View Full Version : Omg. Knives :s
When they said knives are carried by alot of people I didn't believe them.
But my brother (Whos currently at Kings College Uni) got out of a taxi yesterday and saw a woman getting mugged by a ruggy man. My brother pushed him off and a knife fell out of his pocket.
It was similar to this according to my brother http://www.cooksacademy.com/easyedit/pictures/productpictures/utility%20knife%2011cm.jpgWhen it fell out my brother held him to the floor and the sainsburys guards came over and held him there until the police arrived. My brother didn't get a thanks from the woman who got mugged because she was shaken up but the police & guards said thanks because he caught someone who had been continuously doing it.
God, knives everywere
JackBuddy
13-07-2008, 10:24 AM
i have loads in my kitchen but shhhh.
Really, it is a worrying problem. The media don't help the situation whatsoever.
JasminD
13-07-2008, 10:37 AM
i have loads in my kitchen but shhhh.
Really, it is a worrying problem. The media don't help the situation whatsoever.
lmao your signature makes me lol.
knives scare the hell out of me, I refuse to go out on my own at night.
[Chris]
13-07-2008, 12:15 PM
Yeah, is getting a little out of hand now. People feel the need to protect themselves from others with weapons OR use them to get revenge for maybe bullying or something which then leads it back to what i said before (protection)
I think there should be more police out doing "stop and search" because frankly its getting to the point where people are afraid to go out/live a normal life
Its pathetic
Geraint
13-07-2008, 04:13 PM
http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/1307_sos_knife.shtml
Shows how easy it is to get knives these days.
heartbeat
13-07-2008, 04:15 PM
i carry a pen knife
GearsOfWar
13-07-2008, 04:30 PM
If I didn't have a knife to fight them off, I'd be dead.
I saw on the one show they got a girl and gave her money, shes 15 i think and said try buy as many knives as she can. She managed to buy loads including a massive knife.
I don't either dare go out at night. Don't like it at all.
Virgin Mary
13-07-2008, 06:00 PM
It'll eventually become guns though cos most people have knives now so people are moving onto guns.
AMERlCA...
13-07-2008, 06:02 PM
i carry a knife for protection :D
jackass
13-07-2008, 06:05 PM
It really is getting beyond our control now.
Its actually pretty damn scary.
Yoshimitsui
13-07-2008, 06:20 PM
i carry a knife for protection :D
A knife is the most dumbest protective aid you could possibly cary. Worse than a gun in some sense.
PaintYourTarget
13-07-2008, 06:25 PM
When I'm out at night I usually have a can of spray paint on me, give it a quick blast to the face and just run.
Obviously, that's when I'm not up town - then I just rely on my mates to have my back.
Stacey.
13-07-2008, 06:30 PM
I'm sometimes afraid of walking on my own at night, but thats because me and my friends got attacked at night by a group of people who went on to commit armed robbery fifteen minutes later.
I don't think theres anything we can do to stop people carrying knifes, there's more and more people everyday, probably for protection more than violence.
If you carry a knife or gun or w.e weapon.
If you attack them in self defence and they grab it or you drop it. What are you going to do now?
Experting
13-07-2008, 07:45 PM
Thats why i made a group about knife crime
Join it by going here;
www.habbo.co.uk/groups/respectyourlife (http://www.habboxforum.com/www.habbo.co.uk/groups/respectyourlife)
Technologic
13-07-2008, 08:03 PM
The only knife i have is my diving knife... Big beastly thing but i have it strapped onto my drysuit so i can only use it when diving
Joshuae
13-07-2008, 08:05 PM
Thats why i made a group about knife crime
Join it by going here;
www.habbo.co.uk/groups/respectyourlife (http://www.habboxforum.com/www.habbo.co.uk/groups/respectyourlife)
No-one cares...
Post this in the Habbo Section.
The only knife i have is my diving knife... Big beastly thing but i have it strapped onto my drysuit so i can only use it when diving
Yeah I've seen them, they'd chop your hand right off. :P
But, the British crime rate is rising due to the obvious understanding of our judicial system, and our crappy police, it's even easier to get away with murder, and if caught you get released early.
Jordy
13-07-2008, 08:11 PM
Thats why i made a group about knife crime
Join it by going here;
www.habbo.co.uk/groups/respectyourlife (http://www.habboxforum.com/www.habbo.co.uk/groups/respectyourlife)
Because that's really helping the situation, it's nice that you care but seriously it really doesn't matter.
About a decade ago Guns were the thing, they successfully drove guns out of many parts of the UK, it's now knives what people use. So it's knives are the new guns not the other way round. Guns you can stop at least, knives it's very difficult.
Stop & Search's don't get the police anywhere, all these anti-racism groups make the situation worse because whenever a black man gets searched it's classed as racism, it's no wonder the police aren't stopping and searching people so much, they get moaned at whenever even though it's the governments fault.
I'd personally never carry a knife as if your caught there's some reasonable punishments and a criminal record...
Joshuae
13-07-2008, 08:25 PM
Because that's really helping the situation, it's nice that you care but seriously it really doesn't matter.
About a decade ago Guns were the thing, they successfully drove guns out of many parts of the UK, it's now knives what people use. So it's knives are the new guns not the other way round. Guns you can stop at least, knives it's very difficult.
Stop & Search's don't get the police anywhere, all these anti-racism groups make the situation worse because whenever a black man gets searched it's classed as racism, it's no wonder the police aren't stopping and searching people so much, they get moaned at whenever even though it's the governments fault.
I'd personally never carry a knife as if your caught there's some reasonable punishments and a criminal record...
Yeah exactly, search a white man, immediate arrest,
search a black man, you face being sued and losing your job for racism.
alexxxxx
13-07-2008, 08:25 PM
I don't think the whole thing about knives about people buying them is a problem. To get a knife, all you need to do is to go into your kitchen right?
I'm not going to pretend I understand the problems why people carry knives - I assume it's because everyone else does in gang-land areas.
Joshuae
13-07-2008, 08:27 PM
;4904909']I don't think the whole thing about knives about people buying them is a problem. To get a knife, all you need to do is to go into your kitchen right?
I'm not going to pretend I understand the problems why people carry knives - I assume it's because everyone else does in gang-land areas.
Mostly, it's fear driven by the media-headlines of gangs.
N-Dubz
13-07-2008, 10:02 PM
Actually they search everyone down where I live now? There was a "people's day" fair thing, and everyone who went in was stopped and searched, bags removed, shoe's off and they searched you. Whereas 10 year's ago that wouldn't have happened - it shows there's way more threat.
Maybe its because life means so little nowdays, it can easily be ended and going to "prision" is no biggy honestly, people arn't scared of the consquences anymore. An thats just the truth right there!
I'm not scared going out I wouldn't take it that far lol. At the end of the day even if you carry a knife your planning to use it, end of and its people who think they should carry it for defence that are making the situation even worse.
Your brother's really brave, alot of people would walk on past nowdays. No one sticks up for anyone anymore its to much of a threat.
Virgin Mary
13-07-2008, 10:31 PM
They should search obvious culprits i.e. people wearing tracksuits and flat peaks and that.
Loser
13-07-2008, 11:57 PM
At least people aren't shooting eachother here.
It makes me really sad to see things like this. Britain has really gone down hill in the last 10 years.
I used to love my country, now...im not really proud to be British @ all. :(
N-Dubz
14-07-2008, 09:23 AM
At least people aren't shooting eachother here.
How long till knive's get boring and people start using guns?
Not long.
I would say I'm proud to be british its not a big deal on my behalf, I'm not the one stabbing people.. An in some countries its far worse.
Tristan
14-07-2008, 02:09 PM
How long till knive's get boring and people start using guns?
Not long.
I would say I'm proud to be british its not a big deal on my behalf, I'm not the one stabbing people.. An in some countries its far worse.
er guns are much harder to get hold of. And obviously they'd get silencers because otherwise if you shoot someone the police would be down on you like a shot? :rolleyes:
Guns won't be primarily used in a long time.
The media advertise knife crime too much & I think that the death penalty should be enforced.
Why doesn't it really work in the US? I think because they allow them to wield guns...
N-Dubz
14-07-2008, 04:20 PM
er guns are much harder to get hold of. And obviously they'd get silencers because otherwise if you shoot someone the police would be down on you like a shot? :rolleyes:
Guns won't be primarily used in a long time.
The media advertise knife crime too much & I think that the death penalty should be enforced.
Why doesn't it really work in the US? I think because they allow them to wield guns...
Gun's are not hard to get in America anymore, how do you know it won't be that easy here soon.
So will police with knife crime, espically since the media are making it so public the police have to start taking proper action.
A life for a life? Your telling them NOT to kill people, and doing that to them make's sense dosn't it. What if you get the wrong person and they kill them? Think please.
Stephen08
14-07-2008, 05:12 PM
i carry a knife for protection :D
Well that must mean you are an idiot obviously.. :)
alexxxxx
14-07-2008, 05:14 PM
Gun's are not hard to get in America anymore, how do you know it won't be that easy here soon.
So will police with knife crime, espically since the media are making it so public the police have to start taking proper action.
A life for a life? Your telling them NOT to kill people, and doing that to them make's sense dosn't it. What if you get the wrong person and they kill them? Think please.
It's not hard to get one because you can walk into a shop and buy one - that's why it's not hard.
N-Dubz
14-07-2008, 05:25 PM
;4907104']It's not hard to get one because you can walk into a shop and buy one - that's why it's not hard.
Exactly, whats to say that wont happen over here?
:S
RichardKnox
14-07-2008, 10:32 PM
Exactly, whats to say that wont happen over here?
:S
Because by law you aren't entitled to have a gun, and in the current state I doubt the government will change it. Knowing ours they will though...
graffiti
14-07-2008, 10:33 PM
jeez that looks sharp
lPinoy
14-07-2008, 10:37 PM
Yeah, tbh the knife crime just keeps going on.
Everytime I leave my house, theres a worry that I get stabbed or possibly killed.
I try to avoid going out at nights (and days) except when i go to school.
Janczyk
14-07-2008, 10:47 PM
The pen is mightier than the sword.
I wouldent be able to stab someone lmao so wouldent carry one.
Loads of people have weapons in liverpool, somethin we gotta live with i suppose
Loser
14-07-2008, 11:22 PM
Exactly, whats to say that wont happen over here?
:S
Laws. In American anyone without a criminal record can have a gun. You can go to Walmart and get them. Here, on the other hand, you cannot get a gun.
Tristan
14-07-2008, 11:22 PM
Gun's are not hard to get in America anymore, how do you know it won't be that easy here soon.
So will police with knife crime, espically since the media are making it so public the police have to start taking proper action.
A life for a life? Your telling them NOT to kill people, and doing that to them make's sense dosn't it. What if you get the wrong person and they kill them? Think please.
LOL.
Perhaps because their laws allow them to purchase and wield guns in America? It is obvious that the UK wouldn't bring that in, especially after the obsession with murder and knives. Think please.
Er what? dnt get that bit.
But the media advertise it and youths are becoming more aware of the problems with knives and the fear and they do not fear to use knives nearly as much. If other people are doing it regularly and others find out about it they think that they can get away with it and is normal with all these regular murders.
Of course it makes sense. Seeing as it is happening so regularly it shows that people are not in fear of spending their life in jail. The death penalty will give them something to fear and they would so rarely commit the crime because of their fears. They feel like they are in power as they can take a life so easily by just stabbing a random person in the street. They would not be in power if they committed the crime as their life would not be in their hands.
What if you get the wrong person? Hah, that would so rarely happen. If it did not happen so very rarely then the USA would not be using the penalty. I think that the "What if they are not the real offender?!" response is so childish and stupid. It's the tiniest, tiniest chance of happening but people think that their morales are so important and correct that their argument against the death penalty is the more humane and the right side.
Think please.
RageAgainst
15-07-2008, 01:06 AM
I don't live in the UK, but I like collecting them. I never carry them around though.
helenhiya
15-07-2008, 12:53 PM
theres been about 1 knife crime where i live in the past 20 years :D
N-Dubz
15-07-2008, 02:25 PM
LOL.
Perhaps because their laws allow them to purchase and wield guns in America? It is obvious that the UK wouldn't bring that in, especially after the obsession with murder and knives. Think please.
Er what? dnt get that bit.
But the media advertise it and youths are becoming more aware of the problems with knives and the fear and they do not fear to use knives nearly as much. If other people are doing it regularly and others find out about it they think that they can get away with it and is normal with all these regular murders.
Of course it makes sense. Seeing as it is happening so regularly it shows that people are not in fear of spending their life in jail. The death penalty will give them something to fear and they would so rarely commit the crime because of their fears. They feel like they are in power as they can take a life so easily by just stabbing a random person in the street. They would not be in power if they committed the crime as their life would not be in their hands.
What if you get the wrong person? Hah, that would so rarely happen. If it did not happen so very rarely then the USA would not be using the penalty. I think that the "What if they are not the real offender?!" response is so childish and stupid. It's the tiniest, tiniest chance of happening but people think that their morales are so important and correct that their argument against the death penalty is the more humane and the right side.
Think please.
It could still happen espically since we live in a stupid country, but okay back down to that!
No there not scared of jail but killing them is just sending the wrong message, everyone deserves a second chance. They should be sent to the Army or Military not killed you idiot.
If we killed them there mother would grieve, there family would grieve and I'm pretty sure that's wrong. Yes they killed someone but they don't desereve to be killed themselves, they should have to do labour, work hard and LIVE with the guilt and the fact they did kill someone. As much as you don't see it they do feel guilt every single day of there lives, I'm sure. An we're teaching them not to kill people to throw a death penetly on there ****'s is just throwing the whole point of it away..
So why let them have the easy way out and kill them? I'd much rather they were sent somewhere else then Prison. Being killed is just a pathetic way out - giving them the chance to be free.
An as for getting the wrong person, how do you know? What if you was the unlucky person who got caught when you was there but didn't stab the lad. I'm sure you wouldn't wanna flippin die would you?
THINK PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh and by the way, do we have to copy the USA.. I dont see them with lesser crime levels and they still have death penelty don't they?
Edited by lAscend (Forum Super Moderator): Please don't insult other forum members.
stickwitu
15-07-2008, 02:31 PM
THINK PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!
oh shut up.
just because the stabbings are seen more on TV it does not whatsoever mean that people will go out and kill others just because one out of however many hundred criminals got away with it.
N-Dubz
15-07-2008, 02:32 PM
THINK PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!
oh shut up.
just because the stabbings are seen more on TV it does not whatsoever mean that people will go out and kill others just because one out of however many hundred criminals got away with it.
shutup alex before i stab u with ma kitchen knife
helenhiya
15-07-2008, 02:34 PM
knife crime aint even that big an issue in the uk?
According to radio 1:
The amount of deaths and injuries through knife crime has actually stayed about the same in england and wales for the past ten years, the only place it's gone up is in Scotland - but even in Scotland it's not gone up by much.
And, also according to newsbeat, on average, 250 people a year die from knife crime. On average, 3000 a year die from road accidents. So how come people aren't going mental about road accidents?
The only reason it seems like there's such a problem with knives right now is because the press are choosing to report on pretty much every incident of knife crime. It hasn't become more frequent, they just didn't bother to write about it as much before.
N-Dubz
15-07-2008, 02:47 PM
knife crime aint even that big an issue in the uk?
According to radio 1:
The amount of deaths and injuries through knife crime has actually stayed about the same in england and wales for the past ten years, the only place it's gone up is in Scotland - but even in Scotland it's not gone up by much.
And, also according to newsbeat, on average, 250 people a year die from knife crime. On average, 3000 a year die from road accidents. So how come people aren't going mental about road accidents?
The only reason it seems like there's such a problem with knives right now is because the press are choosing to report on pretty much every incident of knife crime. It hasn't become more frequent, they just didn't bother to write about it as much before.
Do you not watch the new's?
It has gone up, knives have walked into teenager's lives and stayed there. I live in a part where its pretty rough and trust me its a very big issue.
You don't live in a dangered place do you? Apparently there's only been 1 knife crime in 20 year's where you live? Well you dont feel it then. Its horriable thing and I'm glad there trying there best to stop it before it does get out of control.
stickwitu
15-07-2008, 02:47 PM
it doesn't matter if the crime rate hasn't increased, it's the fact that it's finally getting some action and notice that matters. the problem needs to be addressed and i'm glad it finally is.
road accidents - yeah, not all of those are deliberate like stabbings. you don't just "accidently" stab someone..
helenhiya
15-07-2008, 02:50 PM
Do you not watch the new's?
It has gone up, knives have walked into teenager's lives and stayed there. I live in a part where its pretty rough and trust me its a very big issue.
You don't live in a dangered place do you? Apparently there's only been 1 knife crime in 20 year's where you live? Well you dont feel it then. Its horriable thing and I'm glad there trying there best to stop it before it does get out of control.
Yeah I watch the news, and have they actually given any statistics or anything to show it's going up? I doubt Radio 1's newsbeat is just going to make up some figures.
Nope I don't live in a dangerous place but that doesn't mean my opinion on it doesn't count. We have plenty of violence, just not above the norm. The fact that you do makes your opinion mean less actually, because being in a rough area, it's obviously going to seem more of an issue to you.
it doesn't matter if the crime rate hasn't increased, it's the fact that it's finally getting some action and notice that matters. the problem needs to be addressed and i'm glad it finally is.
road accidents - yeah, not all of those are deliberate like stabbings. you don't just "accidently" stab someone..
I never claimed that stabbings were an accident :S and does it matter if it's an accident, if someone dies? It's still more of a problem.
And i'm not saying knife crime isn't an issue, i'm just saying i don't think it's as big an issue as the press is making out.
stickwitu
15-07-2008, 02:55 PM
sorry but it's pretty much an issue everywhere at the moment.
don't be so rude. you make it sound as if you're taking a superior position just because the area you live in has low knife crime.
knife crime has all areas reacting.
N-Dubz
15-07-2008, 02:57 PM
Yeah I watch the news, and have they actually given any statistics or anything to show it's going up? I doubt Radio 1's newsbeat is just going to make up some figures.
Nope I don't live in a dangerous place but that doesn't mean my opinion on it doesn't count. We have plenty of violence, just not above the norm. The fact that you do makes your opinion mean less actually, because being in a rough area, it's obviously going to seem more of an issue to you.
My opinion dosn't mean less dear, thats why there trying to come to our school's, talk to us and convince us not to carry knives. We are the people there trying to tackle or maybe you think there tackling your area where there's hardly no knife crime.
An yes living in a rough area dosn't mean nothing there probably trying to get to our area's before they warn yours.
Its an issue in every area, so don't try and make it sound like because I live in a rough area where knife crime's high I dont matter.
helenhiya
15-07-2008, 03:01 PM
My opinion dosn't mean less dear, thats why there trying to come to our school's, talk to us and convince us not to carry knives. We are the people there trying to tackle or maybe you think there tackling your area where there's hardly no knife crime.
An yes living in a rough area dosn't mean nothing there probably trying to get to our area's before they warn yours.
Its an issue in every area, so don't try and make it sound like because I live in a rough area where knife crime's high I dont matter.
I wasn't saying you don't matter :S!?
I just meant that to you knife crime is going to seem like more of a problem than it actually is, so your opinon is going to be a bit biased.
and why would i think they're tackling my area? :S that just made no sense.
sorry but it's pretty much an issue everywhere at the moment.
don't be so rude. you make it sound as if you're taking a superior position just because the area you live in has low knife crime.
knife crime has all areas reacting.
It isn't an issue everywhere, only in certain areas. Even the news has said that.
And i haven't been rude, and haven't said anything to suggest i'm superior because my area doesn't have a knife crime issue. You've just fabricated that.
Just because I'm saying it's going to seem like a bigger problem to areas where it's getting worse (which is common sense) doesn't mean I'm saying i'm superior?!?
N-Dubz
15-07-2008, 03:03 PM
You said my opinion means less then yours..
No mine means the same as yours, 'cept I live there and it is a massive issue where I live.
If knife crime came to your area I'm sure you wouldn't be saying its a "small" issue. You wouldn't say you opinion means less than anyone else's.
When your town has knife crime which is high you'll understand, and I'm insulted you say my opinion means less then your's just because I live in an area where knife crime is.
stickwitu
15-07-2008, 03:06 PM
It isn't an issue everywhere, only in certain areas. Even the news has said that.
And i haven't been rude, and haven't said anything to suggest i'm superior because my area doesn't have a knife crime issue. You've just fabricated that.
Just because I'm saying it's going to seem like a bigger problem to areas where it's getting worse (which is common sense) doesn't mean I'm saying i'm superior?!?
Yes, but it effects ALL areas, there may be a low rate of knife crime in some areas but that means there is still some, and everyone around the country and even the world is talking about the issue, so therefore it is a nation wide issue if everyone is getting involved..
helenhiya
15-07-2008, 03:45 PM
You said my opinion means less then yours..
No mine means the same as yours, 'cept I live there and it is a massive issue where I live.
If knife crime came to your area I'm sure you wouldn't be saying its a "small" issue. You wouldn't say you opinion means less than anyone else's.
When your town has knife crime which is high you'll understand, and I'm insulted you say my opinion means less then your's just because I live in an area where knife crime is.
I didn't say less than mine, and all i meant by that was that yours might be biased. Sorry if it sounded anything different, I didn't mean it doesn't matter.
There's nothing to understand, I'm not saying it's not a problem, and I know it must be really bad for people who've had to deal with it, all i'm saying is that I don't think it's as much of an issue as the press is making out.
They could make out there was a rape frenzy on too if they wanted, by choosing to report every incident of rape. It's kind of the same.
:|
i never said was a small issue so don't quote that :/ all i've said is that I don't think it's as bad as the press makes out. Jeeesus.
Yes, but it effects ALL areas, there may be a low rate of knife crime in some areas but that means there is still some, and everyone around the country and even the world is talking about the issue, so therefore it is a nation wide issue if everyone is getting involved..
So when everyone was talking about Britney's breakdown was it a nationwide issue?
Yeah there is knife crime, all i'm saying is that i don't think it's as bad as the media makes out. Is it that hard to grasp!? :S
N-Dubz
15-07-2008, 03:47 PM
It is as bad as the media makes it out to be, and will continue to get worse.
helenhiya
15-07-2008, 03:48 PM
It is as bad as the media makes it out to be, and will continue to get worse.
and how do you know that!? :S
Firehorse
15-07-2008, 03:53 PM
Your brother was lucky that he didn't get stabbed himself. Heroic justice :P
I would be extremely amazed if my brother did something like that.
N-Dubz
15-07-2008, 04:17 PM
and how do you know that!? :S
Its already getting worse, it will just continue if nothing get's done about it.
Slowpoke
15-07-2008, 04:23 PM
It's silly carrying them, you're more likely to have your own knife used on yourself than you bringing harm to someone else. Knives are magnets for trouble!
alexxxxx
16-07-2008, 09:54 AM
Yes, but it effects ALL areas, there may be a low rate of knife crime in some areas but that means there is still some, and everyone around the country and even the world is talking about the issue, so therefore it is a nation wide issue if everyone is getting involved..
Knife crime doesn't affect all areas at all, and where in the world are they talking about Britain's knife crime? >_>
N-Dubz
16-07-2008, 03:59 PM
;4912102']Knife crime doesn't affect all areas at all, and where in the world are they talking about Britain's knife crime? >_>
It does affect most area's, just some area's have theres more publicised, some area's knife crime is more common.
Wouldn't it be good to stop knife crime till it spread's even more? If people think they can get away with it then this whole knife crime will continue.
stickwitu
16-07-2008, 04:04 PM
;4912102']Knife crime doesn't affect all areas at all, and where in the world are they talking about Britain's knife crime? >_>
america
aka perez hilton
which millions of people view everyday from around the world
Knives aint the problem round where i live anymore, the kids round my estate are moving on to bigger and bangier things.
I think theres proberly around 10 guns circulating round my estate at the moment including a couple of glochs and a colt.
Its worrying, whats more worrying is i heard about the colt from my 11 year old cousin!
RhymeThatGrime
16-07-2008, 09:08 PM
Glocks can do some damage :P
Colin-Roberts
16-07-2008, 11:36 PM
I carry a knife.. but it's for work and general use.. considering i live in the country almost everyone caries a knife for general farm work ect..
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