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efq
26-05-2008, 09:14 PM
Who thinks a donation where members can donate to help the China Fund, it may be small but yesterdays tradegy, making 70,000 homeless in under 7 seconds just shows the trouble now.
Its said that more than 100,000+ will collapse If another AfterShock occurs due to the recent damage from the Earthquake its self.

Habboxforum could open a seperate account for donations but maybe take 1p out of every VIP bought.

I believe they are looking into this but I want to know your views on it.

GommeInc
26-05-2008, 09:28 PM
It's a good idea, but ALL the money made should be given to the charity, considering not as many people buy VIP now, because of the "support" issue... Unless that ended sometime ago?

samsaBEAR
26-05-2008, 09:29 PM
its a nice idea, like they do for the xmas VIP, just make it like x% of each VIP bought

today
26-05-2008, 09:37 PM
I perfer the one off event for xMas makes it more special and well more money.

I voted no as china and that is well a massive place and if they cant support themsels then we shouldnt support them.

Same for most charitys. Unless it was for say PDSA(sp?) i wouldnt really want it.

Thats my unhuman side of me.

contagious
26-05-2008, 10:03 PM
I perfer the one off event for xMas makes it more special and well more money.

I voted no as china and that is well a massive place and if they cant support themsels then we shouldnt support them.

Same for most charitys. Unless it was for say PDSA(sp?) i wouldnt really want it.

Thats my unhuman side of me.

So because they can't support themselves, we shouldn't help them because of it? I seriously don't understand how that works out, because if your country were struck by some form of natural disaster, i'm sure you'd want as much help as you could get.

As for the poll I voted yes, we should help them in some form.

Redacted
26-05-2008, 10:06 PM
No, no I dont, Its china, the tight up president should.

today
26-05-2008, 10:17 PM
So because they can't support themselves, we shouldn't help them because of it? I seriously don't understand how that works out, because if your country were struck by some form of natural disaster, i'm sure you'd want as much help as you could get.

As for the poll I voted yes, we should help them in some form.
Not really, considering we can support ourselves pretty much, China is massive and they can support themselves a lot, they just choose not too.


No, no I dont, Its china, the tight up president should.lol

F32
26-05-2008, 10:24 PM
Their president guy doesn't want any help so I voted no.

efq
26-05-2008, 10:28 PM
China has enough to deal with, No government has ever really faced 70,000 homes collapsing in 7 seconds. And then also dealing with Beijing.

If it was UK, and you we're stuck under a structure, I'm sure you'd be hoping someone would give money to help.


Yes, there president is awful, But its not the Chinese Publics Fault.

contagious
26-05-2008, 10:42 PM
Not really, considering we can support ourselves pretty much, China is massive and they can support themselves a lot, they just choose not too.

lol

Which is why we should support them as much as we can, because the people are being denied the support and resources they could be getting. The ignorant decisions made by a government shouldn't be the reason we don't help millions of people who are currently in need.

Wootzeh
26-05-2008, 10:48 PM
No, because their government is crap.

Invent
26-05-2008, 10:49 PM
Do you have any idea how much Habbox costs to run every month? I'm suprised they are kind enough to run a christmas charity offer let alone run one out of the blue.

The site needs the money gained from VIP to put towards the servers, I imagine they can't afford to just give the money they get away.

samsaBEAR
26-05-2008, 10:59 PM
So because they can't support themselves, we shouldn't help them because of it? I seriously don't understand how that works out, because if your country were struck by some form of natural disaster, i'm sure you'd want as much help as you could get.

As for the poll I voted yes, we should help them in some form.
thats just it, you know as well as i do if the UK was struck by an earthquake, china wouldn't be as quick to help us.
plus tbh, as harsh as this sounds, its just karma for the whole tibet thing

-Xiangu-
26-05-2008, 11:12 PM
Yes we should.

contagious
26-05-2008, 11:12 PM
thats just it, you know as well as i do if the UK was struck by an earthquake, china wouldn't be as quick to help us.
plus tbh, as harsh as this sounds, its just karma for the whole tibet thing

Its disgusting if i'm frank. These thousands of people who died, they probably had nothing to do with Tibet. You can't blame everything on the population, when its the government who actually make these decisions.

Its like the example of a classroom - because one student has done something wrong, we should tar the rest with the same brush and give them the same punishment, when we know full well whos fault it actually is.

F32
26-05-2008, 11:13 PM
Its like the example of a classroom - because one student has done something wrong, we should tar the rest with the same brush and give them the same punishment, when we know full well whos fault it actually is.
I believe that's called child cruelty.

samsaBEAR
26-05-2008, 11:30 PM
Its disgusting if i'm frank. These thousands of people who died, they probably had nothing to do with Tibet. You can't blame everything on the population, when its the government who actually make these decisions.

Its like the example of a classroom - because one student has done something wrong, we should tar the rest with the same brush and give them the same punishment, when we know full well whos fault it actually is.
well perhaps if the government weren't a bunch of ***** then it would alright to help them
im sorry, but they really dont deserve our help, they've done so many horrible things to the tibetan people, so why should they not suffer the consequences

Shinigami
26-05-2008, 11:35 PM
if people wanted to donate then they can donate through the charity, not a habbo fansite forum? :S

Invent
26-05-2008, 11:37 PM
@Above, good point :)

Why should HxF have to give away the money they need to run the site, when you could just donate some extra money to the charities yourself?

samsaBEAR
26-05-2008, 11:39 PM
if people wanted to donate then they can donate through the charity, not a habbo fansite forum? :S
a very good point lol, especially seeing as almost every charity supports paypal and the like.

contagious
26-05-2008, 11:41 PM
well perhaps if the government weren't a bunch of ***** then it would alright to help them
im sorry, but they really dont deserve our help, they've done so many horrible things to the tibetan people, so why should they not suffer the consequences

Yes, but now you've gone back to the government's actions and what they have done, rather then the actual people who are out there suffering. A human life is a human life, where ever they come from. They shouldn't be denied any form of help because of what the people above them have done, because you can't just say "we won't help x because y did something I don't like" because that is immoral and again is tarring everyone with the same brush, when its the minority who made the decision.

Shawnstra
26-05-2008, 11:43 PM
Yeah, too bad red names (for admins) is taken, because it is "chinese-y"

I have already donated 10 dollars via a charity show in Singapore to help them, but nice idea, I don't mind donating more (my uncle is there working, coming back next week)

How about some for the Myanmar cyclone? The China earthquake is stealing all the spotlight :P

@above, people might not want to donate, but to buy VIP some might won't mind donating indirectly.

-Xiangu-
26-05-2008, 11:46 PM
well perhaps if the government weren't a bunch of ***** then it would alright to help them
im sorry, but they really dont deserve our help, they've done so many horrible things to the tibetan people, so why should they not suffer the consequences

How can you say that? If it were your family there you would want them helped. The innocent public have nothing to do with the ******* government in china so why should they suffer?!

StickMan
27-05-2008, 12:03 AM
I think everyone should make a donation (doesn't matter how much) in their local banks, that way Habbox doesn't have to worry about transfering the money, getting into problems, changing the money rating...

It would be nice yes, but less problems

Dan/

Jeopardy
27-05-2008, 12:14 AM
No, let them suffer.

StickMan
27-05-2008, 04:31 AM
Let them suffer because...

I totaly disagree with you, but respect your ideas.
In the earthqueake of 1985, China as many other countrys helped Mexico in everything they could.

Today for me..
Tomorrow for you...

Dan/

Jordy
27-05-2008, 09:17 AM
Just because China is big that means nothing, it means they have 1.2 billion people to feed not that they're rich.

Lots of you say the government is reluctant to accept aid, that's actually the Burma situation so I wouldn't make accusations like that if you don't even watch the news.

I don't think China have been needing aid, they've flown in a lot of their military and are dedicating lots of resource's over there, it doesn't seem too much of a situation, the worst has been done and we can't stop another after-shock, China are taking care of survivors, it just needs to be done quickly. Don't get me wrong it's been an awful disaster but there's little more that can be done other than planning for the future which I'm sure a almost world-super nation can deal with. The situation isn't on-going, the Earthquakes have happened, people are at risk, not too much more can be done.

I'd rather donate money to the Burmese Cyclone as they're now accepting aid and that is actually a humane crisis which is still on-going.

However mean and harsh these natural disaster's are, there's at least 2 or 3 big one's every year especially with global warming happening, there's many more chances of these extreme events. If Habbox support this one, then perhaps they should support all the future one's? It's not feasible as you can't just donate to this and then when there's a tsunami in Indonesia later this year we just say 'Yeah we've already donated'. After all, Habbox do their bit at Christmas and they still have to fund their server's etc at the end of the day.

On topic of Habbox Christmas, I haven't heard ANYTHING about where the money's been spent this year, I've been meaning to raise this issue.

http://www.habbox.com/site//content/view/3138/297/

It just says it's going to 'Less fortunate people', they've not even announced the Charity yet or gave proof of the donation like they have done in previous years.

Surely it's up to Habbox what they do with their finance anyway, if people want to make a donation then why not make one yourself, you don't seriously need Habbox to do it for you if it matters so much to you:
http://www.redcross.org/news/in/profiles/Intl_profile_ChinaEarthquake.asp?s_src=pre_aspLink

Meanies
27-05-2008, 11:31 AM
It won't happen.

I brought the idea up a while ago and the answer was no :)

Firehorse
27-05-2008, 11:36 AM
Would habbox just take all the money or would they be honest and actually give it to the charity? Plus they've raised more money than they can get in aid to the country anyway so it wouldn't help.

efq
27-05-2008, 12:22 PM
Would habbox just take all the money or would they be honest and actually give it to the charity? Plus they've raised more money than they can get in aid to the country anyway so it wouldn't help.
Lmao, well 70,000+ people did go homeless in 7 seconds...

About if you want to donate, donate via proper than Habboxforum.
Ok then, how about you do that for Christmas and any other charitys HabboxForum used to run. Because if they do China not through her what gives any reason to do any.

Boonzeet
27-05-2008, 02:53 PM
Red Name with a black over-and-underline?

Although yes, we should donate to their charity - here's a point:

China wouldn't support us during a natural disaster.

today
27-05-2008, 03:33 PM
Exaclty, thus its a bad idea.

Just use another way to raise money if you care that much.

efq
27-05-2008, 08:32 PM
The reason they wouldn't donate to us is because of their Governement.

If you had a disaster and Englands Governement we're being stupid, but yet it isnt you fault but you dont get any help? Would you feel happy.

Its not the Chinas Public thats done anything wrong, a chinese kid couldn't go ok lets go help UK cause they been hit by earthquake, their Governement do, and by my way their Governement are aload of ****.

GommeInc
27-05-2008, 08:53 PM
The aid wouldn't get to them, you are half correct that the government isn't supporting them, but you're forgetting that the aid we'd give them wouldn't get to them because they wouldn't allow it or use it.

efq
27-05-2008, 09:16 PM
I'd like to keep you updated with the info.

2nd After shock has brought the number of homes collasped to 420,000. 5 Million are homeless. 67,000+ Dead.

5 MILLION HOMELESS? You cannot even allow on all the charitys because thats out of hand.

Catzsy
27-05-2008, 09:43 PM
I would suggest people making a contribution to Oxfam or the Red Cross. They would know where the need is most great. Habbox do give to a chosen charity once a year at Xmas but there are so many disasters and famines in the world it would be difficult to collect for all of them, unfortunately. China is not a poor country and has accepted help from major nations.

nvrspk4
28-05-2008, 03:06 AM
I'm sorry but no. This doesn't come out of cruelty of a lack of conscience but out of pure realism. We do a once-a-year fundraiser as it is, but we can't do one for every disaster that occurs, else we wouldn't be able to pay our server fees.

Plus, with the PayPal deduction for the payment to Habbox and the payment from Habbox, it makes a lot more sense to just donate directly.

samsaBEAR
28-05-2008, 10:41 AM
I'd like to keep you updated with the info.

2nd After shock has brought the number of homes collasped to 420,000. 5 Million are homeless. 67,000+ Dead.

5 MILLION HOMELESS? You cannot even allow on all the charitys because thats out of hand.
and here you are wasting your time on habbox when you could be organising a fundraiser

efq
29-05-2008, 11:38 AM
Well atleast could put a link on the nav donate to china, which links to redcross

samsaBEAR
29-05-2008, 11:41 AM
Well atleast could put a link on the nav donate to china, which links to redcross
at least you could put a link in your signature?

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