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stevo127
30-06-2008, 03:05 PM
Habbo UK has made new fansite rules which include that fansites are not aloud to charge habbos for things such as forum VIP. Too look at these new rules visit http://www.habbo.co.uk/articles/224-the-fansite-way.

Here is the major example which are aimed at habboxforum and clubhabbo.
Fansites Must NOT:
- Charge users for premium services such as VIP access.
- Replicate any part of the Habbo Hotel service ('Retro' Hotels, Habbo Home clones etc).

Mr.Sam
30-06-2008, 03:06 PM
well thats crap not allowing vip charges, I presume habbox don't have to follow this as habbox forum is a seperate website.

stevo127
30-06-2008, 03:07 PM
maybe maybe but the forum is still part of habbox in a way, but i suppose its up to the owners wat they want to do and find out.

Mr.Sam
30-06-2008, 03:09 PM
forum is run by different people and has a different domain
maybe maybe but the forum is still part of habbox in a way, but i suppose its up to the owners wat they want to do and find out.

Okeanos
30-06-2008, 03:11 PM
well thats crap not allowing vip charges, I presume habbox don't have to follow this as habbox forum is a seperate website.

they have a choice, either follow the rules or dont promote and link the forum from there main site

no fansite can link to other sites that do not follow these rules. which includes forums

Slowpoke
30-06-2008, 03:11 PM
If it includes the forum Habbox would most probably have to cease being official since it would be extremely hard to maintain the sites without the VIP fees.

stevo127
30-06-2008, 03:12 PM
forum is run by different people and has a different domain

All i am goin to say is that habbox staff such as me use the forum for events, habbox news, all sorts that they use it for
but tht is off topic bck to the main topic :P

e5
30-06-2008, 03:13 PM
www.habbox.com is official.

www.habboxforum.com isn't official.


So they can still charge but while they charge for VIP membershop, habboxforum.com will never become official, not that they plan on that.

Okeanos
30-06-2008, 03:16 PM
www.habbox.com (http://www.habbox.com) is official.

www.habboxforum.com (http://www.habboxforum.com) isn't official.


So they can still charge but while they charge for VIP membershop, habboxforum.com will never become official, not that they plan on that.

http://i32.tinypic.com/2mmd4jo.png

Dan2nd
30-06-2008, 03:17 PM
as pointed out in the thread in Habbox feedback


The Fansite Way has been updated. Whether you are an Official Fansite or an Unofficial Fansite, you must follow the Fansite Way

Robby
30-06-2008, 03:20 PM
Replicate any part of the Habbo Hotel service ('Retro' Hotels, Habbo Home clones etc).

:o some people payed 40-50 quid for a habbos homes system, now there not aloud to use it

Slowpoke
30-06-2008, 03:27 PM
Replicate any part of the Habbo Hotel service ('Retro' Hotels, Habbo Home clones etc).

:o some people payed 40-50 quid for a habbos homes system, now there not aloud to use it

Technically, it's not a replicate since replicate means "to make or create an exact copy".

Decode
30-06-2008, 03:30 PM
Clubhabbo are getting owned lol.

:Act
30-06-2008, 03:35 PM
lmao.
Srsly funny that Habbo have now put CH in their place about not letting them have Habbo Homes n stuff..
Now they might actually come up with their own ideas for once instead of stealing off everyone else..

Btw.. people are now allowed to upload photo's of themselves to Fansites.. new rule?

Robby
30-06-2008, 03:37 PM
lmao.
Srsly funny that Habbo have now put CH in their place about not letting them have Habbo Homes n stuff..
Now they might actually come up with their own ideas for once instead of stealing off everyone else..

Btw.. people are now allowed to upload photo's of themselves to Fansites.. new rule?

No thats always been in place, thats why people have to link to them :P as its not uploading a pic to the fansite

Liz♥
30-06-2008, 03:39 PM
These rules were introdcued months ago in the fansite guide. A way around the VIP problem is to replace the word price or charge with donate. This shows users are willingly donating their money and are not being charged. Therefore making it voluntary and not compulsory, as for the habbo homes nothing round that.

However, ClubHabbo does break the rule of disrupting the operations of unofficial & official fansites by having radio managers influencing DJ's from other official/unofficial fansites to work there. Proof has been given by HFFM of a particular radio manager sending in requests asking the DJ to work at CH, screenshots have been made for further proof.

Looks like they're making these rules worldwide which means this was probably put together by someone in Sulake head office, however, there are some rules they haven't involved in the public one which they have included in the fansite guide such as...



o Your actions undermine any other fansite (owner or agent for your fansite).

o You do not clearly label the registration fields that are not required for registration to your site.

o Your owners, agents or any users at your request spam Habbo sites about your fansite.

o Your behaviour (owner or agent) is deemed by Habbo staff as inappropriate for a fansite.

o You incite Habbos to break the Habbo Way.


On the other hand, the ones in bold are sort of like this one... - Break the law or talk others into breaking it.

So in a way, Habbox & ClubHabbo should of already made these changes ever since they became official, because they're pretty straight forward in the guide. :rolleyes:

Slowpoke
30-06-2008, 03:44 PM
Btw.. people are now allowed to upload photo's of themselves to Fansites.. new rule?

They've always been allowed but at the end of the day it's at the fan sites owner(s) discretion.

stickwitu
30-06-2008, 03:44 PM
habbo just want the money people spend for VIP on fansites to be spent on the actual hotel for credits :rolleyes:

Okeanos
30-06-2008, 03:49 PM
These rules were introdcued months ago in the fansite guide. A way around the VIP problem is to replace the word price or charge with donate. This shows users are willingly donating their money and are not being charged. Therefore making it voluntary and not compulsory, as for the habbo homes nothing round that.

whatever word you use, its still giving money in return for extra features so i dont think it matters how people try n spin it?

meh

today
30-06-2008, 03:58 PM
Easy way round it..

Just say your a .COM fansite, as they dont have this rule in effect do they? lol

CHA!NGANG
30-06-2008, 03:58 PM
I think habbox needs the VIP fees to run all the sites. Up to sierk and ---MAD--- at the end of the day :]

stevo127
30-06-2008, 03:59 PM
Easy way round it..

Just say your a .COM fansite, as they dont have this rule in effect do they? lol
registered as a co.uk hotel fansite, not forum but main site but tht is linked to forum

today
30-06-2008, 04:07 PM
registered as a co.uk hotel fansite, not forum but main site but tht is linked to forum
Pardon?

Liz♥
30-06-2008, 04:13 PM
whatever word you use, its still giving money in return for extra features so i dont think it matters how people try n spin it?

meh

Tell Habbos.net this, they've been aware of this rule since they've been official and notice how they charge users for premium by using the word 'donate'.

Ardemax
30-06-2008, 04:14 PM
Pardon?

he's saying habbox is a uk fansite linked to hxf.
i think these rules are complete tosh because you're paying for a service that is not compulsory, and the user it getting more for themselves.

AgnesIO
30-06-2008, 04:15 PM
Clubhabbo are getting owned lol.

Haha my thoughts exactly xD

And habbo can't do anything cept remove us from official..
They can NOT tell other sites what to do.

As i said in another thread the only reason they are doing this is because if people are spending there money on habbo fansites then habbo arnt getting as much profits.

Ardemax
30-06-2008, 04:53 PM
Haha my thoughts exactly xD

And habbo can't do anything cept remove us from official..
They can NOT tell other sites what to do.

As i said in another thread the only reason they are doing this is because if people are spending there money on habbo fansites then habbo arnt getting as much profits.


habbo will learn the hard way imo.

cunning
30-06-2008, 05:32 PM
Habbox.com can just take off links to habbox's forum. It would be stupid to not allow the vip service.

ClubHabbo will have to lose a lot to meet the standards.

-Danube-
30-06-2008, 06:35 PM
I think taking away VIP services is just stupid, like others have said it's just so that people spend money on Habbo and not the fansites they visit, I think Sierk and ---MAD--- would rather not be official and keep VIP then get rid of VIP as thats what funds the site mainly if VIP goes so will Habbox probaly.

Sepron
30-06-2008, 07:49 PM
What about if they make VIP free but VVIP pay?

Moh
30-06-2008, 07:50 PM
- Replicate any part of the Habbo Hotel service ('Retro' Hotels, Habbo Home clones etc).

If the coding of the homes dosn't belong to Sulake, then how can they say that?
All habbo homes are is drag and drop. Any website has the right to use it.

luce
30-06-2008, 07:54 PM
Ooer hffm and CH homes are gone then and also VIP rue will be changed or alot of fansites will be shutting tbh :)

I dont like them one bit

Moh
30-06-2008, 08:04 PM
We should make a protion :P (Not really)

Sepron
30-06-2008, 08:06 PM
Okay, i think Habbo have totally messed up fansites. Which is probely gonna make the population of fansites go down

Carnio
30-06-2008, 08:08 PM
- Replicate any part of the Habbo Hotel service ('Retro' Hotels, Habbo Home clones etc).

If the coding of the homes dosn't belong to Sulake, then how can they say that?
All habbo homes are is drag and drop. Any website has the right to use it.

I was thinking that, also how can we get around the VIP problem.. Im still confused!

Universe
30-06-2008, 08:21 PM
I was thinking that, also how can we get around the VIP problem.. Im still confused!

Simple... asked to be removed from official fansite list.

It's bull tbh what this scheme is turning into. Do you see other hotels following this system? no... coz even ex Sulake staff think its a stupid way of running the fansite system in the first place.

id say to sites like Clubhabbo/Habbox. Pick between 50 credits per month or a better income using forum VIP etc..

Monkwrestler
30-06-2008, 08:54 PM
Well even if we are not official habbox is still the most largely used fansite on habbo ever and it will be quite hard for habbo.co.uk to take em down and also you can just call VIP a donation and in our thanks to you donating we shall give you extra fetures in our thanks loads of sites do this

Paulio
30-06-2008, 09:11 PM
How greedy are they getting? Their probs only doing it to encourage people to spend the money they spend on VIP, on Habbo credits.

Sulai
30-06-2008, 09:30 PM
These rules were introdcued months ago in the fansite guide. A way around the VIP problem is to replace the word price or charge with donate. This shows users are willingly donating their money and are not being charged. Therefore making it voluntary and not compulsory.

By replacing the word Charge with Donate that would mean that the service that the purchaser is requiring (in this case VIP) would not work the same.

If the word was changed to Donate then that would mean the purchaser could provide a voluntary contripution, meaning the purchaser could actually have the service for free as he isnt actually required to provide payment, only a donation.

crans
30-06-2008, 09:47 PM
By replacing the word Charge with Donate that would mean that the service that the purchaser is requiring (in this case VIP) would not work the same.

If the word was changed to Donate then that would mean the purchaser could provide a voluntary contripution, meaning the purchaser could actually have the service for free as he isnt actually required to provide payment, only a donation.
Lol "donate" and pick a cool rank :)

msb.
30-06-2008, 09:54 PM
Lol "donate" and pick a cool rank :)
Its a great idea but if features are added on then, surely thats just the same as paying for extra features... *I didn't want to say it but it is the truth*

I was thinking if it means paying furni for it, I am e-confused as I said in another thread

Liz♥
30-06-2008, 10:08 PM
By replacing the word Charge with Donate that would mean that the service that the purchaser is requiring (in this case VIP) would not work the same.

If the word was changed to Donate then that would mean the purchaser could provide a voluntary contripution, meaning the purchaser could actually have the service for free as he isnt actually required to provide payment, only a donation.

A way in which Habbos.net has gotten around this problem is quoted from their premium part of their site.


Premium Membership
For members who choose to donate towards the upkeep of the forum.

The fansite way has been introduced worldwide and them being official on 5 english speaking hotels as well as having Habbo Staff regularly using the forum. The donate option seems the only possible solution to resolve this problem. In simple terms, you are donating in order to benefit the upbringing of the site/forum and in return you receive a gift. This would be a special coloured name, reputation points etc. Another gift for donating could be a special mention on the main site which we know happens on many official fansites.

-Eyeless-
30-06-2008, 10:12 PM
If it includes the forum Habbox would most probably have to cease being official since it would be extremely hard to maintain the sites without the VIP fees.

I swear Habbo Hates Habbox :rolleyes:


All i am goin to say is that habbox staff such as me use the forum for events, habbox news, all sorts that they use it for
but tht is off topic bck to the main topic :P

I don't think it will/should affect the forum... But MAD will have the answers :P

Mint
30-06-2008, 11:56 PM
Atleast I can put myself in my avater now lol.

Casio
01-07-2008, 12:03 AM
So another words Habbo is saying if your official or not the fansite can't charge you for accessing the VIP part of the forum if im not mistaken.

GommeInc
01-07-2008, 02:19 AM
- Replicate any part of the Habbo Hotel service ('Retro' Hotels, Habbo Home clones etc).

If the coding of the homes dosn't belong to Sulake, then how can they say that?
All habbo homes are is drag and drop. Any website has the right to use it.
Technically speaking, you could get Sulake in trouble for saying that. They are suggesting they own a piece of code, which as far as I am aware, is illegal when other people have made it. If it was something as complex as vBulletin forums or IPB forums, then they can say that, but for a simple code which anyone can have and anyone can make, it's stupid.


Atleast I can put myself in my avater now lol.
I wouldn't, Jake would want your babies if that's you in your pic :P

Ardemax
01-07-2008, 05:51 AM
well, im sure something will get sorted out eventually.
it's not like vip is compulsory right?

Universe
01-07-2008, 10:48 AM
Technically speaking, you could get Sulake in trouble for saying that. They are suggesting they own a piece of code, which as far as I am aware, is illegal when other people have made it. If it was something as complex as vBulletin forums or IPB forums, then they can say that, but for a simple code which anyone can have and anyone can make, it's stupid.


I wouldn't, Jake would want your babies if that's you in your pic :P


It's not the fact that it's the script - it's the Habbo images which are used on the 'cloned Habbo homes.'

GommeInc
01-07-2008, 11:13 AM
It's not the fact that it's the script - it's the Habbo images which are used on the 'cloned Habbo homes.'
If that's the case, then why mention 'cloned Habbo Homes' at all when they could save the time and effort by saying 'it is not allowed to use Habbo images on websites which break the Habbo/Fansite Way by selling premium services or replicating any part of Habbo either through retro hotels or false log-ins.' You have to be precise with these things, or you get in trouble (at Habbo).

Problemo
01-07-2008, 11:17 AM
- Replicate any part of the Habbo Hotel service ('Retro' Hotels, Habbo Home clones etc).

If the coding of the homes dosn't belong to Sulake, then how can they say that? All habbo homes are is drag and drop. Any website has the right to use it.

They can't stop fansite owner's from making a 'homes system' or using them on there site, as long as none of the script has Sulake's coding in it, however they can stop you from using their image's. If they got really strict, i think they could stop you using the word "Habbo" on the Home's system (but im not sure) :S

Edited by ,Jess, (Forum Super Moderator): Accidental double posts merged.

Scarcely
01-07-2008, 09:13 PM
Well, habbox has managed to survive being un-official for so long, doubt there's any need to actually stay official.

As I doubt MAD is running the sites solely to be recognised on habbo.

Sulai
02-07-2008, 01:32 PM
A way in which Habbos.net has gotten around this problem is quoted from their premium part of their site.


The fansite way has been introduced worldwide and them being official on 5 english speaking hotels as well as having Habbo Staff regularly using the forum. The donate option seems the only possible solution to resolve this problem. In simple terms, you are donating in order to benefit the upbringing of the site/forum and in return you receive a gift. This would be a special coloured name, reputation points etc. Another gift for donating could be a special mention on the main site which we know happens on many official fansites.

But then it would'nt be a donation if you recieve something in return :S, it would be more like a trade.

Fehm
02-07-2008, 02:57 PM
Posted many times before this But thanks anyway :)

AgnesIO
02-07-2008, 05:23 PM
What about if they make VIP free but VVIP pay?

you wish - and it wouldnt make a difference


Simple... asked to be removed from official fansite list.

It's bull tbh what this scheme is turning into. Do you see other hotels following this system? no... coz even ex Sulake staff think its a stupid way of running the fansite system in the first place.

id say to sites like Clubhabbo/Habbox. Pick between 50 credits per month or a better income using forum VIP etc..

They can remove us if they like, but habbox wont just stand down.

freeza
02-07-2008, 05:28 PM
well thats crap not allowing vip charges, I presume habbox don't have to follow this as habbox forum is a seperate website.

This VIP rule stinks but habbox still allows it =]

timROGERS
02-07-2008, 06:36 PM
Guys, it has nothing to do with being official. Habbox is totally unable to offer a VIP service. Sulake offers Habbo fansites the use of Habbo related content - if you do not follow their policies, whether official or not, they can revoke this permit to use copyrighted material and you therefore cannot use any more Habbo trademarks or copyrighted material on your site.

With the rule about replication of Habbo services, this is the same! They are not claiming that they have any sort of intellectual right over scripts such as Habbo Homes, they are just stating the copyright usage can be revoked if you break their rules.

jasonflavel
02-07-2008, 09:26 PM
So its on then them to charge for VIP but fansites carnt

And sorry to burst your bubble but


The Fansite Way has been updated. Whether you are an Official Fansite or an Unofficial Fansite, you must follow the Fansite Way.

They gone too far now with the greedy ness

Ardemax
03-07-2008, 05:45 AM
what if all the fansites shutdown?
i know it's a bit extreme, but there's still a possibility, and then habbo will have to change the rules.

Snex
03-07-2008, 02:03 PM
I'm still waiting for someone to break every single fansite way rule. All you need to do is make sure that you don't have any habbo images or any content which they write as that's all the fansite way is for.


The same goes for Habbo Fansites. If you want to use Habbo graphics on your site then you have to follow a simple set of rules; The Fansite Way.

-Eyeless-
03-07-2008, 02:09 PM
It is stupid, it is like they wan't the sites that are trying hard to stay open to close, it seems it is ok for richkids with mummy and daddy funding their habbo fansites to stay open, but a site like habbox which relys on VIP for a source of funding is getting "shafted" by Habbo! :(

AgnesIO
03-07-2008, 02:45 PM
Guys, it has nothing to do with being official. Habbox is totally unable to offer a VIP service. Sulake offers Habbo fansites the use of Habbo related content - if you do not follow their policies, whether official or not, they can revoke this permit to use copyrighted material and you therefore cannot use any more Habbo trademarks or copyrighted material on your site.

With the rule about replication of Habbo services, this is the same! They are not claiming that they have any sort of intellectual right over scripts such as Habbo Homes, they are just stating the copyright usage can be revoked if you break their rules.

Yes but habbox could easily become a fansite for something else. I don't think many p[eople would mind if habbox was changed to a normal forum or something for runescape or summin..


what if all the fansites shutdown?
i know it's a bit extreme, but there's still a possibility, and then habbo will have to change the rules.
No they won't habbo dont NEED fansites.

Ardemax
03-07-2008, 03:55 PM
Yes but habbox could easily become a fansite for something else. I don't think many p[eople would mind if habbox was changed to a normal forum or something for runescape or summin..


No they won't habbo dont NEED fansites.

oh, ok, hxf? ch?
they attract a hell of a lot of people

TopManTim
03-07-2008, 04:08 PM
Oh stop whining about habbox, all it needs to do is remove the link to the forum and then it's fine. However, sites like habbos.net who are only forums can't just remove a link. They need the VIP money and to abide by the fansite way.

What do sites like that do?

Ardemax
03-07-2008, 05:50 PM
Oh stop whining about habbox, all it needs to do is remove the link to the forum and then it's fine. However, sites like habbos.net who are only forums can't just remove a link. They need the VIP money and to abide by the fansite way.

What do sites like that do?

run around in circles not squares. :P
oj!
im guessing they can't be a habbo fansite = shutdown.

Snex
03-07-2008, 08:48 PM
Oh stop whining about habbox, all it needs to do is remove the link to the forum and then it's fine. However, sites like habbos.net who are only forums can't just remove a link. They need the VIP money and to abide by the fansite way.

What do sites like that do?
Remove all the habbo owned content from the site then they can still sell VIP.

Ardemax
04-07-2008, 05:44 AM
Remove all the habbo owned content from the site then they can still sell VIP.


they would have to remove their name then, and be a runescape fansite! haha!

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