When I Grow Up

[stickwitu]

http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=H1IBIHXL2rk

Their best video so far.

[N-Dubz]

no britney :@

[risque]

no britney :@

She would have made the video 10x better.

[stickwitu]

Wouldn't go that far, she'd have probably ran over Nicole's foot :rolleyes:

[risque]

Oh god yeah, and we don't want that do we? We wouldn't want her making as poor of a noise as she did at the MTV Movie awards, would we? Forgive me for not thinking ahead.

[N-Dubz]

er?
You seem to slate the lead singer of PCD alot but yeah you like PCD..
yeah that makes sense because if you hated her voice that much you wouldnt listen at all.

An Britney being in the video wouldnt be that amazing.

[stickwitu]

Oh don't bother starting again, all you seem to do is want to start an argument. The video wouldn't have been x10 better if Britney was there, but it'd have been nice to see her get back on track and prove that to the media and world. You make it sound as if the video is crap because she isn't in it when that's a long way from the truth..

And watch back the MTV performance because there were no vocal problems in my opinion, but then again she isn't Leona so obviously there were!! !:rolleyes:

[risque]

er?
You seem to slate the lead singer of PCD alot but yeah you like PCD..
yeah that makes sense because if you hated her voice that much you wouldnt listen at all.

An Britney being in the video wouldnt be that amazing.

I like Melody, I don't like the group. You seem to pluck up false accusations all the time.


Oh don't bother starting again, all you seem to do is want to start an argument. The video wouldn't have been x10 better if Britney was there, but it'd have been nice to see her get back on track and prove that to the media and world. You make it sound as if the video is crap because she isn't in it when that's a long way from the truth..

And watch back the MTV performance because there were no vocal problems in my opinion, but then again she isn't Leona so obviously there were!! !:rolleyes:

I don't just want to start an argument, but believe what you believe. You saying I think there were vocal problems because she wasn't Leona and again, you saying there weren't problems (as you're a huge fan) is kind of a pointless argument to make, don't you think?

[stickwitu]

No, not at all.
I stated that because IN YOUR OPINION it's likely you'll find there to be vocal problems because she's not LEONA, yet in mine and I think in many people's eyes there weren't vocal problems at all.

[risque]

No, not at all.
I stated that because IN YOUR OPINION it's likely you'll find there to be vocal problems because she's not LEONA, yet in mine and I think in many people's eyes there weren't vocal problems at all.

Beyonce isn't Leona, I don't like her, but I don't always see vocal problems when she's performing. Stop trying to portray me as the bad guy, because I'm not. I thought there were vocal problems because she sounded screechy and the highnotes she put in weren't so "hot".

[N-Dubz]

if you dont like PCD, dont listen to them?
Just go listen to Melody's song with Jibbs over and over again.

[stickwitu]

Well you obviously are the bad guy when you turn every conversation into an argument, totally regardless of other people's musical preferences.

To put on a good performance you don't need to hit every exact note anyway, that's not what performing is about. You aim to put on a good show - and that's what they did.

Vocally, choreographically and in all it was a strong performance.

[risque]

if you dont like PCD, dont listen to them?
Just go listen to Melody's song with Jibbs over and over again.
I was watching the Movie Awards, I wasn't intentionally listening to them.


Well you obviously are the bad guy when you turn every conversation into an argument, totally regardless of other people's musical preferences.

To put on a good performance you don't need to hit every exact note anyway, that's not what performing is about. You aim to put on a good show - and that's what they did.

Vocally, choreographically and in all it was a strong performance.

When I feel as if somebody is making a mockery out of something, I have a right to argue back. I don't disregard other peoples' music preferences, I challenge people when they think that theirs are more successful, and better than my preferred choices. It's not hard to understand. The point is, is that Nicole could have made that a good performance if she wasn't trying to showcase the amazing high/power note ability that she doesn't have. She's always trying to out-do the rest of the girls in the band, and for what? Her solo career went down the drain and to massage her severely bruised ego she had to rejoin with the dolls. She should give them more of a chance because chances are, they won't mess it up.

I'm sorry if I offend you with my views, but it's how I get my points and message across. It's how it's always been.

[N-Dubz]

Did her album even come out yet?

"however a recent interview with Robin Antin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robin_Antin) confirmed that the second *****cat Dolls (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/*****cat_Dolls) album will be released first, followed by a revised solo album from Scherzinger."

So couldnt she have done her solo album first and if it flopped gone back to the cats, in right mind I think she put them first.

[risque]

She released singles from her album. They flopped. End of story.

[stickwitu]

She doesn't try to outdo the other members - she is PAID to do that. She's the lead singer and that's her job. Of course she's going to outshine Melody and even I have a few issues about that but that's regardless.

Yeah and her solo career may have mucked up but that was down not only to poor management but also the actual material released. True it was an embarassment but for her AND her label, and she rejoined the dolls because she's contractually obliged too. Her, Melody and Carmit have all solo deals with Interscope, Carmit's even starting her's now..

I don't see how my comments made a mockery of yours when you were to quick to snap about Nicole's vocals when the comment was based on Britney and CLEARLY a joke anyway. I'm a Britney fan for gods sake and then you go using that as your defense for insulting Nicole. Hmm.. very valid.

[risque]

You were still mocking her, as a fan or not as a fan. I felt it was an attack on her so I retalliated, suit yourself and believe what you want but I'm not out to persistantly argue with you. The argument we had yesterday was yesterday, it needs to be gotten over.

[stickwitu]

Mocking her? That is mocking her? Barely.
You don't retaliate, you go the whole 9 yards and aim for war :rolleyes:
There's a thing called being TOO defensive, and for me that's exactly what you are.

And I'm not getting over an argument when you persist on trying to cause more at every opportunity you can with me. So what? I don't love Leona and I disagree on some of your views, I'm more likely to agree with you on a lot more and you'd see that if you weren't so busy trying to bite my head off.

[risque]

Mocking her? That is mocking her? Barely.
You don't retaliate, you go the whole 9 yards and aim for war :rolleyes:
There's a thing called being TOO defensive, and for me that's exactly what you are.

And I'm not getting over an argument when you persist on trying to cause more at every opportunity you can with me. So what? I don't love Leona and I disagree on some of your views, I'm more likely to agree with you on a lot more and you'd see that if you weren't so busy trying to bite my head off.

I really don't. It's just retalliation, but maybe I just take a different approach to retalliation and defence. Again, I'm not trying to argue with you intentionally, I argue over things that I feel I want/need to argue over, the MJ thread for example. I made a comment in this thread saying the video would have been 10x better if Britney had had her cameo appearance, but you made a sly dig which wasn't really called for but I dealt with it in the manner I felt was necessary, by retalliating with one of my own.

I agree about agreeing more than disagreeing, but everybody has their disagreements. These are ours, it hasn't stopped me agreeing with you in the past and it won't in the future. I'm not as vindictive as you & N-Dubz are making me out to be.

[MJJ]

I can't get that song out of my head now. :P
The video was good as well.

[le harry]

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