WWDC 08 - Conference starts at 6pm GMT.

[Josh-H]

Live updates from 6pm on these sites:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-9960064-37.html

http://www.macrumorslive.com/

AND, this one has audio but I have no idea if it will hold up :P

http://www.iphonealley.com/news/wwdc-2008-keynote-live-audio-stream

Of course, if you can't be bothered with this then you could just wait until the morning when there will be an official video on apple.com of the conference :)

Enjoy. Discuss here too what is announced to stop there being 30,000 threads about the 3G iPhone... come on :P its obviously going to be announced.

[DaveTaylor]

Well the Keynote is at 7PM

[xxMATTGxx]

Yeah can't wait.

[Josh-H]

Is it? I thought it was 6pm? Sorry.

.. EDIT: Pretty sure it's 6PM. EDIT 2: Yes it is 6pm. ;)

[DaveTaylor]

Yeah can't wait.

Matt, Mac fusion eh?

[xxMATTGxx]

Matt, Mac fusion eh?

Yeah =]

[---MAD---]

Excellent, was hoping when it was and where to watch it :).

[MrPinkPanther]

Im just waiting for the App store. Super monkey ball, yey.

[xxMATTGxx]

Im just waiting for the App store. Super monkey ball, yey.

I'm waiting for the new iPhone and many other things :D

[Nick.]

If you want to see all the latest rumours of WWDC, check on tuaw.com Usually quite awesome! MacRumours is cool too.

I can't wait!

[DaveTaylor]

Im just waiting for the App store. Super monkey ball, yey.

agreed

[Xarea]

http://s3.media.macrumorslive.com/p/f1213024818.jpg
http://s3.media.macrumorslive.com/p/f1213024818.jpg

Spotted hanging up in the WWDC main hall.... any guesses what's under it?

[-Eyeless-]

When will it be viewable on the mac site? like through RM?

[DaveTaylor]

http://s3.media.macrumorslive.com/p/f1213024818.jpg
http://s3.media.macrumorslive.com/p/f1213024818.jpg

Spotted hanging up in the WWDC main hall.... any guesses what's under it?

Matt, Fusion yes :P? or 3G iPhone

[myke]

http://s3.media.macrumorslive.com/p/f1213024818.jpg
http://s3.media.macrumorslive.com/p/f1213024818.jpg

Spotted hanging up in the WWDC main hall.... any guesses what's under it?

Me. :P

Oooo... sounds interesting, I have my live updates!!
aka MattGarner (:

considering either iPhone or iPod touch soon. :)!

[Josh-H]

When will it be viewable on the mac site? like through RM?

Usually within 3-4 hours. Best watch it tomorrow morning. As it will take FOREVER to buffer tonight.

[xxMATTGxx]

Matt, Fusion yes :P? or 3G iPhone

BOTH PLEASE :D

[Hayd93]

agreed

10:30 am Available at the launch of the App Store for $9.99.
10:29 am Sega is first up -- showing Super Monkey Ball again, but now with over 100 levels. Playing through the last world, which demonstrates how well the tilt-control works.

You dream has come true LOL

[-Eyeless-]

Usually within 3-4 hours. Best watch it tomorrow morning. As it will take FOREVER to buffer tonight.


True, ok if you post anything about it, can you put spoilers on it? So that I can watch it tomorrow :P lol Actually dw that doesn;t really make sense :)

[darkchicken101]

This is the worst Keynote ever so far. It's been an hour of demoing crappy apps.

BTW, live blogs are at:

http://live.gizmodo.com/

http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/09/steve-jobs-keynote-live-from-wwdc-2008/

http://www.macrumorslive.com/

[Jericho]

Pretty crap. No iPhone or iPod touch firmware today! :<
Gonna tune off now, watch it later. Pretty annoying tbh.

[Recursion]

Early July for 2.0.

[darkchicken101]

Apple stock has dropped more than $5 since the start of this Keynote. They better pull some new hardware out of their sleeve or this is a waste of time.

[Agnostic Bear]

Apple stock has dropped more than $5 since the start of this Keynote. They better pull some new hardware out of their sleeve or this is a waste of time.

It's just a big bunch of mac fans having a circlejerk over something not really impressive, that's what it seems like to me.

[Jericho]

Lol at the stock comment. Who gives one? Stocks always rise and drop. Get over it.

[Josh-H]

Disappointed so far.

3G iPhone surerly going to be announced soon though.

July for appstore.. I expected TODAY.

We don't care about me.com ... move on already.

[xxMATTGxx]

This is the worst Keynote ever so far. It's been an hour of demoing crappy apps.

BTW, live blogs are at:

http://live.gizmodo.com/

http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/09/steve-jobs-keynote-live-from-wwdc-2008/

http://www.macrumorslive.com/

Moaning gets you no where. I care about me.com/mobileME

[MrPinkPanther]

I now have to wait until July for Super Monkey Ball, JULY!!!! Noooooooo. you know what they should call them? Cr-apple

[Josh-H]

I now have to wait until July for Super Monkey Ball, JULY!!!! Noooooooo. you know what they should call them? Cr-apple

You know what else we could do? Think of original, funny jokes. :)

[xxMATTGxx]

I now have to wait until July for Super Monkey Ball, JULY!!!! Noooooooo. you know what they should call them? Cr-apple

You need a slap. You don't understand about anything? They are not crap they are just doing things slow. July isn't that far away to be honest.

[Jericho]

True, but the fact that they didnt give us a solid date is a bummer. But a date is near! :)

[Josh-H]

He's on about 3G now!

[MrPinkPanther]

They should have given users a taster of whats to come by releasing 5 games for the iPhone and Touch into the games section in iTunes, leep everyone waiting. OOOOOOO 3G support.

[xxMATTGxx]

iPhone 3G HERE WE COME :D:D



Apple has learned so much with the first iPhone. They have taken everything they've learned and more and created the iPhone 3G. Even thinner, black plastic back, solid metal buttons, same gorgeous display, camera, flush headphone jack, and dramatically improved audio.

[MrPinkPanther]

The worst kept secret in History?

[Josh-H]

The worst kept secret in History?

Possibly.. but that builds interest.

GPS built in!

[MrPinkPanther]

Possibly.. but that builds interest.

GPS built in!
True because 3G is pretty pointless but everyones hyped about it because its the iPhone, basically all modern phones have 3G lol.

[xxMATTGxx]

True because 3G is pretty pointless but everyones hyped about it because its the iPhone, basically all modern phones have 3G lol.

I rather buy the new iPhone then any other phone. It is also multi-touch, which you don't see on every phone today? It also runs OSX.

[Josh-H]

$199! so like £100 over here. Then... our lovely contract fees :P

[Hypertext]

Omg! Oh yes! I'm buying one as soon as I see them in a shop!

[MrPinkPanther]

I rather buy the new iPhone then any other phone. It is also multi-touch, which you don't see on every phone today? It also runs OSX.
Yeh Im not disputing that, I have an iPod touch and nearly bought an iPhone but 3G has been overhyped, 3G isnt really that great.

[Hypertext]

But the cost is.

[Recursion]

Bit more on the 3G iPhone is needed, but it looks nice, a possibility for my birthday here hehe

[Hypertext]

After lunch - Snow Leopard/

http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_iphone/family/iphone?mco=MTE2NTQ

[Recursion]

Yeh Im not disputing that, I have an iPod touch and nearly bought an iPhone but 3G has been overhyped, 3G isnt really that great.

Up to something like 4mpb/s broadband isn't great on your phone then?

[MrPinkPanther]

Up to something like 4mpb/s broadband isn't great on your phone then?
Have you ever used 3G? Its expensive, patchy and generally the download speed isnt that great. iPhones are aimed at businessmen, businessmen are in cities and towns, cities and towns have WiFi

[Hypertext]

How much will the plan cost?

[Josh-H]

Have you ever used 3G? Its expensive, patchy and generally the download speed isnt that great. iPhones are aimed at businessmen, businessmen are in cities and towns, cities and towns have WiFi

You have NO idea what you're on about.

3G is no more expensive per mb than Edge. You're still using the same amount of data.. just faster.

[---MAD---]

Up to something like 4mpb/s broadband isn't great on your phone then?
I doubt 3G goes that fast and keeps that speed (with affordable rates). The iphone has wifi so I don't see the need for 3G for teenagers/adults. Maybe it suits businessmen as they need it everywhere and all the time for email access etc although I cannot imagine a businessman carrying an iphone for some reason :P.

[Recursion]

Have you ever used 3G? Its expensive, patchy and generally the download speed isnt that great. iPhones are aimed at businessmen, businessmen are in cities and towns, cities and towns have WiFi

Funny, Look at T-Mobile's Web'n'Walk plans, it is not expensive, And actually I make use of my Web'n'Walk all the time on my phone, almost everywhere has 3G now.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3G

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSDPA

Also, I am not a businessman but I use my phone for email, internet, text, voice, games, RSS Feeds, calenders and god knows what else. :S

[Josh-H]

How much will the plan cost?
Current cheapest one is £35. I doubt this will change.

[N!ck]

3G can go pretty fast but the latency is disgusting.

[xxMATTGxx]

Actually I have used 3G. I use it all the time thanks to my T-MOBILE Contract. Once I find more information on the pricing and if its "open" to more "networks" Then I shall be getting one :D

[DaveTaylor]

mehh to be honest it's not a great update for me, as mattgarner knows where i live and its rural so ye lol, however i want firmware!

[Recursion]

Yeh, if its on T-Mobile I will be upgrading my Phone, Web'n'Walk is amazing with 3G hehehe

[MrPinkPanther]

You have NO idea what you're on about.

3G is no more expensive per mb than Edge. You're still using the same amount of data.. just faster.
Ive never used edge and dont intend too, but if its the same price as 3G then its a rip off. Dont say I dont have any idea what I'm on about because I currently own 2 Phones both of which are 3G enabled, 3G is expensive and patchy and I live in the middle of a town with 200,000 odd people in it.


Funny, Look at T-Mobile's Web'n'Walk plans, it is not expensive, And actually I make use of my Web'n'Walk all the time on my phone, almost everywhere has 3G now.
Sorry is the iPhone on T-Mobile? I was under the illusion it was only available legally on O2 who are really expensive.

[Recursion]

:| You are very far behind on the iPhone scene.

They plan to spread the iPhone to all networks.

I use 3G all the time, not expensive if your on a data plan like me, not patchy for me and im in a small town, hell even where I live has 3G (countryside).

[Hypertext]

If they have a different network it will be in addition to, I just called AT&T she was all moody saying I was lying about it being released then she admitted they talked to her about software updates regarding 3g the day before.

[xxMATTGxx]

If they have a different network it will be in addition to, I just called AT&T she was all moody saying I was lying about it being released then she admitted they talked to her about software updates regarding 3g the day before.

You and phoning people. <_< You won't get much information as its only been announced.

[Recursion]

It was announced like 30 mins ago sheesh!

[xxMATTGxx]

Just to let you all know.

iPhone 3G is exclusive to O2. It be pay monthly (contract) and also pay as you go.


iPhone is now free on selected Pay Monthly tariffs*

There's only one thing better than an iPhone. The new 3G iPhone.

*Best of all, the new 8GB iPhone won't cost you a penny on our £45 and £75 tariffs. And it's just £99 on our £35 tariff and new £30 tariff.

All tariffs include unlimited browsing on your iPhone, unlimited Wi-Fi access, visual voicemail and reduced roaming rates with our International Traveller Service and are subject to a minimum term contract of 18 months.

More information on the new iPhone will be available shortly so come back in a few days or visit www.apple.com


iPhone is coming soon for Pay & Go

Customers will soon be able to enjoy all the great features of iPhone without a monthly contract with the iPhone for Pay & Go.

Just register your interest opposite and we'll drop you a line in early July to tell you what you need to do to be one of the first to get your hands on the new 3G iPhone.

More information on the new iPhone will be available shortly so come back in a few days or visit www.apple.com

[Josh-H]

Just to let you all know.

iPhone 3G is exclusive to O2. It be pay monthly (contract) and also pay as you go.

Yay for £30 contract :)

That's where I'm going.

You think I'm going to have to camp out all night to get one :\?

[Wootzeh]

Hmmmm, new Iphone really is tempting at £100.

[MrPinkPanther]

:| You are very far behind on the iPhone scene.

They plan to spread the iPhone to all networks.

I use 3G all the time, not expensive if your on a data plan like me, not patchy for me and im in a small town, hell even where I live has 3G (countryside).

Not in the UK, o2 is expensive and has awful coverage. Also the fact that 3G is '3.6x' faster than edge is the extreme of it for apple to try to prove something. On o2 3G coverage is only in towns really (I would know I'm on o2), WiFi is much faster.

[Hypertext]

the iPhone has gone down on at&t... and no pr yet.

[Jericho]

Beathost, Tom is right, they are trying to spread to all networks. In many countrys the iPhone is available on numerous networks. Its juts a matter of time.

And Matt, although I totally trust you, could you post A link to where you got them bits of info about PAYG iPhones?

And wow, this MobileMe is so tempting. Althought the speeds will still suck like .mac's did.. (mind you, i have been wrong abotu apple before). Im getting this for sure.

And the other good news, 5 quid iPod update! :)

Edit. Found link, well done Matt! :)
http://www.o2.co.uk/iphone/paygo
Theres my Birthday sorted (MobileMe) and Christmas (iPhone!) sorted! :)

[xxMATTGxx]

The £30 contract for the iPhone is a rip off. I mean you seen the amount of texts and calls? Although you do get Unlimited Data & Wi-Fi. But I pay £30 for £90 allowance with web n walk on T-MOBILE. Oh well, I do want an iphone and if its O2 i have to go with, then it will have to do :D

[MrPinkPanther]

Beathost, Tom is right, they are trying to spread to all networks. In many countrys the iPhone is available on numerous networks. Its juts a matter of time.
Link? They signed a contract with o2 giving them exclusive rights to the iPhone in the UK. Just because they have in other countries it doesnt mean they will here.

[Recursion]

They signed the exclusive rights only for the original iPhone, not necessarily future iPhones such as the iPhone 3G.

[xxMATTGxx]

They signed the exclusive rights only for the original iPhone, not necessarily future iPhones such as the iPhone 3G.

Right...

http://i27.tinypic.com/zilsf6.png

Image says it all.

[Recursion]

Okay..?

[Chickenblob]

Dunno about anyone else but I was hoping for a new Mac Mini or a similar product to compensate it if the Mac Mini product line ends.

[Jam]

I just watched the entire iPhone section (in HiDef) and 3G, 2.0 and SDK seem all pretty cool.