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Paulio
12-05-2008, 05:27 PM
I'd like to give some feedback on the rule that doesn't allow us to use "*****" - I've just got an infraction for it which I think is harsh (Don't move this thread to ask forum moderators as I'm givign feedback on what I think).

If we're going to receive an infraction for it, shouldn't it be filtered? It's a term that is used day in, day out on Habbo and with most other teenagers over MSN. Why give people a bad record for saying something most people probz don't even know that thier not allowed to say?

Also, it's great how the second I critisise jesus I start to get infraction coming out my bum. Some of the mods on this forum are starting to get corrupt as hell.

Edit: I've just relised how it's now filtered. If it's filtered, why did I recieve an infraction for it?

Thread closed by e5 (Forum Moderator) - Due to bump

GommeInc
12-05-2008, 05:29 PM
Goodness knows, the system is there to stop it, so the mods don;t need to act. If they acted, then that should be a problem "/ What is the word btw? You are allowed to avoid it as long as it seems acceptable (or I've not been ifnracted before at least) :)

Paulio
12-05-2008, 05:31 PM
It was lmao with an f.


Goodness knows, the system is there to stop it, so the mods don;t need to act. If they acted, then that should be a problem "/ What is the word btw? You are allowed to avoid it as long as it seems acceptable (or I've not been ifnracted before at least) :)

GommeInc
12-05-2008, 05:31 PM
That should be allowed really, considering shiz is and the A word is filtered...

Inseriousity.
12-05-2008, 05:32 PM
Probably because we're official now? The rules always get harsher when fansites become official. :(

Wootzeh
12-05-2008, 05:34 PM
Probably because we're official now? The rules always get harsher when fansites become official. :(
you can remove the filter on habbo...

Paulio
12-05-2008, 05:34 PM
There isn't a filter on Habbo so I doubt there is rules regarding swearing for official fan sites.

I agree with Gomme. Why isn't "lmao" filtered when the a word in it is filtered? :S

The rules arn't consistent.


Probably because we're official now? The rules always get harsher when fansites become official. :(

jesus
12-05-2008, 05:34 PM
One of the words that a certain letter represents is filtered and quite a harsh swear word, that's why.

Paulio
12-05-2008, 05:37 PM
Yes but if that's the case, why isn't "lmao" filtered as the a word in that is filtered. Not that I want it to be filtered as it's harsh. You're telling us that we can't use common internet terms that are used by most of us on a daily basis. This is the only forum I've ever seen this rule on.


One of the words that a certain letter represents is filtered and quite a harsh swear word, that's why.

Hitman
12-05-2008, 05:38 PM
It was not an infraction, it was a warning so it's not as harsh. "*****" is filtered, but in the post you clearly wrote that - not sure how you bypassed it, unless it has been added to the filter recently.

Wootzeh
12-05-2008, 05:38 PM
One of the words that a certain letter represents is filtered and quite a harsh swear word, that's why.
not used in an offensive context though, which is why piss is unfiltered?

GommeInc
12-05-2008, 05:42 PM
One of the words that a certain letter represents is filtered and quite a harsh swear word, that's why.
So? It's a common internet term used by children of 10 through their teens and adults, and members joining this forum should be in their teens, and it's not even harsh unless you like the nanny culture type things. Plus the other word for donkey is filtered and lmao and lm*ao has it in! Is ROFFL filtered by the way? Because it translates to "rolling on F word floor laughing."

And as Wootzeh said, it can't be used as an offensive term, which is why piss was unfiltered (strangely not the 4 letter D word which was asked to be unfiltered).

jesus
12-05-2008, 05:42 PM
not used in an offensive context though, which is why piss is unfiltered?The 'f' word is a lot more harsh and unpleasant.

Paulio
12-05-2008, 05:42 PM
Well if it wasn't added to the filter until recently, surely it should be removed as it was unfair that I had no previous warning and if it had apeard in stars I would have removed it and replaced it with "lmao" :S


It was not an infraction, it was a warning so it's not as harsh. "*****" is filtered, but in the post you clearly wrote that - not sure how you bypassed it, unless it has been added to the filter recently.

jesus
12-05-2008, 05:43 PM
Well if it wasn't added to the filter until recently, surely it should be removed as it was unfair that I had no previous warning and if it had apeard in stars I would have removed it and replaced it with "lmao" :SIt's always been classed as avoiding the filter and always will be, because that's what it is. As is the alternative to 'gtho'.

e5
12-05-2008, 05:44 PM
If it's not filtered, as far as we know it's ok. You say Lmao, so if you to make that sound more pronounced and show that you're laughing more, you put an F in. TBH in my books lmao with an f is 'laughing as flipping *** off'.

Niall!
12-05-2008, 05:44 PM
I'd like to give some feedback on the rule that doesn't allow us to use "*****" - I've just got an infraction for it which I think is harsh (Don't move this thread to ask forum moderators as I'm givign feedback on what I think).

If we're going to receive an infraction for it, shouldn't it be filtered? It's a term that is used day in, day out on Habbo and with most other teenagers over MSN. Why give people a bad record for saying something most people probz don't even know that thier not allowed to say?

Also, it's great how the second I critisise jesus I start to get infraction coming out my bum. Some of the mods on this forum are starting to get corrupt as hell.

Edit: I've just relised how it's now filtered. If it's filtered, why did I recieve an infraction for it?

I agree, I made a remark about him and two minutes later was warned by him.

Paulio
12-05-2008, 05:45 PM
Why asume that it always has? Habbox has been around since 2004. It wasn't then and it has never caused anyone any offence. (That I'm aware of). Infact, I've never come accross anyone that finds it offencive.


It's always been classed as avoiding the filter and always will be, because that's what it is. As is the alternative to 'gtho'.

GommeInc
12-05-2008, 05:46 PM
I am interested actually, technically you can't filter an abbreviation because you can change the words. LM*AO could be "Laughing my flipping bottom off."

Galaxay
12-05-2008, 05:47 PM
I'd like to give some feedback on the rule that doesn't allow us to use "*****" - I've just got an infraction for it which I think is harsh (Don't move this thread to ask forum moderators as I'm givign feedback on what I think).

If we're going to receive an infraction for it, shouldn't it be filtered? It's a term that is used day in, day out on Habbo and with most other teenagers over MSN. Why give people a bad record for saying something most people probz don't even know that thier not allowed to say?

Also, it's great how the second I critisise jesus I start to get infraction coming out my bum. Some of the mods on this forum are starting to get corrupt as hell.

Edit: I've just relised how it's now filtered. If it's filtered, why did I recieve an infraction for it?

Yeh i asked jesus to remove something then he refused, as i used rules to back up why it should be he had to do it, since then he's gave me an infraction and 2 warnings (within last 3 days?). :rolleyes:

Paulio
12-05-2008, 05:47 PM
For the record, "laugh my flipping 'at off" was what I was actually saying. ;)

And that's two replys I've seen with members having the same problem as me with a super moderator. I was going to send a report to nvrspk4 about him then relised I had a life lol.


I am interested actually, technically you can't filter an abbreviation because you can change the words. LM*AO could be "Laughing my flipping bottom off."

jesus
12-05-2008, 05:48 PM
Why asume that it always has? Habbox has been around since 2004. It wasn't then and it has never caused anyone any offence. (That I'm aware of). Infact, I've never come accross anyone that finds it offencive.Maybe they don't find it offensive but it's still a filtered word, and by 'always has been' I meant ever since I became a moderator. Everyone gets infracted for it and they have done since I can remember.

GommeInc
12-05-2008, 05:51 PM
Maybe they don't find it offensive but it's still a filtered word, and by 'always has been' I meant ever since I became a moderator. Everyone gets infracted for it and they have done since I can remember.
May I point out why Habbox Forum should unfilter the A word?

Habbox.com has it written on the site, adding to that it isn't offensive:

http://www.habbox.com/site//content/view/2714/281/

Go down to abbreviations. Surely if Habbo allowed them to do that, then surely Habbox Forum can have it unfiltered? :rolleyes:

jesus
12-05-2008, 05:52 PM
May I point out why Habbox Forum should unfiltered the A word?

Habbox.com has it written on the site, adding to that it isn't offensive:

http://www.habbox.com/site//content/view/2714/281/

Go down to abbreviations. Surely if Habbo allowed them to do that, then surely Habbox Forum can have it unfiltered? :rolleyes:You'll have to tell management about things like this, I'm only a moderator here so I don't understand why other people are having a go at me.

Hitman
12-05-2008, 05:52 PM
Well if it wasn't added to the filter until recently, surely it should be removed as it was unfair that I had no previous warning and if it had apeard in stars I would have removed it and replaced it with "lmao" :SI'm not 100% sure if it was added to the filter recently, I will find out for you.

About "lmao", it says in the rules.


A2. Don't swear - It really is as simple as it sounds. The forum filter will substitute the letters of swear words with *-signs. However some words might not have been censored as of yet, and are not suitable on this forum. It is not allowed to try to avoid the swearing filter or to post any swearing that does not come up as ***. Also it is not allowed to use any abbreviations for words that are filtered on this forum, with an exception for LMAO, PMSL and other similar variations which are allowed, even though one of the letters in the word is filtered.


What you posted had an abbreviated swear word in it, which isn't allowed.

Galaxay
12-05-2008, 05:54 PM
Laugh my *** off LMAO

Pee myself laughing PMSL

Shouldnt that be p*ssing myself laughing, or peeing myself laughing, not Pee myself laughing? 8-)


ith an exception for LMAO, PMSL and other similar variations which are allowed, even though one of the letters in the word is filtered.

"even though one of the letters in the word is filtered", so if you can "break" the rules (to an extent) using *** and Piss, then surely you can for Gt*o or Lm*ao

Paulio
12-05-2008, 05:54 PM
But what I'm saying is it didn't apear in stars like it obviously did for everyone else. So it's unfair on me that I didn't get a warning (the word apearing in stars) so that I could edit it and avoid receiveing an infraction.


I'm not 100% sure if it was added to the filter recently, I will find out for you.

About "lmao", it says in the rules.



What you posted had an abbreviated swear word in it, which isn't allowed.

GommeInc
12-05-2008, 05:55 PM
You'll have to tell management about things like this, I'm only a moderator here so I don't understand why other people are having a go at me.

Because you're taking the brunt for it as if you do :P just pointing out that that Habbox.com don't find it offensive, even though they're the ones official, not HabboxForum.com. Also, I think that rule needs changing to allow lm*ao, because it's just as bad as lmao, and you can claim the f means flipping :P

Axel
12-05-2008, 05:57 PM
REMOVED isn't filtered. It contains the F word in. Hey, why not make every abbreviation with an f, s, p, c, whatever sweard word, filter it.

Edited by jesus (Forum Super Moderator): Please do not avoid the forum language filter.

Hitman
12-05-2008, 05:59 PM
But what I'm saying is it didn't apear in stars like it obviously did for everyone else. So it's unfair on me that I didn't get a warning (the word apearing in stars) so that I could edit it and avoid receiveing an infraction.As I said, I'm not 100% sure on this and I'll ask about it. I can remember other people using it not long ago and it not appearing in stars, so maybe it was filtered.

Even so, you still knew what you were posting and if you'd of read the rules (not sure if people do now :P) then you'd of seen it's not allowed anyway.

Axel
12-05-2008, 06:00 PM
Haha OMG I got a warning for pointing out something that wasn't filtered... what a forum you've got here.

Galaxay
12-05-2008, 06:01 PM
0wn3d 4x3l lma0


I think its safe to say no-one reads the rules unless they have to prove mods wrong (as jesus would know ;))

Hitman
12-05-2008, 06:03 PM
0wn3d 4x3l lma0


I think its safe to say no-one reads the rules unless they have to prove mods wrong (as jesus would know ;))Well then it's their own fault for not reading the rules. I know it can be a drag reading them, but that's why there's the bold red text that sums it up and the other text to give a description.

Axel
12-05-2008, 06:04 PM
They might as well censor every word, they might be abbreviations. Forum <- contains the f word, filter plox.

Paulio
12-05-2008, 06:04 PM
The mods on this forum were starting to get sooooooo much better before I went for a break. It's people like you that are starting to make it infraction heaven again. Seriously, why infract him when all he's trying to do is make a point. How can he put across his opinon on the subject if he's going to get an infraction for it. Forums are designed for members to give their opinion and you're preventing him from doing that. I mean fair enough you're a new mod but what you're doing is just ****. You're giving people a bad record which could one day prevent them working for Habbox.

Axel make sure you report it as that is one of the most unfairest infractions I've seen.


REMOVED isn't filtered. It contains the F word in. Hey, why not make every abbreviation with an f, s, p, c, whatever sweard word, filter it.

Edited by jesus (Forum Super Moderator): Please do not avoid the forum language filter.

Leetzgirl
12-05-2008, 06:07 PM
Haha OMG I got a warning for pointing out something that wasn't filtered... what a forum you've got here.

It feedback, and it was fine? :rolleyes: fair enoygh if it rude, remove it, but dont give warnings out lmao :rolleyes:.

Shows how crap the forum is with mods.

p.s not to all mods ;).

Axel
12-05-2008, 06:07 PM
I wouldn't even want to work for Habbox with some of the staff.

Paulio
12-05-2008, 06:08 PM
Couldn't agree more atm.


I wouldn't even want to work for Habbox with some of the staff.

GommeInc
12-05-2008, 06:09 PM
Oh sweet jesus, a warning for that? Why can't moderators just chill when it comes to thinks like that, you're running a forum based for teens, not for 6 year olds...

You
12-05-2008, 06:14 PM
Silly forum

Galaxay
12-05-2008, 06:17 PM
So much for the new system making infractions alot harder :rolleyes:

Thats why i like a job that i can basically chill in, so i don't get infracted constantly by annoying members of mod/management team :rolleyes:

You
12-05-2008, 06:18 PM
Yer, HxHD Was ace for that :P

Galaxay
12-05-2008, 06:19 PM
Yeh but the AGM annoys people in there (jake) and likes to abuse his powers even on habbo.

Immenseman
12-05-2008, 06:22 PM
Yeh but the AGM annoys people in there (jake) and likes to abuse his powers even on habbo.

Annoys people in there or annoys you? Most people seem to talk to me and be friendly and ask sensible questions about Habbox and I provide them with sensible answers ;).

GommeInc
12-05-2008, 06:23 PM
Annoys people in there or annoys you? Most people seem to talk to me and be friendly and ask sensible questions about Habbox and I provide them with sensible answers ;).
... Most people ask for some loving and they get it :P Only a small minority actually ask you about Habbox, they much prefer you for the cyber...

Immenseman
12-05-2008, 06:24 PM
... Most people ask for some loving and they get it :P Only a small minority actually ask you about Habbox, they much prefer you for the cyber...
I certainly can't blame them for that.. :eusa_whis

Axel
12-05-2008, 06:25 PM
Instead of making stupid posts and complaining about my warning... time for an on topic post.

Stuff like this should not be filtered and if it is not filtered you should not get infractioned for it. It is the responsibility of the mods to bubble wrap every single inch of the forum if they feel the need and if they don't do their job properly by filtering every single 'offensive term', they should suffer and not us. Some people may not know lmao with an f or a term similar to it isn't yet filtered so rather than warning/infractioning us for posting these TERRIBLE words acidentally, the mods should give us a medal for discovering them.

But as I said before, these words shouldn't be infractioned anyway... lmao could be deemed offensive because it has the 'A' word in it, but no one takes it offensively because it's in the wrong context. You can't say lmao with an f to someone and hope they'll take offense because they won't... what I was warned about may be deemed offensive and I probably deserved the warning, but lmao with an f should not be filtered.

Galaxay
12-05-2008, 06:27 PM
I certainly can't blame them for that.. :eusa_whis

Immenseman as a member of the Assistant General Management team you should know that you're not supposed to post off topic, doing so breaks the rules.

Please keep to the subject of the idiotic filter instead of your cyber on habbo hotel. Thanks.

Immenseman
12-05-2008, 06:27 PM
In my personal opinion this word shouldn't be filtered. Mainly because like others have mentioned this term is very commonly used on Habbo and MSN amongst teenagers. Seeing as this forum is aimed at teenagers I personally think it's okay and I don't think very many people would feel insulted with that word being posted around the forum.

Galaxay dear as an ex-moderator I thought you'd be aware that the post ins't classed as off-topic if it relates to a post before it. In this case, mine does. Thanks for providing me with such heartfelt constructive criticism, means a lot that you have the decenty to look out for other members, thanks :)!

Galaxay
12-05-2008, 06:33 PM
np m8

whitebengal
12-05-2008, 06:34 PM
Laugh my *** off LMAO

Pee myself laughing PMSL

Shouldnt that be p*ssing myself laughing, or peeing myself laughing, not Pee myself laughing? 8-)



"even though one of the letters in the word is filtered", so if you can "break" the rules (to an extent) using *** and Piss, then surely you can for Gt*o or Lm*ao

Did you receive a warning for avoiding the filter? because I did....I used the term every tom, REMOVED and harry ....And i get a warning!? I'd understand if i called someone a ****....but i didnt I was using a common phrase.
This forum is getting ridiculous imo

Edited by jesus (Forum Super Moderator): Please do not avoid the language filter.

Paulio
12-05-2008, 06:36 PM
Someone should make a coomplaint to nvrspk4 about jesus because all these unfair infractions seem to becoming from him. I would do it but I arn't very good at getting my point of view accross without swearing. :)


Did you receive a warning for avoiding the filter? because I did....I used the term every tom, REMOVED and harry ....And i get a warning!? I'd understand if i called someone a ****....but i didnt I was using a common phrase.
This forum is getting ridiculous imo

GommeInc
12-05-2008, 06:37 PM
That word was meant to be unfilted (the D word) because it's not offensive nor can it be used offensively, or as offensive as ***** at least :P

Axel
12-05-2008, 06:37 PM
Nah Jesus is a sik ed raver. Leave him be.

Catzsy
12-05-2008, 06:44 PM
Did you receive a warning for avoiding the filter? because I did....I used the term every tom, REMOVED and harry ....And i get a warning!? I'd understand if i called someone a ****....but i didnt I was using a common phrase.
This forum is getting ridiculous imo

Edited by jesus (Forum Super Moderator): Please do not avoid the language filter.

I have to say that this edit is just plain stupid. FGS where is the common sense here? Its a well known saying! Jamie you are getting to like the job too much. Rules should be applied with some sense of fairness and reality.
On topic though I have to state, Paul, that the saying you are referring to always been against the rules but the rush for mod logs these days is well beyond a joke particuarly with the automatic banning. Call somebody an idiot 5 times and you are banned for a week these days. Can you imagine that happening on Habbo or in the real world? I wonder if Capital Pixel punishment will be next on the agenda.

Galaxay
12-05-2008, 06:44 PM
You got infracted again LOOOOL

Jesus truely is power mad

http://www.harris-academy.com/departments/history/Trenches/danielh/daniel1.jpg

whitebengal
12-05-2008, 06:45 PM
Someone should make a coomplaint to nvrspk4 about jesus because all these unfair infractions seem to becoming from him. I would do it but I arn't very good at getting my point of view accross without swearing. :)

LOL I just received yet another infraction from the wonderful jesus.....:rolleyes:

Paulio
12-05-2008, 06:47 PM
Lmao, infractions are the new pokemon cards!

I'll swap you my Hitman for your jesus?!?!

Actually forget it, the jesus isn't that rare :rolleyes:


LOL I just received yet another infraction from the wonderful jesus.....:rolleyes:

GommeInc
12-05-2008, 06:48 PM
Is anyone else thinking jesus should be fired, even Catzsy thinks he's terrible and she's the guru of common sense!

drama
12-05-2008, 06:48 PM
i got a warning for posting that once which i thought was harsh (i voted it's not offensive).

jesus
12-05-2008, 06:50 PM
Is anyone else thinking jesus should be fired, even Catzsy thinks he's terrible and she's the guru of common sense!Fired for infracting rule-breaking posts? Good one!

You
12-05-2008, 06:51 PM
Annoys people in there or annoys you? Most people seem to talk to me and be friendly and ask sensible questions about Habbox and I provide them with sensible answers ;).
I agree.

GommeInc
12-05-2008, 06:51 PM
Fired for infracting rule-breaking posts? Good one!
No, for rudeness, indecency, lack of judgement, lack of common-sense and forgetting you're moderating a teen forum, not a nunnery.

Axel
12-05-2008, 06:52 PM
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The Professor
12-05-2008, 06:53 PM
To my understanding, in the feedback forum the avoiding the filter rule is relaxed somewhat if you're giving examples in a discussion. There is actually a thread called "D 1 C K" in this forum which doesn't appear to have been edited, so I'll point Elkaa in the direction of this thread to clarify that rule. However, the report infractions thread is still the place to report them ;)

As for the original question, I think the infraction was fair because it was clearly insinuating a swear word, and I find it beyond the realms of possibility that people actually think of it as "laughing my flipping bottom off." Lmao suffices in that situation, there isn't much need for the extra f.

Paulio
12-05-2008, 06:54 PM
edit removed

GommeInc
12-05-2008, 06:55 PM
To my understanding, in the feedback forum the avoiding the filter rule is relaxed somewhat if you're giving examples in a discussion. There is actually a thread called "D 1 C K" in this forum which doesn't appear to have been edited, so I'll point Elkaa in the direction of this thread to clarify that rule. However, the report infractions thread is still the place to report them ;)

As for the original question, I think the infraction was fair because it was clearly insinuating a swear word, and I find it beyond the realms of possibility that people actually think of it as "laughing my flipping bottom off." Lmao suffices in that situation, there isn't much need for the extra f.
Well then, you're going against common internet slang and the A word is filtered in lmao so technically you can't say that because it's got swearing, even though it contradicts the "Don't Swear" ruling. LM*AO is a word like ROLFLMAO, it's for effect.

Catzsy
12-05-2008, 06:55 PM
Is anyone else thinking jesus should be fired, even Catzsy thinks he's terrible and she's the guru of common sense!

Jamie is an amazingly hard worker and a very nice person but I feel he is used as a vehicle by others who load the bullets while he fires them and generally does their off white work. Perhaps you should think about that Jamie? He also does need to consider if something actually deserves a warning or infraction before pressing the infraction/warning button.
Quantity - amazing Quality - could do better.

jesus
12-05-2008, 06:55 PM
No, for rudeness, indecency, lack of judgement, lack of common-sense and forgetting you're moderating a teen forum, not a nunnery.If you look at the reported infractions you'll see that they have all been deemed fair by other super moderators, so there's no lack of judgement here. It seems people are just breaking rules so I'll infract them and they can pretend it's unfair. If there's a post which avoids the forum language filter, it gets reported and we have to deal with it. I deal with most of them because they come up when I use the 'New Posts' search so I see them before the other moderators.

Axel
12-05-2008, 06:57 PM
To my understanding, in the feedback forum the avoiding the filter rule is relaxed somewhat if you're giving examples in a discussion. There is actually a thread called "D 1 C K" in this forum which doesn't appear to have been edited, so I'll point Elkaa in the direction of this thread to clarify that rule. However, the report infractions thread is still the place to report them ;)

So I can report the warning I recieved for the post I made saying 'F and then a U right after it' isn't filtered?

GommeInc
12-05-2008, 06:59 PM
If you look at the reported infractions you'll see that they have all been deemed fair by other super moderators, so there's no lack of judgement here. It seems people are just breaking rules so I'll infract them and they can pretend it's unfair. If there's a post which avoids the forum language filter, it gets reported and we have to deal with it. I deal with most of them because they come up when I use the 'New Posts' search so I see them before the other moderators.
So a common phrase is bad? Tom, "Richard" and Harry is a common phrase and isn't rude, and it isn't swearing so it doesn't break rule A2 because it isn't swearing, and the filter is only there to "substitute the letters of swear words" so no, it's not against the rules. It's a case of the filter is filtering a word which isn't a swear word, it's filtering a phrase.

Also, people are posting swear words and possibly unfiltering them themselves because it is allowed in the feedback forum within reason, they are just going through a funny way of doing that.

FURTHERMORE it hasn't been mentioned anywhere that LM*AO is a bad word, because the swearing rules says "and other similar variations which are allowed, even though one of the letters in the word is filtered" so technically you can't pass judgement when the A word shouldn't be filtered (unless Habbox filter that word, which would be one of the silliest things ever to happen on Habbox.com). Because, as you mentioned, you are not in the position to deal with swear words because you're only a moderator, so that abbreviation could be seen as appropriate, because it is appropriate on Habbox.com otherwise it would not of appeared.

Galaxay
12-05-2008, 07:00 PM
You got infracted again LOOOOL

Jesus truely is power mad

http://www.harris-academy.com/departments/history/Trenches/danielh/daniel1.jpg

I just got warned cause Jesus thought that was in my sig LMAO!?!!? how much attention do you pay before taking action jamie seriously, (PM warning btw not proper one :P)

Catzsy
12-05-2008, 07:01 PM
If you look at the reported infractions you'll see that they have all been deemed fair by other super moderators, so there's no lack of judgement here. It seems people are just breaking rules so I'll infract them and they can pretend it's unfair. If there's a post which avoids the forum language filter, it gets reported and we have to deal with it. I deal with most of them because they come up when I use the 'New Posts' search so I see them before the other moderators.

Jamie, there is a general lack of common sense and judgement.
Personally I think Forum Management should check the infraction appeal results. Its not all black and white. Seriously a while ago somebody got an infraction for calling Channel 4 crap. What on earth is the point on infracting posts where the offending word is used in a perfectly logical and non-sexual context and would cause no offence to anybody at all?

Axel
12-05-2008, 07:05 PM
Jamie, there is a general lack of common sense and judgement.
Personally I think Forum Management should check the infraction appeal results. Its not all black and white. Seriously a while ago somebody got an infraction for calling Channel 4 crap. What on earth is the point on infracting posts where the offending word is used in a perfectly logical and non-sexual context and would cause no offence to anybody at all?

Some people might work for Channel 4. :O

jesus
12-05-2008, 07:09 PM
Jamie, there is a general lack of common sense and judgement.
Personally I think Forum Management should check the infraction appeal results. Its not all black and white. Seriously a while ago somebody got an infraction for calling Channel 4 crap. What on earth is the point on infracting posts where the offending word is used in a perfectly logical and non-sexual context and would cause no offence to anybody at all?I'm happy to get a member of management to check them. Super moderators have checked them and signed them off. People are just reporting them for the sake of it now, and getting nowhere because they aren't unfair.

Catzsy
12-05-2008, 07:16 PM
I'm happy to get a member of management to check them. Super moderators have checked them and signed them off. People are just reporting them for the sake of it now, and getting nowhere because they aren't unfair.

What is perceived to be fair is not necessarily fair or appropriate in the circumstances and quite honestly Smods do not like overturning anothers infraction/warning. It is easier not too in case the person infracting originally throws their toys out of the pram. I used to check with a AFM or FM. To follow the rules absolutely with no analysis or logical reasoning behind it is worse in my opinion than being too lenient. You are not actually judged on the quality of your work just the quantity which I feel is a failing in your line management.

The Professor
12-05-2008, 07:17 PM
So I can report the warning I recieved for the post I made saying 'F and then a U right after it' isn't filtered?

Like I say, I've pointed Elkaa this way to clarify the status of that paticular rule in the case of giving examples in this forum, but as far as I know it's allowed. I wouldn't bother reporting it until he posts though. If you used it in any other context, i.e. aiming it at someone, it would be a valid infraction with no doubt.

Kardan
12-05-2008, 07:21 PM
REMOVED isn't filtered. It contains the F word in. Hey, why not make every abbreviation with an f, s, p, c, whatever sweard word, filter it.

Edited by jesus (Forum Super Moderator): Please do not avoid the forum language filter.

Totally agree, I mean when I say: fpsc I can think of something that this forum would find offensive... and there's numerous other things that it could mean which aren't offensive...

Meh, I think abbreviations shouldn't be filtered.

Axel
12-05-2008, 07:22 PM
Well I reported it anyway.

jesus
12-05-2008, 07:24 PM
Totally agree, I mean when I say: fpsc I can think of something that this forum would find offensive... and there's numerous other things that it could mean which aren't offensive...

Meh, I think abbreviations shouldn't be filtered.It's the word that one of the abbreviated letters stands for which is filtered. We are given instructions to warn or infract posts which contain these, so there's no point in moaning at the moderators (that's aimed at everyone who is doing, not you in particular) about the rules being 'unfair' - we are just doing what we are assigned to do.

Kardan
12-05-2008, 07:26 PM
It's the word that one of the abbreviated letters stands for which is filtered. We are given instructions to warn or infract posts which contain these, so there's no point in moaning at the moderators (that's aimed at everyone who is doing, not you in particular) about the rules being 'unfair' - we are just doing what we are assigned to do.

Then shouldn't you remove FSPC because the F could mean ******* or it could mean... Flower.

I'm not moaning at MODs, I'm just saying they can't really warn/infract someone if they don't know 100% what the abb. means...

Sure, remove it because it COULD mean this or that, but giving a warning or infraction is a bit harsh imo...

GommeInc
12-05-2008, 07:26 PM
The rules state the "LMAO, PMSL and other similar variations which are allowed, even though one of the letters in the word is filtered." So if what Axel said wasn't filtered, then it should be left accordingly ;)

Galaxay
12-05-2008, 07:27 PM
Some people get carried away with "what your assigned to do" and become power mad. :rolleyes:

jesus
12-05-2008, 07:28 PM
Then shouldn't you remove FSPC because the F could mean ******* or it could mean... Flower.

I'm not moaning at MODs, I'm just saying they can't really warn/infract someone if they don't know 100% what the abb. means...

Sure, remove it because it COULD mean this or that, but giving a warning or infraction is a bit harsh imo...No because I have no clue what FSPC could possibly mean.

Kardan
12-05-2008, 07:30 PM
No because I have no clue what FSPC could possibly mean.

Which means LM*AO could mean...

Lifting my flower and orange...

:rolleyes: Rules are too harsh... Heh.

jesus
12-05-2008, 07:34 PM
Which means LM*AO could mean...

Lifting my flower and orange...

:rolleyes: Rules are too harsh... Heh.Generally people don't say 'Lifting my flower and orange' when they find things funny. I'm not saying I agree with the fact it's filtered but I'm trying to defend myself against the people that are saying every one of my infractions is unfair.

today
12-05-2008, 07:35 PM
Someone should make a coomplaint to nvrspk4 about jesus because all these unfair infractions seem to becoming from him. I would do it but I arn't very good at getting my point of view accross without swearing. :)
LOL paul.

You and me both!

msb.
12-05-2008, 07:36 PM
No because I have no clue what FSPC could possibly mean.
Jesus if they carry on just remember I am always here for you, send an pm I can give advice on how to ignore them :)


tbh I miss ---mad---

Kardan
12-05-2008, 07:36 PM
Generally people don't say 'Lifting my flower and orange' when they find things funny. I'm not saying I agree with the fact it's filtered but I'm trying to defend myself against the people that are saying every one of my infractions is unfair.

If I find things funny I wouldn't say 'Lifting my flower and orange', but incase a flower and orange thread happened to pop along to the forum and I put LM*AO - I'd get infracted which is pretty stupid...

(I know I'm using a stupid example, but it gets the point across that abbrevs. have more than one meaning...)

Hope management review it or something.

msb.
12-05-2008, 07:37 PM
If I find things funny I wouldn't say 'Lifting my flower and orange', but incase a flower and orange thread happened to pop along to the forum and I put LM*AO - I'd get infracted which is pretty stupid...

(I know I'm using a stupid example, but it gets the point across that abbrevs. have more than one meaning...)

Hope management review it or something.
Take this personal please.

It has nothing to do with me nor you.

Galaxay
12-05-2008, 07:37 PM
REMOVED

At this thread.

Edited by jesus (Forum Super Moderator): Please do not avoid the filter.

today
12-05-2008, 07:39 PM
Fired for infracting rule-breaking posts? Good one!

w.e dude.


Jamie is an amazingly hard worker and a very nice person but I feel he is used as a vehicle by others who load the bullets while he fires them and generally does their off white work. Perhaps you should think about that Jamie? He also does need to consider if something actually deserves a warning or infraction before pressing the infraction/warning button.
Quantity - amazing Quality - could do better.
Yhh

REMOVED

At this thread.
They wont get that man!

msb.
12-05-2008, 07:39 PM
REMOVED

At this thread.
and I thought you was mature. :rolleyes:

Catzsy
12-05-2008, 07:39 PM
Generally people don't say 'Lifting my flower and orange' when they find things funny. I'm not saying I agree with the fact it's filtered but I'm trying to defend myself against the people that are saying every one of my infractions is unfair.

Don't think they are saying that at all. I think they are saying that overall you are overenthusiastic when doing so on occasions. Look back at this thread. They are mostly reaction infractions - not really much actual rule breaking in any substantial way going on.

Galaxay
12-05-2008, 07:40 PM
and I thought you was mature. :rolleyes:

You thought wrong blud.

today
12-05-2008, 07:41 PM
The thing is, its clear people dont want Jesus as a mod anymore, surly HxF MGMT can see this, can thy not act on this, Members come first specially when this moderator seems to abuse and overuse the ifraction button.

Galaxay
12-05-2008, 07:44 PM
and I thought you was mature. :rolleyes:

Thats rli offensive 2 me its rude!! reported

drama
12-05-2008, 08:21 PM
Jesus if they carry on just remember I am always here for you, send an pm I can give advice on how to ignore them :)


tbh I miss ---mad---

Lifting-My-Flower -And-Orange

bo$$
12-05-2008, 08:28 PM
lol..
just say lmao instead of *****..
no biggy.
as for what gomme said about ay es es being unfiltered I somewhat agree to that since like.. piss is unfiltered and *****

Galaxay
12-05-2008, 08:54 PM
*** is unfiltered?

OR NOT!?!!!!?!?!??!

Penis is vagina is but as aint?

bo$$
12-05-2008, 08:56 PM
*** is unfiltered?

OR NOT!?!!!!?!?!??!

Penis is vagina is but as aint?

That's because they are the actual terms.. *** isn't the real term. Gluteus maximus is

Galaxay
12-05-2008, 09:00 PM
****. ?

msb.
12-05-2008, 09:03 PM
You thought wrong blud.


Thats rli offensive 2 me its rude!! reported

Why post twice, quoting me on the same quote TWICE lol.
If you feel the need to report me, please do as I can say the management is great on here and if you respect it, they respect you.



Lifting-My-Flower -And-Orange
I got it the first time but it isn't funny, wait re-read it LOL!!!!!!!!!
It is sort of funny but the spam section ruined it with "user" making pictures of oranges :rolleyes:

jesus
12-05-2008, 09:03 PM
It's filtered now, so if you type it you are avoiding the filter.

Kardan
12-05-2008, 09:04 PM
Why post twice, quoting me on the same quote TWICE lol.
If you feel the need to report me, please do as I can say the management is great on here and if you respect it, they respect you.



I got it the first time but it isn't funny, wait re-read it LOL!!!!!!!!!
It is sort of funny but the spam section ruined it with "user" making pictures of oranges :rolleyes:

I'm not really bothered that I ruined it considering I was the one that came up with it :rolleyes:

msb.
12-05-2008, 09:05 PM
I'm not really bothered that I ruined it considering I was the one that came up with it :rolleyes:
Then your really laughing at your own joke...

Think about it...

Kardan
12-05-2008, 09:06 PM
Then your really laughing at your own joke...

Think about it...

Where did I laugh ;)

I'm trying to prove a point :)

Paulio
12-05-2008, 09:06 PM
CANTTTTTTTT WE AWL JUST GET ALONGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

msb.
12-05-2008, 09:08 PM
Where did I laugh ;)

I'm trying to prove a point :)
Explain please how posting oranges is proving a point

Kardan
12-05-2008, 09:10 PM
Explain please how posting oranges is proving a point

That we get warned/infractioned for posting abbreviations when they can easily have more than one meaning, and unless it's totally obvious what the abbrev. means and there's no doubt then sure, it's fair... But most of the time it's not, and the rules means changing...

So when I post LMFAO, I mean Lifting My Flower and Orange :)

jesus
12-05-2008, 09:11 PM
It's filtered now so stop avoiding it.

Galaxay
12-05-2008, 09:13 PM
So when I post LMFAO, I mean Lifting My Flower and Orange :)

It's not filtered, and i got infracted for posting Lifting my flower and orange!?!? WTH! L!OL!L

whitebengal
12-05-2008, 09:14 PM
It's not filtered, and i got infracted for posting Lifting my flower and orange!?!? WTH! L!OL!L

Please tell me you're joking? LOL :eusa_wall:rolleyes::rolleyes:

msb.
12-05-2008, 09:22 PM
That we get warned/infractioned for posting abbreviations when they can easily have more than one meaning, and unless it's totally obvious what the abbrev. means and there's no doubt then sure, it's fair... But most of the time it's not, and the rules means changing...

So when I post LMFAO, I mean Lifting My Flower and Orange :)
And that isn't funny still.. Your turning someone's serious problem and trying to make it Forum Funniest Moment 2008.

Kardan
12-05-2008, 09:31 PM
And that isn't funny still.. Your turning someone's serious problem and trying to make it Forum Funniest Moment 2008.

How am I trying to make it funny? Where did I even post saying I was trying to make it funny?

I'm showing a point that we shouldn't be infracted for something when we don't even mean to say it aand that abbrevs. have different meanings...

Meh, I just won't bother with this...

Galaxay
12-05-2008, 09:33 PM
Dw about msb. he just thinks he's great as he quit habbo for 6 days.

today
12-05-2008, 09:35 PM
Dw about msb. he just thinks he's great as he quit habbo for 6 days.
Lol amen to that.

Adds to ignore list.

msb.
12-05-2008, 09:35 PM
How am I trying to make it funny? Where did I even post saying I was trying to make it funny?

I'm showing a point that we shouldn't be infracted for something when we don't even mean to say it aand that abbrevs. have different meanings...

Meh, I just won't bother with this...
Wait, your not making sense I am making a point for something that we don't even mean to say it? Then the problem is slang, if you use and others take it in an offensive way, Why continue to use it?


Dw about msb. he just thinks he's great as he quit habbo for 6 days.
6.5 actually ;)

GommeInc
12-05-2008, 09:39 PM
msb., no one likes a bum kisser... If you're trying to higher the standards then you've failed, you're as low as the rest of us :D

Paulio
12-05-2008, 09:41 PM
AHEM :P


msb., no one likes a bum kisser... If you're trying to higher the standards then you've failed, you're as low as the rest of us :D

I still think the rule should be got rid of, it's crap.

msb.
12-05-2008, 09:43 PM
msb., no one likes a bum kisser... If you're trying to higher the standards then you've failed, you're as low as the rest of us :D


AHEM :P



I still think the rule should be got rid of, it's crap.

LOL, thanks from the forum council LOL!

today
12-05-2008, 09:44 PM
Wait, your not making sense I am making a point for something that we don't even mean to say it? Then the problem is slang, if you use and others take it in an offensive way, Why continue to use it?


6.5 actually ;)
Thats actually sad.


LOL, thanks from the forum council LOL!
Which is not Habbox Staff, neither does anyone care about it (Sorry babe!)

GommeInc
12-05-2008, 09:45 PM
The council is there to moan and groan... Plus, don't you care about us KL!!? :(

msb.
12-05-2008, 09:46 PM
Thats actually sad.

Tell me about it

Which is not Habbox Staff, neither does anyone care about it (Sorry babe!)
Tell me about it... + ain't it habbox forum staff? AND LOL no1 cares about it?
gomme... what do you have to say about it?

On topic: When will the thread get closed?

nvrspk4
12-05-2008, 09:49 PM
I only read two pages of this thread, then I decided I didn't want to read 11 more pages about the letter "f". I *believe* it was because of the ?. Lm*ao has been filtered for a while, however when placed directly next to a question mark it becomes unfiltered. The same has happened with other swearwords. As it seems that the mistake was genuine, I will reverse the warning.

I'll see what can be done about the question mark problem. And the users should not be taking advantage of this in an attempt to avoid the filter and pretend that it was a mistake.

There is still debate that could happen, as to why f should be allowed in the word without filtering it. However I don't really see a reason for it (and if you want to place emphasis, put a simple * between the a and the o. That seems harmless to me, you eliminate the entire swearword, those who know it know what you mean, and those who don't don't have to be exposed to it, which is the point of filtering the entire swearword.

today
12-05-2008, 09:50 PM
The council is there to moan and groan... Plus, don't you care about us KL!!? :(
Sos. i dont </3


Tell me about it... + ain't it habbox forum staff? AND LOL no1 cares about it?
gomme... what do you have to say about it?

On topic: When will the thread get closed?
No its not Staff at all. :rolleyes:


WOTWOT???NOTHIN TO SEE HERE

FREAK!

Edited By nvrspk4: SHH THAT NEVER HAPPENED! :P

GommeInc
12-05-2008, 09:50 PM
The Forum Council are member elected forum members who are there to think up, find out and research ideas for Habbox. We're not staff, just there to give a second opinion, or think up some ;)

So don't play this council card, it won't work :rolleyes:


WOT WOT, IN THE BUTT?
YAY! Give me your american babies in return for some of my british babies!!! <3

Edited By nvrspk4 (Assistnat General Manager): *ABUSES POWERS*. Yeah I sorta have to remove that sorry!

msb.
12-05-2008, 09:52 PM
The Forum Council are member elected forum members who are there to think up, find out and research ideas for Habbox. We're not staff, just there to give a second opinion, or think up some ;)

So don't play this council card, it won't work :rolleyes:
Fine then I blame the person running the council which is you...

Your meant to be friendly and be polite...
A 2 the M 2 the r, you ain't

Galaxay
12-05-2008, 09:52 PM
i found a way around yo filta nvr dont test it haha :P

Scott 1 - 0 HxF Management s0z4rd DONT INFRACT ME PLS JESUS!!!!!

GommeInc
12-05-2008, 09:52 PM
I don't run the council... I write the reports. Sierk and MAD run the council ;)

today
12-05-2008, 09:53 PM
Fine then I blame the person running the council which is you...

Your meant to be friendly and be polite...
A 2 the M 2 the r, you ain't
You'll find Sierk & MAD run the council. :rolleyes:

msb.
12-05-2008, 09:54 PM
I don't run the council... I write the reports. Sierk and MAD run the council ;)
If you break the rules etc... and don't live upto expectations what does the "apprentice say"????

whitebengal
12-05-2008, 09:54 PM
Sos. i dont </3


No its not Staff at all. :rolleyes:



FREAK!

Uh oh......dun dun dunnnnnnnn....What time do you think you'll receive an infraction for that? :rolleyes:

today
12-05-2008, 09:55 PM
If you break the rules etc... and don't live upto expectations what does the "apprentice say"????

Babe, its a forum not a show. ;)

GommeInc
12-05-2008, 09:55 PM
If you break the rules etc... and don't live upto expectations what does the "apprentice say"????
I broke the rules? I'm sorry, but I don't it is against the rules to offend oneself. I said you're as bad as us, meaning I'm as bad as you and everyone else is as bad as me (vague approach on things). So no...

Galaxay
12-05-2008, 09:55 PM
Jesus is usually on the ball if its an infraction, so should have received by now, unless hes in bed. Urgh why did i even make that assumption, ofc hes not hes just on another section of the forum.

today
12-05-2008, 09:56 PM
I broke the rules? I'm sorry, but I don't it is against the rules to offend oneself. I said you're as bad as us, meaning I'm as bad as you and everyone else is as bad as me (vague approach on things). So no...
One thing with Gommie is that he can name call you and get away with it as well, he plays on words ;)

msb.
12-05-2008, 09:56 PM
Babe, its a forum not a show. ;)
The answer was



YOUR FIRED

that was the answer ^^^

today
12-05-2008, 09:57 PM
The answer was



YOUR FIRED

that was the answer ^^^

You can only be fired if you work for something. As the council is not a "official" department neither staff you cant really be fired.

Galaxay
12-05-2008, 09:57 PM
Gomme gets threatened of bans lol so he cant get away that esaily :P

today
12-05-2008, 09:59 PM
Gomme gets threatened of bans lol so he cant get away that esaily :P
But if he ever got one then the forum wouldnt be inblance between him and sexy people..

msb.
12-05-2008, 09:59 PM
You can only be fired if you work for something. As the council is not a "official" department neither staff you cant really be fired.
Then out of the council... My point is gomme... I am sure council doesn't mean you can be rude to others... if you continue I will tell ---mad--- as really I am sick of your behaviour, I seen you do it to others...

You was okay but then started to switch when the whole rep system changed.

today
12-05-2008, 10:00 PM
Then out of the council... My point is gomme... I am sure council doesn't mean you can be rude to others... if you continue I will tell ---mad--- as really I am sick of your behaviour, I seen you do it to others...

You was okay but then started to switch when the whole rep system changed.
MAD is away babe, try NVR.

GommeInc
12-05-2008, 10:01 PM
I've changed :S I've always been a bit of a cow :P Also, I don't see how that warrants being kicked out of the council, when it's not even been given a warning nor is it rude... Well it is, but to everyone including myself :P

today
12-05-2008, 10:03 PM
I've changed :S I've always been a bit of a cow :P Also, I don't see how that warrants being kicked out of the council, when it's not even been given a warning nor is it rude... Well it is, but to everyone including myself :P
And im sure it wouldnt kill him if he got kicked out either..

considering how much the council can change Habbox.

msb.
12-05-2008, 10:14 PM
I've changed :S I've always been a bit of a cow :P Also, I don't see how that warrants being kicked out of the council, when it's not even been given a warning nor is it rude... Well it is, but to everyone including myself :P
I never said kicked, I said breaking rules etc... on this forum could result in being fired... *MAYBE*
I don't choose...


End off the day... you don't see yet but maybe in future you will notice.

GommeInc
12-05-2008, 10:20 PM
Being kicked out, fired or "out" of the council mean the same thing, in context.

msb.
12-05-2008, 10:27 PM
Being kicked out, fired or "out" of the council mean the same thing, in context.
Yes but I am saying that you need to stick to the rules to do your role to your best ability, correct?

today
12-05-2008, 10:29 PM
Yes but I am saying that you need to stick to the rules to do your role to your best ability, correct?
What rules? Im sure he doesnt need to follow the "staff" rules. And he follows the forum rules ;]

GommeInc
12-05-2008, 10:29 PM
Doesn't everyone? And I don't believe I broke any rules :) The council doesn;t have staff rules, or any rules regarding forum behaviour, only rules telling us not to post information regarding privacy of council ideas and between management discussions. Ideas themselves which members have had a strong input in will of course be told to members if they request to know, it's only polite.

Axel
13-05-2008, 07:15 AM
Lifting my flower and orange at this thread.

nvrspk4
13-05-2008, 07:24 AM
Lifting my flower and orange at this thread.

Are you going to make me filter flower? ;)

GommeInc
13-05-2008, 11:22 AM
I thought ***** was unfiltered? Filter flower anyway, no-one knows what one is or needs to talk about flowers, they haven't on here before so... Yeah :P

:O Nvrspk you re-filtered the flower abbreviation?

Galaxay
13-05-2008, 02:41 PM
Lifting my flower and orange at this thread.

I guess jesus is off, what are the chances of him actually going offline :S

But i got an infraction for saying that and you never? how ironic. :rolleyes:


Are you going to make me filter flower? ;)

You could use various words instead of flower :P

Filter, flask, fly, floppy, and so on :p

Niko Bellic
13-05-2008, 02:46 PM
How about..

"I had a nvrspk4 last night and out came was sierk juice."

Galaxay
13-05-2008, 02:51 PM
Also if you cant abbreviate swearing why has Qylo's sig had it for ages

http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=30515

Kardan
13-05-2008, 03:01 PM
I got a warning for saying the Lifting My Flower and Orange abbrev. even though I was clearly talking about Lifting My Flower and Orange :rolleyes:

I mean you can't ***** with your hands can you ;)

Hitman
13-05-2008, 03:31 PM
All this about "lifting my flower and orange", everybody knows what lmao with the f stands for and they know it's not some other variation of that like "laugh my flying annoying oranges".

The infraction has now been reversed, because the filter didn't pick it up due to a question mark at the end of the word... not a fault on my behalf or his. ;)

jesus
13-05-2008, 04:33 PM
The ones that were infracted for it made the filtered letters extremely stood-out from the rest of the text. It seems you are all trying to play with the rules here but unfortunately for you it's a punishable offense.

msb.
13-05-2008, 04:36 PM
The message here is, don't play with broken toys.

Bomb-Head
13-05-2008, 05:22 PM
Did you receive a warning for avoiding the filter? because I did....I used the term every tom, REMOVED and harry ....And i get a warning!? I'd understand if i called someone a ****....but i didnt I was using a common phrase.
This forum is getting ridiculous imo

Edited by jesus (Forum Super Moderator): Please do not avoid the language filter.

That's ridiculous :O The removed word is a common nickname given to people called Richard?

I would hope this gets reversed?

msb.
13-05-2008, 05:24 PM
That's ridiculous :O The removed word is a common nickname given to people called Richard?

I would hope this gets reversed?
Sorry but proof that whitebeng... said was correct?

Paulio
13-05-2008, 05:26 PM
Couldn't agree more. It's exactly the same with lmao with an f. It's used on a daily basis by most teens.


That's ridiculous :O The removed word is a common nickname given to people called Richard?

I would hope this gets reversed?

Galaxay
13-05-2008, 05:26 PM
Msb quit sucking up to staff.

David Jesus is just finding out any reason he can to warn/infract users.

msb.
13-05-2008, 05:28 PM
Msb quit sucking up to staff.

David Jesus is just finding out any reason he can to warn/infract users.
Sorry I don't suck up...

Galaxay I am big fan of you.

Galaxay
13-05-2008, 05:28 PM
That sounded gay.

Paulio
13-05-2008, 05:30 PM
Even if he is your mate, what's happening is wrong. You're the only none staff member who has agreed with him. One Asst General, a few Moderators and one Dept Manager has agreed with us so someting has to be done.


msb??? it is msb. If you want to be like that, I will :)

Sucking up to staff I think you find that me and him go way back...
Not very good past, better future...

msb.
13-05-2008, 05:30 PM
That sounded gay.
the bit in bold?

Bomb-Head
13-05-2008, 05:33 PM
Couldn't agree more. It's exactly the same with lmao with an f. It's used on a daily basis by most teens.

Yeah I do see your point here - maybe General Management will look into the rule because at the end of the day this is a teen forum not a 'nunnery' as someone has said previously :P


Msb quit sucking up to staff.

David Jesus is just finding out any reason he can to warn/infract users.

Maybe the still use number of infractions issued in the Moderator Reports then.

Galaxay
13-05-2008, 05:41 PM
IIRC they do, but he has over the required limit so..

The Professor
13-05-2008, 06:09 PM
There is no required limit. I wish people would drop that argument, its so old and completely invalid.

Anyway, I thought I might post to clarify what the rule on filter avoidance in examples is. In threads like this, that discuss the filter and can only really be discussed by avoiding the filter to do so, it is perfectly fine to avoid the filter as long as it isn't aimed at someone else. So, for example you could say:


I think a'ss should be unfiltered because I often use it as a term for pillow.

But you can't use threads like these as an excuse to call someone one. However, don't take the piss with this rule, if you get carried away and keep avoiding the filter for the sake of it, you'll probably be infracted.

Fin.

GommeInc
13-05-2008, 06:14 PM
I think if it's a popular phrase it shouldn't be filtered... Hopefully whitebengals infraction is removed, because as far as I am aware the D word isn't swearing (and that's the opinion of many people, it's even defined as an obscenity!), which I believe what the filter is for, to filter out swear words:

"A2. Don't swear - It really is as simple as it sounds. The forum filter will substitute the letters of swear words with *"

The D word is an obscenity, which means a word that is offensive to certain standards, and considering the standards of Habbox Forum seem to be quite low, with the words piss and ***** considered acceptable, you would think the D word would be acceptable too.

MissAlice
13-05-2008, 06:21 PM
I am actually quite shocked at the D word causing such a stir, and let me show you why!

The phrase "Tom, D and Harry" is a placeholder for multiple unspecified people; "Tom, D or Harry" plays the same role for one unspecified person. The phrase most commonly occurs as "every Tom, D and Harry", meaning everyone, and "any Tom, D or Harry", meaning anyone. The masculine names in these phrase do not in themselves imply exclusion of females, but use of either version when the context implies necessarily being female − for example, "Your mother could be any Tom D or Harry" − would normally be seen as careless or ironic.

Tom, D and Harry (1941 film)

Tom, D, and Harry are the names of three mountain peaks in the Cascade Range in Oregon, U.S.A.

The phrase is also used by english speaking medical students in memorizing the order of an artery, and a nerve, and the three tendons of the flexor retinaculum in the lower leg.

I could go on and on, but won't ;)

Catzsy
13-05-2008, 07:01 PM
I am actually quite shocked at the D word causing such a stir, and let me show you why!

The phrase "Tom, D and Harry" is a placeholder for multiple unspecified people; "Tom, D or Harry" plays the same role for one unspecified person. The phrase most commonly occurs as "every Tom, D and Harry", meaning everyone, and "any Tom, D or Harry", meaning anyone. The masculine names in these phrase do not in themselves imply exclusion of females, but use of either version when the context implies necessarily being female − for example, "Your mother could be any Tom D or Harry" − would normally be seen as careless or ironic.

Tom, D and Harry (1941 film)

Tom, D, and Harry are the names of three mountain peaks in the Cascade Range in Oregon, U.S.A.

The phrase is also used by english speaking medical students in memorizing the order of an artery, and a nerve, and the three tendons of the flexor retinaculum in the lower leg.

I could go on and on, but won't ;)


Exactly. :)

The problem is the post should be read in context of what it is actually saying
and only edited and enforced when it is actually offensive.

This is getting beyond a joke and tbh some of the mods are looking quite silly which is a real shame.

Also if you say something extremely offensive, racist, or avoid the filter using extremely bad swear words you get the same 'punishment' as when you call somebody an idiot. :S This is hardly likely to motivate any member to behave more - they are more likely to use more offensive terms the next time they
get fed up with somebody.

I personally think that complaints should be considered valid unless proved otherwise. Complaints are used as a basis as evaluation for customer service worldwide. It is too simplistic to say that it is people out to make trouble as this portrays the misconception that Habbox feels they are perfect and its the members that are out of step.

msb.
13-05-2008, 07:55 PM
I am actually quite shocked at the D word causing such a stir, and let me show you why!

The phrase "Tom, D and Harry" is a placeholder for multiple unspecified people; "Tom, D or Harry" plays the same role for one unspecified person. The phrase most commonly occurs as "every Tom, D and Harry", meaning everyone, and "any Tom, D or Harry", meaning anyone. The masculine names in these phrase do not in themselves imply exclusion of females, but use of either version when the context implies necessarily being female − for example, "Your mother could be any Tom D or Harry" − would normally be seen as careless or ironic.

Tom, D and Harry (1941 film)

Tom, D, and Harry are the names of three mountain peaks in the Cascade Range in Oregon, U.S.A.

The phrase is also used by english speaking medical students in memorizing the order of an artery, and a nerve, and the three tendons of the flexor retinaculum in the lower leg.

I could go on and on, but won't ;)

gosh I was gonna say that

Paulio
13-05-2008, 08:10 PM
For the record, the infraction has been removed by Hitman. Thanks for that :)

I still think it's wrong that whitebengal got an infractionf r using the term "Every Tom, .... & Harry" though. Has anything been done about that yet whitebengal?

The Professor
13-05-2008, 08:35 PM
For the record, the infraction has been removed by Hitman. Thanks for that :)

I still think it's wrong that whitebengal got an infractionf r using the term "Every Tom, .... & Harry" though. Has anything been done about that yet whitebengal?

Individual infractions are not discussed on the forum, and its also considered personal information which isn't disclosed publically. If you really want to know, ask him via PM.

msb.
13-05-2008, 08:55 PM
Individual infractions are not discussed on the forum, and its also considered personal information which isn't disclosed publically. If you really want to know, ask him via PM.
why is the forum private again :S

whitebengal
13-05-2008, 09:07 PM
I am actually quite shocked at the D word causing such a stir, and let me show you why!

The phrase "Tom, D and Harry" is a placeholder for multiple unspecified people; "Tom, D or Harry" plays the same role for one unspecified person. The phrase most commonly occurs as "every Tom, D and Harry", meaning everyone, and "any Tom, D or Harry", meaning anyone. The masculine names in these phrase do not in themselves imply exclusion of females, but use of either version when the context implies necessarily being female − for example, "Your mother could be any Tom D or Harry" − would normally be seen as careless or ironic.

Tom, D and Harry (1941 film)

Tom, D, and Harry are the names of three mountain peaks in the Cascade Range in Oregon, U.S.A.

The phrase is also used by english speaking medical students in memorizing the order of an artery, and a nerve, and the three tendons of the flexor retinaculum in the lower leg.

I could go on and on, but won't ;)

Finally someone who is intelligent! - I couldn't have put it better myself :eusa_clap

msb.
13-05-2008, 09:09 PM
Finally someone who is intelligent! - I couldn't have put it better myself :eusa_clap
Like I said, I was going to say that...

Seriously this topic, I am sure like 4 threads have been made on it :S

Hitman
14-05-2008, 03:48 PM
I see everybodys point with unfiltering the D word, but some not so mature users will use it to insult or be rude, so I suppose that's the main reason why it isn't unfiltered.

Catzsy
14-05-2008, 03:55 PM
I see everybodys point with unfiltering the D word, but some not so mature users will use it to insult or be rude, so I suppose that's the main reason why it isn't unfiltered.

So again the majority of sensible members suffer for the immature minority. That's what mod's are for and it seriously is a very mild insult or slighty adult term even when used in the wrong context. Also if somebody is called a **** head then there is a warning for insulting somebody. You might as well filter idiot too. It's about time there was a bit more flexibility and realisation that the filter shouldn't really be used for minor words like this. I am all for the filter used to block words that can only every be described as offensive or too adult for the forum. In the real world people would laugh if they were told off for saying this. I am sure nobody does.

Galaxay
14-05-2008, 04:14 PM
Mod's dont even get post reports now, lmao.

The Professor
14-05-2008, 06:07 PM
Mod's dont even get post reports now, lmao.

If I were you I'd refrain from posting such assumptions unless you know the facts. I'm not sure where you've got that from, mods have full access to post reports.

msb.
14-05-2008, 06:12 PM
So again the majority of sensible members suffer for the immature minority. That's what mod's are for and it seriously is a very mild insult or slighty adult term even when used in the wrong context. Also if somebody is called a **** head then there is a warning for insulting somebody. You might as well filter idiot too. It's about time there was a bit more flexibility and realisation that the filter shouldn't really be used for minor words like this. I am all for the filter used to block words that can only every be described as offensive or too adult for the forum. In the real world people would laugh if they were told off for saying this. I am sure nobody does.
sorry buts its life... 1 time sum1 messed around in my school ages ago... *pmsl had to edit, I put, I by mistake* LOL!!!!!!!
sum1 did sumthing to sum1 elses bag... disgusting... and our WHOLE YEAR had to stay in EVERY DINNER time... until sum1 owns up, no1 did except 1 person who had to LIE but teacher goes no, I want the truth in the end, headteacher gave up...

Galaxay
14-05-2008, 07:08 PM
If I were you I'd refrain from posting such assumptions unless you know the facts. I'm not sure where you've got that from, mods have full access to post reports.

Due to the fact off all mod's emails being deleted for "security purposes" then they shalnt get post reports.

As a few mods have also said.

The Professor
14-05-2008, 08:09 PM
Due to the fact off all mod's emails being deleted for "security purposes" then they shalnt get post reports.

As a few mods have also said.


Mods have full access to post reports.

Its a fact, sorry.

Galaxay
14-05-2008, 09:06 PM
Mod's i've spoke to say otherwise. :)

today
14-05-2008, 09:24 PM
Mod's i've spoke to say otherwise. :)
They have a account "Moderator" which reports all posts or something now.

Galaxay
14-05-2008, 09:35 PM
Moderator has always been there along with the account called "post_reports" lol.

today
14-05-2008, 09:39 PM
Moderator has always been there along with the account called "post_reports" lol.
Yes however its now on all forums, it never used to be.

sierk
15-05-2008, 08:27 AM
We have decided that everything referring to the f-word is unacceptable. It is very easy to get around using it, as there are many other expressions that you can use that don't contain this word.
The fact that many people in England use this word in every two sentences they speak doesn't mean we should allow it on this forum (which is still aimed at teenagers).
As far as I know the word lmao with an f in it is filtered, so it shouldn't cause much trouble, even for the people who don't know we don't allow it.

Galaxay
15-05-2008, 08:47 AM
What about the D word then sierk?

buttons
15-05-2008, 08:54 AM
We have decided that everything referring to the f-word is unacceptable. It is very easy to get around using it, as there are many other expressions that you can use that don't contain this word.
The fact that many people in England use this word in every two sentences they speak doesn't mean we should allow it on this forum (which is still aimed at teenagers).
As far as I know the word lmao with an f in it is filtered, so it shouldn't cause much trouble, even for the people who don't know we don't allow it.
i totally agree, it's not necessary to have to use the f word, lmao & lmao+f mean the same thing, it just has a swear word added into it that isn't even needed in it....i dno. & the same with the D word really, your allowed to use the word "penis" which is the same thing (other than the fact it could be a name) so why do you need to have substitutes of these words, when there perfectly fine the way they are? :S

Galaxay
15-05-2008, 09:02 AM
Tom Penis and Harry, sounds like a well know phrase doesnt it jennifer.

FlyingJesus
15-05-2008, 09:07 AM
I HATE MODS AND THE FILTER CORRUPT JAMIE DIE THE FORUM IS CORRUPT I LOVE 2004 ITS JAMIES FAULT CORRUPT HES CORRUPT YOURE ALL CORRUPT UNLESS I LIKE YOU LOLOLOLOL I HATE MODS JAMIE WORDFILTER INFRACTION ALL THE TIME CORRUPT. Ahem.


Tom Penis and Harry, sounds like a well know phrase doesnt it jennifer.

lol sounds like KKK

Galaxay
15-05-2008, 09:17 AM
I HATE MODS AND THE FILTER CORRUPT JAMIE DIE THE FORUM IS CORRUPT I LOVE 2004 ITS JAMIES FAULT CORRUPT HES CORRUPT YOURE ALL CORRUPT UNLESS I LIKE YOU LOLOLOLOL I HATE MODS JAMIE WORDFILTER INFRACTION ALL THE TIME CORRUPT. Ahem.



lol sounds like KKK

How many corrupts are in there? :P Yeh 04 was much better, non power mad mods/smods and management didnt make idiotic decisions constantly.

FlyingJesus
15-05-2008, 09:28 AM
I find much hilarious irony in the fact that I was actually satirising that opinion haha

Rafiki
15-05-2008, 12:20 PM
The forum aint offiacle though so y get stricter on the forum =s

Galaxay
15-05-2008, 01:46 PM
Its part of the habbox "companys" if you wish.

FlyingJesus
15-05-2008, 01:56 PM
Clearly they wish no such thing lol

wixard
27-02-2014, 02:42 PM
Tom Penis and Harry, sounds like a well know phrase doesnt it jennifer.

cute!

Edited by e5 (Forum Moderator) - Please do not bump old threads, thanks!

Kardan
27-02-2014, 02:44 PM
Might as well make this thread relevant,

Can we get *REMOVED* unfiltered?

Edited by e5 (Forum Moderator) - Please do not avoid the forum filter, thanks.

buttons
27-02-2014, 02:55 PM
cute!
LMFAO omg what a cheeky bobba he was


i totally agree, it's not necessary to have to use the f word, lmao & lmao+f mean the same thing, it just has a swear word added into it that isn't even needed in it....i dno. & the same with the D word really, your allowed to use the word "penis" which is the same thing (other than the fact it could be a name) so why do you need to have substitutes of these words, when there perfectly fine the way they are?
you're* they're*
o jeez just did what i said people shouldn't by saying lmFao..

- - - Updated - - -


I got a warning for saying the Lifting My Flower and Orange abbrev. even though I was clearly talking about Lifting My Flower and Orange :rolleyes:

I mean you can't ***** with your hands can you ;)
this sounds exactly like somethin ud do/say today lmfao some things never change

Kardan
27-02-2014, 05:49 PM
LMFAO omg what a cheeky bobba he was


you're* they're*
o jeez just did what i said people shouldn't by saying lmFao..

- - - Updated - - -


this sounds exactly like somethin ud do/say today lmfao some things never change

I know, I was reading through this thread and thought 'I've not changed'. They did give out warnings/infractions though for actually posting a picture with flowers and oranges saying 'Lifting my flower and orange', which was a bit stupid really :P

Yawn
27-02-2014, 05:53 PM
**** (shut the flip up)
lmfao
**** (get the frick out)

:hmm:
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