What do you think of satanism?

[Breakfloor]

what do you think it is? what do you think its about? and what are your views on it?

[-Xiangu-]

I think it's aload of bullcrap.

[Fehm]

In my opinion, Everyones differnt, and therefore have different beliefs. So.. Its up to the person. and i feel that -Xiangu's comment was out of order. Isnt satanism about the trial of god? Wether there is a good, fighting against a god? I'll look into it but rememeber we shouldnt judge someone on there beliefs! Unless they kill people for it, then thats just out of order.

[-Xiangu-]

I was talking about the more intense beleivers who do rituals and animal sacrifices and can include ritualistic ************. Sick tbh.

[Bun]

I think religion in general is ridiculous. I might sound like a stuck up fool but one of the main arguments for religion is everyone is allowed their opinions - if so, then I am allowed mine :).

[iknowkungfu]

i've got no idea what it is but if it's religion it's blatantly ********.

[Breakfloor]

xiangu, satanists dont worship the devil or sacrifice animals, search Peter H gilmore or anton szandor levay to learn me.

its not a religion its a philosophy. we dont worship anything other than ourselves. i am my god.

wikipedia church of satan or anton szandor LaVey or satanism and learn a little bit more before you post.

edit: we just beleive all religions are bull and that there is no afterlife or spiritual bull****. we beleive that now is the time to live and be free instead of wasting our lives having no fun and doing what we want when we feel like it.

[Virgin Mary]

Satanism is most atheists.

[Breakfloor]

no, satanism is made up of satanists but most of them were once upon a time an athiest.

[Virgin Mary]

Yeah but most atheists fit the description, always forcing their beliefs onto others!!!!

[Breakfloor]

we are totally different.

if you beleive in god and force god down my throat, i will force my fist down your throat.

i am god, you are your god. there is no supreme being.

[Virgin Mary]

What if someone forces a penis down your throat?

[GommeInc]

I remember a video on YouTube where a woman says all atheists are satanists. Atheists are not satanists... It contradicts the meaning of atheism... Silly american :P

I just think of it as another religion like christianity, hinduism etc, but not in the same main stream like the others, it's normally got a negative factor labelled on it, while the others are seen as positive factors.


What if someone forces a penis down your throat?
Isn't that rape? Or is there a religion called rapism?

[Breakfloor]

i think she got it the wrong way round i think she ment athiest are satanist satnists arent athiests but that still makes no sence.

its not a religion its philosophy.

[Virgin Mary]

It's called goth.

[Decode]

What if someone forces a penis down your throat?
do you swallow?

[Breakfloor]

virgin mary, alot of the people in our "religion" are goths. but goth is a label. this is a philosophy and a way of life.

[Plux]

Satanism, is best described as Atheism, as they both follow the same concept. You do not believe God, you believe in yourself.

BreakFloor, no idea to act like you have testicles just to compare.
Satanism, is the closest comparison to Atheism, but if you want to fully
understand Satanism, it is sacrifices etc.

[mantora]

I think religion in general is ridiculous. I might sound like a stuck up fool but one of the main arguments for religion is everyone is allowed their opinions - if so, then I am allowed mine :).


Well sad

[Havoline]

There obviously is a god, how else would there be all these stories about Jesus and how was the Earth made? This one dude living in a little cottage make it all up? ;)

[IamNiall]

xiangu, satanists dont worship the devil or sacrifice animals, search Peter H gilmore or anton szandor levay to learn me.

its not a religion its a philosophy. we dont worship anything other than ourselves. i am my god.

wikipedia church of satan or anton szandor LaVey or satanism and learn a little bit more before you post.

edit: we just beleive all religions are bull and that there is no afterlife or spiritual bull****. we beleive that now is the time to live and be free instead of wasting our lives having no fun and doing what we want when we feel like it.

So basically you are a stuck up arrogant little *******?

You can't do what you feel like, it's just impossible in todays society.

[ToxicPaddy]

I think religion in general is ridiculous. I might sound like a stuck up fool but one of the main arguments for religion is everyone is allowed their opinions - if so, then I am allowed mine :).

Although I'm catholic, I have to say thank you for starting that with I THINK. There's too many people saying something like 'Religion is ****' but what they should say is 'I THINK Religion is ****.' Just because they believe that its wrong, doesn't make that true.

[Breakfloor]

Satanism, is best described as Atheism, as they both follow the same concept. You do not believe God, you believe in yourself.

BreakFloor, no idea to act like you have testicles just to compare.
Satanism, is the closest comparison to Atheism, but if you want to fully
understand Satanism, it is sacrifices etc.

no, sacrifices is devil worship NOT satanism.

and yes it can be compared to athiesm but theyre two totally different ways of living.

@ paul

its frowned upon in todays society, doesnt mean i cant do it.

if i want to waste all my money on **** i dont need, i will.
if i dont like what your saying, ill **** off.
if your boring me, ill ditch you.

if i want to do it, the chances are.. i will.

[-Liam]

I believe religion is false, but i believe Breakfloor is being quite arrogant :|.

[Breakfloor]

how am i being arrogant, please tell me..

what we have been portrayed to be is totally false. we are as clean and as normal as any other religion without what i beleive to be rubbish.

Anthon Szandor LaVey made this religion because he saw men going out getting drunk and doing something they regret, going and praying for forgiveness and doing it again the next weekend.

[IamNiall]

no, sacrifices is devil worship NOT satanism.

and yes it can be compared to athiesm but theyre two totally different ways of living.

@ paul

its frowned upon in todays society, doesnt mean i cant do it.

if i want to waste all my money on **** i dont need, i will.
if i dont like what your saying, ill **** off.
if your boring me, ill ditch you.

if i want to do it, the chances are.. i will.

And you're asking how you're arrogant? ;ll

[Breakfloor]

thats not being arrogant, thats just my choices and part of my religion.

[IamNiall]

thats not being arrogant, thats just my choices and part of my religion.

No that's called exploiting a religion to do what you like.

[Breakfloor]

no, it isnt. it states int he satanists bible, do what you want, when you want.

[Dan2nd]

I'm a christian and I beleve in God, I'm not really sure what satanism really involves but if people worship it and its not harming anyone who are we to judge?

[Breakfloor]

thank you dan, there are alot of christians who hate and abuse us because we beleive there is no god and no after life.

the christian and catholic church has portrayed us to be devil worshippers. we dont sacrafice, we have rituals but its not stand around a huge stone humming while the ring leader cuts a pigs throat bla bla bla

it involves basically me doing what i want, when i feel like it.

not like childish I WANT TO SO IM GOING TO, if you challenge me and tell me i cant, ill try my hardest to prove you wrong.
if i feel like buying something, i will

and most of all, i really dont care what people think or have to say about me.

we worship ourselves as our godand follow the 11 satanic rules and they are 9 satanic sins. but the sins are just things that annoy you really.

[Plux]

no, sacrifices is devil worship NOT satanism.

and yes it can be compared to athiesm but theyre two totally different ways of living.

@ paul

its frowned upon in todays society, doesnt mean i cant do it.

if i want to waste all my money on **** i dont need, i will.
if i dont like what your saying, ill **** off.
if your boring me, ill ditch you.

if i want to do it, the chances are.. i will.

LMAO.

Satanism is Devil Worship!
Devil = Satan idiot.

[Breakfloor]

satanism is NOT devil worship.

satan means adversary in greek.

were the adversarys.

[le harry]

Common use of the word Satanism refers to the worship of Satan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satan) as described in the Christian Bible (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Bible) or the practice of ritual magic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ritual_magic).

.......

Either way, religion is silly and it seems Satanism is your excuse to be an arrogant moron.

[Virgin Mary]

And Satan is the adversary of humans, way to be coherent.

[Hiro]

Doesn't bother me, people can go around drawing pentagrams and 666 everywhere for all I care.
Hell, I'll even join them!
I'll drink chicken's blood and everything!

[-Eyeless-]

I think satanists are really interesting... I am writing a short story including some because I love to find out about them. I hate what they stand for but they are interesting nonetheless...

[Breakfloor]

Doesn't bother me, people can go around drawing pentagrams and 666 everywhere for all I care.
Hell, I'll even join them!
I'll drink chicken's blood and everything!

we draw invented pentagrams but only in certain places.

we dont write 666 is its the supposed number of the devil and the original is 616

we dont drink chickens blood, we dont drink ANY blood. its stupid and the chances of you catching something are stupidly high.

[IamNiall]

.......

Either way, religion is silly and it seems Satanism is your excuse to be an arrogant moron.

Finally, someone sees the truth!

[FlyingJesus]

No that's called exploiting a religion to do what you like.

LaVey Satanism basically says you can do as you like anyway so it's not really exploiting the religion lol


Satanism is Devil Worship!
Devil = Satan idiot.

Nope. You're thinking Theistic Satanism, which is what most people believe it to be. Most Satanist are LaVeyans though which is actually atheistic, believing power to come from humans and the self - it's basically extreme liberalism, I think LaVey just used to image of Satan so that it would take on as a cult, because otherwise all he had going for him was that he is a liberal which isn't very exciting and wouldn't have gotten him any followers.


we draw invented pentagrams but only in certain places.

we dont write 666 is its the supposed number of the devil and the original is 616

we dont drink chickens blood, we dont drink ANY blood. its stupid and the chances of you catching something are stupidly high.

I think you yourself are confused. You're saying you're not into devil worship so you're not a Theistic Satanist, but then you say you do pentagrams etc which is unnecessary in LaVeyan Satanism because you don't need rituals or power symbols or anything if there are no gods or higher forces. You seem to be mixing the two different forms of Satanism which is what most gothy kids do, because they like the idea of Satan but won't want to admit to there being any gods.

[Hiro]

we draw invented pentagrams but only in certain places.

we dont write 666 is its the supposed number of the devil and the original is 616

we dont drink chickens blood, we dont drink ANY blood. its stupid and the chances of you catching something are stupidly high.

I was going on stereotypes and I know that the "real" number of the devil is 616, people would flame me otherwise..

[Breakfloor]

I think you yourself are confused. You're saying you're not into devil worship so you're not a Theistic Satanist, but then you say you do pentagrams etc which is unnecessary in LaVeyan Satanism because you don't need rituals or power symbols or anything if there are no gods or higher forces. You seem to be mixing the two different forms of Satanism which is what most gothy kids do, because they like the idea of Satan but won't want to admit to there being any gods.

inverted pentagrams are used in occult and black magic and "dark forces" basically magic that hasent been used by any other religion or philosophy

and the word satan in satanism is used as not the meaning of the devil but it means black magic.

but meh, are you a satanist?

[FlyingJesus]

No I'm not but I read into religions 'cause I find them interesting. Again though I say you're confused; LaVey Satanism doesn't involve black magic, as it's a denial of any higher forces. "Satan" in that instance is explained as the human will to dominate and have power and all that jazz that we're not meant to enjoy. I still think LaVey just used the term to gain occult following though, because it really has nothing to do with any form of Satan ever mentioned before him.

[Breakfloor]

FlyingJesus, you need to read the satanists bible. satanism involves alot of so called "magic"

[jessLOL]

weird.

[Sabbath]

Although I am Christian, I find Satanism interesting. From what I know, Theistic Satanism does not worship the Christian Devil, they use Satan as a word for greed, lust, whatever. They believe there is no god, and that people should do what they want, and not think they are being judged by a higher being. I personally think that if we did what we wanted, there would be no order in society. I mean if you can destroy a person if they annoy you, well thats just bad, because then we would not have people like 50 cent, and Earthquake. Oh wait.......

[Breakfloor]

Sabbath, thats LeVay satanism.

[Sabbath]

Sabbath, thats LeVay satanism.


Oh, but yeah unlike most people, I know a bit about Satanism before I disagree with it.

[FlyingJesus]

Clearly not if you don't even know what form of Satanism you're on about lol. Also I've read bits of the Satanist Bible (although I won't claim to know everything about it) and it just looked like a joke really. It was poorly written and the bits I saw were basically just taking bits from the Christian Bible and saying the exact opposite, which is partly why I think LaVey was a bell. As I've said before, the actual philosophy behind LaVeyanism is just liberalism, but he added occult stuff to it to get a following. The ideas that you follow in it aren't actually a religion at all but a political stance.

[Breakfloor]

i know it isnt a religion, its a philosophy

[Loser]

Satanism is as ridiculous as other religions.

[Breakfloor]

Explain how?

[FlyingJesus]

I suggest reading John Stuart Mill's book "On Liberty" if you're interested in this sort of viewpoint, he's an actual philosopher so it's better worded, and he states exactly how he thinks government should be run in order to allow as much personal freedom as possible (he strongly believed in individual liberty being more important than society as a whole). It's not a massive volume of **** like a lot of philosophy books either lol so it's fairly easy to digest

[Loser]

Explain how?

Religion in general defies belief as it was created originally to describe things people couldn't understand. Nowadays, we have science to provide assistance in how things came to be. I find all religions to be absurd, whether it be the belief that aliens put us here, or the belief that a higher being put us here (eg. God) - it just doesn't make sense.
I don't know how the world was created, but I will not dedicate my life to finding out, nor will I dedicate my life to worshipping whatever caused it, be it a God or something else.
The fact is, we do not know how it was created, but a large proportion of the human race finds comfort in that a God created it, and this God is always watching over us.

[FlyingJesus]

Then you haven't been reading this thread lol, LaVey Satanism doesn't have any gods.

[Breakfloor]

+rep for that comment.

read threads before you post in them instead of replying to the thread name.

[Loser]

Then you haven't been reading this thread lol, LaVey Satanism doesn't have any gods.

I haven't been reading the thread, I only joined the forum about 5 minutes before that post. And for your information, there is two forms of Satanism which believe in a God.



Theistic Satanism

Theistic Satanism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theistic_Satanism), also called Spiritual Satanism, contains several groups. Some groups consider themselves to be the true Satanists while other groups see reality as subjective and view issues such as "true & false" as the folly of zealots.

Reverse Christians

One group that falls under the definition of Theistic Satanism are called "reverse Christians"; this is sometimes used as a disparaging term by other theistic Satanists, and embraced to a lesser or greater extent by the groups given this label. Groups called "Reverse Christian" are said to practice what Christians claim Satanists do, and worship what Christians consider to be the enemy of Christ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christ) and God, basing their concept of Satan somewhat on descriptions of him in the bible (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible). Some other groups of theistic Satanists do not accept the bible as depicting the true Satan to the same degree, basing their concept of him on personal spiritual experience (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiritual_experience) and prayer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prayer).

Luciferianism

Recently developed is an offshoot of Satanism that keeps most of the tenets of Satanism, yet has more leniency to what is commonly referred to as a 'good' morality. Their view of Satan may incorporate some concepts from contemporary western religion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_religion), such as their sense of him as a father (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Father). One of these groups considers themselves to be 'Christian Satanists,' rejects the ideas of magic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_%28paranormal%29) and rituals (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ritual), and define themselves as being in the middle of LaVeyan Satanism and Christian teachings. This stance has led to their rejection from the Church of Satan.[5] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satanism#cite_note-4)

From Wikipedia.

It doesn't matter because LaVeyan Satanism is a non-religion. It's "Nine Satanic Statements" are laughable. It's literally the kind of rules I would make up in Primary school.