New Rule

[Titch]

Hi,

I think we should have a new rule stating that people cannot post commenting on other people spelling/grammars mistakes made in the post. In retrospec its a form of bullying if you keep posting postituantly about that person saying "Ow you cant even speak english" , "You have grammar of a 3 year old", that is all forms of bullying. Also some people cant help there spelling and grammar becuase of things like disletcia and other things. Also, the people commenting with theese comments seem to do this is alot of threads trying to cause arguments within the thread and attacking the person who created the thread.

So your comments please?

[jesus]

Just report the posts instead of replying to them and we'll deal with them if they are inappropriate.

[le harry]

I APOLOGISE.

[e5]

I voted no. I don't think it's really something that should be implemented.

[msb.]

I voted yes, I don't think they will listen tho, cough nick- don't even know how to remove pointless rep...

Some reasons I have are just pointless, nothing to do with the thread and that nick- person doesn't have a clue what pointless comments are.

On topic: Grammar I agree, it is a term of bullying saying you can't speak english etc...
This forum for some strange reason allows it to happen.

I hope what ---MAD--- said makes the forum better and not worse.

[samsaBEAR]

well grammar and spelling are something that you've been taught since age 4, so if you cant speak it, you should prepare yourself to be corrected. i would expect someone to correct me if i got mine wrong.

[N!ck]

well grammar and spelling are something that you've been taught since age 4, so if you cant speak it, you should prepare yourself to be corrected. i would expect someone to correct me if i got mine wrong.

Capital letters at the start of sentences? :P

Erm, and no there shouldn't be a rule. People should use the correct spelling and grammar.

[Leetzgirl]

Capital letters at the start of sentences? :P

Erm, and no there shouldn't be a rule. People should use the correct spelling and grammar.

but it a habbo forum and many of them are youngsters.

althrough i know grammer and spelling, it just i cba.

[Kardan]

No, because you could insult someone on just about everything, meaning we'd have to have numerous rules...

The rule about not insulting people in general covers it, so there's no need for a new rule.

[samsaBEAR]

but it a habbo forum and many of them are youngsters.

althrough i know grammer and spelling, it just i cba.
Youngsters are taught correct spelling and grammar from age 4, like I said. Therefore they should apply it for forum use as well as real life use. I'm sure they don't 'spk lyk dis in real lyfe mayte' or any of that crap.

[drama]

I voted yes, I don't think they will listen tho, cough nick- [don't] even know how to remove pointless rep...


Doesn't*


Sorry, coudn't resist ;)

[msb.]

Doesn't*


Sorry, [coudn't] resist ;)
Play that crap game then.


Couldn't

On topic: I agree with the idea, an example is above of a person trying to correct others for making a simple mistake. How pointless.

[Kardan]

Play that crap game then.


Couldn't

On topic: I agree with the idea, an example is above of a person trying to correct others for making a simple mistake. How pointless.

Talk about being a hypocrite...

You want to introduce the rule yet you still correct people...

[msb.]

Talk about being a hypocrite...

You wan't to introduce the rule yet you still correct people...
No I was showing an example... of what people do.

Don't cry because of the -rep.

[Catzsy]

I have to say that the 'grammar' police do annoy me. Lots of different people from lots of different countries use this forum and English may not be their first language. Also some people's english is not as good as others or they could be dyslexic? Personally I think it is either a symptom of a compulsive
obsessive disorder to want everybody to have a high standard of grammar or
its a cheap jibe when somebody wants to insult another but can't think what to say. :P

As people before have said though - rules about insulting others cover it,
although the consequences of embarrassing members on the forum could be looked into.

Good thread Titch - highlights something that can be thought about.

[msb.]

I have to say that the 'grammar' police do annoy me. Lots of different people from lots of different countries use this forum and English may not be their first language. Also some people's english is not as good as others or they could be dyslexic? Personally I think it is either a symptom of a compulsive
obsessive disorder to want everybody to have a high standard of grammar or
its a cheap jibe when somebody wants to insult another but can't think what to say. :P

As people before have said though - rules about insulting others cover it,
although the consequences of embarrassing members on the forum could be looked into.

Good thread Titch - highlights something that can be thought about.

I agree but most people won't follow it I bet
+rep anyways

[buttons]

No, not really. It is annoying when people just start arguments over grammar, it doesn't prove your better, but wen derz sum1 that tokz lyk dis nd u cnt undrstand them, which I do :P then I think it's okay to tell them to write it in English if you can't understand it..

[N!ck]

I have to say that the 'grammar' police do annoy me. Lots of different people from lots of different countries use this forum and English may not be their first language. Also some people's english is not as good as others or they could be dyslexic? Personally I think it is either a symptom of a compulsive
obsessive disorder to want everybody to have a high standard of grammar or
its a cheap jibe when somebody wants to insult another but can't think what to say. :P

As people before have said though - rules about insulting others cover it,
although the consequences of embarrassing members on the forum could be looked into.

I agree, but i think people should make an effort, whether it's their first language or not. ppl tlking lyk dis rly annoys me on a forrum. However, when instant messaging someone in a converssation it's fine as you may want to get your message across quickly.

There, their, your, you're, borrow and lend are the ones thet get to me.

[Con]

I voted not sure,
As i think maybe it should be implemeted into the "bullying rules"

But if someone is just pointing out things like
"You spelt because wrong"
That, Is fine.
But if someone says
"You have the grammer of a 3 year old"
That is bullying, in a way

[samsaBEAR]

i just think text speak should be banned from the forum
it is un-needed. i know of no character limit on one post, so its not like you have to condense what you are saying, and it just looks stupid. and for those of us who do have more than 10 brain cells, it can be hard to understand. i know i have some problems when it comes to deciphering it

[GommeInc]

It's pointless posting in my eyes, so it could fit under that?

[Thetan]

Your garden is overgrown and your cucumbers are soft!



See, that could be used as an insult too. Doesn't mean its harmful. I don't like the idea of adding new rules, its too messed up and complicated as it is. But I do agree, grammar police are annoying.

[Catzsy]

I voted not sure,
As i think maybe it should be implemeted into the "bullying rules"

But if someone is just pointing out things like
"You spelt because wrong"
That, Is fine.
But if someone says
"You have the grammer of a 3 year old"
That is bullying, in a way

I agree and I feel it is demeaning to the member. This isn't school. Sure you can't use text talk there but this is an online forum where people hopefully like to be free of the grammar rules.

[GommeInc]

Net and text speak should be allowed, this is an online forum and people our age do talk like that online, obviously not to the extremes where it is unreadable. As long as the common net/text words are used then it should be fine. As Catzsy said, this isn't school, you would think an online forum would be an excuse to escape it for interesting discussions amoungst people roughly the same age. It's like the moderators/management's reason behind users not allowed to say "stupid," "idiot," "moron," "imbesile," "twit," "dick," "*****," "piss," "arse," "***" and a hundred other acceptable words in teen culture, but not allowed in school. A quick news flash to that reasoning, this isn't school and the management, nor the moderators are NOT teachers, they're teenagers just like the rest of us, which is what they should be aiming to be. Nothing is more frustrating than people pretending to be something they're not.

[leah]

tbh it is annoying when know it alls correct your spelling and judge you on spelling mistakes, I agree to an extent, but i dont think they should be punished.

[The Professor]

IMPO, it comes under "trolling" because it contributes nothing to the thread and is only there to start arguments. Trolling is an instantly punishable offence by way of caution/banning, so creating another rule wouldn't really serve to do much

[GommeInc]

I like how 'trolling' is now the big word. Trolling is looking for an argument without reason. Telling someone they've spelt words wrong or have terrible grammar isn't trolling, it's just rudeness really and the main point which shows it isn't trolling is because it draws information from a reply by another members. Trolling is making an argument out of thin air with little relevance, as stated below..."/

Trolling:

Deliberately posting false information in order to elicit responses from people who really want to help. A typical response might be, "No, Bart Simpson was NOT one of our founding fathers."

Deliberately provoking arguments on newsgroups or bulletin boards, with no other intent than to gain attention for the sake of attention.

To deliberately post false or controversial messages to gain attention for the sake of attention, usually from people who genuinely want to help. The act of posting false messages is called trolling.

[Catzsy]

I like how 'trolling' is now the big word. Trolling is looking for an argument without reason. Telling someone they've spelt words wrong or have terrible grammar isn't trolling, it's just rudeness really and the main point which shows it isn't trolling is because it draws information from a reply by another members. Trolling is making an argument out of thin air with little relevance, as stated below..."/

Trolling:

Deliberately posting false information in order to elicit responses from people who really want to help. A typical response might be, "No, Bart Simpson was NOT one of our founding fathers."

Deliberately provoking arguments on newsgroups or bulletin boards, with no other intent than to gain attention for the sake of attention.

To deliberately post false or controversial messages to gain attention for the sake of attention, usually from people who genuinely want to help. The act of posting false messages is called trolling.

I have to agree here - there is a great deal of difference between this and 'Trolling'.

[Jay.]

We don't need ANOTHER rule.

[o.o]

[The Professor]

Hi,

I think we should have a new rule stating that people cannot post commenting on other people spelling/grammars mistakes made in the post. In retrospec its a form of bullying if you keep posting postituantly about that person saying "Ow you cant even speak english" , "You have grammar of a 3 year old", that is all forms of bullying. Also some people cant help there spelling and grammar becuase of things like disletcia and other things. Also, the people commenting with theese comments seem to do this is alot of threads trying to cause arguments within the thread and attacking the person who created the thread.


IMPO, it comes under "trolling" because it contributes nothing to the thread and is only there to start arguments.

The parts in bold back up the point. Rarely, if ever, does someone comment on spelling without the intention to cause or continue an argument. It is often used when a person has been defeated in a logical argument and wants to find a way to carry it on to save themselves from looking like they've been beaten.

I'd also like to include one of Gomme's definitions to back up my point:


Deliberately provoking arguments on newsgroups or bulletin boards, with no other intent than to gain attention for the sake of attention.

[shizzle]

Yeah it is annoying and some people actually say other people have bad grammar and they are bad at it themselves.

[The Professor]

Yeah it is annoying and some people actually say other people have bad grammar and they are bad at it themselves.

Personally I just find that more ironically funny than offensive :P

[Catzsy]

Personally I just find that more ironically funny than offensive :P

Definitely agree with this. They make themselves look very silly. :P

[Metric1]

Hi,

I think we should have a new rule stating that people can’t make posts commenting on other peoples spelling and grammar mistakes. In retrospect it’s a form of bullying and if you keep posting negatively about that person saying "Oh you can’t even speak English" or "You have the grammar skills of a 3 year old", those are all forms of bullying. Some people can’t help their spelling and grammar because of things like dyslexia and other learning disabilities. Also, the people responding with these negative comments seem to start arguments within the thread, attacking the creator.

What are your comments on this?

I can't help it; I could hardly understand what he had written. It may not be perfect, but it's a lot better than it was before.

[Catzsy]

Hi,

I think we should have a new rule stating that people can’t make posts commenting on other peoples spelling and grammar mistakes. In retrospect it’s a form of bullying and if you keep posting negatively about that person saying "Oh you can’t even speak English" or "You have the grammar skills of a 3 year old", those are all forms of bullying. Some people can’t help their spelling and grammar because of things like dyslexia and other learning disabilities. Also, the people responding with these negative comments seem to start arguments within the thread, attacking the creator.

What are your comments on this?

I can't help it; I could hardly understand what he had written. It may not be perfect, but it's a lot better than it was before.


I don't really understand your post. It may be me being a tad thick but could you explain a bit more? :)

[Metric1]

I don't really understand your post. It may be me being a tad thick but could you explain a bit more? :)

We should have a new rule about the correcting of spelling and gramatical errors by another member within a thread or post.

[Catzsy]

We should have a new rule about the correcting of spelling and gramatical errors by another member within a thread or post.

Okay well I think if somebody is always correcting somebody's grammar they are essentially baiting somebody so that is covered. Also there is a rule about insulting people which also covers it but I feel this thread is important because it has highlighted a problem that some members may just be 'suffering' in silence about it. :)

[bo$$]

no .

[FlyingJesus]

Didn't read thread blah blah blah but yeah I voted no because it's not something you should actually legislate, just have it discouraged. People already think that saying it is stupid, so making people feel stupid for saying it to someone else is a much better deterrent than a warning

[Titch]

Thanks for the replies everyone! Especially Catzy! I wasnt trying to paticually say about making it a rule, i just was trying to make the fact highlighted we HAVE a problem with this on the forum and that somthing needs sorting about it.

Titch x