Internet Service Providers Cut Down On Illegal Downloading

[myke]

Yes, a report on GMTV this morning explained that if you are caught downloading illegal music will result in ISPs sending letters to you/your parents.

They are also considering cutting your internet connection, but surely, if you're paying for it... you should get it?

Nothing was said what's classed as illegal though- probably it all.

Didn't say anything about apps though.

[cocaine]

Is it illegal downloading of anything or are they just focusing on music O.o

[myke]

GMTV said Music.

[efq]

My Dad uses PirateBay and Bittorrent all the time lmao.
Mum wants me to get her music off it and she dont care.

Apparently on Yahoo they're sending letters to scare the kids using it, but don't they know that properly every kid has read that and is going to laugh when a letter comes through their door.
Its just to scare you, it'll be impossible for them to stop us all lol. And i'd then sue them for taking my internet while im paying.

Btw, Im on a VPN half the time xD!

[Blinger1]

Uhh.. I am sure they could sue you for more for downloading copyright files ;)

[myke]

VPN? Virtual Private Network :S

[Janczyk]

The fact is it's not you who is breaking the law, you are just downloading files that have been put there by the offenders, however, most government officials fail to recognise this and thus, you are the offender in their eyes.

[alexxxxx]

You can use an encrypted VPN if you are that bothered, or you could get Napster. For a tenner a month you get unlimited downloads and for £15 you get unlimited and you can put them on your MP3.

[Pyroka]

I guess MediaDefender are too lazy to go and sue the people HOSTING the files... -.- Tbh, I don't care. If they send a letter through my door, I'll just send one back saying I'll leave the company which means a 100 quid subscription down the drain.

Heh.

[N-Dubz]

these people have no lives


& funny how its always been illegal + im not scared lmao they said ages ago they'll cut your intrnet off if your caught..


HAS IT HAPPENED?????????

[Hiro]

They've already started this in Hull, Karoo (www.karoo.co.uk) (monopolised company) have started cutting down on people, they haven't got me yet though xD

[Orangeesh]

This is silly, its been happening for years so why make a fuss about it now..

[Hiro]

This is silly, its been happening for years so why make a fuss about it now..

Because production companies are crying about an extra $1,000,000 they aren't getting.

[Andys]

LOL.
I bet like 90% of internet users download music.
Stupid idea really.

[Hiro]

LOL.
I bet like 90% of internet users download music.
Stupid idea really.

Yeah probably. In that case, they might as well make the internet for military use only, as it was originally.. :rolleyes:

[Jordy]

It's old news really, this contains nothing which hasn't been said before:
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=471966
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=454453
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=454385

The government did an enquiry on file sharing and the outcome was that it needed to be tackled. The government pretty much said that if the ISPs don't begin combating it, they'll introduce laws forcing them to combat illegal file sharers. It'll generally covers music and often movies, the gaming industry is becoming increasingly annoyed so that'll be tackled more seriously soon.

Virgin media are currently doing three-strikes and out like the French do, on your third letter they'll allegedly cut you off. At the moment though just one set of letters has been sent out. Other ISPs are beginning to show interest in stopping it and a lot of the smaller ISPs have been tackling the issue for years.

Like I always say, don't attract attention to yourself, if your downloading 30GB a week then it's going to look rather dodgy. If you do it in moderation it's unlikely you'll get caught and if you do, either change ISP or keep risking it as it will take three letters.

[Swinkid]

Is talk talk doing this? i mean, wern't tehy one of the ones saying that this is a breach of privacy.. Nad hello, limewire, its got a encryped connection >:)

[Moh]

They've already started this in Hull, Karoo (http://www.karoo.co.uk) (monopolised company) have started cutting down on people, they haven't got me yet though xD
They got me :'(
I so hate Karoo, shame its the only ISP we can get :(

[Swinkid]

They got me :'(
I so hate Karoo, shame its the only ISP we can get :(

Lmao, use a secure connection, stops them looking at your packets.

Anyways, i would go with itunes, but i cant like use them on other media players, so whats the point?

[N-Dubz]

lmao this wont go to plan

there will always be ways to get music without paying..

[Leetzgirl]

lol at this.

they gonna look at what i gonna do? well; i sue them for that :)

[Moh]

lol at this.

they gonna look at what i gonna do? well; i sue them for that :)
they know when your downloading porn :(

[alexxxxx]

Lmao, use a secure connection, stops them looking at your packets.

Anyways, i would go with itunes, but i cant like use them on other media players, so whats the point?

you can use itunes+ wherever

AND you could just buy cds.

[Leetzgirl]

they know when your downloading porn :(


if i use torrents then yes; i would have a problem; but i dont use torrents

[Pyroka]

Well thepiratebay are going to encrypt their torrents and have-whats aren't they? I remember them saying they wanted to protect the divide between user & server by encrypting packets and the torrents as a whole or something. Bit rusty on the details, but people will find ways of getting around it.

I don't even think many ISP companies will bother investing into the problem much, since they'll say they will but they won't put that much manpower into it. It's the american companies which would have the biggest problem lol.

[Hiro]

They got me :'(
I so hate Karoo, shame its the only ISP we can get :(

Whose do you use now? or did you pay the fine?

[Neil]

To be honest I don't think many ISPs will even bother if they're smart, for example..

Say you're with BT, you download loads of music then get a letter saying they'll cut you off, you then think "oh really?" carry on and get another letter, then all you have to do is find of the many ISPs that don't care and join them

This gives smaller companies a chance, then the bigger companies will start losing customers and then they'll think "not good - forget this we need money too" and it'll be fine, plus I'm fairly certain the TOS when signing up to an ISP doesn't say they are allowed to cut you off for downloading copyright material


I'm not really bothered, if they cut me off I'll go with someone else xD

[Swinkid]

;4939595']you can use itunes+ wherever

AND you could just buy cds.
I'm not saying that i can't use itunes, just i would use it more if i could play the music on diffrent player IE: Winamp.

[AndrewByrne]

I'm sure one song won't matter, But just like if you steal a Vista comp Bill Gates won't mind. :rolleyes:

I'll be getting -rep for this :D

[N!ck]

It's old news really, this contains nothing which hasn't been said before:
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=471966
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=454453
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=454385

The government did an enquiry on file sharing and the outcome was that it needed to be tackled. The government pretty much said that if the ISPs don't begin combating it, they'll introduce laws forcing them to combat illegal file sharers. It'll generally covers music and often movies, the gaming industry is becoming increasingly annoyed so that'll be tackled more seriously soon.

Virgin media are currently doing three-strikes and out like the French do, on your third letter they'll allegedly cut you off. At the moment though just one set of letters has been sent out. Other ISPs are beginning to show interest in stopping it and a lot of the smaller ISPs have been tackling the issue for years.

Like I always say, don't attract attention to yourself, if your downloading 30GB a week then it's going to look rather dodgy. If you do it in moderation it's unlikely you'll get caught and if you do, either change ISP or keep risking it as it will take three letters.

You have a good point, but 30GB per week isn't even that much.

[Phreedom]

Why don't they worry about shutting down the sites that allow us to get this stuff illegally?

[awelsh]

why dont they get off our backs and find out that £15 for a cd is theft. if i paid for the music i downloed i would be in wel over £3,000 worth, also what about the music that you cant buy on cd's such as the couple hunder DJ tracks out there. That isnt copyright theft isit. Why does it have to be virgin who enforce this just my luck im with them. Ahh well ill carry on till i get my 2nd letter if it even comes and then ill change to AOL

[Jordy]

You have a good point, but 30GB per week isn't even that much.Yeah I guess if your on the 20MB connection you could download much more than that in a week. The average home user that obeys the law would find it difficult to wrack up 30GB though, unless they're restoring from an online backup it would be difficult to justify :P


Why don't they worry about shutting down the sites that allow us to get this stuff illegally?Because they can't, they've almost gave up doing that. Take The Pirate Bay (TPB) for example, it's located in Sweden and in Sweden it's not illegal to link to copyrighted content, though in nearly every other country it is. TPB owners have been arrested many times but they can't charge them for anything as all they do is link to content, they don't actually host the content, companies are always claiming their content is on TPB when all they're doing is linking to it. If Microsoft claimed they owned something on TPB, that would be like my saying I owned every hyperlink on the Internet. Till Sweden changes it laws, nothing major can happen.


This gives smaller companies a chance, then the bigger companies will start losing customers and then they'll think "not good - forget this we need money too" and it'll be fine, plus I'm fairly certain the TOS when signing up to an ISP doesn't say they are allowed to cut you off for downloading copyright materialIt's actually the smaller ISPs which are doing more, many of the very small ISPs have cut people off, not to long ago someone from Hull on here got sent a letter demanding they removed copyright content from their computer and they'll be cut off. Most the larger ISPs have been putting up a fight, especially TalkTalk so you'll be safe with them. But Virgin Media has been practically forced by the government to enforce some sort of policy otherwise the government will just submit harsh laws.

The bad news is Virgin media aren't actually looking for the file sharers, the BPI are voluntarily doing it for them. The BPI look at torrents and can see people IP Address's and ISPs and then report them to Virgin Media. The BPI is the British Phonographic Industry, AKA the Music Industry which is backed by all artists. It's getting difficult to stop but if the ISPs look like they're doing things and you don't attract too much attention it'll be okay.

I would buy music if it was priced properly, my problems are that the majority of it is DRM protected which is a pain to convert and it's also illegal and poor quality. It's also not priced fairly, iTunes songs in the UK cost much more than they do in the USA, 49p there compared to 79p over here and it's usually cheaper throughout Europe too.

It's like most people won't use public transport till it's safe, reliable and cheap, it's not that they're not prepared too.

[EVICTION]

One thing for sure, I won't be stopping or even paying for any songs! Its not our fault we download FREE music, its those who offer this service.

[FrozenWhisper]

I download music, but am with TalkTalk so should be alright yer?
Tbh, I wouldn't, if some of the artists I want where actually sold in Zavvi (ONLY music shop near us), and wheren't nearly 15 quid for one album, I remember when 10 pounds for an album was pushing it.
It's stupid, they want the money? Put DOWN the prices, and then people will buy and not download, and they'll GET the money [=

[N!ck]

Yeah I guess if your on the 20MB connection you could download much more than that in a week. The average home user that obeys the law would find it difficult to wrack up 30GB though, unless they're restoring from an online backup it would be difficult to justify :P

I've consistently done over 30GB per week on a 2Mbps connection before and people I know do way more than that not on a 20Mbps connection.

If you're transferring large amounts of data there can be perfectly legitimate reasons.

[cocaine]

whats the status of o2 (bethere) on the illegal downloading front?

[Tom-743]

I doubt ISP's will spend money trying to tackle this issue, if they cut your internet for downloading illegal programs/music ect your just going to swich ISP's and they loose money. It must be about 70% of people who use the internet have done something illegal on it, if ISP's were forced to stop this then there would not be much point in the internet :(