Spoilers

[Kardan]

Just a thread regarding spoilers in the entertainment section; you could use this thread as an example:

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=498943

I understand not revealing the information on the thread title; but why should we have to use spoiler tags within the post if it's obvious that it's giving information about TV shows out?

I'm not sure if that made sense, but there's no point in using spoilers when the thread is obviously going to be spoiling the information...

[Wootzeh]

I don't even understand why you need spoiler tags in the big brother forum anyway.

[GommeInc]

Spoilers serve no real purpose in Live TV shows or in threads where the title is a big giveaway :/

[kk.]

agreed, the use of spoilers is getting ridiculous. If you go into a thread called, for example, dr who: last episode discussion, its bound to reveal info on it in every post. The moderators have had to edit a tonne of posts in a lot of the entertainment threads because they all talk about one thing that's in a spoiler so its classed as spoiler info.

I think you should just have a warning thread saying it is not necessary to use spoilers in threads but it is recommended etc

[Yoshimitsui]

The moderator maybe got a little carried away!

[Kardan]

The moderator maybe got a little carried away!

Again? :rolleyes:

[Yoshimitsui]

As it has been said before, if it's live or has happend then no spoilers don't need to be used.

Wheres if someone has seen an episode of a series say online from another country and post something about that then yes a spolier should be used.

I think it just needs to be delivered into the moderation procedure and made clear as to what we should and shouldn't do as yes it can get silly having a thread full of spoilers when you can just put it in the title, and if you choose to read the thread yu can't blame anyone for giving anything away.

[Tintinnabulate]

I got infracted for discussing a 2 day old news which was officially released by big brother. ColdPlay should re-read he defenition of the word spoiler.

[Jordy]

I wish the Moderator's would spend their time implementing spoilers into posts with huge images that stretch the page, it would be time spent much more wisely :P

[-Eyeless-]

I got infracted for discussing a 2 day old news which was officially released by big brother. ColdPlay should re-read he defenition of the word spoiler.

Yes but most people don't look at the website for every single update, so people don't want information revealed to them before they watch it on the big brother so it is fair to put spoilers but as far as spoiler tags in a thread Moderators just enforce the rules we don't make them ;)

[Tintinnabulate]

Yes but most people don't look at the website for every single update, so people don't want information revealed to them before they watch it on the big brother so it is fair to put spoilers but as far as spoiler tags in a thread Moderators just enforce the rules we don't make them ;)

It was reversed anyway.
The thread title made it obvious and so did the first post that the thread contained spoilers.

[-Eyeless-]

As far as I am aware it is still not allowed to have them within a thread but it is up to Proffesor Alex and the other management in the end :)

[Kardan]

As far as I am aware it is still not allowed to have them within a thread but it is up to Proffesor Alex and the other management in the end :)

So should the result of the 2006 World Cup Final be spoilered then, since I've recorded it from two years ago, but still haven't been able to watch it?

;)

[-Eyeless-]

No because it has aired :rolleyes:

[Kardan]

No because it has aired :rolleyes:

So, why do I have to have spoilers in my thread about who got evicted from BB after it's aired?

[-Eyeless-]

You shouldn't if somebody made you put them in their then it is wrong :S

[Kardan]

You shouldn't if somebody made you put them in their then it is wrong :S

Hence this thread :)

[-Eyeless-]

Im having a look into it ;)

[Tristan]

So, why do I have to have spoilers in my thread about who got evicted from BB after it's aired?

ohhhhhhhhh.
I believe that you have just owned him m8.


The stupid "rule" that seems to have arisen out of nowhere regarding spoiler tagging has got incredibly out of hand (and has been so for a long while now).
The moderator guide said that moderators should use common sense - come on and use it then because it has become ******* ridiculous to say the least.


*Removed*

Edited by Hayd93 (Forum Super Moderator): Please don't be rude to forum staff.

[Charlie]

I haven't read most of the posts but I replied to a BB thread saying what happened in a past catch up episode and was told to use spoilers by a moderator. I know someone may have not seen it but it's already happened. It's not like a soap or something where I read somethings going to happen and no-ones seen it yet.

Spoliers in the BB thread are pointless because if they don't find out via the forum, they will some other way because it'll be on a few sites as news

[-Eyeless-]

Well as far as I am aware it is not allowed to post things that haven't been shown (Without spoilers) but it is fine to post things that have been shown, so I don't know why it happened.

[Coldplay]

The rule is, to clear this up

Anyhtign which reveals information, should be spoiled, despite age.

If you hadn't seen a film, and someone posted a plot that wouldn't be fair? no?

You said who was evicted, which people may not want to know, I know the rule is stupid but at the end of the day it's the rule? It's not like that spoiler changes YOUR life or forum record?

And Germany, I don't appreciate your comment, I work DAMN hard on this forum, and I don't need to be criticised for my actions, if you don't like it, make a formal complaint.

[Kardan]

The rule is, to clear this up

Anyhtign which reveals information, should be spoiled, despite age.

If you hadn't seen a film, and someone posted a plot that wouldn't be fair? no?

You said who was evicted, which people may not want to know, I know the rule is stupid but at the end of the day it's the rule? It's not like that spoiler changes YOUR life or forum record?

And Germany, I don't appreciate your comment, I work DAMN hard on this forum, and I don't need to be criticised for my actions, if you don't like it, make a formal complaint.

That's pathetic... Anything which reveals information is pratically the WHOLE forum, I could find you HUNDREDS of posts which should be spoilered then.

So you're saying I just spoiler the following:

Argentina beat Germany 3-2 in the 1986 World Cup Final.

Argentina's Goal Scorers:

Brown 23'
Valdano 55'
Burruchaga 83'

Germany's Goal Scorers:

Rummenigge 74'
Völler 80'

[Coldplay]

Why are you having a go at me? Did I make the rule? No.. So why is it my fault, why do I deserve to be slated for something which the FORUM is responsible for,

I'm going to suggest a revision of the rule to forum Mgmt, and I'm not going to spoiler any post in the BB section, so don't complain if you see something you don't want too.

[Kardan]

Why are you having a go at me? Did I make the rule? No.. So why is it my fault, why do I deserve to be slated for something which the FORUM is responsible for,

I'm going to suggest a revision of the rule to forum Mgmt, and I'm not going to spoiler any post in the BB section, so don't complain if you see something you don't want too.

I've not slated you anywhere, I'm stating that the rule is pathetic and should be revised :)

[Coldplay]

Just the way in which you said "Thats Pathetic"

I'm going to sign off now, because to be honest, I'm pretty annoyed that people think I don't know what I'm doing, and if this is the honest case, and people think I'm incapable of moderating then I suggest they PM me, so I can decide if it's in the best interests of the users of this forum for me to resign my post.

Goodnight.

[Kardan]

Just the way in which you said "Thats Pathetic"

I'm going to sign off now, because to be honest, I'm pretty annoyed that people think I don't know what I'm doing, and if this is the honest case, and people think I'm incapable of moderating then I suggest they PM me, so I can decide if it's in the best interests of the users of this forum for me to resign my post.

Goodnight.

'That's pathetic...'

'That' being the forum rule.

[Coldplay]

My misinterpriation, You have my apologies and a +Rep for the misunderstanding.

[Tintinnabulate]

Dont flame Coldplay lol, this guy didnt make the rules. Flame whoever made that rule haha *cough* Professor-Alex *cough* :P haha.

[Fehm]

Lol but some people may have watched big brother for example, llive on E4! And then seen like Dennis getting removed. but then they posted on here... but because no one else knew this (That wasnt watchign it ) and therefore its a spoiler

That was a CRAP explanation

[Kardan]

Lol but some people may have watched big brother for example, llive on E4! And then seen like Dennis getting removed. but then they posted on here... but because no one else knew this (That wasnt watchign it ) and therefore its a spoiler

That was a CRAP explanation

But, that means everything has to be spoilered from TV, if I don't watch the TV or visit any news sites...

So if someone posted that the Titanic sunk because of an iceberg, they'd have to spoiler it because someone might not have seen the film (and not realise it was based on a true story...)

[-Eyeless-]

But, that means everything has to be spoilered from TV, if I don't watch the TV or visit any news sites...

So if someone posted that the Titanic sunk because of an iceberg, they'd have to spoiler it because someone might not have seen the film (and not realise it was based on a true story...)

IMO All Information in the BB forum should be spoilered unless it has been shown on either the Channel 4 Catch up show or if it has been shown on the eviction show.

In the television section, anything that has been revealed before a program aires should be in spoilers and if somebody has downloaded a program that was aired somewhere else before it was aired in the uk then that also should be spoilered...

But Hopefully the Prof Will Read this ;)

[GommeInc]

IMO All Information in the BB forum should be spoilered unless it has been shown on either the Channel 4 Catch up show or if it has been shown on the eviction show.
If ALL information is spoilered, then surely a big, bold warning in the forum description should be "WILL CONTAIN SPOILERS" which will make it easier than getting everyone to post their findings in spoilers? I don't get why the spoiler tags exists, when thread titles are a giveaway and if you don't want to know what happened in Doctor Who or Big Brother, then you simply don't check the forums :S

[Plank]

I agree with most of the above and I pmed Professor-Alex about this a few days ago. I don't see why every post in a thread has spoilers in it, a simple "this thread contains spoilers" in the title should do. When people see the warning in the title, they will know the thread has spoilers and will avoid it. If they open a thread which has "SPOILERS" in the title then it's their own fault if they see spoilers. I also think it is getting out of hand.

The rule definitely needs reviewing in my opinion.

[-Eyeless-]

If ALL information is spoilered, then surely a big, bold warning in the forum description should be "WILL CONTAIN SPOILERS" which will make it easier than getting everyone to post their findings in spoilers? I don't get why the spoiler tags exists, when thread titles are a giveaway and if you don't want to know what happened in Doctor Who or Big Brother, then you simply don't check the forums :S

I never said all information, I said all information that hasn't been aired! Please read next time ;)

[The Professor]

I typed up a massive long reply to this thread last night but my net decided to cut out before I hit the post button :'(

For as long as spoiler tags have been on the forum, people have been "asked" to put spoiler tags in their threads via a stuck thread in the relavent entertainment forums. There have, however, been no black-and-white criteria for what constitutes a spoiler tag and what doesn't. As someone earlier in the thread said, leaving it down to common sense seemed the best thing to do at the time, but as everyones' interpretation of the rule seems to be different (both between moderators, and between members/mods) it's impossible to please everyone in that respect.

It seems sensible to draw up some sort of concrete rule as to where spoiler tags should be used and where they shouldn't be used. I'm extremely happy to receive any input, this is a draft:


Big Brother forum - If the information has been aired on the 10PM C4 programme, it doesn't need to be inside spoiler tags. Otherwise - it does.
Films forum - Any major plot points about a film currently in cinemas should be in spoiler tags.
Television forum - Any major plot points about a television programme that hasn't been aired (ie. information received from other media) should be in spoiler tags.
Anime - Any major plot points about an anime or manga that hasn't been released yet (ie. information received from other media) should be in spoiler tags. I don't know how common this is in anime/manga.

That seem sensible?

[e5]

Spoilers serve no real purpose in Live TV shows or in threads where the title is a big giveaway :/
It's not live really. They show the days highlights later on.

I think you should get better spoilers, you can't c+p from the current spoilers we have.

[Plank]

I typed up a massive long reply to this thread last night but my net decided to cut out before I hit the post button :'(

For as long as spoiler tags have been on the forum, people have been "asked" to put spoiler tags in their threads via a stuck thread in the relavent entertainment forums. There have, however, been no black-and-white criteria for what constitutes a spoiler tag and what doesn't. As someone earlier in the thread said, leaving it down to common sense seemed the best thing to do at the time, but as everyones' interpretation of the rule seems to be different (both between moderators, and between members/mods) it's impossible to please everyone in that respect.

It seems sensible to draw up some sort of concrete rule as to where spoiler tags should be used and where they shouldn't be used. I'm extremely happy to receive any input, this is a draft:



That seem sensible?
The draft looks good. Although with Big Brother not everything is shown in the highlights so I think it would be better if it was like "major" story lines should be in spoilers. Although major could be mis-interpreted by different people. Will there be any guidelines for catch up shows?

[-Eyeless-]

I typed up a massive long reply to this thread last night but my net decided to cut out before I hit the post button :'(

For as long as spoiler tags have been on the forum, people have been "asked" to put spoiler tags in their threads via a stuck thread in the relavent entertainment forums. There have, however, been no black-and-white criteria for what constitutes a spoiler tag and what doesn't. As someone earlier in the thread said, leaving it down to common sense seemed the best thing to do at the time, but as everyones' interpretation of the rule seems to be different (both between moderators, and between members/mods) it's impossible to please everyone in that respect.

It seems sensible to draw up some sort of concrete rule as to where spoiler tags should be used and where they shouldn't be used. I'm extremely happy to receive any input, this is a draft:



That seem sensible?

That is how I interpreted it ;) I think it is probably the best way to go about it :)

[GommeInc]

I never said all information, I said all information that hasn't been aired! Please read next time ;)
How could un-aired BB exist? What's in newspapers is information that won't effect the viewing pleasure of someone watching it on TV. Big Brother can't really have anything spoilerable. If you've missed a live show, then avoid the BB forums for information, it's your fault for spoiling it for yourself, really "/

[-Eyeless-]

How could un-aired BB exist? What's in newspapers is information that won't effect the viewing pleasure of someone watching it on TV. Big Brother can't really have anything spoilerable. If you've missed a live show, then avoid the BB forums for information, it's your fault for spoiling it for yourself, really "/

What is in newspapers and online can easily ruin it, if a housmate is removed or a new person is going to go in and somebody just want to see how it unfolds by watching it then of course it ruins it because people are revealing things that are going to happen later on!

[Coldplay]

Good draft, I think it should be a little more like this however;

Big Brother forum - If the information has been aired on the 10PM C4 programme, it doesn't need to be inside spoiler tags. Otherwise - it does.

Films forum - Any major plot points about any film should be in spoiler tags (Because, People still mightn't of seen it)

Television forum - Any major plot points about a television programme that hasn't been aired (ie. information received from other media) should be in spoiler tags as well as any plot information for shows which have only been aired within the past 7 days, or are still available on BBC iPlayer

Anime - Any major plot points about an anime or manga that hasn't been released yet (ie. information received from other media) should be in spoiler tags. I don't know how common this is in anime/manga.

[-Eyeless-]

Good draft, I think it should be a little more like this however;

Big Brother forum - If the information has been aired on the 10PM C4 programme, it doesn't need to be inside spoiler tags. Otherwise - it does.

Films forum - Any major plot points about any film should be in spoiler tags (Because, People still mightn't of seen it)

Television forum - Any major plot points about a television programme that hasn't been aired (ie. information received from other media) should be in spoiler tags as well as any plot information for shows which have only been aired within the past 7 days, or are still available on BBC iPlayer, or an equivilant for any channel.

Anime - Any major plot points about an anime or manga that hasn't been released yet (ie. information received from other media) should be in spoiler tags. I don't know how common this is in anime/manga.

I edited yours a bit just for clarity ;) because Channel four has a similar service :)

[Kardan]

Good draft, I think it should be a little more like this however;

Big Brother forum - If the information has been aired on the 10PM C4 programme, it doesn't need to be inside spoiler tags. Otherwise - it does.

Films forum - Any major plot points about any film should be in spoiler tags (Because, People still mightn't of seen it)

Television forum - Any major plot points about a television programme that hasn't been aired (ie. information received from other media) should be in spoiler tags as well as any plot information for shows which have only been aired within the past 7 days, or are still available on BBC iPlayer

Anime - Any major plot points about an anime or manga that hasn't been released yet (ie. information received from other media) should be in spoiler tags. I don't know how common this is in anime/manga.

Any television programme?

That would mean...

6 days ago; America detonated a nuclear warhead over the pacific ocean, source BBC NEWS.

Would have to be filtered... It should be programmes that have plot lines.

[Plank]

Good draft, I think it should be a little more like this however;
Big Brother forum - If the information has been aired on the 10PM C4 programme, it doesn't need to be inside spoiler tags. Otherwise - it does.
Films forum - Any major plot points about any film should be in spoiler tags (Because, People still mightn't of seen it)
Television forum - Any major plot points about a television programme that hasn't been aired (ie. information received from other media) should be in spoiler tags as well as any plot information for shows which have only been aired within the past 7 days, or are still available on BBC iPlayer
Anime - Any major plot points about an anime or manga that hasn't been released yet (ie. information received from other media) should be in spoiler tags. I don't know how common this is in anime/manga.
"Any film" is just over the top. If you want to avoid a particular film, then you can just avoid threads with that film in the title.

[Coldplay]

Any film isn't OTT, it's only spoiler tags, it's not hard to use spoiler tags, all you have to do is highlight and click "spoil"

And it says plot lines, a neuclear warhead on america isn't a plotline.

Instead of flaming me why not just amend my post? :S

[-Eyeless-]

"Any film" is just over the top. If you want to avoid a particular film, then you can just avoid threads with that film in the title.

But why not use the spoilers? how hard is it to highlight it then press spoil? It is just laziness in most cases (not aimed just at you ;))

[Plank]

Why is it "flaming you"? It's a suggestion.

Anyway, I've got an idea - Lets just put the whole forum in spoiler tags!!

Edited by Hayd93 (Forum Super Moderator): Please don't be rude

[Coldplay]

Why do you have to make obscene posts like that? This is a mature discussion, about the rule, which needs to be amended.

[GommeInc]

What is in newspapers and online can easily ruin it, if a housmate is removed or a new person is going to go in and somebody just want to see how it unfolds by watching it then of course it ruins it because people are revealing things that are going to happen later on!
Then surely if threads appear like "Harris Gay Sex Shame" appears, you'll have the brains to not read it if you think it will ruin your opinion on Harris or the Big Brother. If you don't want to know what happens in the next Doctor Who for example, you will avoid threads that say "Doctor Who: Christmas Special" because it's obviously going to contain spoilers. If you cry that it doesn't have [SPOILER] written in the title, then it's your own fault for ruining it for yourself. You can't blame other people for your own actions :/

I can't see any reasons for spoilering Big Brother threads, because it's obvious that live shows which you may miss for some reason will be talked about and thread titles nearly always give it away. If you want to watch what happens next, ignore the forums until you've watched it, it's common sense really. The same goes for Newspaper articles, I very much doubt newspapers will even have stories ready for you to spoil, and when you think about it, newspapers can't spoil a show because they are a form of secondary BB entertainment, and most of the things in Newspapers are information that goes alongside Big Brother, like sex scandals etc. You won't hear about those things in the show...


"Any film" is just over the top. If you want to avoid a particular film, then you can just avoid threads with that film in the title.
Agreed, as old people say, "It's your own stupid fault" for looking at things that clearly give away this sort of information.

[Kardan]

Any film isn't OTT, it's only spoiler tags, not gonna ruin your life,

And it says plot lines, a neuclear warhead on america isn't a plotline.

Instead of flaming me why not just amend my post? :S

My bad, must of overread the 'plot points'.

[Plank]

I don't see why every post in a thread has spoilers in it, a simple "this thread contains spoilers" in the title should do. When people see the warning in the title, they will know the thread has spoilers and will avoid it. If they open a thread which has "SPOILERS" in the title then it's their own fault if they see spoilers.

That's what I don't understand^^

[Coldplay]

Because people might want to discuss the programme as a whole? Or post their opinions on what they think might happen?

[-Eyeless-]

In some cases it is fair because those threads have people talking about how good or bad something is, so while somebody wants to know about how good a film or Tv program is they still don't want it "spoiled" :)

[GommeInc]

In some cases it is fair because those threads have people talking about how good or bad something is, so while somebody wants to know about how good a film or Tv program is they still don't want it "spoiled" :)
That's crazy, if people don't want to know, don't view the threads. They shouldn't view the threads, it's obvious that film discussions are going to giveaway plot points, what else would they talk about "/ If you have to change anything, change the description to such forums to remind people about common sense, that threads are more than likely going to "spoil" the film/book/show for you...

[-Eyeless-]

That's crazy, if people don't want to know, don't view the threads. They shouldn't view the threads, it's obvious that film discussions are going to giveaway plot points, what else would they talk about "/ If you have to change anything, change the description to such forums to remind people about common sense...

Yes but people talk about how good a film was it is totally fine to look at the thread if you want to find out what people think but that shouldn't mean they have to see plot spoilers...

[Kardan]

Yes but people talk about how good a film was it is totally fine to look at the thread if you want to find out what people think but that shouldn't mean they have to see plot spoilers...

So if I say Titanic sunk because of an iceberg, I'd have to spoiler it?

[Plank]

Why do you have to make obscene posts like that? This is a mature discussion, about the rule, which needs to be amended.
:rolleyes:


In some cases it is fair because those threads have people talking about how good or bad something is, so while somebody wants to know about how good a film or Tv program is they still don't want it "spoiled" :)
Everything was fine before spoilers. A simple "SPOILERS" in the title of the thread was enough. People are obviously going to avoid the thread if it contains spoilers.

[-Eyeless-]

So if I say Titanic sunk because of an iceberg, I'd have to spoiler it?

No because that is common sense, however if you said "The main character paints a portrait of her naked and they fall in love," then that is more likely to be spoilered... And No I don't know the whole storyline of the titanic lol

[GommeInc]

Yes but people talk about how good a film was it is totally fine to look at the thread if you want to find out what people think but that shouldn't mean they have to see plot spoilers...
They will, because what else will you talk about in a film thread?

"It was good"
"I suspected that"

Bland comments. People will talk about how X killed Y and how X fell madly in love with Z but didn't realise Y was a mutant. Forcing people to spoil their own threads (and I mean spoiler tag and spoil as in ruin their threads) because someone hasn't got common sense to realise that if people are talking about Prince Caspian they are going to see plot lines that will spoil it for them. I don't even think that happens :S

[-Eyeless-]

They will, because what else will you talk about in a film thread?

"It was good"
"I suspected that"

Bland comments. People will talk about how X killed Y and how X fell madly in love with Z but didn't realise Y was a mutant. Forcing people to spoil their own threads (and I mean spoiler tag and spoil as in ruin their threads) because someone hasn't got common sense to realise that if people are talking about Prince Caspian they are going to see plot lines that will spoil it for them. I don't even think that happens :S

Thats a very single minded view, yes maybe you will say things like that, but some people say, "I really liked the way the director portrayed so and so character" Etc.

And people are interested in that aswell.

[Kardan]

No because that is common sense, however if you said "The main character paints a portrait of her naked and they fall in love," then that is more likely to be spoilered... And No I don't know the whole storyline of the titanic lol

Well, it's common sense to not go into a thread called

'Doctor Who Final Episode Discussion'

If you don't want it spoilt...

[Plank]

Thats a very single minded view, yes maybe you will say things like that, but some people say, "I really liked the way the director portrayed so and so character" Etc.

And people are interested in that aswell.
But surely if they haven't seen the film/program which is going to "spoil" it for them, why would they be looking in a thread about that film?

[GommeInc]

Thats a very single minded view, yes maybe you will say things like that, but some people say, "I really liked the way the director portrayed so and so character" Etc.

And people are interested in that aswell.
That's single minded too. People will talk about a mix of things, plot lines as in who did what to who and where and how directors did this and that with the camera angles. It's nearly as if you're suggesting Habbox Forum should only let one type of film person register, who won't talk about the plot, but the editing and filming of a film :/

[-Eyeless-]

Because it would have spoilers tags in it due to the rules!!!!!!!!!!!!!


That's single minded too. People will talk about a mix of things, plot lines as in who did what to who and where and how directors did this and that with the camera angles. It's nearly as if you're suggesting Habbox Forum should only let one type of film person register, who won't talk about the plot, but the editing and filming of a film :/

No it isn't single minded because my point was that there is a diversity in what people will say :rolleyes:

[Plank]

It seems to be mods v members on this one. Maybe a poll or something should be set up? Just because it is in the rules doesn't mean you have to agree. I personally think the argument against is much stronger than the argument for.

[The Professor]

They will, because what else will you talk about in a film thread?

"It was good"
"I suspected that"

Bland comments. People will talk about how X killed Y and how X fell madly in love with Z but didn't realise Y was a mutant. Forcing people to spoil their own threads (and I mean spoiler tag and spoil as in ruin their threads) because someone hasn't got common sense to realise that if people are talking about Prince Caspian they are going to see plot lines that will spoil it for them. I don't even think that happens :S

People can use posts like that as reviews which could ultimately decide whether they see the film or not. It works on the same principle as game reviews; if you go on gamefaqs they'll say "xyz was good, abc was bad" etc but won't give away any major plot points.

[Coldplay]

I agree that it's a stupid rule, dont start saying it's Mods v Members, ultimately we are just memebers remember?

At the end of the day, a rule needs to be put in place - soon, which clarifies what needs to be spoilered and what doesn't.

[GommeInc]

No it isn't single minded because my point was that there is a diversity in what people will say :rolleyes:
So why do you think members need to be spoon fed information? It's clear that if members don't want to find out about a film, program or book, they simply won't view the thread. If they make claims that they should of been spoilered, we should happily call them idiots :/

There shouldn't be a rule, but a reminder put in forum descriptions saying "If you do not want to know about the plot of a film/program/book/show (depending on forum), don't view any threads relating to that subject." It's obvious.

[-Eyeless-]

People can use posts like that as reviews which could ultimately decide whether they see the film or not. It works on the same principle as game reviews; if you go on gamefaqs they'll say "xyz was good, abc was bad" etc but won't give away any major plot points.

Exactly :)


So why do you think members need to be spoon fed information? It's clear that if members don't want to find out about a film, program or book, they simply won't view the thread. If they make claims that they should of been spoilered, we should happily call them idiots :/

I never said they should be spoon fed? I said it should be alright for them to look at a thread to find out how good a film was without having the film spoiled, hence the reason for having spoilers!

[Plank]

I agree that it's a stupid rule, dont start saying it's Mods v Members, ultimately we are just memebers remember?

At the end of the day, a rule needs to be put in place - soon, which clarifies what needs to be spoilered and what doesn't.
Yes you are members - but if you look back through this thread it is only moderators that don't agree. Coincidence?

[Coldplay]

Entertainment Moderators, who, have to read all these threads that should be spoilered, and a LOT of things get spoilt for us, maybe thats a contributory factor?

[Kardan]

Entertainment Moderators, who, have to read all these threads that should be spoilered, and a LOT of things get spoilt for us, maybe thats a contributory factor?

Then don't moderate the entertainment category if you don't like it?

[Plank]

Entertainment Moderators, who, have to read all these threads that should be spoilered, and a LOT of things get spoilt for us, maybe thats a contributory factor?
As a moderator, you'd have to read information whether it was in a spoiler tag or not.

[Coldplay]

I LOVE the entertainment category, and you learn to know it well, but at the same time things get spoilt, and it's slightly unfair as all people have to do is use spoilers?

Ultimately, I'm willing to have things spoilt, for this issue to be resolved. I'm all in favour of the rule being abolished completely, but I'd rather it be resolved than abolished.

[GommeInc]

I never said they should be spoon fed? I said it should be alright for them to look at a thread to find out how good a film was without having the film spoiled, hence the reason for having spoilers!
It's a bad idea asking everyone to follow something when there is no need. The obvious thing you do is not view threads regarding a subject you want to watch at a later date. You don't have to view a thread because it's there.


People can use posts like that as reviews which could ultimately decide whether they see the film or not. It works on the same principle as game reviews; if you go on gamefaqs they'll say "xyz was good, abc was bad" etc but won't give away any major plot points.
They're review sites, Habbox Forum is a community which focuses on discussions rather than primarily reviews. Asking everyone to spoil their threads is impossible. The only way you can come close to solving issues like this is within forum descriptions, remind people about threads which could spoil shows etc for someone. Alternatively you could suggest members create their own threads asking what Prince Caspian is like, which will filter out people giving away plot lines, unless they're right donkey holes. This won't lead to multiple threads asking for reviews, because members will see threads asking a question, not giving out information and therefore will view them. It seems easier than forcing people to spoiler everything :/

[Plank]

It shouldn't be abolished - I personally think that the use of spoilers should be calmed down a bit. For example limited spoilers to the first post and title rather than spoiling a whole thread because people should avoid threads which are going to spoil a program. If someone is giving information that isn't related to the title or first post and could spoil the program - then spoilers should be used.

[The Professor]

The draft looks good. Although with Big Brother not everything is shown in the highlights so I think it would be better if it was like "major" story lines should be in spoilers. Although major could be mis-interpreted by different people. Will there be any guidelines for catch up shows?


Yes you are members - but if you look back through this thread it is only moderators that don't agree. Coincidence?

You seemed to agree earlier in the thread :P There don't seem to be any major ammendments to what I wrote earlier, so I think that's what's going to stand unless anyone has any major objections.

Can you expand on your point about big brother? What's a catch-up show? I don't watch it :P

[GommeInc]

It shouldn't be abolished - I personally think that the use of spoilers should be calmed down a bit. For example limited spoilers to the first post and title rather than spoiling a whole thread because people should avoid threads which are going to spoil a program. If someone is giving information that isn't related to the title or first post and could spoil the program - then spoilers should be used.
That seems easier. Ask people to put spoiler in thread titles to tell people this thread will spoil whatever it is about rather than destroy a whole thread with countless and seemingly pointless spoiler tags. If people want reviews, they should ask for them. It's kinda one thing a forum is all about, as well as discussions.

[-Eyeless-]

You seemed to agree earlier in the thread :P There don't seem to be any major ammendments to what I wrote earlier, so I think that's what's going to stand unless anyone has any major objections.

Can you expand on your point about big brother? What's a catch-up show? I don't watch it :P

The catch up show is the one every night at 10 or 9 pm and is what most people watch to find out about what has happened recently in BB

[help23]

hmmm i dont get why we have to use spoiler tags lol :D