Here's some feedback...

[J1MI]

Prefix's are very very untidy. Please can someone with a sense of organisation take one look at the online gaming section right now.

Just incase your not inept enough to find it:
http://www.habboxforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=767

Sub-forums are they're for a reason, please use them. Whats next, the whole technology section in one forum with prefix's all over the place? The first 15 threads in the online forum are all to do with WoW, hmm what does this mean... maybe just maybe it needs to be in a seperate sub-forum.

Secondly, I have no idea what's going on with the moderation team right now, but when you start banning people for putting a strong point across against such shocking changes to the forum, your going to piss people off.

People have a right to voice their opinions, it's your choice wheather you listen to them or not, but don't ban them for gods sake! Of course I don't have full knowlege of all that has been said from NaughtyNemo (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=24706) but from what I can see from his post's, there's been no foul play, other than from your side.

/rant over.
Jimi

Edited by ---MAD--- (General Manager): Thread locked as we do not discuss bans and/or banning policies.

[Axel]

Neversoft also banned. :O

[Mr.Sam]

I think that the idea of prefixes is a good one, but it is not being used in the correct way, instead of using prefixes to replace subforums you should use them within the sub forum.

For example if you have a world of warcraft subforum the prefixes used within it could be:
Trading, Quests, Pvp and so on so you would have the world of warcraft forum and prefixes to state what part of he game they are reffuring to, not using them to define subjects as it just gets too confusing and clutters the forum.

[e5]

With the prexfixes, there should be some colour, boldness and a colon put at the end of it, it looks much better and tidyer :).


Example:

WoW:

[Janczyk]

Read my post in the spam forum and you'll know why, anyway J1MI - if you made it to GM you would've been the better one I feel because you couldn't do an awful lot at FM only follow by the book - at GM you could've wrote the book.

I agree on all points anyway but you might get banned.

[JackBuddy]

Well I am not going to join in with this debate because it seems that every time I question Habbox, the staff members revolt against me.

[e5]

Well I am not going to join in with this debate because it seems that every time I question Habbox, the staff members revolt against me.
I'm sure he won't be banned. They will, if not, they should value a past Manager's opinion.

[jordang16]

Nemo did break the rules....

[JackBuddy]

Nemo did not break any rules....
or neversoft

[Elkaa]

I'm looking into the bans now.

[JackBuddy]

I'm looking into the bans now.
elkaa can you please allow me to post in that thread in the complaints section aswell?

Anyway I was just wondering why prefixes aren't used in this section?

http://www.habboxforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=5

[VPSwow]

COME BACK J1MI :)

[J1MI]

I'm looking into the bans now.

Obviously I am in no position to be questioning your judgement. And I know for a fact what is seen by the general population of this board is not always the whole story. So I thank you for putting my mind at rest by looking into this, as I respect your view on these incidents above all others.

[e5]

I think it was from the past announcement which stated that members who may seem to be 'insulting' the forum will be banned. I think there should be exceptions to this rule (too all members) because all sites need to have negative feedback so they can improve for the future. Obviously constructive critism is better but not everyone can offer it constructively so, once in a while, members should be allowed to be totally negative, but say if more than 3 threads were made, that were all negative, then action should be taken.

[JackBuddy]

Second part: Because at the moment we've not got round to using it in other sections. Online Gaming is one of the first sections to have it tested - We didn't do it forum-wide from the start.

Thanks for the answer, but how did you think the test went? :(

[jordang16]

Hypocrite.

Anyway can someone post please so I can reply to it so I am ON TOPIC. thanks. lol

You just posted off topic... atleast wait until somebody posts ontopic then quote them.

ONtopic: Are they still banned? Elkaa is viewing thread so he must of finished checking why these individuals were banned.

[Titch]

Hypocrite.

Anyway can someone post please so I can reply to it so I am ON TOPIC. thanks. lol

How am i a hypocrite, you have been here since feb 2007 and has 4,000+ posts, i have been here since 2006 and only have 2,000+ posts, i dnt care about my post count. If i reply wanted to i could get to 10,000+ within 3 months.

[Elkaa]

Thanks for the answer, but how did you think the test went? :(

I'll be speaking with the rest of management later about it.


You just posted off topic... atleast wait until somebody posts ontopic then quote them.

ONtopic: Are they still banned? Elkaa is viewing thread so he must of finished checking why these individuals were banned.

I've checked, yes. However, I can't discuss bans on the forum, and with anyone apart from the person in question, as such I'm not able to give anymore information about it, other than I have checked, and they are still banned.

[GommeInc]

Yes you did. ;)
No he didn't, something isn't suitable doesn't mean it's against the rules. There is no rules for such threads so therefore he isn't contradicting himself.

And prefixes ARE untidy, they really should be removed :/

EDIT: Where did the thread go that was pretty much giving a lecture on why Habbox Forum Management should act their age? Did it get deleted for some strange reason :S

[jordang16]

No he didn't, something isn't suitable doesn't mean it's against the rules. There is no rules for such threads so therefore he isn't contradicting himself.

And prefixes ARE untidy, they really should be removed :/

Thank you Gomme proving my point :8

[Janczyk]

Thank you Gomme proving my point :8
So unsuitable images such as teenagers getting screwed by grandpa's aren't against the rules?

Heh, what do you know :rolleyes:

Oh wait, a unsuitable post made by me - oh dear, against the rules? Unsuitable?!

What, the, fudge?!

[e5]

How am I contradicting myself - please find examples of this, thanks.
Contradicting quote 5.

lol Anyway, I think my post about having coloured, bold and : in the prefixes should be read and acted on :P

[Neversoft]

Neversoft also banned. :O

Yeah lol, they banned me for constant negative views. Very unfair as I hardly have constant negative views. I thanked them when they finally added the anime forum, I think many of the suggestions users make are great, yeah, thats negative. :rolleyes_ Also, I'm pretty sure banning a negative person would make them even more negative. Their methods are unorthodox at the least.


I've checked, yes. However, I can't discuss bans on the forum, and with anyone apart from the person in question, as such I'm not able to give anymore information about it, other than I have checked, and they are still banned.

Could you please tell me why I'm banned because over the past two months I've only said two 'negative' things. That of course, is not constant.

[RhymeThatGrime]

That worries me that people give feed back to make Habbox better and they get banned for it..

[luce]

NaughtyNemo shoudln't have been banned for the thread he made in here the other day, i know this is going to sound really supid but what is a prefix :rolleyes:

[J1MI]

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=502881

Let's hope we can get something done about this.

WTB VIP Thread Locking Feature.

[Janczyk]

Good post J1MI

[GommeInc]

So unsuitable images such as teenagers getting screwed by grandpa's aren't against the rules?

Heh, what do you know :rolleyes:

Oh wait, a unsuitable post made by me - oh dear, against the rules? Unsuitable?!

What, the, fudge?!
There were nude images?! I thought it was the other thread which got removed :S


NaughtyNemo shoudln't have been banned for the thread he made in here the other day, i know this is going to sound really supid but what is a prefix :rolleyes:
Not a stupid question at all :P It's the text before some of the thread titles in the online forums, that say WoW etc. I think Runescape has some too. They're meant to make it easier to find thread, but they do the exact opposite by making themselves look very messy.

[Neversoft]

Yeah lol, they banned me for constant negative views. Very unfair as I hardly have constant negative views. I thanked them when they finally added the anime forum, I think many of the suggestions users make are great, yeah, thats negative. :rolleyes_ Also, I'm pretty sure banning a negative person would make them even more negative. Their methods are unorthodox at the least.



Could you please tell me why I'm banned because over the past two months I've only said two 'negative' things. That of course, is not constant.

Can I also say I contributed the least to that thread lol, I posted once then left, I didn't even read past page one. I think whoever banned me has a vendetta against me. :P

[---MAD---]

Looking at that forum, I agree that it's worth bringing the WoW forum back.

If prefixes were made bold, would that help?

[Matt.]

Looking at that forum, I agree that it's worth bringing the WoW forum back.

If prefixes were made bold, would that help?

The wow forum is coming back :) (I think).

http://www.habboxforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=767

Edit: http://www.habboxforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1398

[micky.blue.eyes]

Looking at that forum, I agree that it's worth bringing the WoW forum back.

If prefixes were made bold, would that help?

It would make it look better. ;) :P I still think the prefixes are unneeded, hardly anybody uses the search option and even if we do use the search option you'd still find all the threads you'd normally get in that sub-forum. =/
E.g. if I search Wow to find all the threads that are related to WoW I'd get all the threads that would normally be in the WoW sub-forum (once all the threads have a prefix).

[---MAD---]

It would make it look better. ;) :P I still think the prefixes are unneeded, hardly anybody uses the search option and even if we do use the search option you'd still find all the threads you'd normally get in that sub-forum. =/
E.g. if I search Wow to find all the threads that are related to WoW I'd get all the threads that would normally be in the WoW sub-forum (once all the threads have a prefix).
You cannot make general assumptions. The search feature is used plenty from statistics we can draw and is a very useful and vital tool to any forum ;).

[Janczyk]

Don't decisions have to go through you though, MAD or did this one boycot?

[e5]

As i've said.. Bold / colour / colon after

"WoW:"

[--ss--]

Prefix's are very very untidy. Please can someone with a sense of organisation take one look at the online gaming section right now.

Just incase your not inept enough to find it:
http://www.habboxforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=767

Sub-forums are they're for a reason, please use them. Whats next, the whole technology section in one forum with prefix's all over the place? The first 15 threads in the online forum are all to do with WoW, hmm what does this mean... maybe just maybe it needs to be in a seperate sub-forum.

Secondly, I have no idea what's going on with the moderation team right now, but when you start banning people for putting a strong point across against such shocking changes to the forum, your going to piss people off.

People have a right to voice their opinions, it's your choice wheather you listen to them or not, but don't ban them for gods sake! Of course I don't have full knowlege of all that has been said from NaughtyNemo (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=24706) but from what I can see from his post's, there's been no foul play, other than from your side.

/rant over.
Jimi
Yay, someone with some seance has returned back to the forum!

Wasn't an good idea making this thread though, you've probably now been added to the the to-ban list :rolleyes:.

Good to see the forums been put back to how it was though.

Also, Prefixes are just tacky un-needed and unwanted things, the only place where they'd make seance being is within the International Habbo news section where an prefix for an hotel can be selected, it's just stupid to remove several sub-sections and put them all into busy and cluttered section.

[jordang16]

Yay, someone with some seance has returned back to the forum!

Wasn't an good idea making this thread though, you've probably now been added to the the to-ban list :rolleyes:.

Good to see the forums been put back to how it was though.

Pathetic you got fired live with it. Theres is no "to ban" list your just paranoid. You clearly havent been here when it all started. One word for you: Move on :8

[Janczyk]

Pathetic you got fired live with it. Theres is no "to ban" list your just paranoid. You clearly havent been here when it all started. One word for you: Move on :8
Since when did this involve his firing, or you for that matter?

Oh, and calling users pathetic and having a provocative attitude isn't good practice for Habbox staff.

[jordang16]

Since when did this involve his firing, or you for that matter?

Oh, and calling users pathetic and having a provocative attitude isn't good practice for Habbox staff.

Yes I was a rare value manager live with it. He was being pathetic being one sided and just making assumptions on the spot.

[--ss--]

Pathetic you got fired live with it. Theres is no "to ban" list your just paranoid. You clearly havent been here when it all started. One word for you: Move on :8
I'm guessing you do not under stand the value off the ":rolleyes:" smilie, so i'll explain it to you. The :rolleyes: is used to represented sarcasm in an post and is not meant to be taken seriously, therefore in this case , there is no physical 'to-ban list' but looking at all the people being banned you'd think otherwise.

Also, I actually have moved on and didn't bother making an fuss when I did get fired. I am not paranoid, I know from first hand expiernce that user opinions are not appreciated and to get rid off people with opinions ,they get banned and placed on the autoban list.
And since when did this have anything to do with my dissmisseal from a few months ago?

[jordang16]

I'm guessing you do not under stand the value off the ":rolleyes:" smilie, so i'll explain it to you. The :rolleyes: is used to represented sarcasm in an post and is not meant to be taken seriously, therefore in this case , there is no physical 'to-ban list' but looking at all the people being banned you'd think otherwise.

Also, I actually have moved on and didn't bother making an fuss when I did get fired. I am not paranoid, I know from first hand expiernce that user opinions are not appreciated and to get rid off people with opinions ,they get banned and placed on the autoban list.
And since when did this have anything to do with my dissmisseal from a few months ago?

God your so patronizing! Its like being lectured.

[Janczyk]

*REMOVED*

Edited by Elkaa (Forum Administrator): Please do not be rude.

[jordang16]

You need it by the looks of it.

Please dont insult me.

[--ss--]

You need it by the looks of it.
Indeed he does, especially seeing as he is an uber 1337 hotmail reverter called "Q____" , oops my finger slipped.

[jordang16]

Indeed he does, especially seeing as he is an uber 1337 hotmail reverter called "Q____" , oops my finger slipped.

You must mean Qamp I am not Qamp? :rolleyes:

[risque]

Pathetic you got fired live with it. Theres is no "to ban" list your just paranoid. You clearly havent been here when it all started. One word for you: Move on :8

I believe that's two words? /roll of the eye

I agree with Jimi entirely.

[jordang16]

I AM QAMP!

[--ss--]

No, you're an idiot.

As for the topic, the World of Warcraft forum has been reverted. Nothing can be said on anything else, though.
He speaks the truth!

[Neversoft]

No, you're an idiot.

As for the topic, the World of Warcraft forum has been reverted. Nothing can be said on anything else, though.

When are the contact us emails read?

[Janczyk]

No, you're an idiot.

As for the topic, the World of Warcraft forum has been reverted. Nothing can be said on anything else, though.

Woah woah, I get an infaction for saying he needs a lecture and you call him and idiot? Ha.

[Elkaa]

When are the contact us emails read?

That reminds me of something.

They're read daily.

[J1MI]

When are the contact us emails read?

To be honest mate it doesn't matter when they are read.

Since Elkaa is the person reading the emails, and MAD the one banning people for "having a negative attitude", no matter the opinion of the person reading the emails, MAD will always have the last say.

Forgive me for sounding rude MAD, but once you have made your mind up on a certain topic you rarely budge. I used to be able to explain things in a way which gave you another view on the situation, but I fear being a member now, my opinion means alot less and I am seen as another member being "negative" about the forum.

[Neversoft]

To be honest mate it doesn't matter when they are read.

Since Elkaa is the person reading the emails, and MAD the one banning people for "having a negative attitude", no matter the opinion of the person reading the emails, MAD will always have the last say.

Forgive me for sounding rude MAD, but once you have made your mind up on a certain topic you rarely budge. I used to be able to explain things in a way which gave you another view on the situation, but I fear being a member now, my opinion means alot less and I am seen as another member being "negative" about the forum.

Guess I'll have to take it directly to sierk then.

It's really frustrating making me go through all this trouble when I really have done nothing wrong. I actually took the time to read the thread that stirred all of this up earlier and now I can see why Nemo was banned, although he deserves a caution at the most because he is not constantly negative, but what I said compared to what he said is nothing. Nothing at all, yet we warrant the same punishment. I really don't understand their reasoning and methods. I also noticed that Jack said he wasn't allowed to post negative things as he had been warned that it would lead to a ban. If the management thought I was constantly negative, wheres my warning? This further proves that I'm not constantly negative at all and I was banned because of one measily sentence they didn't like in my post where I said they always have to be right and we always have to be wrong. :) I also read Forum's thread in the 'Ask the Forum Staff' section titled 'Negative Rule'. He asked if we're not allowed to be negative in general, or just negative to staff. He got some replies.

"The people that have been banned have just had constant negative views about Habbox and the decisions they make."
Thats not me then, as I only complained about the anime forum.

"Basically, if the majority of your posts consist of a negative attitude, then you will be punished for it."
That doesn't concern me either. I'm a constant help in the Anime, Movies and Nintendo section and a happy person in general.

"The type of punishment, for example; caution, temp ban, perm ban etc depends on the severity of your negativity."
I said one little negative thing and recieve and permanent ban? I'd hate to see what happens when you're actually constantly negative...

I really do wonder why I am banned. This is a massive mistake and I hope management (or MAD, whoever) will realise that and right what is wrong. By the looks of it though, I'm starting to wonder...

[Slowpoke]

"The type of punishment, for example; caution, temp ban, perm ban etc depends on the severity of your negativity."
I said one little negative thing and recieve and permanent ban? I'd hate to see what happens when you're actually constantly negative...

Yes I did say that, however, the way you've commented on what I said is unfair. You're speaking as though I was the one who banned you when I actually had nothing at all to do with your banning - What I said is the way the situations I've witnessed have been dealt with in the past.

I shouldn't comment on your banning and how I feel about it because I honestly don't know all the facts. However, looking at the thread, I don't personally believe that you did enough to warrant a ban and I think that you and Nemo should've both received a warning or a caution at most. All you can do is hope MAD will have a change of heart because as far as I know, the only people who can go over his head when it comes to overruling his decisions is Sierk

[Neversoft]

Yes I did say that, however, the way you've commented on what I said is unfair. You're speaking as though I was the one who banned you when I actually had nothing at all to do with your banning - What I said is the way the situations I've witnessed have been dealt with in the past.

I shouldn't comment on your banning and how I feel about it because I honestly don't know all the facts. However, looking at the thread, I don't personally believe that you did enough to warrant a ban and I think that you and Nemo should've both received a warning or a caution at most. All you can do is hope MAD will have a change of heart because as far as I know, the only people who can go over his head when it comes to overruling his decisions are sierk.

I apologise if what I posted sounded like you were the one who banned me. I never intended to make it sound like that and know you have nothing to do with my ban. I was just replying like that to show how unfair my ban is.

[Slowpoke]

I apologise if what I posted sounded like you were the one who banned me. I never intended to make it sound like that and know you have nothing to do with my ban. I was just replying like that to show how unfair my ban is.

Thanks for the sarcasm. And I see what you mean the person you're going to have to convince is MAD.

[JackBuddy]

Thanks for the sarcasm. And I see what you mean the person you're going to have to convince is MAD.
I don't think he was being sarcastic. :S

[Neversoft]

Thanks for the sarcasm. And I see what you mean the person you're going to have to convince is MAD.

I swear I was not being sarcastic. :S

[GommeInc]

Your ban is pointless, most bans are anyway. Hopefully you'll get your account back, you're an important member :P

[Nereo]

Pathetic you got fired live with it. Theres is no "to ban" list your just paranoid. You clearly havent been here when it all started. One word for you: Move on :8


I love the way this dude is now banned "there is no "to ban" list" LOL :D

[Slowpoke]

I swear I was not being sarcastic. :S


I don't think he was being sarcastic. :S

Still sure?

I'm starting to sympathize with MAD. :)

[JackBuddy]

As far as I am aware, saracasm isn't a bannable offence. So there's no need for the sympathy.

[Slowpoke]

As far as I am aware, saracasm isn't a bannable offence. So there's no need for the sympathy.

No, but it's a silly attitude, especially when its directed at someone who is trying to help you. And for the record, no-where did I state that it was a bannable offence. A negative attitude is, however and replying to a helpful post like he did falls under that category. But since this thread has nothing at all to do with his ban -

Prefixes are a good addition but do look quite tacky, it's still on trial with Habbox though so it most likely see some changes.

[JackBuddy]

No, but it's a silly attitude, especially when its directed at someone who is trying to help you. And for the record, no-where did I state that it was a bannable offence. A negative attitude is, however and replying to a helpful post like he did falls under that category.
Well it was when you thought he was being sarcastic your views suddenly changed, and you thought he should be banned. Hell, I'm sure I could look through your posts and find something negative.

rule a17 or whatever it is says:

A17. Do not be a negative factor on the forum - We welcome constructive criticism but we also strive to maintain a positive environment. Administrators, as always, will have the final say on whether a member is constantly being negative on the forums.
let's leave this one to the admins.

[GommeInc]

No, but it's a silly attitude, especially when its directed at someone who is trying to help you. And for the record, no-where did I state that it was a bannable offence. A negative attitude is, however and replying to a helpful post like he did falls under that category. But since this thread has nothing at all to do with his ban -

Prefixes are a good addition but do look quite tacky, it's still on trial with Habbox though so it most likely see some changes.
Surely if someone is helping you, such action would of already been done? I don't see much help coming from his side :P And replying to posts falls under negativity? Since when? The whole point of discussing something with some is to have a discussion, not a quick reply and then leave it, which is where the idea that management "push things under the carpet" comes from, because they should be replying to threads more frequently, not a quick reply and do action behind the scenes. That's useless in the eyes of members...


Well it was when you thought he was being sarcastic your views suddenly changed, and you thought he should be banned. Hell, I'm sure I could look through your posts and find something negative.
Oh that's easy, he's suggesting someone should be banned. That's negativity, and he's not very useful considering it's a feedback forum and he happens to be a forum moderator, which stereotypically are meant to be helpful to members.

[Slowpoke]

Well it was when you thought he was being sarcastic your views suddenly changed, and you thought he should be banned. Hell, I'm sure I could look through your posts and find something negative.

I've never said that so stop trying to put words into my mouth.

And you probably could, but thats the difference between a negative post here and there and a constant negative attitude and if you read my first post about his ban, you'll see that I disagree with his ban but it's not my place to comment because I don't have a say in the matter.


All you can do is hope MAD will have a change of heart because as far as I know, the only people who can go over his head when it comes to overruling his decisions are sierk and Jin.


let's leave this one to the admins.

It's as if you completely dismissed my earlier posts.

[JackBuddy]

I've never said that so stop trying to put words into my mouth.

And you probably could, but thats the difference between a negative post here and there and a constant negative attitude and if you read my first post about his ban, you'll see that I disagree with his ban but it's not my place to comment because I don't have a say in the matter.
Well what did you mean by sympathising with MAD then? I don't want to start arguments, or even be negative. But you can't decide on what post is negative, as I said earlier... it is up to admins.

[Neversoft]

Still sure?

I'm starting to sympathize with MAD. :)

Oh my... I was not being sarcastic! I bolded my post to put that point across! =/ You were very polite and on my side, why would I be sarcastic? I really do apologise if my post came across the wrong way.


Your ban is pointless, most bans are anyway. Hopefully you'll get your account back, you're an important member :P

Thanks. :D

[Slowpoke]

Once again:


All you can do is hope MAD will have a change of heart because as far as I know, the only people who can go over his head when it comes to overruling his decisions are sierk and Jin.


But you can't decide on what post is negative, as I said earlier... it is up to admins.

I've already said that..

[JackBuddy]

I've already said that..
I was referring to this post from you:

A negative attitude is, however and replying to a helpful post like he did falls under that category.
I'm going to stay out of this argument, because of the two of us I am more likely to follow Neversoft and Naughtynemo's path.

[Slowpoke]

I was referring to this post from you:

I'm going to stay out of this argument, because of the two of us I am more likely to follow Neversoft and Naughtynemo's path.

I don't think you've been negative at all, personally. So there's nothing to worry about. But like you said, administrators have the final say.

[no waiii]

I think it looks untidy because the thread names are sticking out every four or five threads and it looks all over the palce.

[Mr.OSH]

In regards to the prefixes, I see where you are coming from in terms of why the WoW forum needed to be readded however everyone should consider that the prefixes are still been tested across the forum to see what sort of use they can be. In my opinion they can certainly be of use to some extent within subforums or in forums which need a little bit of structure to it without requiring lots of subforums to be added. I do agree that they should stand out and be used to make things more structured but not untidy and unless it is done correctly I agree it can look messy but that is why things are being tested. I think it is worth waiting to see how things play out with the prefixes and I'm sure an appropriate decision can be made in regards to where they play a role within the forum. :) For example their use in International News and Rumors is definitely worth while considering to separate US/CA/Other hotel news and rumors as separate subforums are not really needed within the forum but it is nice to make it clear which hotel a thread is related to when it is posted.

Also in regards to people being banned for "voicing their opinion" although the individual case will be looked into, considering this when we look at the bigger picture in regards to the rules - no one is every banned for voicing their opinion on matters if they conduct themselves in the correct way. People attempting to continually rub negativity into the forum either deliberately or not by going out of their way to explain why everything that is done is done in the wrong way and having a lack of appreciation for the efforts put into the forum by staff as well as being rude and bad mannered deserve to be banned. I'm not referring to the individual case you are talking about as that would have to be looked into specifically however on the whole there needs to be a line drawn between what is suggesting things and having a level of "freedom of speech" on how the foruma nd site are ran and what is simply rude and taking advantage of the fact that we spend time listening to feedback, considering what people say and try to provide the best services we can to members.

[GommeInc]

Why does it take this long to test things within Habbox Forum? Usually they're done quickly if whoever's behind the changes has passion in what they do... Maybe there's a lack of it?

[Elkaa]

Why does it take this long to test things within Habbox Forum? Usually they're done quickly if whoever's behind the changes has passion in what they do... Maybe there's a lack of it?

It has now been tested. WoW forum was returned, the rest is remaining as prefixes for the moment, with the Habbo International forum probably following closely, shortly.

[GommeInc]

How are you going about with prefixes? Because currently the small text next to the thread title doesn't work at all, it's unwanted mess really. All other options seem to revolve around them being messy really, by: changing the colour, making them bigger and bolder or the use of images. I don't think it's just me who sees the current prefixes as a mess :P

[JackBuddy]

Before you make these changes to prefixes I think you should unban Naughtynemo and Neversoft...

[Elkaa]

How are you going about with prefixes? Because currently the small text next to the thread title doesn't work at all, it's unwanted mess really. All other options seem to revolve around them being messy really, by: changing the colour, making them bigger and bolder or the use of images. I don't think it's just me who sees the current prefixes as a mess :P

We're looking into it. :)

[Neversoft]

Guess I'll have to take it directly to sierk then.

It's really frustrating making me go through all this trouble when I really have done nothing wrong. I actually took the time to read the thread that stirred all of this up earlier and now I can see why Nemo was banned, although he deserves a caution at the most because he is not constantly negative, but what I said compared to what he said is nothing. Nothing at all, yet we warrant the same punishment. I really don't understand their reasoning and methods. I also noticed that Jack said he wasn't allowed to post negative things as he had been warned that it would lead to a ban. If the management thought I was constantly negative, wheres my warning? This further proves that I'm not constantly negative at all and I was banned because of one measily sentence they didn't like in my post where I said they always have to be right and we always have to be wrong. :) I also read Forum's thread in the 'Ask the Forum Staff' section titled 'Negative Rule'. He asked if we're not allowed to be negative in general, or just negative to staff. He got some replies.

"The people that have been banned have just had constant negative views about Habbox and the decisions they make."
Thats not me then, as I only complained about the anime forum.

"Basically, if the majority of your posts consist of a negative attitude, then you will be punished for it."
That doesn't concern me either. I'm a constant help in the Anime, Movies and Nintendo section and a happy person in general.

"The type of punishment, for example; caution, temp ban, perm ban etc depends on the severity of your negativity."
I said one little negative thing and recieve and permanent ban? I'd hate to see what happens when you're actually constantly negative...

I really do wonder why I am banned. This is a massive mistake and I hope management (or MAD, whoever) will realise that and right what is wrong. By the looks of it though, I'm starting to wonder...

Is my ban being looked into or what. I used the contact us thing yesterday, still no reply.

[GommeInc]

Is my ban being looked into or what. I used the contact us thing yesterday, still no reply.
It's only a 2 second job to changing someone from the banned usergroup to the member/VIP member group, it does make me wonder where all these workers disappear to, loads of other forums have their staff eager and ready to work, because of the passion they have in their job. Toot sweet!

[Mr.OSH]

It's only a 2 second job to changing someone from the banned usergroup to the member/VIP member group, it does make me wonder where all these workers disappear to, loads of other forums have their staff eager and ready to work, because of the passion they have in their job. Toot sweet!

It isn't as simple as just unbanning someone who has been banned. In the majority of cases someone is banned for what appears to be a "good" reason or has some reasoning behind it and things have to be discussed and checked over until a decision has been come to regarding if or if not the member in question should be unbanned. The staff at Habbox certainly do work hard otherwise they would not be working here - trust me, there are high expectations of the work produced by staff and there is no slacking off allowed.

It is easy to presume from a member position that it is really easy to deal with the forum and it is pure laziness that means things sometimes are not done instantly however this is far from the reality - there is a lot of work that goes into maintaining the forum and one of the reasons Habbox is successful is because there is real structure to how things are dealt with and to the staff base in general. I'm sure this ban is being looked into currently however you have to remember that staff have more than bans to be looking into and before you say "hire more staff to deal with bans then" that isn't necessary as to make things efficient having a smaller team of efficient staff who deal with multiple things is better than having a large team of inefficient staff. I just think some patience is needed for now as this is being looked into.

As for the complaint about testing taking too long it does take time to see how things work when threads are posted and if people are finding the use of prefixes useful in certain forums and as Elkaa says we are looking into changing formatting of prefixes to make them more usefull and practical and also we are considering using prefixes in other forums at the moment such as the International News and Rumours forum where I feel it would work well personally.

[jesus]

its all crap

why not just have a normal forum with normal sub-forums like everyone else instead of keeping changing things?

[GommeInc]

That's how this forum works? No wonder there are so many issues. Unbanning someone is that easy, making yourselves look dead from the neck up doesn't do you any favours... Just unban him, it's so obvious that he doesn't deserve it, and it doesn't need discussing and I don't even think it takes more than a day to discuss bans anyway, unless you've got soo many jobs to do, which are also probably pointless. Running a forum is meant to flow pass, not get tangled up with policies and other nuisances.

Having everything discussed is time consuming and pointless, when a human can easily click a few things to change something on a forum.

Also, this "member position" crap is... well... crap. I've run a forum, anyone can run a forum, I don't see why people like you subtly suggest it's a profession by even mentioning the phrase "from a member's position." Especially when you're dealing with people the same age and you're not running a forum for a company. The appropriate poise for a forum like this, with it's target audience, is meant to be relaxed, and not strongly professional suggestive, as in, you know what to do, but you don't have to make yourselves seem like it's only something you know how to do. I reflect back to Habbox Forum in 2004. JackHb and Seacat didn't make it seem like a special profession, and nor did they make themselves seem like hardcore professionals. They acted their age :/

And back to the prefixes thing, as Jesus said above, why change something members didn't want changed? You've taken something that wasn't broken, and thrown it on the floor and broken it :P

It isn't as simple as just unbanning someone who has been banned. In the majority of cases someone is banned for what appears to be a "good" reason or has some reasoning behind it and things have to be discussed and checked over until a decision has been come to regarding if or if not the member in question should be unbanned. The staff at Habbox certainly do work hard otherwise they would not be working here - trust me, there are high expectations of the work produced by staff and there is no slacking off allowed.

It is easy to presume from a member position that it is really easy to deal with the forum and it is pure laziness that means things sometimes are not done instantly however this is far from the reality - there is a lot of work that goes into maintaining the forum and one of the reasons Habbox is successful is because there is real structure to how things are dealt with and to the staff base in general. I'm sure this ban is being looked into currently however you have to remember that staff have more than bans to be looking into and before you say "hire more staff to deal with bans then" that isn't necessary as to make things efficient having a smaller team of efficient staff who deal with multiple things is better than having a large team of inefficient staff. I just think some patience is needed for now as this is being looked into.

As for the complaint about testing taking too long it does take time to see how things work when threads are posted and if people are finding the use of prefixes useful in certain forums and as Elkaa says we are looking into changing formatting of prefixes to make them more usefull and practical and also we are considering using prefixes in other forums at the moment such as the International News and Rumours forum where I feel it would work well personally.

[JackBuddy]

GommeInc for president!