks, Gork.

[DarrenToogood]

The other members of the MMOCC are young as well. Under 18.

[RedCrisps]

The other members of the MMOCC are young as well. Under 18.
Well that just proves it's crap.

[Movieen]

MassChat is not the name, it just stands for MMC, short for MMOCC.

On Saturday I am speaking to both owners of the MMOCC, and discussing the position that I have applied for, Community Director/Human Resources. Saturday I will know what is happening, and update you Saturday night or Monday morning, due to me being away Sunday. At this time I will also update you on this project.

I am still running my darrentoogood.com photography portfolio.

Do you think anyone here cares?

[DarrenToogood]

Red, it does not at all.

People have very little faith in young people.

[Excellent]

Red, it does not at all.

People have very little faith in young people.No I don't, I just have very little faith in you.

[Dentafrice]

No I'm pretty much certain I know everything you do + more. I coded it to return straight from the start.

Which is stupid, I don't see why you would return everything, then output it.. more work.


Yeah, but it'll be quite fun, like, they can release there products to the public.

They could make something really unquie..?

Why should we? It isn't a competition, I shouldn't take time out of my schedule to prove to you, or anyone, who is better in a silly contest?

He thinks he is better then me, I think I am better then him, lets just leave it at that.

There is no use for a pointless competition, because it is all going to become an opinion anyway.

I feel Dan is a good coder, and I also feel I am a good coder, we both have strengths and weaknesses at coding.


http://www.darrentoogood.com/admin/

Found your panel. LOL.

also, you have cpanel..

http://www.darrentoogood.com:2082/

thats the most friendlyist control panel..

Big whoop, you can type in /admin/ and add the cPanel port.

[Agnostic Bear]

Which is stupid, I don't see why you would return everything, then output it.. more work.

How is it more work?

[Blob]

People have very little faith in young people.

Not really, I'm 12 and people like look up at me for PHP (not as much as peeps like dan but still)

[RedCrisps]

http://cache.gizmodo.com/assets/resources/2006/12/condom_wedding_gown.jpg
Hey.

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[Excellent]

http://cache.gizmodo.com/assets/resources/2006/12/condom_wedding_gown.jpg
Hey.
http://blog.orly.ch/files/lolz-you-fail.jpg

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[Protege]

This is so fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuny looooooool 13 pages of **

[RedCrisps]

http://blog.orly.ch/files/lolz-you-fail.jpg

http://esum.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/serious.jpg

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[Excellent]

http://esum.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/serious.jpg
http://codeinsurrection.com/pics/noooo.jpg

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[RedCrisps]

http://codeinsurrection.com/pics/noooo.jpg
http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/lolcats-funny-pictures-questionmark.jpg

[Hypertext]

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http://www.forward-moving.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/10/38197-spam.jpg

[RedCrisps]

http://www.forward-moving.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/10/38197-spam.jpg
http://www.orlyowl.com/orly.jpg

[Hypertext]

http://www.orlyowl.com/orly.jpg
http://xcj9352.k12.sd.us/ya%20rly.jpg

[RedCrisps]

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[Protege]

Must be fun searching 4 them bra.

[RedCrisps]

Must be fun searching 4 them bra.
Nah, just typed in Zac Efron Topless on google, and turned safe search off :]

[Hypertext]

I'm not gay, sorry.

[Dentafrice]

I'm not gay, sorry.
but your boyfriend is. haha

[Hypertext]

Typo: boy friend*. ;)

We're gonna get infracted the hell out of for this, on topic.

GOOD LUCK DARREN!

</sarcasm>

[Dentafrice]

Typo: boy friend*. ;)

We're gonna get infracted the hell out of for this, on topic.

GOOD LUCK DARREN!

</sarcasm>

Actually there isn't a space.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boyfriend

[Baving]

No I'm pretty much certain I know everything you do + more. I coded it to return straight from the start.

The SQL structure for your Kristall-Panel is atrocious.

You define someone an "id" in the users table yet you store the username in every other table. That is a really bad example of repetitive data. The aim of a database is to have as little repetitive data as possible.

"Timetable" table, you store text for a username. Text in MySQL can have a maximum field length of 65535 characters. I have never seen a username this long! varchar(30) will be adequate enough.

"online" table, I see no need for at all. You can just store the same fields in the users table. Therefore losing a table and saving repetitive data.

By storing the username in every table it will be causing MySQL to take longer to execute:
1) Searching a numerical value is faster
2) Usernames may contain both alpha and numerical characters, this means MySQL has to work doubly hard to process both ascii types.
3) Usernames are much harder to track across multiple tables and may easily be duplicated.

[Hypertext]

Looking at Kristall-Panel, it does seem quite redundant. Use ID's in usernames, and why use an online table just have a field last_active and do $check = time() - $sql['last_active'];
if($check < 1800) {
// user is online
}
else {
// user is offline
}

1500 being 30 minutes

[Dentafrice]

Looking at Kristall-Panel, it does seem quite redundant. Use ID's in usernames, and why use an online table just have a field last_active and do $check = time() - $sql['last_active'];
if($check < 1800) {
// user is online
}
else {
// user is offline
}

1500 being 30 minutes
I taught you that :| I don't see how you could determine if it is "redundant" or not.

You don't have to repeat anything that a superior being like Baving says, who is far more professional then anyone on this forum. I think he knows a tad bit more then you, me, and anyone else ;)

[Hypertext]

Wow I can smell your testosterone from my house!

No need to get so defensive, I simply offered him a solution.

P.s. I'll remember anything I'm ever taught by Dentafrice, I make sure I never repeat in public.

GET OVER YOURSELF. It's a tiny piece of code!

[Agnostic Bear]

The SQL structure for your Kristall-Panel is atrocious.

You define someone an "id" in the users table yet you store the username in every other table. That is a really bad example of repetitive data. The aim of a database is to have as little repetitive data as possible.

"Timetable" table, you store text for a username. Text in MySQL can have a maximum field length of 65535 characters. I have never seen a username this long! varchar(30) will be adequate enough.

"online" table, I see no need for at all. You can just store the same fields in the users table. Therefore losing a table and saving repetitive data.

By storing the username in every table it will be causing MySQL to take longer to execute:
1) Searching a numerical value is faster
2) Usernames may contain both alpha and numerical characters, this means MySQL has to work doubly hard to process both ascii types.
3) Usernames are much harder to track across multiple tables and may easily be duplicated.

I'm not even gonna begin to start how stupid your points are.

Ok I will.

1) Search a numerical field and searching a text field are going to take less than 0.001 of a second, and on a very small DJ panel used by very small sites, there's nothing to worry about, if I wanted efficiency, I would be efficient.

2) Usernames are only tracked from the Request table, PM table and user table if I'm remembering correctly.

3) Their ID was to sort by ID, as was everything, not a reference. I give id references now anyway.

And last but not least


IT'S 2 YEARS OLD

[DarrenToogood]

You could great a new football team - Spam United ;l

[Agnostic Bear]

You could great a new football team - Spam United ;l

And you'd be the coach wouldn't you.