Will Windows 7 be good or bad? Your Opinions.

[Boonzeet]

Do you think Windows 7 will be good, or bad?

This is a screenshot of one of the earliest builds of Windows 7:
http://fc05.deviantart.com/fs26/f/2008/169/f/a/Windows_Seven_M1_desk_by_fediaFedia.jpg

And heres a link to page containing a video where they show off the new features from the 2nd build:
http://www.istartedsomething.com/20080529/evolution-of-taskbar-windows-7/

Also an accidental screenshot from microsoft on one survey:
http://www.istartedsomething.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/start-menu-search-box.jpg

Anyway, what do you think? I think I won't get it; paint will be crap if it's a touchscreen PC.

[GommeInc]

Too early to judge really "/

[Leetzgirl]

Heard of vista?

Abit to early to judge lol

[Recursion]

Its coming out in 2010, well, planned at least. And the UI WILL be changing.

[reeana]

What will happen to Habbo?

[Stephen!]

What will happen to Habbo?

..Nothing

[Charlie]

Looks like vista? :S

[Leetzgirl]

The way it run is tottaly different to vista :p

[Monopoly]

It will be eveything Vista and Long-Horn were ment to be. :)
Well that's what people are saying anyway.

[Recursion]

Does anyone actually read my posts?

The UI will be changed, they always use the previous window's UI in the early BETAs

[Monopoly]

Does anyone actually read my posts?

The UI will be changed, they always use the previous window's UI in the early BETAs

I read somewhere that the UI wouldn't have any dramatic changes as they're concentrating more on fixing the way things work etc?
I may be completely wrong but yaknow...

[Stevehere]

Do you think Windows 7 will be good, or bad?

This is a screenshot of one of the earliest builds of Windows 7:
http://fc05.deviantart.com/fs26/f/2008/169/f/a/Windows_Seven_M1_desk_by_fediaFedia.jpg

And heres a link to page containing a video where they show off the new features from the 2nd build:
http://www.istartedsomething.com/20080529/evolution-of-taskbar-windows-7/

Also an accidental screenshot from microsoft on one survey:
http://www.istartedsomething.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/start-menu-search-box.jpg

Anyway, what do you think? I think I won't get it; paint will be crap if it's a touchscreen PC.

lol at first I was thinking (at the survey accidental whatever) that vista already got the search bar so I was like WTH.. But then I looked down. lol.

[Agnostic Bear]

You know it's gonna be good as Microsoft will spend like 11 trillion dollars fixing the mistakes they made with vista.

[HotelUser]

This shouldn't have been posted, seeing as its much too early to determine whether or not the product will be good.

[Misawa]

2010 is too early for yet another Vista, most people don't even have bloody Vista.

[Monkwrestler]

They should make there current product decent rather than burry their head in the sand and hope it will all go away

[Recursion]

Vista is decent, its just the people who say it isn't don't have a clue what they are talking about and read all these hate posts on the internet.

Vista is actually very good.

[AgnesIO]

Vista is decent, its just the people who say it isn't don't have a clue what they are talking about and read all these hate posts on the internet.

Vista is actually very good.

I heard loads of hate things on the internet then my (75) year old granfather bought a laptop, and vista is actually good!

I cannot remember or not now, but I am sure the back buttosn (Like on ie7) are not on vista?

[Jordy]

I heard loads of hate things on the internet then my (75) year old granfather bought a laptop, and vista is actually good!

I cannot remember or not now, but I am sure the back buttosn (Like on ie7) are not on vista?I'm afraid my back button has always been going strong on IE.

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/1333/backbuttonwk6.png

[AgnesIO]

I'm afraid my back button has always been going strong on IE.

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/1333/backbuttonwk6.png


I was referring to like on the control panel.

[Josh-H]

This is a stupid thread, it won't be out for 2 years and we haven't seen hardly any of it at the moment.

I also think that people are against vista because its now the common thing to do... I don't see how it is that much WORSE than XP? Yes it has higher system requirements but XP had much higher requirements than Windows 98 and 2000. Everyone complained then too but finally accepted it.

[Agnostic Bear]

Apparently none of you know is that Windows 7 is the Vista kernel, just being built up on with all the errors fixed.

What Windows does is raise the system requirements forcing manufacturers to speed up processors and release higher specs, thus giving you faster PC's and more hardware to play with, if anything you should be thankful for Vista.

[HotelUser]

Vista is decent, its just the people who say it isn't don't have a clue what they are talking about and read all these hate posts on the internet.

Vista is actually very good.

You say whenever someone doesn't like it that they don't have any idea what they're talking about, that's not true, some of us have genuine reasons for not liking the OS. I don't like Vista because I think it's a resource eater, and it overall incompatible with a great deal of things.

[Boonzeet]

It turns out that the Windows Sidebar is going to be built in to the system, rather then being a program. Also; I really think that it's too soon for them to make another operating system while loads of people don't have vista yet (not that I would want it, it's really unstable).

Here's a few more screenshots found of it:
http://www.thevista.ru/files/images/articles/win7m1r2/mycomputer1.png
http://www.thevista.ru/files/images/articles/win7m1r2/explorerdoc1.png
http://www.thevista.ru/files/images/articles/win7m1r2/healthcenter1.png
http://www.thevista.ru/files/images/articles/win7m1r2/startmenu1.png

http://www.thevista.ru/files/images/articles/win7m1_review/m1_new/controlpfull.png
http://www.thevista.ru/files/images/articles/win7m1_review/sysabout.jpg
http://www.thevista.ru/files/images/articles/win7m1_review/welcomcenter.jpg
http://www.thevista.ru/files/images/articles/win7m1_review/m1_new/controlpfull.png
http://www.thevista.ru/files/images/articles/win7m1_review/m1_new/gadgets.png


Most of which from http://www.thevista.ru (russian).

Meh, I don't see the point of it, it's not really different to vista. I like this feature:
http://www.thevista.ru/files/images/articles/win7m1r2/systraywarning1.png
http://www.thevista.ru/files/images/articles/win7m1r2/systraywarningclick1.png

On the right of the taskbar, there is a lighter patch. I wonder what that's for?

It's more then a kernel - Julie Larson Green was pointing out the touchscreen features and the taskbar caught someones eye (not to mention the fact that it is touchscreen too):
http://www.istartedsomething.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/windows7taskbar.jpg

They now say it's a cheaper, more compact version of the 10,000 pound table thing. "Microsoft Surface".

[CurtisKenny]

i actually think windows 7 will be decent


as for some posts in here, i hate how people hate vista so much. they are usually people that know nothing about the OS itself.

I had an argument with my friend at school, he heard so much bad stuff about vista he had actually decided that xp was better without vista, although he hadnt used vista before... (what a douche!)

As i say, people who hate vista havent used vista or just dont know how to use all the features yet.

People say that no programs work with vista, the drivers dont work. rubbish. I can get any driver i want for my pre-vista mobo/gfx card (and that was within 6 months of having vista when it first came out)

&&&& whoever said that there wasnt a back button in ctrl panel before:

http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/1084/backbuttonoa3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


Moving on...

Im hoping windows 7 will carry on from vista actually because i really like the OS. Theres admittedly a few things that could be tweaked, but i would like to see a full 64 bit os, forcing bloody software dev's to make their products 64-bit compatible

I got so annoyed i reverted from 64 bit to 32 bit

[Leetzgirl]

You say whenever someone doesn't like it that they don't have any idea what they're talking about, that's not true, some of us have genuine reasons for not liking the OS. I don't like Vista because I think it's a resource eater, and it overall incompatible with a great deal of things.


Yeh so is XP, and so is windows 2000 :rolleyes:.

[Boonzeet]

I have to agree about the points made mostly here; although it might be less then two years, they haven't given a proper release date yet (I think).

http://whatsnext.ru/files/articles/reviews/windows_7_6519/09.png

[Recursion]

I've deffo got a back button in control panel etc... :|

[Jahova]

Sounds good but will it perform?
We will have to wait and find out..

[Aces]

It's too early to judge, give it time.

[HotelUser]

It's too early to judge, give it time.
Exactly.



Yeh so is XP, and so is windows 2000 :rolleyes:.
When I used XP in 2002 I could justify it because I had upgraded from Windows 98. The features available in XP compared to the features in 98 were worth the extra required resources at the time, and now it's not a problem at all. With Vista it seems that I'm needing even more, and waiting even longer. Vista does have some handy features, but to me it's not worth the extra requirements at the moment. Perhaps a few service packs later (and some updated drives, more compatible applications) and I'll start to support Vista. It's all personal opinion, you have your opinion on what you like to use and I have my opinion on what I like to use.

[Recursion]

You say whenever someone doesn't like it that they don't have any idea what they're talking about, that's not true, some of us have genuine reasons for not liking the OS. I don't like Vista because I think it's a resource eater, and it overall incompatible with a great deal of things.

If the resources are there and not being used, whats the problem? :/

[Jordy]

Any programme's which aren't compatible with Vista now will probably never be.

[Decode]

I think it will be ok, its ment to be what vista was ment to be. I saw a video of someone using the toutch screen fearures and that was very impresive, but the new start bar looks crap :(


What will happen to Habbo?
Nothing :S

[Agnostic Bear]

Alot of people seemingly don't realise Vista uses memory management better than any other Windows OS, it takes up more RAM when it's free to do stuff faster, and slices away that RAM to give to other applications if they need it more / a new application starts. Vista doesn't use much RAM atall if you don't have much RAM. OS X is also a RAM hog.

[HotelUser]

If the resources are there and not being used, whats the problem? :/

Incompatibility is more important than resources, and it hurts when I'm playing games. It's like saying, "well the money's there, why not spend it?" why not safe the money. It's using the resources for the sake of using the resources. "Oo my start button is transparent until I maximize a window!" The Aero Experience isn't worth it for me. If I like what Vista looks like I'll get a free XP skin, put a vorb program on for the nice little orb start button, stick Windows/Google Desktop Search on, and get vistart (if I wanted to go into further detail with this I could also get the icons and tray icons etc). It would be free and make XP look like Vista, only it would be compatible with what I do. As I've said it's all about opinion, my opinion is that I prefer XP over Vista, I've given both OS a fair try. You're not going to magically change my mind about Vista with a few words:P. Microsoft will have to change my opinion when SP2 is released.

[Recursion]

It is using the resources to optimize applications and it self. For example, you don't ever need to defrag Vista unless you turn the care services off as it does it by it self... without you knowing.

And Jewish Bear's post above is 100% correct.

[HotelUser]

It is using the resources to optimize applications and it self. For example, you don't ever need to defrag Vista unless you turn the care services off as it does it by it self... without you knowing.

And Jewish Bear's post above is 100% correct.


I don't need to defrag if I have an SSD hard drive, there's already systems with SSDs in them selling with Vista, it's getting more popular on the market, especially with portable systems. Also the Aero Expierence, the 3d switcher, and Windows Sidebar are all useless to me, though they're using resources.

[Agnostic Bear]

I don't need to defrag if I have an SSD hard drive, there's already systems with SSDs in them selling with Vista, it's getting more popular on the market, especially with portable systems. Also the Aero Expierence, the 3d switcher, and Windows Sidebar are all useless to me, though they're using resources.

Stop complaining and turn them off.

[GommeInc]

All my games from Windows ME still work on Vista. Infact, all my programs I used on XP still work, so I have no problem with compatible issues. Come to think of it, my XP and ME games work better on Vista :S

[HotelUser]

All my games from Windows ME still work on Vista. Infact, all my programs I used on XP still work, so I have no problem with compatible issues. Come to think of it, my XP and ME games work better on Vista :S

I didn't have as many problems with Vista until I tried gaming, aaaaw that wasn't fun :P. Anyhow I just noticed..my Vista rating dropped .7 points, I didn't even change the hardware :O.


Stop complaining and turn them off.

I'm not complaining? I'm saying what's true. Also Vista is impracticable for SSDs, because of the limited writes. For an ASUS 4GB SSD you only get 100,000 writes.

[Recursion]

I don't need to defrag if I have an SSD hard drive, there's already systems with SSDs in them selling with Vista, it's getting more popular on the market, especially with portable systems. Also the Aero Expierence, the 3d switcher, and Windows Sidebar are all useless to me, though they're using resources.

SSDs are actually slower and use more power, ill stick to normal HDDs thanks.

[HotelUser]

SSDs are actually slower and use more power, ill stick to normal HDDs thanks.

Do you know what an SSD is/how it functions? I suggest you see here: http://www.50leaves.com/apple/hdd-vs-sdd-speed-comparison/
SSDs are not slower, and they're better for cooling too. I'm not sure about battery life, though ASUS uses them in their UMPCs, so does OQO.

[Stephen!]

SSD's are unbelievably quick compared to HDDs..

[PreProcessor]

You can't really tell just now seeing as it hasn't been released. I will probably just stick to vista and wait for it to drop in price or buy a pc with the OS on it.

[N!ck]

Do you know what an SSD is/how it functions? I suggest you see here: http://www.50leaves.com/apple/hdd-vs-sdd-speed-comparison/
SSDs are not slower, and they're better for cooling too. I'm not sure about battery life, though ASUS uses them in their UMPCs, so does OQO.

Would have been better if they did a graph for price as well lol.

[HotelUser]

Would have been better if they did a graph for price as well lol.

Ah :P, the Samsung 250GB SSD (I think Samsung) is bond to be released. The prices for SSDs are going down.

[Agnostic Bear]

SSD's are basically 64 or whatever gb of ram with a sata connector :8

[Recursion]

and a limited number of writes I do believe?

[Fehm]

Lol ok :) Looks quite good tbh. I think if they change the UI's itll be alot better xD

[cocaine]

I have both XP and Vista and I'd choose vista over XP any day. The programs I have on XP are ALL compatiable, my games run far better, my programs run faster and I love the look and feel of the interface, its sleek, its smooth and it looks professional. XP did look like all that, but Vista is in a class of its own.

[Boonzeet]

Unless you apply a vista theme to XP ^^; Then it runs good and looks good.

Also, the thread is going a little off-topic XD

It's not a "fight over XP and vista" thingy, It's The Windows 7 thread :D

[Decode]

Will most computers start to come with toutch screens because Windows 7 uses it?

[Recursion]

Unless you apply a vista theme to XP ^^; Then it runs good and looks good.

Also, the thread is going a little off-topic XD

It's not a "fight over XP and vista" thingy, It's The Windows 7 thread :D

Vista runs far better than XP actually.

[alexxxxx]

my vista is terribly slow - but i think that's to do with the resources its needed. it's always taken ages to boot - ever since i bought it. Not complaining too much though. I don't use that many programs that require lots of resources.

[redtom]

Vista runs far better than XP actually.

Vista run better if you have over 1.5GB of ram or else it doesn't really make a diffrence, if you have 1GB or lower then it will be slower then xp, but most people seem to have over that now or are upgrading so it shouldn't be a problem now.

Anyhow the touch screen is nothing new, you can buy a touch screen kit from ebay for about £50 (not 100% sure on the price), what new selling features does it actualy have, other then touch screen?

Oh and finally people saying it's to earily Vista's still new! Vista was only a half way point for microsoft, its just there to raise more money in between XP and Windows 7.

[Recursion]

Get out of the past, and into the future. In the future people don't run on 1GB of RAM, they use 2GB+ :P

[Infractionized.]

I think it'll be good, seeing as their will be MS Surface Touch Technology!
Playing Tetris on the Piano, sorting out your images and more :eusa_danc:eusa_danc:eusa_danc

[HotelUser]

Vista runs far better than XP actually.

No, no that is your opinion. Not facts. My opinion is that I had a 1.8Ghz Toshiba with 1GB of RAM and it wouldn't run Firefox and MSN at the same time until I managed to get hold of an XP license.

[xxMATTGxx]

Get out of the past, and into the future. In the future people don't run on 1GB of RAM, they use 2GB+ :P

Nar they run 32GB :P

[Stephen!]

1.8Ghz Toshiba with 1GB of RAM

Well there you go.

[cocaine]

My opinion is that I had a 1.8Ghz Toshiba with 1GB of RAM and it wouldn't run Firefox and MSN at the same time

do you honestly wonder why it wont run?

[Robbie]

I run Vista on a Celeron M 430 @ 1.73Ghz, 1.5GB Ram and it is absolutely fine. Faster than XP.

[HotelUser]

do you honestly wonder why it wont run?

Keep in mind I purchased this laptop over a year ago and for $400. I use a Aspire 9410 now (Intel Duo with 2.5GB ram). But you can't say do you honestly wonder why it wont run on a 1.8Ghz processor because I would think it should have atleast ran Basic ok. If you think 1.8Ghz is bad for a processor with Vista, the HTC UMPC had 800Mhz and came with Vista Business.

[Recursion]

Vista relies on RAM, not CPU :/

[HotelUser]

Vista relies on RAM, not CPU :/
Oh so I can run Vista Premium better on a one core 800MHZ system if it had 4GB ram, better than I could run it on a Quad Core with 1GB ram:rolleyes:?

[Stephen!]

Oh so I can run Vista Premium better on a one core 800MHZ system if it had 4GB ram, better than I could run it on a Quad Core with 1GB ram:rolleyes:?

Now let's not get silly

[Hayd93]

As said vista is not CPU dependant a mate runs vista home premium on a old craptop as we call it specs are 1.2 celeron and 1.5 gb of ram and it runs pretty smooth .

As for windows 7 i know i wont buy it as many know i am a mac user lol.

[HotelUser]

I know it's not all about the processor, but it is a pretty big factor.

[Kyle!]

Expect this to be the last ever Windows OS. Microsoft is moving away from Windows and are going to start a new OS project called, "Midori". This is the change Microsoft has been needing, and until Midori is released I'm sticking to Mac OS X and Ubuntu.

[jackass]

Another 'sandbox' preview. :)

http://img282.imageshack.us/img282/8127/screenshot2ql3.png

[Jordy]

Expect this to be the last ever Windows OS. Microsoft is moving away from Windows and are going to start a new OS project called, "Midori". This is the change Microsoft has been needing, and until Midori is released I'm sticking to Mac OS X and Ubuntu.It's a good 5 years off yet I imagine. I certainly hope to get Windows 7 before Midori, Midori doesn't look like it'll suit my needs anyway, I hope they make another OS too :P

[DrLacero]

Windows 7 looks promising, then again so did Vista. The version of 7 that was released was even more resource greedy than vista (as it was actually mostly vista at this point). The best thing Ms could do would be

XP + New 7 Interface + DX10 = Yum yum yum

[Recursion]

Vista can be run on 800Mhz LOL

[Jericho]

Another 'sandbox' preview. :)

http://img282.imageshack.us/img282/8127/screenshot2ql3.png

Surely that isnt the new UI is it? Hrmph.

I will get Windows 7 to go on our family computer. I dont see a valid reason for switching permanently.

I would MS rather wait a few more years and release it, rather than rush it into stores.

[Recursion]

That isn't Windows 7 ¬_¬

[Jericho]

I presumed that was an early build of the 7 UI. My mistake :(

[Colin-Roberts]

midori is just the code name? like longhorn was for vista..

[Josh-H]

midori is just the code name? like longhorn was for vista..

Wrong. Midori is a total different project.

[Colin-Roberts]

how am i wrong? Midori is just another build of windows..

[msb.]

lol I read all posts and I now I am confused but I still think vista looks better than
windows xp

[Josh-H]

how am i wrong? Midori is just another build of windows..

No it's not. It's not based on the windows architecture AT ALL.

[Mr.OSH]

I'm pretty sure it will be better than Vista but then again you can't be totally sure as I wasn't impressed as much by Vista as I expected. I have some faith in the next version of Windows but I don't expect it to be revolutionary as Microsoft always claim.

[Colin-Roberts]

midori will still be called windows midori.. aka windows 8.. the most popular midori news site announced this long ago.

nvm the site seems to be wrong for reference.. softpedia reports differently.

[Recursion]

Exactly :P Microsoft are having a "fresh start".

[--ss--]

Might aswell just call it Vista SP2 as that's what it looks like to me?

[Recursion]

No? :|

Its a whole new OS, built entirely from scratch, MS are moving right away from Windows. That screenshot was some POS theme someone made.

[dannyboymed]

Midori isn't Windows 7, it's seperate and won't interfere with it?

I think it'll be good personally. :)

[Jam]

Vista relies on RAM, not CPU :/

Thats good, my laptop's got 4GB but only 2.1GHz.

[HotelUser]

Vista can be run on 800Mhz LOL

Technically it can be, yes. Though you would have to be a total idiot to believe it would run well, even if it had 4GB of ram.

[DrLacero]

Vista can be run on 800Mhz LOL

And XP can run on 7MHz and 20MB or RAM, it doesn't mean it'll run well.

[Recursion]

Actually, funny, because it comes pre install on UMPCs. My dad's UMPC, 800MHz or 900MHz i can't remember with 2GB RAM, runs pretty well tbh.

Samsung Q1 Ultra.

[HotelUser]

Actually, funny, because it comes pre install on UMPCs. My dad's UMPC, 800MHz or 900MHz i can't remember with 2GB RAM, runs pretty well tbh.

Samsung Q1 Ultra.

I told you it comes on an 800mhz system previously in other threads. I hate how it preforms on the Samsumg Q1. It runs terrible.

[Recursion]

It runs fine, its actually quite speedy :S

[HotelUser]

It runs fine, its actually quite speedy :S

If you're seriously suggesting that a system with 800Mhz runs Vista well, then you know nothing about computers. Firstly Microsoft recommends at least a 1Ghz processor, and seeing as they recommend you have 512MB RAM when you really need 2GB for Vista to run decent, their suggested processor speed is also a made up number :P.

[jackass]

Yet another sandbox screenshot. :)

http://www.tehupload.com/uploads/1191688595aee86vienna.jpg

[Recursion]

If you're seriously suggesting that a system with 800Mhz runs Vista well, then you know nothing about computers. Firstly Microsoft recommends at least a 1Ghz processor, and seeing as they recommend you have 512MB RAM when you really need 2GB for Vista to run decent, their suggested processor speed is also a made up number :P.

I am being serious, Vista does not need that great a CPU.

[Kyle!]

midori will still be called windows midori.. aka windows 8.. the most popular midori news site announced this long ago.


I don't think you get what we mean... I'll make it easy for you.

Microsoft Windows which will be finishing after Windows 7, That will be the LAST EVER windows OS, after that there will be...

Microsoft Midori will be based on a totally different architecture and has nothing to do with Windows, its an entirely different system/OS.

So yes, Windows 7 will be the last ever Windows OS. (Thank god).

[Agnostic Bear]

Yet another sandbox screenshot. :)

http://www.tehupload.com/uploads/1191688595aee86vienna.jpg

That's not Windows 7 at all. Windows 7 Milestone 1 looks almost identical to Vista.

[Calon]

Its coming out in 2010, well, planned at least. And the UI WILL be changing.
..2 years before 2010 [vista]

[Recursion]

lul wut?