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Joshuae
13-07-2008, 08:12 PM
Well, it's up and coming, I can bet.

Russia threaten America with Military force,
Irans Missile.

It would kick off in the middle east, as USA prepares for a war with Russia
the Middle Eastern powers rise up and attack USA, so they fight 2 wars,
China seizes this chance and invades. United Kingdom steps in against China.


Now, when the invasion begins (if it does) I could bet Russia/China invading Canada, then Alaska to disable it's fleet.

Opinions?

Jordy
13-07-2008, 08:25 PM
I laughed. This is another one of them fantasies, I can't believe your even imaging they're invading Canada etc. If you could analyse all that, you've got a bright future ahead of you... All that is your imagination and that's why I'm not going to argue with you, there's little evidence this will happen at all. It may appear like it's all preparing for war, but that depends on how pessimistically look at every event.

In the past 60 years there's been much bigger tension's between countries in the world, this is nothing compared to them and if you look at history, none of the two previous world war's started like this.

War is something that's avoided, you may not believe it but World War II was attempted to be avoided, they didn't all want to invade each other and waste a load of money and lives on a war. The league of nations kept letting Hitler getting away with things as they wanted to avoid a war at all costs.

Joshuae
13-07-2008, 08:28 PM
I laughed. This is another one of them fantasies, I can't believe your even imaging they're invading Canada etc. If you could analyse all that, you've got a bright future ahead of you... All that is your imagination and that's why I'm not going to argue with you, there's little evidence this will happen at all. It may appear like it's all preparing for war, but that depends on how pessimistically look at every event.

In the past 60 years there's been much bigger tension's between countries in the world, this is nothing compared to them and if you look at history, none of the two previous world war's started like this.

War is something that's avoided, you may not believe it but World War II was attempted to be avoided, they didn't all want to invade each other and waste a load of money and lives on a war. The league of nations kept letting Hitler getting away with things as they wanted to avoid a war at all costs.

'Twas an assumption, and yes, when the previous two started, we didn't have nucleur missiles, or missiles capable of hitting israel did we?

But, you've mis-read as per usual, if USA carry on with the missile shield.
Russia will declare war, the middle east will take this as a chance and rise against the forces left there.

PaintYourTarget
13-07-2008, 08:30 PM
The time of World Hostility has passed and a fair amount of nations are working together on Global Warming and economic problems to bother with a war. Iran and North Korea are just pretending to be big, but they wont do anything, Iran's been testing missiles for years, infact this is like the 3rd time I've heard of a super new missile that can kill Israel...

There'll be the tribal squabbles in Africa, drug wars in South America and the Insurgancy in the Middle East, but that's it for a fair few years. The war is on Terrorists now, not other nations.

Joshuae
13-07-2008, 08:34 PM
The time of World Hostility has passed and a fair amount of nations are working together on Global Warming and economic problems to bother with a war. Iran and North Korea are just pretending to be big, but they wont do anything, Iran's been testing missiles for years, infact this is like the 3rd time I've heard of a super new missile that can kill Israel...

There'll be the tribal squabbles in Africa, drug wars in South America and the Insurgancy in the Middle East, but that's it for a fair few years. The war is on Terrorists now, not other nations.


Yeah, but can't dismiss the fact, about Russia.
But I understand your point. :P

PaintYourTarget
13-07-2008, 08:36 PM
Russia will pull up a few tacticle (that looks like I've spelt it horrifically wrong =[) airstrikes against Polish or where-ever the damn thing's being built positions and that'll be it. If it even gets to that stage... American Congress will probably scrap the whole idea due to costs or something like that - they have a tendancy of doing that.

Jordy
13-07-2008, 08:40 PM
'Twas an assumption, and yes, when the previous two started, we didn't have nucleur missiles, or missiles capable of hitting israel did we?

But, you've mis-read as per usual, if USA carry on with the missile shield.
Russia will declare war, the middle east will take this as a chance and rise against the forces left there.Would the USA be stupid enough to put them there though? Russia have threatened and it doesn't look like an empty threat at all. The American's wouldn't be stupid enough to waste their time, money and dignity putting missiles there which are going to be destroyed. Even if they do go ahead, I can't see how this would signal a war.

It's more of a arms race again, it's lots of threats (some of which are empty) and it's not even at that bad of a stage at the moment.

What do you mean by the middle east having revenge? I don't see Israel attacking America as they are America. Iran, they've got strong relations with the Russian's, most their arms come from Russia and some of their nuclear information, though a lot of that is from North Korea. Iran at the moment don't need to start a war with the American's and they know the odds are stacked against them.

We then have the Saudi's who have a very strong army, much like lots of other oil wealthy nations in that area, they're all very rich and they have a strong army, mainly as a threat if anything, the majority of them has never been tested. The Saudi's are a good friend of the American's so they'd presumably destroy Iran with the help of the Israeli's if the Iranian's did anything (which they won't). However should the Saudi's ever be upset by the American's, they have the most oil in the world, they can prevent the world from going round as far as I can see it. But if they do that they won't be getting money, infact they wouldn't be getting anything so they wouldn't bother.

The American's see nothing in Russia, I don't think many countries see much in Russia. China are heavily linked but as a communist country they're very much to themselves and because of their huge trading links, getting involved in a war would do them no good at all, they just don't need a war.

Virgin Mary
13-07-2008, 10:40 PM
Wars between countries don't mean world wars, there's been loads of major wars since the world wars e.g. Cold war, Falklands war, Vietnam war, Korean war. If it happens then it happens and we'll probably all die lol.

Ekalb
14-07-2008, 12:52 AM
There's more to the Iran and Israel thing than just that missile, there's pleanty of tension and a lot more pieces to it.

If stuff does break out it won't be 'World War III' unless pretty much everyone gets involved and all these conflicts grow into big wars. But in this day an age with all the treatys and alliances and trade agreements and everything it's really a bad idea to start a World War, this is what one of my history teachers was getting at when he explained how unlikey it was for there to be another world war.

Slowpoke
14-07-2008, 01:36 AM
All we know is that if there was another world war, it would probably result in the end of the world as we know it.

N-Dubz
14-07-2008, 09:36 AM
I wouldn't say it would be the end of the world, but there would sure be alot of damage. The weapon's countries have nowdays are unbeliveable and alot of people would die but not everyone.

I'm sure there will be a world war soon, its highly predicted.

Espically now we have countries run by total nutcase's and idiot's.

Viruz
14-07-2008, 10:39 AM
sum1 uses nukes everbody loses:rolleyes:

PaintYourTarget
14-07-2008, 02:34 PM
sum1 uses nukes everbody loses:rolleyes:
If we look at the statistics of Past Nuclear Weapon usage, that statement is 100% false. Statistically, only Japan loses when Nuke's are used.

And, would the end of the world as we know it really be a bad thing? 9/11 taught us that mass destruction brings nations together. Perhaps losing a few cities to a nuke would unite this nation against a common enemy and put an end to all the violence we're inflicting on ourselves?

cocaine
14-07-2008, 02:37 PM
If we look at the statistics of Past Nuclear Weapon usage, that statement is 100% false. Statistically, only Japan loses when Nuke's are used.

And, would the end of the world as we know it really be a bad thing? 9/11 taught us that mass destruction brings nations together. Perhaps losing a few cities to a nuke would unite this nation against a common enemy and put an end to all the violence we're inflicting on ourselves?

i think its quite sad that we have to lose actual lives in order to see the descruction we cause to ourselves.

Viruz
14-07-2008, 02:40 PM
but when the atom bombs used in world war II were like 13 kilotons and the trident missles the United Kingdom have are 100 kilotons i think its bad news:rolleyes:

PaintYourTarget
14-07-2008, 02:41 PM
i think its quite sad that we have to lose actual lives in order to see the descruction we cause to ourselves.
Something to think about though, eh?

And what makes that different Viruz? The fact that one missile can cause more destruction is enough to deter other nations from responding or from using.
There's been a lot of interest in Tactical Nukes, smaller than the Hiroshima and Nagasaki ones, to use in the battlefield to eliminate vast quantities of enemy troops and footholds. In fact, there's rumour that one of these were used in Iraq, and I'll find you the videos. But that is still nuclear war, just without world apocolypse.

Iraq Nuke video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rn0RMJ565eE), skip to 3:50.

Ontario
14-07-2008, 07:29 PM
but when the atom bombs used in world war II were like 13 kilotons and the trident missles the United Kingdom have are 100 kilotons i think its bad news:rolleyes:

haha hes right

Virgin Mary
15-07-2008, 02:49 PM
You can't honestly think that governments care about who they use nukes on.

Leetzgirl
15-07-2008, 02:57 PM
Something to think about though, eh?

And what makes that different Viruz? The fact that one missile can cause more destruction is enough to deter other nations from responding or from using.
There's been a lot of interest in Tactical Nukes, smaller than the Hiroshima and Nagasaki ones, to use in the battlefield to eliminate vast quantities of enemy troops and footholds. In fact, there's rumour that one of these were used in Iraq, and I'll find you the videos. But that is still nuclear war, just without world apocolypse.

Iraq Nuke video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rn0RMJ565eE), skip to 3:50.


You do not call that a nuke in that youtube vid. :rolleyes:

PaintYourTarget
16-07-2008, 02:20 PM
You do not call that a nuke in that youtube vid. :rolleyes:
Tactical, not WMD, dear. Didn't you read any of what I said?

I'm going to give up arguing on these threads. There's seriously little to no point as we will never get an answer and it's just wasted effort.

HotelUser
16-07-2008, 07:41 PM
Oh really....invade Canada? Yeah, right:rolleyes:..

jackass
16-07-2008, 08:43 PM
A Three World War scenario was developed several decades ago (see Conspiratorial History (http://www.threeworldwars.com/intro.htm)). Two World Wars have already been achieved, and the Third and final World War envisions an attack on Iraq, Iran and/or Syria as being the trigger to set the entire Middle East into fiery conflagration. Once America is firmly entrenched into the Middle East with the majority of her first-line units, North Korea is to attack South Korea. Then, with America's forces stretched well beyond the limit, China is to invade Taiwan. This will usher in the start of World War Three.

Uh oh. :(

Meti
17-07-2008, 12:23 PM
If there will be a war, it will be a World War Three. But Iran's president said he did NOT want any wars.

Frodo13.
17-07-2008, 03:25 PM
If there will be a war, it will be a World War Three. But Iran's president said he did NOT want any wars.

Only because if he said he did, America would be down on Iran like a tonne of bricks.

lScottl2
17-07-2008, 03:57 PM
To be honest no-one really wants a war, I doubt even Hitler wanted a war.

PaintYourTarget
17-07-2008, 04:01 PM
To be honest no-one really wants a war, I doubt even Hitler wanted a war.
He did, just not in 1939.

cocaine
17-07-2008, 04:38 PM
To be honest no-one really wants a war, I doubt even Hitler wanted a war.

hitler loved violence and fighting.

GommeInc
17-07-2008, 05:21 PM
Why would the UK go to war with China? I don't think we have a problem with them and they don't have a problem with us... If there was the slightest whiff of a conflict, it would be talked about, not a few shots fired at them... America ask for a war anyway with Russia, by building pointless missile shields. That's just like throwing stones at a lion in the zoo, sooner or later they'll get frustrated :P

PaintYourTarget
17-07-2008, 05:24 PM
Yeah, I don't get why we need a missile shield and I don't get why Russia opposes it?

Leicester
17-07-2008, 06:19 PM
You do not call that a nuke in that youtube vid. :rolleyes:

Had you of read the description of the video you would of fully known what he is talking about. They used a tactical nuke, not a thermonuclear bomb which is what your thinking of.

Nereo
17-07-2008, 07:16 PM
It wouldnt really be a awr anyway, it would just be a loada missiles flying through the air, there would be no need for soldiers etc.

Therefore it will be quite boring and an uneventful way to die :8

Jordy
17-07-2008, 07:39 PM
Yeah, I don't get why we need a missile shield and I don't get why Russia opposes it?What do you mean 'We'. The American's want to build missile shields and interceptors in Europe to protect themselves from any threats from Russia and the Middle East, it'll also protect Europe but that's more of a bonus, it would certainly protect the UK as the majority are being going to be built in Eastern Europe, close to Russia and the Middle East. One of the main reasons for it is the threat from Iran. This worries the Russian's and they also think the American's doesn't need to interfere with Europe, it could also potentially ruin or interfere with Russian's interceptor systems and pose a threat. I can see why the Russian's oppose it, but do they have any more right to Europe than the American's? No but it will protect the UK so I'm not very concerned at all.

I'm sure the American's would react in a very similar way if the Russian's were to put missile interceptors in Cuba, Mexico or Canada.

RyanDOT
17-07-2008, 07:42 PM
I actually don't think there will be a World War III, because i think most of the American soldiers are in Iraq (I think), fighting against the Talibans (I think).

If America go to war, England have to join.

Jordy
17-07-2008, 07:47 PM
I actually don't think there will be a World War III, because i think most of the American soldiers are in Iraq (I think), fighting against the Talibans (I think).

If America go to war, England have to join.First of all, around 127,000 American Troops are in Iraq and there's around 1,055,000 American troops in total, roughly 1/10th in Iraq. The English aren't an army, it's the British Army or often the UK. It's the American's and a few British that are fighting against some rebel insurgents trying to rule the country. The Taliban are linked with Al Qaeda, that's who they're fighting in Afghanistan.

RyanDOT
17-07-2008, 08:07 PM
First of all, around 127,000 American Troops are in Iraq and there's around 1,055,000 American troops in total, roughly 1/10th in Iraq. The English aren't an army, it's the British Army or often the UK. It's the American's and a few British that are fighting against some rebel insurgents trying to rule the country. The Taliban are linked with Al Qaeda, that's who they're fighting in Afghanistan.


Oh, hate History, quite smart for yourself.

Leicester
17-07-2008, 08:35 PM
Oh, hate History, quite smart for yourself.

This isn't history as such. Military knowledge. You usually get people posting on things they clearly have no idea about. However Jordy knows what hes talking about..

Browney
18-07-2008, 05:23 PM
Why would the UK go to war with China? I don't think we have a problem with them and they don't have a problem with us...

Not to mention the amount of trade we give them. Everything I own seems to be "Made in China."

The other week I passed RAF Menwith Hill (which for people who don't know its a RAF base with entirely American staff as it is leased to the US Army but it's located in England) and there was a fella starving himself in a tent outside the camp to protest it. I think it's because Menwith Hill has infared receivers and is going to play a role in the missile defense system.

Roosteria
18-07-2008, 10:14 PM
Why would the UK go to war with China? I don't think we have a problem with them and they don't have a problem with us... If there was the slightest whiff of a conflict, it would be talked about, not a few shots fired at them... America ask for a war anyway with Russia, by building pointless missile shields. That's just like throwing stones at a lion in the zoo, sooner or later they'll get frustrated :P

China have always wanted UK & USA land.

GommeInc
19-07-2008, 08:54 PM
Yeah, I don't get why we need a missile shield and I don't get why Russia opposes it?
Because the US don't need one and I think Russia are of the opinion that missile sheild is to be used against them for some reason. The US are a terrible race, I pity Canada!


Not to mention the amount of trade we give them. Everything I own seems to be "Made in China."

The other week I passed RAF Menwith Hill (which for people who don't know its a RAF base with entirely American staff as it is leased to the US Army but it's located in England) and there was a fella starving himself in a tent outside the camp to protest it. I think it's because Menwith Hill has infared receivers and is going to play a role in the missile defense system.
Sounds like RAF Lakenheath too, but they're more of the US Aircraft than a part of the missile sheild.

What's this about China wanting UK and US land? It's not very different to the land they currently own :S

BowTies1
27-07-2008, 02:47 PM
hitler loved violence and fighting.


ye did you get this information from your past life you were not even born then you dont know if he loved violence or not your just going by other peoples views of him

Corporal
27-07-2008, 03:39 PM
First of all, around 127,000 American Troops are in Iraq and there's around 1,055,000 American troops in total, roughly 1/10th in Iraq. The English aren't an army, it's the British Army or often the UK. It's the American's and a few British that are fighting against some rebel insurgents trying to rule the country. The Taliban are linked with Al Qaeda, that's who they're fighting in Afghanistan.
Also were mainly trainning up iraqi troops and giving them weapons so they have a propper goverment.

I think i just had deja vu

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