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Purple
24-07-2008, 06:16 AM
Hello,

I wanted to compliment the HxF staff for doing a terrific job. I think as a whole the forums continue to improve and serve as a great place for habbo & non habbo fans alike. I'd like to especially compliment the AGM's on constant great work, it's always good to see the top guys not sitting around doing nothing. :) Keep up the great work.

Just thought I'd throw a few of my suggestions in the hat to be considered.
~ Move the 'Habbo' section up towards the top of the forum, above 'Trading'... I just think this would be a good idea due to convenience.
~ Make 'Trading' a section inside 'Habbo' rather than its own category. I think it would make it more organized & save some space, but maybe that's just my opinion. -- If not I thought I'd suggest removing the 'Trading' link entirely in 'Habbo', considering Trading is on the front page anywho. :)
~ Move 'Bobba, Scams, and Glitches' into Habbo in General.. Just saving space here.

And for your general amusement which probably won't get taken seriously...
~ Consider removing negative rep. It gives people a false sense of power, and often incites more problems. Mod's have the job of taking care of problem posts, maybe it should be left at that?

Thanks,
Nocturnals

marriott0.01
24-07-2008, 06:23 AM
I like some ideas, but the removal of -rep doesn't give people freedom, and some people do abuse it yes, but some people use it where it has a reason.

The Habbo Section being moved up above trading is probably your best idea, as you can access Habbo before you go to Habbo "Trading", but by making Trading just a Forum wouldn't be very good because if you want International Trading and then you have to click on the Trading Forum then another sub-forum. A way to get round that is to not have sub-forums and just have the "Trading" Forum and use Tags.

Bobba, Scams and Glitches isn't the most active Forum so moving that would be a good idea as not everyone is interested in the Forum and if they want it then they could easily just go to Habbo In General and click it!

But overall good ideas and +rep ;)

Purple
24-07-2008, 09:30 AM
Probably at the very least get merge all of the International Trading sections and use Tags. :) Shoulda thought of that before I posted. xD

Monkwrestler
24-07-2008, 09:45 AM
I agree with mergeing the hotel parts of the inrenational part but it has to have 2 prefixes so you would have on the left the hotel you are giving the furni on and on the right you will have the other hotel trading to so
(UK to US: Selling HCS) as an example

Elkaa
24-07-2008, 10:21 AM
Probably at the very least get merge all of the International Trading sections and use Tags. :) Shoulda thought of that before I posted. xD

Quite a nice idea there.

However, that would be alot of prefixes.

UK to USA
UK to ES
UK to SG
UK to AU
UK to DE
USA to UK
USA to ES
USA to SG

and so on - We're talking nearly 160 prefixes if it was done for every country. I guess, however, it could be knocked down to 10-15 if we just did the English hotels, and had an "other" option.

Monkwrestler
24-07-2008, 10:37 AM
If possible I was thinking more like this
http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/8391/ideary7.png

Immenseman
24-07-2008, 10:43 AM
Hello,

I wanted to compliment the HxF staff for doing a terrific job. I think as a whole the forums continue to improve and serve as a great place for habbo & non habbo fans alike. I'd like to especially compliment the AGM's on constant great work, it's always good to see the top guys not sitting around doing nothing. :) Keep up the great work.

Just thought I'd throw a few of my suggestions in the hat to be considered.
~ Move the 'Habbo' section up towards the top of the forum, above 'Trading'... I just think this would be a good idea due to convenience.
~ Make 'Trading' a section inside 'Habbo' rather than its own category. I think it would make it more organized & save some space, but maybe that's just my opinion. -- If not I thought I'd suggest removing the 'Trading' link entirely in 'Habbo', considering Trading is on the front page anywho. :)
~ Move 'Bobba, Scams, and Glitches' into Habbo in General.. Just saving space here.

And for your general amusement which probably won't get taken seriously...
~ Consider removing negative rep. It gives people a false sense of power, and often incites more problems. Mod's have the job of taking care of problem posts, maybe it should be left at that?

Thanks,
Nocturnals


Moving Habbo above trading most certainly would make sense because trading is only an aspect of Habbo itself, although a major one. I agree Habbo should be above it but I don't think any of us will be losing any sleep over it.

However, I don't agree that Trading should merely be a sub-forum within the parent forum "Habbo" because as you can see the trading forum is a very active forum as Habbox has very strong links with the community. I know there's people who use this for the fundamental reason of the trading forums. If they were inactive then it'd be a good idea but seeing as it's so active it deserves it's own category.

If we were to remove the function of -repping then +repping would become pointless too. The reputation system can only work properly if you have both available to you. If it's used like it should be then you would +rep with constructive posts and -rep "trolls" and what not. Not as many people deserve -rep then +rep but that just shows what a great community we have :P.

Purple
24-07-2008, 10:57 AM
Quite a nice idea there.

However, that would be alot of prefixes.

UK to USA
UK to ES
UK to SG
UK to AU
UK to DE
USA to UK
USA to ES
USA to SG

and so on - We're talking nearly 160 prefixes if it was done for every country. I guess, however, it could be knocked down to 10-15 if we just did the English hotels, and had an "other" option.

Very true point. I guess I was thinking only putting the "Buying" Tag, but I can see how that could get confusing. :)


Moving Habbo above trading most certainly would make sense because trading is only an aspect of Habbo itself, although a major one. I agree Habbo should be above it but I don't think any of us will be losing any sleep over it.

However, I don't agree that Trading should merely be a sub-forum within the parent forum "Habbo" because as you can see the trading forum is a very active forum as Habbox has very strong links with the community. I know there's people who use this for the fundamental reason of the trading forums. If they were inactive then it'd be a good idea but seeing as it's so active it deserves it's own category.

If we were to remove the function of -repping then +repping would become pointless too. The reputation system can only work properly if you have both available to you. If it's used like it should be then you would +rep with constructive posts and -rep "trolls" and what not. Not as many people deserve -rep then +rep but that just shows what a great community we have :P.

In regards to the repping, yeah I see what you mean. Another forum I frequent uses a different method, having a "Thanks" button (near the "quote" button). There is a list below the post of all the people that have "Thank"ed them for a useful post. Thanks end up going towards rep as well as having a total thanks counter. -Rep is not used on the forum, and generally it works out pretty well for them. Then again, different forum, different situation. :) Just a thought.

Elkaa
24-07-2008, 12:07 PM
If possible I was thinking more like this
http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/8391/ideary7.png

I'm not aware of a double prefix option at the moment.

JackBuddy
24-07-2008, 01:03 PM
Negative rep should stay as it is.

Plank
24-07-2008, 01:14 PM
~ Move the 'Habbo' section up towards the top of the forum, above 'Trading'... I just think this would be a good idea due to convenience.

~ Make 'Trading' a section inside 'Habbo' rather than its own category. I think it would make it more organized & save some space, but maybe that's just my opinion. -- If not I thought I'd suggest removing the 'Trading' link entirely in 'Habbo', considering Trading is on the front page anywho. :)

~ Move 'Bobba, Scams, and Glitches' into Habbo in General.. Just saving space here.

Very good ideas above, I think it would be good if they were put into practise. :)

Mr.OSH
24-07-2008, 02:30 PM
The removal of negative reputation would simply make the entire reputation system pointless in my opinion. Personally I think it would be a very bad move to remove it completely as the whole point of reputation is to show how helpful a member is on the forum and if they are being unhelpful then they should be given negative reputation to show that. Removing it means that reputation would no longer have a meaning.

As for the moving the Habbo section above trading I agree with this as it would make more sense however it isn't vital but your correct - it should be ordered with Habbo above trading. I don't really think trading should be made a subsection of Habbo as all of the subforums of Trading seem quite active and really there is no need if the forums are being used - merging them with the Habbo section could make it a bit cluttered and hard to find what you are looking for.

Bobba, Scams, and Glitches again is quite active on its own and although it could be made a subforum of Habbo I don't see it as really neccacary as it is used enough as it is. If the forum became a bit inactive then a merge would indeed be neccacary but at the moment in my opinion it isn't needed.

Some good ideas there overall though - thanks. :)

Prof-Alex
24-07-2008, 02:45 PM
I've always wondered why the habbo forum is so low down on hxf but never really questioned it because its always been like that :P T'would indeed make sense to move it, go for it :D

Thanks for the kind words too :) Makes a change to all the abuse we normally get :P

Purple
24-07-2008, 08:11 PM
The removal of negative reputation would simply make the entire reputation system pointless in my opinion. Personally I think it would be a very bad move to remove it completely as the whole point of reputation is to show how helpful a member is on the forum and if they are being unhelpful then they should be given negative reputation to show that. Removing it means that reputation would no longer have a meaning.

Fair enough, but I see that -rep causes "oodles" of problems, so alternatives are not out of the question, are they? :)

As for the moving the Habbo section above trading I agree with this as it would make more sense however it isn't vital but your correct - it should be ordered with Habbo above trading. I don't really think trading should be made a subsection of Habbo as all of the subforums of Trading seem quite active and really there is no need if the forums are being used - merging them with the Habbo section could make it a bit cluttered and hard to find what you are looking for. Well you kinda have two options currently, a link exclusively to the sub-forum, or the sub forum itself.. I think doing one or the other is my main point. :)

Bobba, Scams, and Glitches again is quite active on its own and although it could be made a subforum of Habbo I don't see it as really neccacary as it is used enough as it is. If the forum became a bit inactive then a merge would indeed be neccacary but at the moment in my opinion it isn't needed.

True, but it's basically general habbo information anywho. I don't think you should have 2 different sections for information easily combined into one. Instead of combining 3 sections, you can combine 5. :)

Some good ideas there overall though - thanks. :)

Thanks!

Mint
24-07-2008, 08:33 PM
Kyle (nocturnals), remember that time I payed about 10hc for rites in your casino to trash it? :lol: Then to add the cherry on the top, you payed my best mate a lot to fix it! :Sign10:

Purple
24-07-2008, 08:57 PM
Kyle (nocturnals), remember that time I payed about 10hc for rites in your casino to trash it? :lol: Then to add the cherry on the top, you payed my best mate a lot to fix it! :Sign10:

You are so insignificant I don't know who you are.

Thanks for staying on topic.

GommeInc
24-07-2008, 09:14 PM
Don't move the Habbo and Trading catagories, stick by the phrase "Don't fix something that isn't broken" and negative rep isn't exactly a bad thing. Positive rep will become a bad thing if that's the only thing available in the rep system. The Bobba, Glitches and Bugs idea is interesting, but then again there's nothing wrong with it now and people are used to where the forums are at the moment.

Plank
24-07-2008, 09:17 PM
It would be more sensible and convenient for the habbo category to be above the trading category. Although habbox is well known for it's trading.

Purple
24-07-2008, 09:23 PM
Don't move the Habbo and Trading catagories, stick by the phrase "Don't fix something that isn't broken" and negative rep isn't exactly a bad thing. Positive rep will become a bad thing if that's the only thing available in the rep system. The Bobba, Glitches and Bugs idea is interesting, but then again there's nothing wrong with it now and people are used to where the forums are at the moment.

Gomme, many improvements are made to the forum, even if they aren't broken - for example, merging many forums and using tags. Just because something isn't broken doesn't mean there isn't room for improvement. :)

Nippeh
24-07-2008, 09:26 PM
The Habbo section should be above the Trading section, as trading is a part of Habbo... if you get me?

But, I disagree, the two shouldn't merge.

GommeInc
24-07-2008, 09:31 PM
How is that improving something? Improving something is literally adding to it or removing something to replace with something better. Not moving something somewhere that's worked since the forum opened :/ Trading is one of the key factors to Habbo, the lower down you get on the forum, the less Habbo you see (the Habbo section isn't exactly hardcore Habbo with alts and trading taken out of the equation). Putting trading near the bottom just muddles up the forum view. Trading and alts are practical parts of the forum, while the lower down you get, you find the more discussion based forums.

Purple
24-07-2008, 10:33 PM
How is that improving something? Improving something is literally adding to it or removing something to replace with something better. Not moving something somewhere that's worked since the forum opened :/ Trading is one of the key factors to Habbo, the lower down you get on the forum, the less Habbo you see (the Habbo section isn't exactly hardcore Habbo with alts and trading taken out of the equation). Putting trading near the bottom just muddles up the forum view. Trading and alts are practical parts of the forum, while the lower down you get, you find the more discussion based forums.

So if I had a messy bedroom, and I organized it, it's not better off?

Sorry mate but I really think you've missed the mark here.

GommeInc
24-07-2008, 10:52 PM
The forum isn't messy? :rolleyes: And I think 'mate', that you're suggesting something that isn't needed :rolleyes: It works now and always has done. Again, why fix something that isn't broken. Your example sucked, because your example suggest something that is messy needs to be cleaned or "organized." This isn't the case with the forum, so your example was pointless here :/

shizzle
25-07-2008, 09:56 AM
Hmm, I don't think none of that will happen, althought some might.

MissAlice
25-07-2008, 03:54 PM
So if I had a messy bedroom, and I organized it, it's not better off?

Sorry mate but I really think you've missed the mark here.

Some nice thoughts.

I think I understand what you are saying. Sure if you tidy up, things are in place, but sometimes we just put things away and not necessarily in the best place, until we realise there is a better alternative which is more suitable ;)

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