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Mint
13-07-2008, 10:12 PM
It has come to my attention that the VIP editors really don't do there job that often. Everytime I request something it always takes ages to come through. I am still waiting for rep points that I requested a week ago I think. I really think there needs to be more VIP editors that visit the forum daily meaning the "request your VIP features" thread can also be updated daily aswell.

Thread closed by Professor-Alex (Moderation Manager) due to continual flaming and disrepespect staff.

heartbeat
13-07-2008, 10:15 PM
dont care cos i ain't vip

Orangeesh
13-07-2008, 10:21 PM
I got what I wanted within 24 hours.
I dont see any problems, Ive always had mine done quickly =S

-Eyeless-
13-07-2008, 10:21 PM
I agree it does take ages but isn't there only one VIP editor?


I got what I wanted within 24 hours.
I dont see any problems, Ive always had mine done quickly =S

Just lucky ;)

Mint
13-07-2008, 10:22 PM
As far as I am concerned I think Nick- is the only VIP editor.

Florx
13-07-2008, 10:22 PM
Possibly, another ONE could be a help for Nick, but he seems to be doing fine :)

Mint
13-07-2008, 10:23 PM
I am not trying to say Nick- is doing a bad job I'm just saying another VIP's editor would help.

-Eyeless-
13-07-2008, 10:23 PM
I would Gladly do it :P but seriously maybe two or someone who comes on more often?

Mint
13-07-2008, 10:30 PM
I wouldn't mind doing it myself to be honest. I feel as if I need more jobs on hxf anyway. I hope I get the HxHD job :).

Florx
13-07-2008, 10:31 PM
Don't you think that you should all just concentrate on the jobs you have?

Nick-'s job isn't easy, and I guess that it is very boring aswell.

He comes running to your every VIP command and does what you ask.

So thanks Nick :)

Paulio
13-07-2008, 10:34 PM
I remember when me, Baving and Nvr used to all be VIP Managers. It gets confusing when there is more than one. Some of the stuff gets done twice and sometimes the other editor will have nout to do.

Maybe they should do it once a day between a certain time. That way people know when to expect their features and don't make threads moaning about it.

-Eyeless-
13-07-2008, 10:34 PM
Don't you think that you should all just concentrate on the jobs you have?

Nick-'s job isn't easy, and I guess that it is very boring aswell.

He comes running to your every VIP command and does what you ask.

So thanks Nick :)


I was kidding ;)

And it is probably boring but it is pretty easy, you go on and go through the posts and just do whatever accordingly its just laborious :)

Favourtism
13-07-2008, 10:34 PM
All the wannabe admins ^^

:p

I guess lascend deserves the job ;)

Charlie
13-07-2008, 10:42 PM
They won't just hand the job to anyone, they'd have to have experience and be trusted with those permissions. But I do agree there needs to be two maybe.

Slowpoke
13-07-2008, 10:43 PM
It has come to my attention that the VIP editors really don't do there job that often.


As far as I am concerned I think Nick- is the only VIP editor.


I wouldn't mind doing it myself to be honest. I feel as if I need more jobs on hxf anyway.

You have such an unattractive attitude.

The reason there is only one main VIP editor is because when there is more than one it gets very confusing and some jobs are missed out, some are done twice and the VIP editors just generally overlap and bump into each other when it comes to getting things done.

To say Nick- isn't doing his job efficiently is unfair, VIP editors have an awful lot to do, most of which is behind the scenes and you won't see. Nick- does it to the best of his ability (which is damn good) - He is one of the most helpful, hardworking and dedicated member of staff.

heartbeat
13-07-2008, 10:47 PM
i'll be vip editor if u want :D:D

Slowpoke
13-07-2008, 10:54 PM
i'll be vip editor if u want :D:D

Ok then, Energizer.

CHA!NGANG
13-07-2008, 11:04 PM
I don't think it's needed :] Plus, it would have to be an admin and admin perms aren't just given out :P

Mint
13-07-2008, 11:07 PM
I am not trying to say Nick- is doing a bad job I'm just saying another VIP's editor would help.


To say Nick- isn't doing his job efficiently is unfair, VIP editors have an awful lot to do, most of which is behind the scenes and you won't see. Nick- does it to the best of his ability (which is damn good) - He is one of the most helpful, hardworking and dedicated member of staff.
As you can see by my qoute I am not saying that Nick- is doing a bad job because I couldn't imagine how much hard work it is. But all I am saying is that he could do with a helping hand :). I mean one person controlling all of the VIP features on a thread with almost 34 thousand members, jeesh!

kurtis5561
13-07-2008, 11:08 PM
If needbe I offer my services to the forum and help where I can :)

-Eyeless-
13-07-2008, 11:10 PM
I think we should draw a line here and say YOU WILL NOT GET THE JOB IF YOU ASK

You have to be trusted and there isn't even a job to fill anyway so lets stop with the asking

Mint
13-07-2008, 11:33 PM
Yeh he's right, Asking will get you nowhere unless you are very highly trusted.

Slowpoke
13-07-2008, 11:35 PM
Yeh he's right, Asking will get you nowhere unless you are very highly trusted.

Even if you were trusted you wouldn't just get the job by asking, it must be earned.

Leetzgirl
13-07-2008, 11:37 PM
And it would cause confusion between them,

that one of the reasons.

Mint
13-07-2008, 11:39 PM
Seems that more people would agree than the people that don't agree but I must admit that I voted for yes so call it a tie. :P

Meanies
13-07-2008, 11:50 PM
Not read the whole thread.

There used to be 2 VIP editors, Nick and nvrspk4 (i think) but then it was reduced to one because having two people got confusing and jobs got overlapped, some being done twice and things like rep being doubled as a result.

Alkaz
13-07-2008, 11:57 PM
I remember when me, Baving and Nvr used to all be VIP Managers. It gets confusing when there is more than one. Some of the stuff gets done twice and sometimes the other editor will have nout to do.

Maybe they should do it once a day between a certain time. That way people know when to expect their features and don't make threads moaning about it.

Ye its the main reason and like other people have said. Generally its twice as much work for both editors because they do someones VIP then to find out its already been done then they have go through and remove what they have just added etc. Its just alot easier for one person to do it, you may have to wait a little longer for it to get done but not much.

Nick-
14-07-2008, 10:45 AM
It has come to my attention that the VIP editors really don't do there job that often. Everytime I request something it always takes ages to come through. I am still waiting for rep points that I requested a week ago I think. I really think there needs to be more VIP editors that visit the forum daily meaning the "request your VIP features" thread can also be updated daily aswell.
I've been away for the last 3 days, some have to wait a little longer for their request due to myself wanting some sort of social life. ;)

If this is related to your reputation requests; I can't add reputation if there isn't a subscription available on your account as proof that you're entitled to any reputation. As it stands there is only 1 subscription on your account that you purchased just under a week ago and you already have the reputation for that subscription as shown here: http://www.habboxforum.com/showpost.php?p=4863280&postcount=1959
Any further posts requesting reputation have got the same or a similar answer which is that there are no other subscriptions on your account, without a subscription I've got no way of telling whether you're entitled to anything. You've requested it three times so far and each time I can only assume that you haven't read the reason why the reputation has been added and came to the conclusion that I forgot to add it or ignored it.

It used to be updated daily, when I had the time and wasn't busy with work, unfortunately, since mid June things have stacked up and this has had to take a back seat. I can't add much to what previous posts have said, Barkseh's post explains it well and from previous experience too. Funny that the idea of a rota should be considered, I was considering it myself the other day, unfortunately it may become tricky if, for whatever reason, one of the VIP editors can't stick to the rota for that particular day leaving more work for the other VIP editor to pick up the slack and skew the rota slightly. Also, I'm off on holiday in a week so adding a rota wouldn't be that beneficial at the moment because I'm not sure I'll have access to and have the time to go on a computer every day. ;)

Elkaa
14-07-2008, 10:59 AM
I would Gladly do it :P but seriously maybe two or someone who comes on more often?

I bet alot of people would gladly take an administrative position. ;)


I wouldn't mind doing it myself to be honest. I feel as if I need more jobs on hxf anyway. I hope I get the HxHD job :).

Administration on a forum this size is alot different to "other" jobs, primarily because you always have something to do. It also takes quite along time to work upto admin, most start with Moderator.


All the wannabe admins ^^

:p

I guess lascend deserves the job ;)

Suggestions never helped anyone when it comes for an admin role. ;)


They won't just hand the job to anyone, they'd have to have experience and be trusted with those permissions. But I do agree there needs to be two maybe.

The first part is completely right there. It's like with all other websites - we gain a userbase of just under 1,000 unique (registered) members per day, so alot of trust is needed.


You have such an unattractive attitude.

The reason there is only one main VIP editor is because when there is more than one it gets very confusing and some jobs are missed out, some are done twice and the VIP editors just generally overlap and bump into each other when it comes to getting things done.

To say Nick- isn't doing his job efficiently is unfair, VIP editors have an awful lot to do, most of which is behind the scenes and you won't see. Nick- does it to the best of his ability (which is damn good) - He is one of the most helpful, hardworking and dedicated member of staff.

Quoted for the bold. :)


I think we should draw a line here and say YOU WILL NOT GET THE JOB IF YOU ASK

You have to be trusted and there isn't even a job to fill anyway so lets stop with the asking

Correct. As I mentioned above, you work your way there. :)


Yeh he's right, Asking will get you nowhere unless you are very highly trusted.

However, it never hurt to ask, right? ;)


Even if you were trusted you wouldn't just get the job by asking, it must be earned.

Not sure why I quoted you again, but yep.

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As for the VIP editor, I reviewed it just last week to see how long it takes for jobs to be done. It's usually done that same day, or within 2 days. I don't think there's anything wrong with that.

Plank
14-07-2008, 01:22 PM
As for the VIP editor, I reviewed it just last week to see how long it takes for jobs to be done. It's usually done that same day, or within 2 days. I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
Don't know how you worked that one out. Within the last week it has been done once. Within the past month it has been done every three days, except on 2 occasions when there was a 4 day gap and 2 occasions when there was a 2 day gap. Thats roughly twice a week.

If there were more than two VIP editors and they communicated effectively or set up a system, then it could work well. For example, marking posts which have been updated or warning the other VIP editor that they are about to update the features or change names incase they both do it at the same time.

I personally am not too bothered by it as I don't request VIP features that often.

Is there a way rep can automatically be added or users can change their VIP user title themselves?

lAscend
14-07-2008, 01:38 PM
I think maybe another VIP editor could be hired
and maybe there could be a thread for 2 seprate Editors so they could get there own work load the only problem with that is that the VIP members could post in both threads.

today
14-07-2008, 01:47 PM
Vip Editor 1 - Does Name changes, Reputation.
Vip Editor 2 - Does Usertitle changes, emails, sub forums.

The request thread would be split into two more.
One request for Reputation only, and another for Usertitles, emails and sub forums allowing both VIP editors seperate job tasks but still doing work (:

luce
14-07-2008, 02:37 PM
I know there is more then one, but i think one more might help lighten the load as alot of requests are made, also i had to wait a week for mine to be done :) i think it should be checked every other day!

no waiii
14-07-2008, 03:58 PM
It has come to my attention that the VIP editors really don't do there job that often. Everytime I request something it always takes ages to come through. I am still waiting for rep points that I requested a week ago I think. I really think there needs to be more VIP editors that visit the forum daily meaning the "request your VIP features" thread can also be updated daily aswell.

Nick did reply if you read instead of complaing, he said that the VIP you bough of another member did not show up. And you said that you think the person scammed you so thats why you have not got them!

Mint
14-07-2008, 04:25 PM
Nick did reply if you read instead of complaing, he said that the VIP you bough of another member did not show up. And you said that you think the person scammed you so thats why you have not got them!
Don't worry, nvr knows that I should have my rep points. ;)

today
14-07-2008, 04:27 PM
Don't worry, nvr knows that I should have my rep points. ;)
Is that what its really about? You havent got your reputation?

Jesus..

Mint
14-07-2008, 05:06 PM
No it isn't about that at all. It seems to be nearly everytime I request something that it takes days.

Con
14-07-2008, 05:26 PM
As far as I am concerned I think Nick- is the only VIP editor.


Possibly, another ONE could be a help for Nick, but he seems to be doing fine :)

Probs been said - Its Nick- + Nvrspk4

I think it's fine, A bit slow at times but it's never more then 48 HOURS :)

Plank
14-07-2008, 05:48 PM
Probs been said - Its Nick- + Nvrspk4

I think it's fine, A bit slow at times but it's never more then 48 HOURS :)
nvrspk4 sets up subscriptions where as Nick is the only one that does the features. It's nearly always more than 48 hours so I don't know where you got that from.

graffiti
14-07-2008, 05:49 PM
I got what I wanted within 24 hours.
I dont see any problems, Ive always had mine done quickly =S
Same!
But ive had a thread for like 2 weeks now for a name change and it aint been changed.. I say yes

JackBuddy
14-07-2008, 05:55 PM
If only it was like the old days when I got an extra 5 months VIP free... :(

GommeInc
14-07-2008, 06:06 PM
The usual excuse is :Too many editors will cause a stir. This is aload of bull poo. If something needs changing, one of the editors will change it and if the other editor comes along to try and change something, they won't, because they would notice these changes. If someone wanted Green VIP, it'll be there etc etc etc. If someone has ordered a months of VIP, it will be there. Perhaps if it makes it easier, tell the members to state how much VIP they currently have if they want to extend their membership. It's not hard :/ I doubt they will lie, unless you don't give editors the power to see who had what before the VIP changes :P

splatttt
14-07-2008, 06:26 PM
sorry but you complain about EVERYTHING.
he has a life you know.

reeana
14-07-2008, 06:37 PM
Maybe if there were two - they could edit the post if they've done it?

Slowpoke
14-07-2008, 06:41 PM
sorry but you complain about EVERYTHING.

I noticed that.

Zehro
14-07-2008, 06:42 PM
I bet alot of people would gladly take an administrative position. ;)



Administration on a forum this size is alot different to "other" jobs, primarily because you always have something to do. It also takes quite along time to work upto admin, most start with Moderator.



Suggestions never helped anyone when it comes for an admin role. ;)



The first part is completely right there. It's like with all other websites - we gain a userbase of just under 1,000 unique (registered) members per day, so alot of trust is needed.



Quoted for the bold. :)



Correct. As I mentioned above, you work your way there. :)



However, it never hurt to ask, right? ;)



Not sure why I quoted you again, but yep.

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As for the VIP editor, I reviewed it just last week to see how long it takes for jobs to be done. It's usually done that same day, or within 2 days. I don't think there's anything wrong with that.

I know Nick does an awful lot, but it's been 4 days since peoples usertitles and rep has been changed.

e5
14-07-2008, 08:34 PM
no, it gets too confusing.

Yoshimitsui
14-07-2008, 08:39 PM
Thing is, you could do them all and then people will post more for the rest of the day or during you doing them. They are always stacking up, and to keep doing each one every time it comes in is time consuming and frustrating.

Another factor is that the staff are hired to work when they can and not to a schedual so to do it at a certain time is out f the question.

splatttt
14-07-2008, 08:46 PM
everyone does these jobs on this forum oout of kindness & giving up their spare time.
give people a break, they might just have a social lifee!

Plank
14-07-2008, 09:00 PM
"having a social life" is a stupid excuse. If he doesn't have the time to do the job, hire more people or get someone else to do it.

Yoshimitsui
14-07-2008, 09:18 PM
"having a social life" is a stupid excuse. If he doesn't have the time to do the job, hire more people or get someone else to do it.

No it is not! All the staff do their jobs as volunteers. They are not expected to be on the forum 24/7 at the beg and call of a thread. You should try being and ADMIN doing that job along with other things.

splatttt
14-07-2008, 09:29 PM
its really not a stupid excuse

do you think its classed as normal to be glued to your computer all day everyday.....

Plank
14-07-2008, 09:35 PM
Saying "he has a social life" is a stupid excuse. Everyone has a social life - but if he doesn't have the time to do it and if it takes him 4 days to do it then hiring an additional person to help is the obvious answer.

Yoshimitsui
14-07-2008, 09:36 PM
Saying "he has a social life" is a stupid excuse. Everyone has a social life - but if he doesn't have the time to do it and if it takes him 4 days to do it then hiring an additional person to help is the obvious answer.

You should read the thread before you dig yourself any deeper. Nick explained he had been away for 3 days and thats why it has gotten behind.

Plank
14-07-2008, 09:40 PM
You should read the thread before you dig yourself any deeper. Nick explained he had been away for 3 days and thats why it has gotten behind.
Maybe you should try reading the thread. I've already looked through VIP features thread and the majority of the time it takes him 72 hours to add features. With another person to help, this time could be reduced.

nvrspk4
15-07-2008, 06:35 AM
The usual excuse is :Too many editors will cause a stir. This is aload of bull poo. If something needs changing, one of the editors will change it and if the other editor comes along to try and change something, they won't, because they would notice these changes. If someone wanted Green VIP, it'll be there etc etc etc. If someone has ordered a months of VIP, it will be there. Perhaps if it makes it easier, tell the members to state how much VIP they currently have if they want to extend their membership. It's not hard :/ I doubt they will lie, unless you don't give editors the power to see who had what before the VIP changes :P

I love you and all Gomme but when the people who were around when we tried it say that it was confusing and difficult, I think you might be the one spewing bull poo :P

For clarification since not many people understand, there are two VIP editors. However we split the labor into seperate spheres, I take care of VIP subscriptions and forums and Nick takes care of Features and Name Changes. With this division of labor each section should be a one-man job. And Nick does a bang-up job, he's just away sometimes ;) If you put more men on the job they end up sitting around and doing pretty much nothing.

Mint
15-07-2008, 07:12 AM
A way of sorting this out would maybe be done by getting someone who already has a job that doesn't take up to much time and let them have the job. Then even if they didn't need to do anything for there VIP editors job they would always have there other job to do. ;)

I love you and all Gomme but when the people who were around when we tried it say that it was confusing and difficult, I think you might be the one spewing bull poo :P

For clarification since not many people understand, there are two VIP editors. However we split the labor into seperate spheres, I take care of VIP subscriptions and forums and Nick takes care of Features and Name Changes. With this division of labor each section should be a one-man job. And Nick does a bang-up job, he's just away sometimes ;) If you put more men on the job they end up sitting around and doing pretty much nothing.

graffiti
15-07-2008, 07:14 AM
Saying "he has a social life" is a stupid excuse. Everyone has a social life - but if he doesn't have the time to do it and if it takes him 4 days to do it then hiring an additional person to help is the obvious answer.
This is sorta true.
Ive had a thread to change my name for like 2-3 weeks now and it aint been changed :rolleyes:

Nick-
15-07-2008, 09:07 AM
I know Nick does an awful lot, but it's been 4 days since peoples usertitles and rep has been changed.

3 of which I've spent away. ;)


Thing is, you could do them all and then people will post more for the rest of the day or during you doing them. They are always stacking up, and to keep doing each one every time it comes in is time consuming and frustrating.

Another factor is that the staff are hired to work when they can and not to a schedual so to do it at a certain time is out f the question.

You have no idea how annoying that is, especially in the VIP features thread, it's infinitely irritating when I post the updates assuming its all done when someone else has posted between when I finished the requests and prepared the post of updates. Its even worse when someone who I've just updated changes their mind and makes me change it back or to something more complicated that needs huge amounts of HTML. :P


"having a social life" is a stupid excuse. If he doesn't have the time to do the job, hire more people or get someone else to do it.


Saying "he has a social life" is a stupid excuse. Everyone has a social life - but if he doesn't have the time to do it and if it takes him 4 days to do it then hiring an additional person to help is the obvious answer.

That's an atrocious opinion to have. Are you seriously saying that I should favour volunteer work on an online forum where I'm dealing with other peoples requests day in day out and complaints via PM about missing VIP which I don't deal with over my own social life? :S
I would strongly recommend changing that opinion because its very selfish and verging on arrogant.
I don't often give out -rep because I deal with the issues thread so its unfair on the person but I think an exception can be made here.


This is sorta true.
Ive had a thread to change my name for like 2-3 weeks now and it aint been changed :rolleyes:

If you're going to lie about your situation at least make it challenging to prove you wrong. It isn't hard to go to the VIP name changes section and see that your name change request has been active for just under 5 days not 2-3 weeks. I can see it, Management can see it, even other VIPs can see it to prove that what you've just posted is entirely fabricated. :$

Plank
15-07-2008, 09:19 AM
How is it an atrocious opinion :S I have nothing against you personally and I know you deal with lots of things on here, and the fact is it does take you longer than it used to to update features. If an additional person is hired things might get done quicker. You may well have a "social life" but I'm sure there are people out there with more time on their hands.

And no, i'm not saying that you should favour volunteer work on an online forum over your social life - you're the one that said that.

Nick-
15-07-2008, 09:47 AM
"having a social life" is a stupid excuse. If he doesn't have the time to do the job, hire more people or get someone else to do it.

I took that as a devaluation of my social life over this forum, its not a 'stupid excuse', its not even an excuse, its a reason.

Paulio
15-07-2008, 09:57 AM
Havign a social life is a stupid excuse? - Speak for yourself why dont you? :S


Saying "he has a social life" is a stupid excuse. Everyone has a social life - but if he doesn't have the time to do it and if it takes him 4 days to do it then hiring an additional person to help is the obvious answer.

Plank
15-07-2008, 10:21 AM
All the staff on here have a social life - it is a reason anyone could use.

Paulio
15-07-2008, 10:48 AM
Which is allowed. If he's outside and not on HxF, hes obviously not going to be doing the VIP features so it isn't a silly excuse.


All the staff on here have a social life - it is a reason anyone could use.

Plank
15-07-2008, 11:00 AM
But if that means everyone else has to wait days then why don't they hire another person to help?

-Eyeless-
15-07-2008, 11:06 AM
But if that means everyone else has to wait days then why don't they hire another person to help?

Mate it is just VIP stuff in the end, surely you can wait a day or two extra?

Plank
15-07-2008, 11:08 AM
Mate it is just VIP stuff in the end, surely you can wait a day or two extra?
True. I hardly ever use the feature thread anyway so I don't know why I got myself involved in the first place.

Care cup is officially empty c\_/

-Eyeless-
15-07-2008, 11:09 AM
lol I like the care cup :P

Mint
15-07-2008, 03:27 PM
It's 19-15 to the people who think something needs to be done, Although we do have to consider the thoughts of the people that voted no. With Habbo getting bigger everyday it also results in fansites getting bigger and with Habbo being one of Habbos biggest fansites we should definatly be getting more users, So I'm sure that there will be more people buying VIP/VVIP. My point of this whole thread was to give you the message that we need more VIP editors.

shizzle
15-07-2008, 05:14 PM
As far as I am concerned I think Nick- is the only VIP editor.
-Cough, isn't nvr one aswell? And yes, there should be more so it speeds up the process.

Rixion
15-07-2008, 07:47 PM
It's fine the way it is. Nick- tries his hardest and I think he can handle an online forum job and a social life all at once! :)

Mint
15-07-2008, 09:16 PM
Just bought some more VIP and I am going to request my rep points as a test of how long it takes. I will let you know the exact time I requested it and when I get it I will tell you what time. Any guesses on how long it will take people?

Florx
15-07-2008, 09:24 PM
Any guesses on how many people actually care about you timing it?


LET NICK GET ON WITH HIS JOB IN PEACE.

Mint
15-07-2008, 09:35 PM
I was aiming that question at the 20 people that do think something needs to be done, not you.
I requested at 10:19pm on the 15th July.

Any guesses on how many people actually care about you timing it?


LET NICK GET ON WITH HIS JOB IN PEACE.

-Eyeless-
15-07-2008, 09:39 PM
Im surprised that this thread is still going, it won't happen and it is totally reasonable as to why sometimes it is a bit slow when getting VIP settings, and in the end its VIP on a forum why does it matter if its a day or two days?

nvrspk4
16-07-2008, 07:00 AM
But if that means everyone else has to wait days then why don't they hire another person to help?

Its not days, days was due to away time, during away time we usually find an interim editor. Nick will be away for three weeks coming up so Elkaa will be helping out with features for a while.


It's 19-15 to the people who think something needs to be done, Although we do have to consider the thoughts of the people that voted no. With Habbo getting bigger everyday it also results in fansites getting bigger and with Habbo being one of Habbos biggest fansites we should definatly be getting more users, So I'm sure that there will be more people buying VIP/VVIP. My point of this whole thread was to give you the message that we need more VIP editors.

19-15 people but half the stories have been extraordinarily fabricated and some people agreed simply because of hearing about those stories. A reason was given and I don't see the issue, although there is a temporary extra editor for Nick-'s departure.

Hayd93
16-07-2008, 07:13 AM
Just bought some more VIP and I am going to request my rep points as a test of how long it takes. I will let you know the exact time I requested it and when I get it I will tell you what time. Any guesses on how long it will take people?

I can tell you know smods have alot to deal with so i know admin will have alot more. Nick has a social life, Its 3 days it aint gonna kill you is it really ?.

I think the VIP editor is fine and considering the amount of requests i fell it is quick.

jesus
16-07-2008, 08:42 AM
yes - i propose this to ---mad--- and low and behold, it got practically ignored

Nick-
16-07-2008, 09:44 AM
Just bought some more VIP and I am going to request my rep points as a test of how long it takes. I will let you know the exact time I requested it and when I get it I will tell you what time. Any guesses on how long it will take people?
Is there a point to doing that? I don't reply to threads and then ignore them so this isn't going unnoticed by me which essentially makes it an attempt to manipulate me and the system which I don't appreciate. Timing it won't make any difference to the way I do my job, you will get your reputation but offering some sort of ultimatum is not the way to get it done faster.
You've put me in an interesting situation that I'm sure wasn't your original intent, I could deliberately wait especially long to update the VIP features thread delaying your reputation past the 7 day limit so that you are no longer entitled to it as well as delaying others purely because you are in no position to offer me an ultimatum and I often like being awkward when people show this sort of disrespect to someone who is ultimately volunteering his time or I could add it straight away making your little investigation invalid. Alternatively, there's the third option, the high road, often taken by me when this sort of thread arises which is to ignore your remark and continue doing my job as I see fit e.g. not based upon your conditions which you have no right to set.
In the two years I've been staff here I don't think I've ever seen someone who thinks so highly of themselves as to actually tell me how to do my job despite the fact that they have very little clue about what I do. In fact, I'm more than just a bit peeved at your lack of regard for what I do, as I said to Forum, it's not often I issue -rep because it's not fair on the receiver as I deal with the reputation issues but I will be making an exception for the second time in the same thread.

Mrs.McCall
16-07-2008, 10:49 AM
I think if there was another one it would be purely to back Nick- up as the poor guy should be allowed a life too. I think you are all being harsh because he has a hard job to do and a lot of work.

I think a second one wouldn't hurt, it'd just require a system where they could say what has been done and what hasn't.

But you guys should lay off Nick a bit, he does what he can.

Elkaa
16-07-2008, 11:24 AM
I'm sure after the three weeks pass, if it's decided that a second VIP editor is needed, one will be hired. However, at the moment, I do not see what all the fuss is about, and almost all of the arguements in this thread are flawed, but the simple fact the Administrators of the forum also have real lifes, and can not always be able to make the work done in that minute, hour or same day.

Bare in mind, it's also voluntary. Nick doesn't get paid for all the work he puts in.

Mint
16-07-2008, 01:29 PM
Nick I don't think you understand what I am trying to say, I totally respect the fact that you have a social life and living on hxf to update the VIP requests all the time would just be stupid and unfair to you. What I have wanted to do is get more people as VIP editors because I don't think it's fair that you have to handle it all. I know nvr deals with the other side of VIP requests but from all the requests I have seen you get I think that I wouldn't even enjoy having to do them all, I'm sure you don't enjoy updating the VIP requests when there are loads. You have -repped me when all I am trying to do is help you by getting other people to be VIP editors and you might say you don't need my/any help but clearly from the times it has took quite a long time to update the requests you must need help. Would you say that you are never put infront of to many requests and you don't need any help at all? If you feel you are fine updating the VIP requests on a forum with other 30,000 members then I will close the thread and call it over, as this is really your choice. If you told nvr you didn't feel as if you could handle all of the requests and you needed some help I'm sure he would get some others on the job with you. The final outcome is decided by you.

Is there a point to doing that? I don't reply to threads and then ignore them so this isn't going unnoticed by me which essentially makes it an attempt to manipulate me and the system which I don't appreciate. Timing it won't make any difference to the way I do my job, you will get your reputation but offering some sort of ultimatum is not the way to get it done faster.
You've put me in an interesting situation that I'm sure wasn't your original intent, I could deliberately wait especially long to update the VIP features thread delaying your reputation past the 7 day limit so that you are no longer entitled to it as well as delaying others purely because you are in no position to offer me an ultimatum and I often like being awkward when people show this sort of disrespect to someone who is ultimately volunteering his time or I could add it straight away making your little investigation invalid. Alternatively, there's the third option, the high road, often taken by me when this sort of thread arises which is to ignore your remark and continue doing my job as I see fit e.g. not based upon your conditions which you have no right to set.
In the two years I've been staff here I don't think I've ever seen someone who thinks so highly of themselves as to actually tell me how to do my job despite the fact that they have very little clue about what I do. In fact, I'm more than just a bit peeved at your lack of regard for what I do, as I said to Forum, it's not often I issue -rep because it's not fair on the receiver as I deal with the reputation issues but I will be making an exception for the second time in the same thread.

CHA!NGANG
16-07-2008, 03:35 PM
Reading that last post, it just seems to me that your telling Nick what to do as such. You keep saying, 30 000 members, but there are only a handfull from that which are V.I.P's and Nick does a great job dealing with them. Also, you can't just hire new editors, as it requires admin perms. P.S. I voted Yes by accident (Don't ask how) :P I meant no ;)

shizzle
16-07-2008, 03:41 PM
Reading that last post, it just seems to me that your telling Nick what to do as such. You keep saying, 30 000 members, but there are only a handfull from that which are V.I.P's and Nick does a great job dealing with them. Also, you can't just hire new editors, as it requires admin perms. P.S. I voted Yes by accident (Don't ask how) :P I meant no ;)
Yeah, I agree with you CHA!NGANG, you will need administrator permissions, which will be risky. They would only hire the old members that they trust, because you can't just hire them and give administrative rights, who knows what they will do. Plus they could also get your number, so that's a risk :P Plus this job is a tricky job, and he Nick- manages well.

Mint
16-07-2008, 03:48 PM
Nick does an amazing fantastic job tbh but I just think he is getting overloaded with requests. But yeh about the admin rights, They would have to make a very hard decision on who to give them to.

Neversoft
16-07-2008, 03:48 PM
Yeah, I agree with you CHA!NGANG, you will need administrator permissions, which will be risky. They would only hire the old members that they trust, because you can't just hire them and give administrative rights, who knows what they will do. Plus they could also get your number, so that's a risk :P Plus this job is a tricky job, and he Nick- manages well.


There are a ton of trust worthy staff members on the forum, it really isn't that risky to hire a new VIP editor.

Elkaa
16-07-2008, 03:51 PM
Nice to see people finally saying Nick does well. :)

JackBuddy
16-07-2008, 03:55 PM
I took that as a devaluation of my social life over this forum, its not a 'stupid excuse', its not even an excuse, its a reason.
Ok, I'm not having a go at you for having a social life, but surely... If you know you won't be able to make time to be a VIP editor then is it worth being it?

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