2pac alive or dead?

[whitebengal]

Ok so theres a theory that 2pac may still be alive and is just living under police protection...Apparently 2pac knew this was going to happen and left a few hints and clues in a few of his songs...


Warning - May contain strong language!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=GLt_g3W57gs&feature=related



This one is a bit freaky

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWa-clWMZ7Q&feature=related


What do you guys think?

Threads merged by Shrlurp (Forum Moderator): Based on the same subject.

[bo$$]

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[Fifteen]

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I agree.

[Breakfloor]

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[jesus]

Why post a B*Witched video?

[Rafiki]

I say hey boy sitting in a tree, lalala

2pac is alive and hideing (:

[DPS]

2pac is dead =]

6pac anit =]

[Jackboy]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=GLt_g3W57gs&feature=related



Why post a B*Witched video?
Attempted rik roll?

Apparantly the drive by was an ACCIDENT...

Omg yeh the second video... IT could be!

But its like the 9/11 thing, 9 11

That thing where they go on about 11 stars or W/E or summin.

[jesus]

I just watched all of this video, it's 8 minutes ish but quite interesting and raises some valid and suspicious points that have made me wonder whether he really is alive or not.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=1z_aOHJdHO8

At the end someone actually gets 'him' on film. If it's not him then it's an identical twin.



Click this as well: http://ewsonline.com/2pac/alive.html

[Swearwolf]

dead tbh

[samsaBEAR]

I just watched all of this video, it's 8 minutes ish but quite interesting and raises some valid and suspicious points that have made me wonder whether he really is alive or not.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=1z_aOHJdHO8

At the end someone actually gets 'him' on film. If it's not him then it's an identical twin.



Click this as well: http://ewsonline.com/2pac/alive.html

i must admit, it makes a convincing arguement. that thing at the end was a little stupid tho, if tupac was alive, and was trying to keep himself hidden, why would the people just laugh about when they were telling them to turn the camera off, surely they'd be racing over, ready to whatever to the camera to destory it/whatever.
also, about 3-4 times the guy with the backwards cap (it says LA) on it, looks at the camera quickly. it's like when you're taking a video with friends, and one always looks at the camera, even if they're not supposed to, because they can't help it. if you get what i mean.
id like to believe he is still alive, because he is one of the few rappers i like, but idk, i think people should just leave it and see how it ends up.

also; i found that. not concrete proof, but still a little freaky
http://youtube.com/watch?v=LWa-clWMZ7Q&feature=related

[jesus]

i must admit, it makes a convincing arguement. that thing at the end was a little stupid tho, if tupac was alive, and was trying to keep himself hidden, why would the people just laugh about when they were telling them to turn the camera off, surely they'd be racing over, ready to whatever to the camera to destory it/whatever.
also, about 3-4 times the guy with the backwards cap (it says LA) on it, looks at the camera quickly. it's like when you're taking a video with friends, and one always looks at the camera, even if they're not supposed to, because they can't help it. if you get what i mean.
id like to believe he is still alive, because he is one of the few rappers i like, but idk, i think people should just leave it and see how it ends up.

also; i found that. not concrete proof, but still a little freaky
http://youtube.com/watch?v=LWa-clWMZ7Q&feature=relatedYeah I agree with the comment about the last bit, but it does look a hell of a lot like him. The rest of the video has made me think he's actually alive though as well as the other link in my previous post. The things to do with the number 7 are extremely suspicious as well, and the things to do with Makaveli in the video I posted.

[omgitslily]

this kindof stuff, not in a disrespectful way, is actually really interesting.

but yeah i'd say he's dead. the clues to it all are so weird, like the funeral was cancelled and everything.

[RedStratocas]

dead. and courtney love didnt kill kurt cobain. and the moon landing is real.

[Misawa]

He's dead, although 9/11 was an inside job.

[Paulio]

I just watched the video jesus posted. It's quite interesting. Is it true that his body got cremated just a day after he got shot? If it is then that is really good evidence that he could be alive as they would never let a body by cremated just a day after a murder.

[YoManGo!]

2pac is dead
theres no way on earth someone who was as famous as he could conceal himself completely in secrecy for so long. sorry.

[shizzle]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=U0xfWYvwLO8&feature=related

It looks like him and it could be. Have a look yourself.
He is alive many valid reasons.

[whitebengal]

Why didn't you just put this in the 2pac thread? :eusa_danc

He could be alive and is living under police protection...anything is possible...In some of his songs there are loads of hints and then the hidden messages....

It's pretty cool actually...U should search Britney spears hidden messages...They're quite weird

Here is one of them it's quite funny

http://youtube.com/watch?v=EV4kQBDoy70

[samsaBEAR]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=U0xfWYvwLO8&feature=related

It looks like him and it could be. Have a look yourself.
He is alive many valid reasons.

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=482407

[dirrty]

just cuz its a black guy who looks like him dnt mean its 2-pac. there r such things called look-a-likes.

[shizzle]

It looks exactly like him tho.

[dirrty]

yes, probably a lookalike.

do you really think if that was actually 2pac it would be plastered all over the news, not just on youtube?

[shizzle]

Not in the UK obviously, plus they don't even care :)

[dirrty]

Not in the UK obviously, plus they don't even care :)
so just because he is not from the uk, they wouldnt show that he is alive on the news? :rolleyes:
what stupid logic.
if something is news worthy, then it would be on the news, anywhere in the world. if he was actually alive, it would be all over the news as people are interested as it makes good headlines. but if its not true, then no one would bother as its just more conspiracy theories.

& why post this thread if "people dont care" :rolleyes:

[Energizer]

2pac is dead
theres no way on earth someone who was as famous as he could conceal himself completely in secrecy for so long. sorry.
i agree. don't really care though tbh.

[shizzle]

Some just want him dead.

[shizzle]

He is still alive.

[The Undertaker]

There is alot of evidence to back up the argument. But for him to still be alive, so many people would have to be involved. Friends, family, police & more. If he was alive, surely someone would have spilt it by now.

Also, the people who believed in the 7 day theory predicted that 2pac would come clean in 2007, but he never. So that theory went down the drain after that abit. The 7 day theory is all coinsidence imo.

As for the videos that claim to have seen 2pac, like this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtoxEheku8A. If he was alive, he wouldn't be randomly on the streets would he. As people have said, they are look-a-likes.

This video is really interesting http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xVzcTqggs4. The 7 day theory

[shizzle]

I've seen that video.

[BlueEyedSarah]

I thought if he was under police protection that could cost the police their jobs?

[shizzle]

Thats what I'm thinking BlueEyedSarah.

[Scouse]

i used to think he was alive, i was determand he was alive up untill 2007, but now im not sure. the video jesus posted does look alot like him, although alot more skinny, but it is possible he has lost weight, also he has the exact same smile as tupac. time will tell anyway if he is or not.
i would LOVE it if he came back! :D



I thought if he was under police protection that could cost the police their jobs?


tupac was also wanted dead, police do hide people in these circumstances

[jesus]

If he came back I reckon he'd just get shot or something.

[Scouse]

If he came back I reckon he'd just get shot or something.


who would shoot him now?
everything has died down now, no more gangsta rap or anything like that so i doubt he would and i think he'd be heavily guarded aswell.

[jesus]

I meant people who believed he was dead - someone would shoot him for spite or something.

[Zak]

its all conspiracy theorys

[BlueEyedSarah]

police do hide people in these circumstances
Then police really can't be fully trusted.

[YoManGo!]

anyone who's watched tupac's moms tv plea where she cried and asked people to stop chasing these conspiracy theories and to let her son rest knows that it's all a big hoax; held together by some striking coincidences. 2pac was getting very philisophical towards the end of his life, particularly towards makavelian theory (that to fool ones enemies you should fake your own death, basically). because 2pac's art had followed these routes and left these trails, when someone did kill him it made everything that wasn't actually connected appear that way.

if the police were hiding 2pac, then why wasn't biggie afforded the same luxury? he died in a similar way just a year later; and if 2pac was hidden because people wanted his life, then his arch rival who was in the same position would surely have been so too...

[PaintYourTarget]

dead. and courtney love didnt kill kurt cobain. and the moon landing is real.

I'd plus rep you for that if I could.

[Misawa]

Police protection is completely legitimate. Anyway, yes, he expired.

[samsaBEAR]

i used to think he was alive, i was determand he was alive up untill 2007, but now im not sure. the video jesus posted does look alot like him, although alot more skinny, but it is possible he has lost weight, also he has the exact same smile as tupac. time will tell anyway if he is or not.
i would LOVE it if he came back! :D


i lol'd
of course he's gonna change weight in the 12 years he's been dead/away. no one stays exactly the same weight for that long



Police protection is completely legitimate. Anyway, yes, he expired.
i loved the way you put that

[PyrokasSister]

Tbh i think he is dead.. because why would he want to hide exactly?
Wouldn't he want to be out there showing everyone he is alive and make some more music seeing as that was his passion?

[samsaBEAR]

Tbh i think he is dead.. because why would he want to hide exactly?
Wouldn't he want to be out there showing everyone he is alive and make some more music seeing as that was his passion?
yes, but also showing the person who shot him that he didnt kill tupac, thus sparking off another shooting

[Scouse]

i lol'd
of course he's gonna change weight in the 12 years he's been dead/away. no one stays exactly the same weight for that long



i loved the way you put that

thats what i ment :S

[RedStratocas]

It looks exactly like him tho.

i had a substitute teacher once who looked uncannily like michael j fox. does that mean i think he really doesnt have parkinson's and leads a double life as a sub?

and how come that video is crystal clear in the beginning, but then blurry as hell when they show "tupac"? you cant say it looks exactly like him - you can barely even see him.

[cunning]

Not in the UK obviously, plus they don't even care :)

That comment was so (not being rude) stupid.

He is dead...end of story.

Although he could be under protection, something like the witness protection. Who knows...

[Joshuae]

You do realise they admitted it was fake?

[shizzle]

Under police protection :P

[Reptar]

... Why do people evn bother? Tupac is dead. They showed a picture of his autopsy (idk if I spelt that right). His chest was cut open. What a waste of thread.. -.-

[shizzle]

Who said it was real?

[omgitslily]

hm okay.

i agree that it looked exactly like him.

[shizzle]

Exactly, thats what I'm saying.

[omgitslily]

i think he's dead, it would be nice to think he's alive because some of the theories are really convincing but i think it's a bit far fetched that he would be away for so long without many sightings or the word getting out, or even him just confessing it all.

[Reptar]

Tbh i think he is dead.. because why would he want to hide exactly?
Wouldn't he want to be out there showing everyone he is alive and make some more music seeing as that was his passion?
Through out his life he was part of a gang. 2 gangs that hate each other, want to kill the opposing gang. If he really isn't dead, he's trying to protect his life. Although I don't think he's alive because they have a HUGE memorial in Cali for him. I mean it's huge. It has TVs in it, a pool. It's loaded. But that's just one of the worlds mysteries.

[whitebengal]

Through out his life he was part of a gang. 2 gangs that hate each other, want to kill the opposing gang. If he really isn't dead, he's trying to protect his life. Although I don't think he's alive because they have a HUGE memorial in Cali for him. I mean it's huge. It has TVs in it, a pool. It's loaded. But that's just one of the worlds mysteries.

Lol Just because there is a memorial doesn't mean he is dead....If he is under police protection then the police would want every one to think he is dead...so a memorial is a good start :P
I don't know...It could be a hoax and it could be true, Everything is possible and loads of things happen which the public have no idea about!
Anything is possible these days so I'm 50/50 really. The hidden messages are still weird though...A bit freaky! :8


Nice day today btw :eusa_danc

[Reptar]

But I never stated he WAS dead. What would be the point in paying all that money for a memorial when he's not even in it? Just think of it like that. Tupac. Alive or Dead? One of the worlds Mysteries.

[FlyingJesus]

7 Day Theory is quite interesting but just a lot of coincidence, much like with all the OMG 9/11 = 911 = US POLICE NUMBA!! stuff and the film Number 23 or whatever it was. If he was still alive he'd still be up and walking about making music and stuff - the fact that he was wanted dead never stopped him before, this wasn't exactly the first time he was shot at and he wouldn't have been likely to actually fear it.
Further, as someone pointed out, too many people would have to be involved in something like this for it to be a cover up, and someone would have leaked it by now; 12 years is a long time for every to be hushed without being tempted by the fame and money they'd get for revealing actual facts about him being around still.

[shizzle]

Then police really can't be fully trusted.
I agree.

[Reptar]

Police can't be trusted. There's dirty cops. If he was alive, don't you think a cop would've leaked it out to the public for money?

[shizzle]

Police can't be trusted. There's dirty cops. If he was alive, don't you think a cop would've leaked it out to the public for money?
All I've got to say is that he is still living.

[omgitslily]

All I've got to say is that he is still living.


ha you never seem to have an argument, that's all you say ;D


well.
i read that he talks about the world trade center attack in one of his songs? the site seemed a bit dodgy so it could easily but made up and i wouldn't know if he does so yeah? it wouldn't be possible if it's true though.

[Reptar]

Tupac is still one of the worlds mysteries.

[shizzle]

So what lily I know he is simple.

[:Edzy]

I think he is still alive.

In some of his tribute official merchandise there are pictures of him with a watch designed in 2004.

We'll find out one day.


7 Day Theory is quite interesting but just a lot of coincidence, much like with all the OMG 9/11 = 911 = US POLICE NUMBA!! stuff and the film Number 23 or whatever it was. If he was still alive he'd still be up and walking about making music and stuff - the fact that he was wanted dead never stopped him before, this wasn't exactly the first time he was shot at and he wouldn't have been likely to actually fear it.
Further, as someone pointed out, too many people would have to be involved in something like this for it to be a cover up, and someone would have leaked it by now; 12 years is a long time for every to be hushed without being tempted by the fame and money they'd get for revealing actual facts about him being around still.

The wierdest thing is that in wingdings the flight number (Q33) comes up as two towers and a plane.

[omgitslily]

I think he is still alive.

In some of his tribute official merchandise there are pictures of him with a watch designed in 2004.

We'll find out one day.



yeah in some videos he wears shoes that weren't out before his death, but this could just be cause he's all famous and gets exclusive stuff. 8 years does seem a bit too exclusive though ? ha.

[shizzle]

Thats a good fact edzy.


13. 2Pac always wore a bulletproof vest but for some strange reason he didn't wear one this time.. why not?

(I've heard Suge Knight was caught on surveilance cameras at the fight telling 2Pac to take off the vest 'cause it was hot in there. If this is true, why would Suge Knight not want 2Pac wearing his vest???)


14. The memorial services that were open to the public were canceled in both Los Angeles and Atlanta.

(This could be in the request of family or friends. It's quite possible.)

15. 2Pac's vehicle got shot 12 times and Suge didn't get hit once.. He was 'grazed' by a bullet.. Why did 2Pac get shot all those times and Suge not get hit?

16. The white Cadillac containing the assailants was never found... How could this be when Vegas is in the middle of a desert?

17. Las Vegas is in the middle of the desert. How come there was no helicopter chase? If some one were to rob a casino, the LVPD would've chased you down with some helicopters.. . How come this didn't happen with 2Pac shooting?

[samsaBEAR]

I think he is still alive.

In some of his tribute official merchandise there are pictures of him with a watch designed in 2004.

We'll find out one day.



The wierdest thing is that in wingdings the flight number (Q33) comes up as two towers and a plane.
i must admit, i think that webdings thing is a little spooky


yeah in some videos he wears shoes that weren't out before his death, but this could just be cause he's all famous and gets exclusive stuff. 8 years does seem a bit too exclusive though ? ha.
lol ive always thought that, its true that famous people get stuff earlier, to promote it in advance of sale, but im sure it doesnt stretch that far in advance

[FlyingJesus]

All I've got to say is that he is still living.

Not gonna provide any reasons?


i read that he talks about the world trade center attack in one of his songs? the site seemed a bit dodgy so it could easily but made up and i wouldn't know if he does so yeah? it wouldn't be possible if it's true though.

He does yeah, but the WTC had been attacked before, it's just not that well known as an event because it wasn't successful


The wierdest thing is that in wingdings the flight number (Q33) comes up as two towers and a plane.

Wasn't wingdings created in like the 80s :S be impossible to plan that far ahead, I still put it down to extreme coincidence

[Sharpsterz]

at the end of the video

http://youtube.com/watch?v=1z_aOHJdHO8

couldnt the guy filming jsut ask if it was 2pac?

[samsaBEAR]

Not gonna provide any reasons?



He does yeah, but the WTC had been attacked before, it's just not that well known as an event because it wasn't successful



Wasn't wingdings created in like the 80s :S be impossible to plan that far ahead, I still put it down to extreme coincidence
maybe the flight number was like that so that the webdings made it out to be the plane and the two towers
it sounds stupid, but this would then launch tons of conspiracy theories (which it has) and make the idea that it was staged sound ridiculous. backwards logic, or w/e its called, i cant remember

[YoManGo!]

maybe the flight number was like that so that the webdings made it out to be the plane and the two towers
it sounds stupid, but this would then launch tons of conspiracy theories (which it has) and make the idea that it was staged sound ridiculous. backwards logic, or w/e its called, i cant remember

double bluff/red herring sorta thing?

[samsaBEAR]

double bluff/red herring sorta thing?
kinda yeh
im thinking of when you say something, that will make the person believe the opposite, which is what you originally wanted them to think.
reverse logic or something like that i think

[BlueEyedSarah]

... Why do people evn bother? Tupac is dead. They showed a picture of his autopsy (idk if I spelt that right). His chest was cut open. What a waste of thread.. -.-
They did that? Thats discusting and wrong :@

[shizzle]

Not gonna provide any reasons?



He does yeah, but the WTC had been attacked before, it's just not that well known as an event because it wasn't successful



Wasn't wingdings created in like the 80s :S be impossible to plan that far ahead, I still put it down to extreme coincidence
If you read the post then you would of found out.


13. 2Pac always wore a bulletproof vest but for some strange reason he didn't wear one this time.. why not?

(I've heard Suge Knight was caught on surveilance cameras at the fight telling 2Pac to take off the vest 'cause it was hot in there. If this is true, why would Suge Knight not want 2Pac wearing his vest???)


14. The memorial services that were open to the public were canceled in both Los Angeles and Atlanta.

(This could be in the request of family or friends. It's quite possible.)

15. 2Pac's vehicle got shot 12 times and Suge didn't get hit once.. He was 'grazed' by a bullet.. Why did 2Pac get shot all those times and Suge not get hit?

16. The white Cadillac containing the assailants was never found... How could this be when Vegas is in the middle of a desert?

17. Las Vegas is in the middle of the desert. How come there was no helicopter chase? If some one were to rob a casino, the LVPD would've chased you down with some helicopters.. . How come this didn't happen with 2Pac shooting?

[Lyrical.Troop]

2Pac began calling himself Makaveli. Machiavelli was an Italian war strategist who advocated faking one's death to fool their enemies. 2Pac was a fan of Machiavelli and had read his books. Perhaps 2Pac is taking his advice?

(But that is not all Machiavelli did... Nicolo Machiavelli was a political, military theorist, historian, playwright, diplomat, and military planner. He is well known today. Some of his works are "The Prince" (1513), and The Art of War (1521). NOTE: Bone Thugs 'N' Harmony's new double album which features 2Pac is called "The Art Of War." Coincedence Or Not???)

2Pac was cremated the day after he died. Since when does some one get cremated the day after a murder? There was no autopsy. Plus, no one can ask to dig up his grave like they wanted to do with Elvis and like they did with Abraham Lincoln.

There are many numerological coincidences. Tupac was gunned down exactly seven months after All Eyez On Me was released. The number seven keeps coming up too. He was shot on September 7th and survived on 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th, and died the 13th. This could explain the title of his new album.... "The Don Killuminati: The 7 day theory." 2pac was 25. His age adds up to 7 (2 + 5). Even his time of death, 4:03, adds up to 7 (4 + 0 + 3). Also, on track five on the Makaveli album the voice at the begining says "And if the Lord returns in the coming seven days, then we'll see ya next time." He even talks about the number 7 on his album! There are more 'coincidences' too.. The newest is on his brand new double album entitled "R U Still Down?". This album was released on November 25th. 2 + 5 = 7. The 7 day theory continues! What's with this????

In the video "Toss It Up", 2Pac is supposedly wearing some Penny Hardaway sneakers which were not available at the time of his death!!!! Also, some say in the video "Live & Die In LA" when 2Pac jumps in the car you see that he is wearing some Michael Jordan sneakers which were not available at the time of his death!

20. Have you seen the video of the song "Smile" by Scarface and Makaveli?? I have heard it's not 2Pac in that video. It is the look-alike from Ohio. (That's why '2Pac' never looks at the camera) The video starts out showing a car just like the one 2Pac got shot in, and the car of course has bullet holes in it! You then hear garbled words and then they show 2Pac (Makaveli) up posing as Jesus Christ again! That's Twice! Once on the album & now in this video! ?????????

[shizzle]

Nice facts there.

[Dusty-09]

Face the facts, sadly hes dead. If he survived the shooting then he wouldve made an appearance by now 12 years? 12 YEARS! 2pac isnt a guy who would sit around hiding for that long, he goes out and about. The video showing the sighting of 2pac could have easily been a look a like. The theories of machiaveli (soz if spelling is wrong) they are just because 2pac was so inspired by him, he probably wanted to change his name to that I dont know, his record company posted an album as 2pac after his death, they couldve done it for respect and then changed his name to makaveli which he mustve requested.

And I would doubt the police would put him under protection, someone would leak some information by now.

So yeah to be honest, 12 years and just these little things? No, hes dead.

Edit: The fact that he poses as jesus christ could be that hes religious, many rap artists have tattoos and chains which have the cross, which is showing they are religious.

[samsaBEAR]

They did that? Thats discusting and wrong :@
an autopsy is done to determine how the person died.

[:Edzy]

maybe the flight number was like that so that the webdings made it out to be the plane and the two towers
it sounds stupid, but this would then launch tons of conspiracy theories (which it has) and make the idea that it was staged sound ridiculous. backwards logic, or w/e its called, i cant remember

If it was staged, the towers might still exist "/


2Pac began calling himself Makaveli. Machiavelli was an Italian war strategist who advocated faking one's death to fool their enemies. 2Pac was a fan of Machiavelli and had read his books. Perhaps 2Pac is taking his advice?

(But that is not all Machiavelli did... Nicolo Machiavelli was a political, military theorist, historian, playwright, diplomat, and military planner. He is well known today. Some of his works are "The Prince" (1513), and The Art of War (1521). NOTE: Bone Thugs 'N' Harmony's new double album which features 2Pac is called "The Art Of War." Coincedence Or Not???)

2Pac was cremated the day after he died. Since when does some one get cremated the day after a murder? There was no autopsy. Plus, no one can ask to dig up his grave like they wanted to do with Elvis and like they did with Abraham Lincoln.

There are many numerological coincidences. Tupac was gunned down exactly seven months after All Eyez On Me was released. The number seven keeps coming up too. He was shot on September 7th and survived on 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th, and died the 13th. This could explain the title of his new album.... "The Don Killuminati: The 7 day theory." 2pac was 25. His age adds up to 7 (2 + 5). Even his time of death, 4:03, adds up to 7 (4 + 0 + 3). Also, on track five on the Makaveli album the voice at the begining says "And if the Lord returns in the coming seven days, then we'll see ya next time." He even talks about the number 7 on his album! There are more 'coincidences' too.. The newest is on his brand new double album entitled "R U Still Down?". This album was released on November 25th. 2 + 5 = 7. The 7 day theory continues! What's with this????

In the video "Toss It Up", 2Pac is supposedly wearing some Penny Hardaway sneakers which were not available at the time of his death!!!! Also, some say in the video "Live & Die In LA" when 2Pac jumps in the car you see that he is wearing some Michael Jordan sneakers which were not available at the time of his death!

20. Have you seen the video of the song "Smile" by Scarface and Makaveli?? I have heard it's not 2Pac in that video. It is the look-alike from Ohio. (That's why '2Pac' never looks at the camera) The video starts out showing a car just like the one 2Pac got shot in, and the car of course has bullet holes in it! You then hear garbled words and then they show 2Pac (Makaveli) up posing as Jesus Christ again! That's Twice! Once on the album & now in this video! ?????????


Really good facts there.


Face the facts, sadly hes dead. If he survived the shooting then he wouldve made an appearance by now 12 years? 12 YEARS! 2pac isnt a guy who would sit around hiding for that long, he goes out and about. The video showing the sighting of 2pac could have easily been a look a like. The theories of machiaveli (soz if spelling is wrong) they are just because 2pac was so inspired by him, he probably wanted to change his name to that I dont know, his record company posted an album as 2pac after his death, they couldve done it for respect and then changed his name to makaveli which he mustve requested.

And I would doubt the police would put him under protection, someone would leak some information by now.

So yeah to be honest, 12 years and just these little things? No, hes dead.

Edit: The fact that he poses as jesus christ could be that hes religious, many rap artists have tattoos and chains which have the cross, which is showing they are religious.

If a person fakes ones death i think they'd look into all this. And 12 years? Yes. His attacker could well still be around and ready.


an autopsy is done to determine how the person died.

Yeah but to release the pictures. sick. theyre on google

AND His face is facing away.

___

I'm a believer that he's alive, but people have noticed these things, why would he have made it so obvious that he was alive.

We'll find out someday.

[samsaBEAR]

kinda yeh
im thinking of when you say something, that will make the person believe the opposite, which is what you originally wanted them to think.
reverse logic or something like that i think
reverse psychology is what i mean :D
got there in the end

[shizzle]

Face the facts, sadly hes dead. If he survived the shooting then he wouldve made an appearance by now 12 years? 12 YEARS! 2pac isnt a guy who would sit around hiding for that long, he goes out and about. The video showing the sighting of 2pac could have easily been a look a like. The theories of machiaveli (soz if spelling is wrong) they are just because 2pac was so inspired by him, he probably wanted to change his name to that I dont know, his record company posted an album as 2pac after his death, they couldve done it for respect and then changed his name to makaveli which he mustve requested.

And I would doubt the police would put him under protection, someone would leak some information by now.

So yeah to be honest, 12 years and just these little things? No, hes dead.

Edit: The fact that he poses as jesus christ could be that hes religious, many rap artists have tattoos and chains which have the cross, which is showing they are religious.
Have you notice that there is more facts that he is alive then he is dead.

[FlyingJesus]

Answer just this one thing then: why would he want to hide for this long?

[:Edzy]

Answer just this one thing then: why would he want to hide for this long?

because he is in fear of his life?

[FlyingJesus]

He'd been shot plenty of times before and come back, that's not a good answer.

[Rarelime]

2pac is dead. He is only alive in your heads.

[:Edzy]

He'd been shot plenty of times before and come back, that's not a good answer.

maybe thats why, maybe he doesnt want to be shot anymore because one of these times he will.

[shizzle]

because he is in fear of his life?
True, his life will be at risk.

[chilloutrich]

hes dead and even if he is hiding in some exotic island then he is dead and its been kept quiet.

[Bonxy]

he is alive

no body ever found..he is i thinks!

[Dusty-09]

Have you notice that there is more facts that he is alive then he is dead.
Well its obvious theres more that hes alive, but they are mere coincedences, the fact that there is more is because people have looked into this and have tried to squeeze as much as they can out of it. As I said 12 years is too long. Stop believing hes alive. Hes dead. DEAD!

[shizzle]

Well its obvious theres more that hes alive, but they are mere coincedences, the fact that there is more is because people have looked into this and have tried to squeeze as much as they can out of it. As I said 12 years is too long. Stop believing hes alive. Hes dead. DEAD!
Well you have no evidence that he Is dead. If he was dead then how come the public memorial service was cancelled two times.

[FlyingJesus]

Why would being alive make them change the memorial service date? That makes no sense at all, lots of things can make people change the date of a funeral but being alive wouldn't have done it.

[shizzle]

Because he is not actually dead but they had his statue. In the pac's life ft. t.i and ashanti.
http://sugahillz.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/tupac2.jpg
http://politicalpartypoop.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/tupac.jpg

[Supersam]

Would I be an outcast if I said I really don't care either way?

The youtube video that jesus posted was good to start but then got abit silly when it started talking about his aes being 2 + 5 = 7 etc...

[shizzle]

If you don't care then don't post here.

[Supersam]

I have a right to post where I like so stop posting off-topic...

How did he actually die?

[Mario]

BOTH.
just jokin, dunno.

[shizzle]

I know, but most people who don't bother don't post. He didn't die thats the problem.

[omgitslily]

It's obvious that you're entitled to your own opinion, but to state that he 'didn't die' is really ignorant. You've got to think of both sides of the argument and that none of us here actually know the definite truth at all.

[whitebengal]

I have a right to post where I like so stop posting off-topic...

How did he actually die?

He was shot in the head...."apparently" Who knows :rolleyes:

[shizzle]

He was shot in the head...."apparently" Who knows :rolleyes:
According to some people thats true. People who are not familiar to it will presume this and follow off other people. I've seen people copy on youtube whistle I listen to tupac tracks, in the comments I see people saying stuff like "R.I.P best rapper" etc, and some just go "he is not dead you blah blah" So it depends really if you look into it and you was a fan of Tupac and then you can suspect things that don't look right.

[Angelspy]

Some people follow the 7 day thoery most of tupac songa relate back to the number 7,

There are many numerological coincidences. Tupac was gunned down exactly seven months after All Eyez On Me was released. The number seven keeps coming up too. He was shot on September 7th and survived on 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th, and died the 13th. This could explain the title of his new album.... "The Don Killuminati: The 7 day theory." 2pac was 25. His age adds up to 7 (2 + 5). Even his time of death, 4:03, adds up to 7 (4 + 0 + 3). Also, on track five on the Makaveli album the voice at the begining says "And if the Lord returns in the coming seven days, then we'll see ya next time." He even talks about the number 7 on his album! There are more 'coincidences' too.. The newest is on his brand new double album entitled "R U Still Down?". This album was released on November 25th. 2 + 5 = 7. The 7 day theory continues! What's with this????

people believe he still alive writing songs, some say his dead but he will return, others believe he has gone forever,

[shizzle]

Some people follow the 7 day thoery most of tupac songa relate back to the number 7,

There are many numerological coincidences. Tupac was gunned down exactly seven months after All Eyez On Me was released. The number seven keeps coming up too. He was shot on September 7th and survived on 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th, and died the 13th. This could explain the title of his new album.... "The Don Killuminati: The 7 day theory." 2pac was 25. His age adds up to 7 (2 + 5). Even his time of death, 4:03, adds up to 7 (4 + 0 + 3). Also, on track five on the Makaveli album the voice at the begining says "And if the Lord returns in the coming seven days, then we'll see ya next time." He even talks about the number 7 on his album! There are more 'coincidences' too.. The newest is on his brand new double album entitled "R U Still Down?". This album was released on November 25th. 2 + 5 = 7. The 7 day theory continues! What's with this????

people believe he still alive writing songs, some say his dead but he will return, others believe he has gone forever,

In his lyrics, it hints he is still alive.

Never forget, that God hasn't finished with me yet
I feel his hand on my brain
When I write rhymes, I go blind, and let the lord do his thang

[Angelspy]

I still reckon he is alive writing songs under a different name

[FlyingJesus]

All his lyrics were like that before he died too.. he was fascinated with death and being close to it, hence why I refuse to believe that he simply wimped out and faked his death. If he really did manage it though, how can you account for the fact that no-one's spoken out about it that would actually know (ie: police, hospital staff, close friend and family)?

[Angelspy]

because if his wish is that he doesnt want to be in the limelight and thats why he faked his own death, Maybe dont you think that his family / friends will respect that decsion doesnt mean he doesnt get in contact with them, and maybe you never know the hospital, police people was payed off to keep their mouths shut x

[FlyingJesus]

1) He wanted to be in the limelight, that's why he started out in the first place and why he kept going...
2) No matter how much you pay someone off, having proof that Tupac's alive would be a story worth so much more and there's no way that with the number of people who'd have to be involved no-one would sell the story.

[Angelspy]

1) He wanted to be in the limelight, that's why he started out in the first place and why he kept going...
2) No matter how much you pay someone off, having proof that Tupac's alive would be a story worth so much more and there's no way that with the number of people who'd have to be involved no-one would sell the story.

Line from Legallu blonde now your thinking like a lawyer, I personally dont know if his alive or dead, I do believe that if you want to go out of the limelight then the way forward is to fake your own death, Take Elvis presley many people believe he faked his own death for so many reasons, Now take tupac he was AS famous as elvis , maybe he didnt want to be in the limelight anymore, not everyone who starts off wants the fame and fortune for long (just an opionon)

[FlyingJesus]

That's a fair enough motive to bring up but I don't think Tupac would have been likely to not enjoy the limelight; he was a really intelligent bloke and enjoyed having such an influence on people. He kept himself in the public eye purposely so that he could voice his opinions on the church, charities, family and stuff like that, not to mention his campaign for a gangster code which would make gang warfare far less bloody and more personal.

[Angelspy]

you have good points,

[JessicaLOL]

hes dead lmao

[shizzle]

He is not dead ^

[Angelspy]

He is not dead ^


I agree with fruit his not dead !!

[shizzle]

I agree with fruit his not dead !!
Yes, if you going to argue to that, read my above posts.

[buttons]

how can his life be in danger, surely the people who tried/succeded in shooting him would be locked up for a long time :S

[Fehm]

He is dead. :(

[FlyingJesus]

how can his life be in danger, surely the people who tried/succeded in shooting him would be locked up for a long time :S

They were never caught lol

[shizzle]

how can his life be in danger, surely the people who tried/succeded in shooting him would be locked up for a long time :S
People try to kill him, but if he comes back then he is in danger.

[buttons]

maybe he was in danger in the first place so he faked his own death

but ur all just holdin gonto false hope, he is dead :S

[FlyingJesus]

I can't believe someone who believes themself to be a real fan thinks that he's such a coward that he'd fake his own death to get away from a lifestyle he's always had and never had a problem with before. Have some respect.

[shizzle]

He was influenced.

[FlyingJesus]

Ahahaha yeah because he was a real pushover.

[shizzle]

And he wanted to be like that person.

[Angelspy]

Listen to have your believes and fruit and me have another no need to be rude about it !! Everyone is intitled to their OWN opionon and we respect yours so please respect ours to believe his alive, Theirs no right or wrong answer and we will proberly never know the truth

[dirrty]

And he wanted to be like that person.
bloody hell ur acting like u actually knew him and were in his mind. ur past posts regarding this topic is proof of this.

[:Edzy]

I can't believe someone who believes themself to be a real fan thinks that he's such a coward that he'd fake his own death to get away from a lifestyle he's always had and never had a problem with before. Have some respect.

People like to change their lifestyle :p

[shizzle]

bloody hell ur acting like u actually knew him and were in his mind. ur past posts regarding this topic is proof of this.
Really? Thanks for mentioning it.