View Full Version : Respect Your Life Not A Knife!
Experting
26-05-2008, 06:15 PM
Today i decided to make a group on Habbo UK about Respect Your Life Not a Knife It has loads of handy facts and stuff for you to look at its new and im still working on it i just wanted to see what people think of it and to see if you will join the group =]
Click Here To Visit The Group Page (http://www.habbo.co.uk/groups/respectyourlife)
I also need some little facts about knife crime in the UK so feel free to post below or in the group guestbook.
Also i need comments of what you think of the group and what i can improve etc.
Please Join The Group!
Closed by jesus (Forum Super Moderator) due to a few selfish users making it go off topic and into an arguement.
shizzle
26-05-2008, 06:31 PM
Like a group on net will help in real life.
i am sure guns are more in the world for crime than knives?
shizzle
26-05-2008, 06:43 PM
there still is stabbing, but a group on net wouldn't help inrl.
William93
26-05-2008, 06:46 PM
Like a group on net will help in real life.
With a **** attitude like that, you might as well think a place like ChildLine won't help as well.
Spiffing
26-05-2008, 06:50 PM
This guy in my class got excluded for threatening someone in school with a knife. Who needs a weapon when you have Vodka:rolleyes:
Nice Group♥
there still is stabbing, but a group on net wouldn't help inrl.
Only Kyle would post the same thing twice but re phrased differently. Is this Kyle?
shizzle
26-05-2008, 06:57 PM
With a **** attitude like that, you might as well think a place like ChildLine won't help as well.
Attitude? This is the Internet and it will be known on Habbo hotel mainly, so how will it help in real life, tell me;)
Attitude? This is the Internet and it will be known on Habbo hotel mainly, so how will it help in real life, tell me;)
At least he's making an effort... go piss on someone else's fire.
Experting
26-05-2008, 07:04 PM
Thanks for some of the nice comments. How can i improve it ?
Thanks for some of the nice comments. How can i improve it ?
by
making an mc
Need help?
shizzle
26-05-2008, 07:15 PM
Thanks for some of the nice comments. How can i improve it ?
To improve it, don't just make it on Habbo, make a fansite a site dedicated for it then it will be known more.
RyanDOT
26-05-2008, 07:22 PM
Thanks for some of the nice comments. How can i improve it ?
By deleting the group, and make a site to make it popular, not based on Habbo but on real life.
Experting
26-05-2008, 07:26 PM
tbh, I got so much nice comments on other fansites i posted it on, appart from habbox.
shizzle
26-05-2008, 07:27 PM
Yes as I suggested than TechRemix, because people on Habbo are mainly kids of young age and wouldn't really care as they came on to play Habbo :S
Experting
26-05-2008, 07:31 PM
Pfft! Suspension will u just stop posting here i dont want your negitive comments please.
If you dont like the group dont join and dont post here.
To all other people:
Please feel free to join the group.
I need abit of help tho i need some facts about knife crime if you know any please post below and if i add them to the page ill +REP you.
Pfft! Suspension will u just stop posting here i dont want your negitive comments please.
If you dont like the group dont join and dont post here.
To all other people:
Please feel free to join the group.
I need abit of help tho i need some facts about knife crime if you know any please post below and if i add them to the page ill +REP you.
I don't understand, I offered, shall I make an mc *with no swearing*?
You can use for your group if you like it/agree to have it?
Experting
26-05-2008, 07:42 PM
You cannot put music on the group page xD
Its a good idea tho but i dont think it will work.
shizzle
26-05-2008, 07:43 PM
he meant in words, lets do a duet.
Experting
26-05-2008, 08:24 PM
Ill think ill pass on that one!
Remember to join the group!
Nereo
26-05-2008, 08:39 PM
Ooh that is a good point though, the kind of people who go on Habbo arent the sort of people who carry knives around. Its a nice idea though :D
JessicaLOL
26-05-2008, 09:18 PM
Attitude? This is the Internet and it will be known on Habbo hotel mainly, so how will it help in real life, tell me;)
becuz ppl play habbo
and so wot if majority dnt carry knifes there might b 1 person who does.. and changes there mind because of that group
thats how it helps
there will never bee nuffin 2 completly stop it even if he wasted money on a proper website
lmao.
Experting
26-05-2008, 09:31 PM
Today i decided to make a group on Habbo UK about Respect Your Life Not a Knife It has loads of handy facts and stuff for you to look at its new and im still working on it i just wanted to see what people think of it and to see if you will join the group =]
Click Here To Visit The Group Page (http://www.habbo.co.uk/groups/respectyourlife)
I also need some little facts about knife crime in the UK so feel free to post below or in the group guestbook.
Also i need comments of what you think of the group and what i can improve etc.
Please Join The Group!
Lets get back on topic. Join the group =]
Redacted
26-05-2008, 09:47 PM
so you think a 15 yr old drugged up youth, is going to go on Habbo, read your group, then put his knife down, and turn to buying credits.?
Experting
26-05-2008, 10:04 PM
pfft! some people JUST dont get it do you.
Redacted
26-05-2008, 10:15 PM
pfft! some people JUST dont get it do you.
I totally get it, I just want to know, how is it going to stop knife crime?
If you can tell me that, and I agree, im satisfied.
OrangeMobile
26-05-2008, 10:40 PM
Its a nice thought, so well done.
But in reality, these people are probably not going to join your Habbo group.
But seriously the sense of community is amazing, and it is nice to know human nature still exsits.
Good on you for making this group!
Like yeh there is other problems but in london and the uk there is alot of killings through knifes! Its good to see someone wants to do something about it even though its on habbo but it still supports it :)
+rep xox
Shawnstra
26-05-2008, 11:41 PM
Nice group, I like the design too. Although it won't really make a huge difference, it is nice to see you took the initiative to stop this problem :)
I totally get it, I just want to know, how is it going to stop knife crime?
If you can tell me that, and I agree, im satisfied.
It obviously won't ******* stop knife crime. Jesus christ, some people are honestly stupid. What he's trying to do is raise awareness about it and showing people that you don't need to use a knife.
Why wouldn't people who play Habbo use one? When kids are bullied to a point where they can't stand it they'll do whatever the **** they want to stop it. Instead of sitting here talking crap about the group, don't ******* post.
What's the point of posters saying stop bullying and crap? It's to RAISE AWARENESS. Regardless of whether it's the net or not, people will read it and I can bet that at least one person will be changed some how by it and whether they take it further by telling their friends when something comes up (involving a knife, obviously) or just adding in the extra effort to show that using a knife is not the way to go.
It's not ******* brain surgery.
Experting
27-05-2008, 08:08 AM
Thanks for the comments guys/girls keep them comming in =]
Also group update: Some more stickys have been added and some notes have been added about past stab victims.
shizzle
27-05-2008, 08:28 AM
becuz ppl play habbo
and so wot if majority dnt carry knifes there might b 1 person who does.. and changes there mind because of that group
thats how it helps
there will never bee nuffin 2 completly stop it even if he wasted money on a proper website
lmao.
Well most Habbo players are young, like 11-14 crimes are mainly 15+
AgnesIO
27-05-2008, 08:46 AM
Mate,
Well done on making this group!
To the idiots that have been going on about no one is gonna listen etc, He isn't saying it will get knife crime away! He is just trying to raise awareness of it.
This year over TWENTY FIVE people have been murdered by knifes, and you lot are saying no one will care?!
If everyone put in a small bit of effort this group could mean a lot. So all you people moaning, why don't you just leave the thread, and carry on thinking knife crime is just part of life, coz if you think like that in twenty years time IT WILL BE.
+Rep Experting.
P.S. I bet familys of people murdered by knife's would aprreciate this if they saw the page, and i bet you will if someone you know gets murdered.
P.P.S What the hell are you talking about suspension 'The people that commit knife crimes are mainly 15+, what a load of bull honestly.
shizzle
27-05-2008, 08:51 AM
Mate,
Well done on making this group!
To the idiots that have been going on about no one is gonna listen etc, He isn't saying it will get knife crime away! He is just trying to raise awareness of it.
This year over TWENTY FIVE people have been murdered by knifes, and you lot are saying no one will care?!
If everyone put in a small bit of effort this group could mean a lot. So all you people moaning, why don't you just leave the thread, and carry on thinking knife crime is just part of life, coz if you think like that in twenty years time IT WILL BE.
+Rep Experting.
P.S. I bet familys of people murdered by knife's would aprreciate this if they saw the page, and i bet you will if someone you know gets murdered.
If you think about it, if you were advertising a car on Habbo for example would anyone contact you via Habbo? no, thats in real life buisness. If this was a group on a community like myspace or forums then that would be something else, because Habbo, its a game what do you expect from young kids, they wouldn't care much they came on Habbo to play their game. Its not moaning its true, its made in a wrong place.
Ardemax
27-05-2008, 08:57 AM
Well most Habbo players are young, like 11-14 crimes are mainly 15+
The average a couple of months ago was 15-16.
If you think about it, if you were advertising a car on Habbo for example would anyone contact you via Habbo? no, thats in real life buisness. If this was a group on a community like myspace or forums then that would be something else, because Habbo, its a game what do you expect from young kids, they wouldn't care much they came on Habbo to play their game. Its not moaning its true, its made in a wrong place.
YOU DON'T GET ANYTHING. IT'S LOOKING AT YOU IN THE BLOODY FACE. HE'S NOT TRYING TO STOP KNIFE CRIME, HE'S MAKING EVERYONE AWARE OF IT AND WHAT THE DAMAGE CAN BE.
as said before, it's not brain surgery!!
AgnesIO
27-05-2008, 08:58 AM
If you think about it, if you were advertising a car on Habbo for example would anyone contact you via Habbo? no, thats in real life buisness. If this was a group on a community like myspace or forums then that would be something else, because Habbo, its a game what do you expect from young kids, they wouldn't care much they came on Habbo to play their game. Its not moaning its true, its made in a wrong place.
No, as i said if everyone did there little bit then it could be in more thn habbo. All negative thinking does, is ruins Britain (If it hasn't already -Which in my opinion it has.) It is only habbo addicts thta pay no attention to groups....
P.S. Yeski if you weren't cautioned i would +Rep you!
Frisky
27-05-2008, 08:58 AM
Doesnt anyone read the papers!?!?!?
That guy in the new Harry Potter film has just been stabbed and killed. It's all over front pages of yesterdays' paper!
sheesh people.
have RESPECT.
AgnesIO
27-05-2008, 09:01 AM
Doesnt anyone read the papers!?!?!?
That guy in the new Harry Potter film has just been stabbed and killed. It's all over front pages of yesterdays' paper!
sheesh people.
have RESPECT.
I read papers, you have to remember most people on this forum seem to have lost there brain.
SO MANY PEOPLE ARE KILLED BY KNIFES EACH YEAR, YET SOME PEOPLE SEEM TO THINK BRITAIN IS PERFECT. Let's face it ITS NOT.
+Rep Friskey!
EDIT: I can't i have +/-Repped not to long ago it seems!
shizzle
27-05-2008, 09:07 AM
The average a couple of months ago was 15-16.
YOU DON'T GET ANYTHING. IT'S LOOKING AT YOU IN THE BLOODY FACE. HE'S NOT TRYING TO STOP KNIFE CRIME, HE'S MAKING EVERYONE AWARE OF IT AND WHAT THE DAMAGE CAN BE.
as said before, it's not brain surgery!!
What make little kids aware of it? Its suppose to target teens in high school.
No, as i said if everyone did there little bit then it could be in more thn habbo. All negative thinking does, is ruins Britain (If it hasn't already -Which in my opinion it has.) It is only habbo addicts thta pay no attention to groups....
P.S. Yeski if you weren't cautioned i would +Rep you!
Pfft, Habbo addict, I don't play Habbo like some people do.
Experting
27-05-2008, 09:15 AM
We have gone compleatley off topic, Just make sure you all join the group!
shizzle
27-05-2008, 09:23 AM
Its actually on topic about this group yeah :P
Experting
27-05-2008, 09:32 AM
Look suspension can u just stop posting in this thread. Your an idiot.
Edited by lAscend (Forum Super Moderator): Please don't insult other forum members.
shizzle
27-05-2008, 09:37 AM
How is am? Are you trying to hurt my feelings pmsl, Its called backing up a point tbh.
Experting
27-05-2008, 10:03 AM
Suspension just leave this forum noone likes you look at your rep power its in black.. means u got all bad rep...
Anyways, Join the group everyone!
shizzle
27-05-2008, 10:11 AM
PMSLLLL no its not Its called "disabled repuation" you have 0 rep power I don't know what your on about haha you maded me lol.
William93
27-05-2008, 10:29 AM
Attitude? This is the Internet and it will be known on Habbo hotel mainly, so how will it help in real life, tell me;)
So what, its the internet? If I told you that you were a ****, you'd say I have a mean attitude. If I said you were gorgeous, you'd say I have a flattering attitude.
Known on Habbo Hotel? So? Habbo Hotel is dominated by thousands of children who, some of which, get threatened to be stabbed by someone either at home or at school.
Advice like this from a group will help them.
You're an idiot.
Edited by --ss-- (Forum Super Moderator): Please do not be rude.
shizzle
27-05-2008, 10:34 AM
So what, its the internet? If I told you that you were a ****, you'd say I have a mean attitude. If I said you were gorgeous, you'd say I have a flattering attitude.
Known on Habbo Hotel? So? Habbo Hotel is dominated by thousands of children who, some of which, get threatened to be stabbed by someone either at home or at school.
Advice like this from a group will help them.
You're an idiot.
Advice? What advice, it only gives you facts :l
InfoStructure
27-05-2008, 11:06 AM
Advice? What advice, it only gives you facts :l
it gives you advice. now, to be honest, you sound like you use knife crime.
Experting
27-05-2008, 11:44 AM
suspension Just give it a rest.
Anyways Make sure you join the group.
Click Here To Visit The Group (http://www.habbo.co.uk/groups/respectyourlife)
Make sure you Join It!
Charly
27-05-2008, 01:14 PM
Good idea :]
But I do see where Suspension is coming from.. he is saying that some people who use knives probably have never been on habbo or will ever be because they're always out mugging people, but if a couple of people who see it a spread the word it may show people how bad knife crime is in the UK
;]
GommeInc
27-05-2008, 01:21 PM
That's quite a good idea for a group! I thought it was one made by Habbo UK as an official group :P
Bonxy
27-05-2008, 01:28 PM
good group.. good info
Experting
27-05-2008, 03:18 PM
Thanks again for all the nice comments, Keep them comming and keep joining the group!
Experting
27-05-2008, 04:08 PM
Group Update: Background Changed, Stickys Updated, Notes Updated.
Experting
27-05-2008, 05:13 PM
There is another group update!
You can now discuss Your experiences with knives in the discussion forum! To view the discussion forum post CLICK HERE (http://www.habbo.co.uk/groups/respectyourlife/discussions/39198/id)
*NOTE: If a mod can merge the 3 posts please *
Experting
27-05-2008, 05:33 PM
erm havent you already said that ?
JackBuddy
27-05-2008, 05:54 PM
erm havent you already said that ?
he probably has.
you will soon learn that suspension posts as much crap as possible in every thread to increase his post count.
William93
27-05-2008, 06:38 PM
Simple put me on ignore, don't bother, if it was crap then why would I be backing up my thoughts, well then you have no explaination.
The ignorance of a douche combined with the lack of grammar makes the quoted post unreadable.
Experting
27-05-2008, 06:41 PM
Today i decided to make a group on Habbo UK about Respect Your Life Not a Knife It has loads of handy facts and stuff for you to look at its new and im still working on it i just wanted to see what people think of it and to see if you will join the group =]
Click Here To Visit The Group Page (http://www.habbo.co.uk/groups/respectyourlife)
I also need some little facts about knife crime in the UK so feel free to post below or in the group guestbook.
Also i need comments of what you think of the group and what i can improve etc.
Please Join The Group!
Lets get back on topic, Read that ^^
shizzle
27-05-2008, 06:44 PM
The ignorance of a douche combined with the lack of grammar makes the quoted post unreadable.
Does it really matter? If you think about it, its only a forum.
William93
27-05-2008, 06:47 PM
Does it really matter? If you think about it, its only a forum.
Take a guess.
On a forum, you have to create something which people have to read. If people can't read it, then what the **** is the point?
MissAlice
27-05-2008, 06:48 PM
Today i decided to make a group on Habbo UK about Respect Your Life Not a Knife It has loads of handy facts and stuff for you to look at its new and im still working on it i just wanted to see what people think of it and to see if you will join the group =]
Click Here To Visit The Group Page (http://www.habbo.co.uk/groups/respectyourlife)
I also need some little facts about knife crime in the UK so feel free to post below or in the group guestbook.
Also i need comments of what you think of the group and what i can improve etc.
Please Join The Group!
It seems to be continually on the news that a teenager has been stabbed to death, and what sickens me is that it's teenagers committing these crimes. There needs to be some very serious action taken to help prevent stabbings. It could be a member of our family next, so it should be important to us all.
I don't join many groups, but I will be joining this one :)
William93
27-05-2008, 06:52 PM
I'd join too, but that would require me to log into Habbo etc.
I will do when I next log in. Hopefully the negativity of other members wont bring you down.
Experting
27-05-2008, 07:32 PM
Thank you so much for all your support, I hope this group will raise awearness and it will become popular and people may acualy listen to it, Even if it makes just 1 person not carry a knife with them, That will do for me.
GhostFace-
27-05-2008, 07:35 PM
just try to get lost witness in it only way to help it
For people arguing about it; I quote myself.
It obviously won't ******* stop knife crime. Jesus christ, some people are honestly stupid. What he's trying to do is raise awareness about it and showing people that you don't need to use a knife.
Why wouldn't people who play Habbo use one? When kids are bullied to a point where they can't stand it they'll do whatever the **** they want to stop it. Instead of sitting here talking crap about the group, don't ******* post.
What's the point of posters saying stop bullying and crap? It's to RAISE AWARENESS. Regardless of whether it's the net or not, people will read it and I can bet that at least one person will be changed some how by it and whether they take it further by telling their friends when something comes up (involving a knife, obviously) or just adding in the extra effort to show that using a knife is not the way to go.
It's not ******* brain surgery.
Why debate about it? He's raising awareness. People fighting suspension, just shut the hell about it. suspension has a point and so do people agreeing with the group.
Experting
27-05-2008, 08:25 PM
All i want if for people to take notice of the group and to raise awareness about knife crime, It look me alot of time and alot of credit to make the group. I just want to raise awareness.
SUSPENSION PLEASE STOP POSTING!!
This thread is for Experting to showcase his group, not for you to make a mockery of it. At least he is trying to do something rather than just sitting on his **** and destroying all hope of anything good..
ElliottThompson
27-05-2008, 11:10 PM
Attitude? This is the Internet and it will be known on Habbo hotel mainly, so how will it help in real life, tell me;)
I can tell you exactly how u idiot, there are many groups like this, they are mainly awareness groups, that keyword there awareness, if more people are AWARE of the situation with knives then they will be able to handle a sitation which involes them better, so yes it does help raise awareness of the problem surrounding knives,
Experting, brill group, its great to see some people putting themselves out for the GOOD of the community :)
Edited by jesus (Forum Super Moderator): Please do not insult other members.
Thetan
28-05-2008, 04:46 AM
What make little kids aware of it? Its suppose to target teens in high school.
Pfft, Habbo addict, I don't play Habbo like some people do.
Shut up, your making yourself look stupid targetting DJ-Dominator, and yes kids carry knives too. Stop trying to act all high and mighty.
AgnesIO
28-05-2008, 08:00 AM
he probably has.
you will soon learn that suspension posts as much crap as possible in every thread to increase his post count.
Shut up, your making yourself look stupid targetting DJ-Dominator, and yes kids carry knives too. Stop trying to act all high and mighty.
He does it in most threads.
Anyway as i have said and people seem to be seeing now, the point is for people to be aware of what goes on NOT to to never do it again.
shizzle
28-05-2008, 09:28 AM
He does it in most threads.
Anyway as i have said and people seem to be seeing now, the point is for people to be aware of what goes on NOT to to never do it again.
Read the last quote.
Shut up, your making yourself look stupid targetting DJ-Dominator, and yes kids carry knives too. Stop trying to act all high and mighty.
How is backing your point look stupid? Everyone has a right to say what they believe. How can you act "high and mighty" on a forum pft.
For people arguing about it; I quote myself.
Why debate about it? He's raising awareness. People fighting suspension, just shut the hell about it. suspension has a point and so do people agreeing with the group.
Exactly everyone has a right to say something.
Experting
28-05-2008, 09:45 AM
suspension Can you please refrain from posting in this thread please.
Anyways, I have done some updates on the group and the discussion forum so feel free to take a look =]
shizzle
28-05-2008, 09:52 AM
Its calling backing up what I believe, I agree with LiquidAciid tbh. Basically anyone is alouded to back up their thoughts so I don't know why you lot are flaming its called a supporting an opinion of mine.
William93
28-05-2008, 09:59 AM
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Experting
28-05-2008, 11:05 AM
Today i decided to make a group on Habbo UK about Respect Your Life Not a Knife It has loads of handy facts and stuff for you to look at its new and im still working on it i just wanted to see what people think of it and to see if you will join the group =]
Click Here To Visit The Group Page (http://www.habbo.co.uk/groups/respectyourlife)
I also need some little facts about knife crime in the UK so feel free to post below or in the group guestbook.
Also i need comments of what you think of the group and what i can improve etc.
Please Join The Group!
Lets get back on topic... Read the info above and join the group!
JackBuddy
28-05-2008, 11:17 AM
How is backing your point look stupid? Everyone has a right to say what they believe. How can you act "high and mighty" on a forum pft.
and you act like a complete idiot posting crap to increase your post count. you didnt try to think of a response in every thread then you wouldn't have go into this mess.
Edited by lAscend (Forum Super Moderator): Please don't insult other members.
---MAD---
28-05-2008, 12:01 PM
Attitude? This is the Internet and it will be known on Habbo hotel mainly, so how will it help in real life, tell me;)
It won't cause any harm either so I don't see the problem here. I think your just trying to degrade his group and start arguments ;).
It won't cause any harm either so I don't see the problem here. I think your just trying to degrade his group and start arguments ;).
He's already done that. :P
Experting
28-05-2008, 01:11 PM
So lets talk about the group page, What do you like about the page and what can i change to make it better ?
And thank you ---MAD--- for stopping the arugments, I forgot to add it in that post ^
(Maby because im blond) [And can a MOD merge this post please]
Posts merged by ,Jess, (Forum Moderator): In future try and be a little more careful about multiple posting :).
William93
28-05-2008, 04:38 PM
I apologise for arguing, but when people start acting like a complete ****, it really does annoy me.
Experting
28-05-2008, 07:35 PM
I agree he was abit of a noob. Anyways any ideas on the group page ?
shizzle
29-05-2008, 08:47 AM
It won't cause any harm either so I don't see the problem here. I think your just trying to degrade his group and start arguments ;).
--MAD--- have you read the first post I made in this thread? It is called an opinion to what I think then William93 comes along and says
With a **** attitude like that, you might as well think a place like ChildLine won't help as well. So who is starting basically?;)
William93
29-05-2008, 09:09 AM
--MAD--- have you read the first post I made in this thread? It is called an opinion to what I think then William93 comes along and says
So who is starting basically?;)
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shizzle
29-05-2008, 09:38 AM
REMOVED
Everyones opinion is alouded, if you don't care then you can just simple click and add me onto your ignore. Not all opinions have to be possible, If you read through I also posted ways of improvements.
William93
29-05-2008, 09:51 AM
Everyones opinion is alouded, if you don't care then you can just simple click and add me onto your ignore. Not all opinions have to be possible, If you read through I also posted ways of improvements.
Please come back when your posts are improved greatly. Things like "alouded" and "all opinions have to be possible" just take the piss.
shizzle
29-05-2008, 10:03 AM
Please come back when your posts are improved greatly. Things like "alouded" and "all opinions have to be possible" just take the piss.
How do those quotes take the piss? Plus I was informed already so yes :)
JackBuddy
29-05-2008, 10:05 AM
How do those quotes take the piss? Plus I was informed already so yes :)
i think he agress with me- you spam anything you can think of that is half relevant to make a thread drag on or allow you to increase your post count.
jesus
29-05-2008, 10:07 AM
i think he agress with me- you spam anything you can think of that is half relevant to make a thread drag on or allow you to increase your post count.QFT. Now keep on topic or you'll all be punished!
shizzle
29-05-2008, 10:11 AM
i think he agress with me- you spam anything you can think of that is half relevant to make a thread drag on or allow you to increase your post count.
Really? I see thats why you are doing it yourself now after you have said it loads of times, if he didn't continute then I wouldn't be posting on this forum and you aswell, and It would of ended if people would just take that as an opinion.
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