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Unbilotitled
28-06-2008, 08:45 PM
All the controversy about indian children making there clothes etc...
Do you shop there?
Like the clothing ?
I have got a few Tees from primark, i like them, dont really care about the people who make them though,
Anyways give us your thoughts
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CJW93
28-06-2008, 08:55 PM
Its pretty decent I think I got a green and white stipy hoody from there two days ago.
Get to work children, I'm going there again after school on wendesday to get some more
Janczyk
28-06-2008, 08:56 PM
It's a farce.
Nearly every clothing company uses sweatshops and it's not right to single out Primark.
Charlie
28-06-2008, 08:58 PM
It's a farce.
Nearly every clothing company uses sweatshops and it's not right to single out Primark.
That's what I thought when I saw the adverts. There is probably loads of other clothing brands that have their items made in the same way as Primark, why do they feel the need to single out one?
CJW93
28-06-2008, 09:01 PM
Becuase its one of the biggest retailers, and the reason for it being so cheap is becuase of the Indians that make the cloths
There was also a programme on where it showed the conditions nd they had a factgory, and one line was h&m, then next to it they had fcuk and then next to that they would have Bench or w.e and then primark! So all the clothes would be made in the same room just next to eachother, your just paying for the brand really.
N-Dubz
28-06-2008, 09:02 PM
lol yay primark!!!!!!!!!!!
y does everyone pick on primark :(
superfly-dan
28-06-2008, 09:13 PM
I don't really like Primark that much, although they do make some really cool t-shirts :P My wardrobe is full of Primark t-shirts.
And to be totally honest, I don't think child labour should be seen as such a huge issue. They still get paid ***!
Firehorse
28-06-2008, 09:16 PM
You watched that panorama! Nah, i'm still gonna buy from there. It's not completely primarks fault, it's the selfish people who work in the factory and take the clothes to somewhere where they can pay less for them to be done and keep more money.
Emjin
28-06-2008, 09:58 PM
I didn't watch the whole program they had on but wasn't it the people who make them for Primark who sent them to these people? so.. Primark didn't necessarily know? Correct me if I'm wrong :P
I do like their stuff.. and it's dirt cheap so.. *shrug* But did you see the videos of when they first open a new store? good god.. someone could get crushed to death in that
Retroduck
28-06-2008, 10:28 PM
I shop there sometimes because its cheap, and the clothes are nice.
velvet
28-06-2008, 10:32 PM
I don't shop there, not my kind of clothes really.
And it's not all Primark's fault about the child labour stuff, a lot of that's down to the factory owners.
Eww, primark clothes are hideous, no style at all. Yea, people say its good because it cheep, but I would rather have less decent clothes than loads of horrible clothes.
House of Fraser ftw.
Misawa
28-06-2008, 10:33 PM
Just about every mainstream clothing company has children work in poor conditions.
And the reason for it being so cheap is becuase of the Indians that make the cloths
Not Necessarily true. Some of the more expensive stores are just as likely to use cheap child labour, but just add a bigger mark-up to their clothes.
More expensive clothes; doesnt always mean they've been made under more "ethical" conditions.
But i mean Primark has been shown to use unethical conditions even though its technically not their fault. But the low cost of the clothes shouldnt be why people think this.
If primark sell 1000 units of £1 tops, and FCUK sells 5 £80 dresses in a week. Primark will have accumulated more profit. This is how Primark make their money, from Large volumes of sales.
About the child labour, its down towards the factory owners.
All you see if people under paid, but how much are these companies paying the owners? What the people get paid will be hardly anything what the owners get.
Asher
29-06-2008, 12:05 AM
I bought an XXL hoody from there to keep me warm in the house aha
lol
dirrty
29-06-2008, 08:55 AM
its good value for money, but i wont shop there.
Klydo
29-06-2008, 10:22 AM
I've never even seen a Primark. Also my opinion to third world countries who have people forced into labour is their own fault. The majority of them were either run or dominated by the British Empire, then of course they fought for freedom and now look at them. If they wanted a better life they shouldn't have fought for freedom. If it was happening in this country no one would give a damn, it's just because it's these "poor" asian, african or indian children that are suffering that anyone even notices. I think there should be a campaign to save all the MacDonald's and Burger King employees in this country - poor sods...
Ricky Gervais sums it up perfectly in his Politics standup. Where he says "Africa fought for freedom in the 50's and 60's. Once they got it AIDs, HIV and other diseases started to attack the population. The 80's rolled on and the phone went 'Hello it's Africa'."
Lubricant
29-06-2008, 12:04 PM
I buy clothes from Primark. Decent clothes and cheap.
tbh, there website says it all:
http://www.primark.co.uk/index2.shtml
Wyked
30-06-2008, 09:28 AM
It wasn't actually directly Primark's fault.
The companys producing the clothing basically started getting children to do it in their own homes, something which would be difficult to keep on eye on from primarks point of view, it was only the factorys that had inspections.
Layna
30-06-2008, 09:53 AM
Yeah i still shop there. the clothes are decent and nice :)
The parents of the children working are making them work because they need the money. On that programme those women were like "O, they should be in school". Well their parents cant afford to send them to school. They need them working because they need the money.
The men who hire the children should give them a decent wage, but this is down to the country's poor laws and lack of enforcement.
Poor Primark.
i hate primark,
i dont see the fun in getting mauled by 2 lower class skets who are like fighting over a ***** £1 shirt
/yes first hand experience..
Pazza
03-07-2008, 03:28 PM
Well, you could think about it, in the way that the indians had a bad life, no money but they have oppurtunity to make money, they're not being forced to do it :S
Well, you could think about it, in the way that the indians had a bad life, no money but they have oppurtunity to make money, they're not being forced to do it :S
i think indians should become my slave
yarly
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Clowgon
06-07-2008, 08:53 AM
There is nothing wrong with primark. Primark is know as the new Mark & Spencer for clothing. Pepole say " Oh Primark, i whould never shop there"
They say that because its cheap.
For far as im concerned its a cheap clothes shop that makes pretty good dam clothes. Look at Gap for example Expensive/Sweatshop.
Whoever invented Primark have down a pretty good job look how much they make a day. £10,000 maybe £20,000 - £30,000 on a good day.
Primark needs to change their terms and conditions because its wrong.
Warren
06-07-2008, 10:42 AM
The people whom make them are given money AND a home by Primark and the other companies whom use sweatshops. I like Primark, it's good value for money and their clothes are generally nice, so it's fine.
Nereo
06-07-2008, 12:30 PM
I dont even like Primark :D
,Jess,
06-07-2008, 02:36 PM
I love Primark lol, I hate it at weekends though, way too many people :P
today
06-07-2008, 03:01 PM
i hate primark full stop.
Too messy :(
Alkaz
06-07-2008, 03:08 PM
Tbh if it werent for places like primark then alot of people in them countries wouldnt have work so were almost helping them out although I do agree they could be paid a little more but then again out there wot they get paid could be a decent wage, just in our minds 15p per day or w.e it is is a pathetic ammount.
I am all for Primark.
today
06-07-2008, 03:12 PM
Tbh if it werent for places like primark then alot of people in them countries wouldnt have work so were almost helping them out although I do agree they could be paid a little more but then again out there wot they get paid could be a decent wage, just in our minds 15p per day or w.e it is is a pathetic ammount.
I am all for Primark.
It still is a crap wage, 15p to them is not much either if you watched Blood Sweat & Tshirts you'll see you'll need to work a full day from early in the morning to late at night just to pay the rent and get the very basic food.
Papershop
07-07-2008, 11:46 AM
First off, its not 15p per day. Second, we are helping thier economy to grow by the vast amount of jobs available. The wages they are given are livable on. Children working is not acceptable and Primark have dropped its 3 main contracters because they have broken thier contract. It is not just Primark who have committed this aswell, some Primark sweatshops were next door to george and other various brands. It is wrong to blame Primark for the contraversy caused because it is not entirely thier fault (and not just thier fault!) as it is hard to track of companies subletting to other people.
Thanks for your time
ideabox
07-07-2008, 12:00 PM
Not interested in Primark. Never have been...
If you're going to buy something, its got to be quality, stand out or have something unique to it. Not so much in the design but as in the origin. :)
God I sound like a snob! =(
today
07-07-2008, 12:47 PM
Meh, removed.
I'll only get slated. (:
Mythicisation
07-07-2008, 12:59 PM
It's good how it's so cheap, but I wouldn't shop there.
Davii
07-07-2008, 01:30 PM
When I used to go to England when I was younger I used to always go there with my parents, 'cause they had quite good childrens clothes and it was always like £3 for a pack of 3 t-shirts and stuff so you could buy like enough clothes to lsat you quite a long time and it would be cheep as chips. Haven't been there since I was like 12 though so not really sure what clothes they would have for me if I went now.
samsaBEAR
07-07-2008, 10:13 PM
i know someone will probably hate on me for saying this
but i dont really care about how the tee shirts are made. i dont care if little children are working their fingers to the bone to make them. that's their life.
they certainly don't care about english children being beaten up by their parents, or homeless children over here, so why should we care about them?
they dont run documentries raising awareness of the situation over here, so why should we do the same for them? if we needed aid, would they help? i doubt it.
im sorry, but im quite argumentative regarding the subject of third world poverty and all that :D
no waiii
08-07-2008, 06:19 PM
People know that this is happneing and they still buy there stuff because it's cheep and there not gunna stop.
Inseriousity.
08-07-2008, 06:39 PM
I'm more concerned about the pronunciation... 'Pre-mark or Primark?' Primark sounds obvious but I pronounce it 'pre' lmao
I disagree with child labour and I didn't watch the programme so I'll take everyone's word for it that it wasn't the company's fault but the factories...
Alkaz
08-07-2008, 09:38 PM
It still is a crap wage, 15p to them is not much either if you watched Blood Sweat & Tshirts you'll see you'll need to work a full day from early in the morning to late at night just to pay the rent and get the very basic food.
It might be basic but think about the people in this country who get barely minimum wage and have to work all the god sent hours to pay there rent and get basic food? Were providing them with an ok standard of life which they probally wouldnt of had.
First off, its not 15p per day. Second, we are helping thier economy to grow by the vast amount of jobs available. The wages they are given are livable on. Children working is not acceptable and Primark have dropped its 3 main contracters because they have broken thier contract. It is not just Primark who have committed this aswell, some Primark sweatshops were next door to george and other various brands. It is wrong to blame Primark for the contraversy caused because it is not entirely thier fault (and not just thier fault!) as it is hard to track of companies subletting to other people.
Thanks for your time
I didnt actually say it was, its something like that. But alot of these shops say there unaware of the sub-contracting which is going on where the children are being employeed. The contractors these big clothing companies get can afford to pay the people over 16 a decent enough wage so that children dont have to work and work dont have to get sub-contracted to keep them companies costs down. Think of the profit they much by making, 80% on a £1 tshirt, rediculous figures like that but still we continue to buy from there and I will continue to buy from there. Actually almost all my clothes I am wearing now are from primark (H)
whoooosh
08-07-2008, 09:40 PM
I LOVE PRIMARK
:Liam
08-07-2008, 09:41 PM
The Devil Wears Primark was cancelled but i really wanted to see it.
I think really with any clothing shop you just have to throw away all your morals as you walk in the door and forget everything you know about equality.
Alkaz
08-07-2008, 09:52 PM
^ Basically, unless something is tailor made for you in a shop then most of the mass produced clothes will come from some form of sweat shop were ever it is in the world.
do they do boy clothes there?
helenhiya
08-07-2008, 10:12 PM
my thoughts: ewwwwwwww
& anyone who wears loads of stuff from there: ewwwwwwwww
Hazza
08-07-2008, 10:16 PM
Its not there fault - They didn't know - Its the supplies fault for doing it.
My view on their clothes haven't changed.
Alkaz
10-07-2008, 06:35 PM
Yes they do do boys clothes.
They do, womens, leingure, girls, boys, babies, men, homeware
i dnt like it to busy and crap clothes.
Pyroka
10-07-2008, 08:52 PM
Right, time to clear up a few things, I know the full story inside and out, external and internal so:
Primark cut out the middle man to keep in contact with the manufacturers directly.
Three Manufacturers (probably more out there), were caught out by Panorama for sub-contracting from outside the factories. There is no actual organisation or count of stock in the factories which are made, the manufacturers simply cover up the figures and ship out the orders, no questions asked. Questions will obviously be asked now.
Primark do not employ children under 14 (unless Local government allows, which lowers it to 13 years of age)
New Look, Gap, H&M and other highstreet names you might be familiar with also use these factories, they are definetly under the gun but they're not being targeted due to that they're not a success story, like Primark. Primark is turning over more and more profit because of the way they buy in bulk, which keeps it cheap due to the value of mass economies. No-one employs children, the factories did which are not employed by Primark, they are contracted to make the clothing. The factories are completely seperate companies.
Most Primark clothes are similiar to more expensive brands
Why do you think people call it cheaper? Because you can get similiar designs in Primark for half the price it would be anywhere else. The clothes last longer than other shops for some un-natural reason (I know, weird) but it is better price. It's aimed towards 13-45 Year Olds, which are usually working-class, and need to buy cheap clothes, during the credit crunch especially.
I guess you can blame the customers for all of this, the popularity of Primark is simply too much and they're finding it hard to keep up with consumers buying power. If Primark wasn't popular, then Manufacturers wouldn't face such pressure to meet high demands and they wouldn't employ children. ;)
Oh, and Primark are the only company to invest their money into a program to help combat these sorts of problems too, so how are Primark the bad guys?
They're not.
Papershop
13-07-2008, 05:30 PM
Yes they do do boys clothes.
They do, womens, leingure, girls, boys, babies, men, homeware
Accessories And Swimwear
I didnt actually say it was, its something like that. But alot of these shops say there unaware of the sub-contracting which is going on where the children are being employeed. The contractors these big clothing companies get can afford to pay the people over 16 a decent enough wage so that children dont have to work and work dont have to get sub-contracted to keep them companies costs down. Think of the profit they much by making, 80% on a £1 tshirt, rediculous figures like that but still we continue to buy from there and I will continue to buy from there. Actually almost all my clothes I am wearing now are from primark (H)
You are actually incorrect. They have low profit margins, but its the amount they sell that keep them in business. Educate yourself before you babble.
Right, time to clear up a few things, I know the full story inside and out, external and internal
And who are you like Mr.Carpenter? That's if you know who he is
Virgin Mary
13-07-2008, 06:10 PM
I hate the jewellery and bags but the clothes are sometimes nice, it's like H&M but cheaper.
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